Current Events > NYT columnist bemoans the fact that WASPs no longer run everything

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antfair
12/05/18 9:56:13 AM
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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/05/opinion/george-bush-wasps.html
The New York Times
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CircleOfManias
12/05/18 9:57:05 AM
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Racists gonna racist.
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AlephZero
12/05/18 9:58:01 AM
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i hate wasps their stings hurt
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CyricZ
12/05/18 9:59:42 AM
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Yeah, this has been making the rounds. Another gasping breath in the death of the "rule of whiteness".
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Darkman124
12/05/18 9:59:51 AM
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it's a little more nuanced than that but still.

really, what we're all frustrated about is the behavior that the "WASP-successor" class relies upon to attempt to regain control from the "diverse, meritocratic successors"
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LinkAndEpona
12/05/18 10:00:39 AM
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Things are goona get worse again, aren't they?
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Solar_Crimson
12/05/18 10:02:48 AM
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"I miss the days when White men had all of the power instead of most of it!" - Stan Smith
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Damn_Underscore
12/05/18 10:03:19 AM
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Some more fuel to the fire for the haters of HW.

Why does George HW Bush's death have to be about race at all? It doesn't. But this article can be used by haters to talk about how terrible HW actually was.
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COVxy
12/05/18 10:04:15 AM
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Holy hell, I couldn't make it past the subtitle.
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Antifar
12/05/18 10:08:13 AM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Why does George HW Bush's death have to be about race at all?

Well he was an opponent of the Civil Rights Act who ran one of the most infamously racist campaign ads of the modern era.
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Coastal_elite
12/05/18 10:09:10 AM
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Wow.

He literally uses the death of 41 to promote his racial anxiety bullshit. And then he whines about how "WASP rule is over" when the presidential cabinet and intern and aide pool are the WASPiest they have been in decades.

He also says meritocracy is bad and that SAT scores shouldn't be used in lieu of recommedations from powerful friends.

This guy is an idiot and a racist, and the fact that the NY times publishes this bullshit says a lot about them
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TomNook20
12/05/18 10:14:24 AM
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Romulox28
12/05/18 10:16:22 AM
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every time i see someone complain about how america used to be a meritocracy but is not any longer i die a little bit more inside
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BreezyExcursion
12/05/18 10:17:40 AM
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that was really difficult to read
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Damn_Underscore
12/05/18 10:27:36 AM
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Antifar posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
Why does George HW Bush's death have to be about race at all?

Well he was an opponent of the Civil Rights Act who ran one of the most infamously racist campaign ads of the modern era.


I'm not going to point out the things he did that weren't racist to try and argue with you. Was he racist? Probably, although I wouldn't say at all that his life and time in government were defined by racism.

He did some bad things in life, but he also did a lot of good things. You and people that agree with you act like you're being realistic by thinking of him as a terrible monster, and that people saying good things about him are thinking of him as a saint who did no wrong.

You're not being realistic at all. You're doing the exact same thing you're saying the other side is doing, but with hate instead of love.
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The Great Muta 22
12/05/18 10:32:39 AM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
You're not being realistic at all. You're doing the exact same thing you're saying the other side is doing, but with hate instead of love.


Oh well, HW was a shitty person.

You really need to get over the whole "you liberals are so mean and hateful!!" shit you've been pulling the last few days
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Questionmarktarius
12/05/18 10:39:25 AM
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TomNook20 posted...
How did the term WASP even become a thing? I'm guessing just a bad understanding of history?

It pretty much evolved over the course of several immigration waves:

White: pretty obvious
Anglo-saxon: mostly to exclude German immigrants, probably also Jews and eastern-Europeans as well.
Protestant: mostly to exclude Irish immigrants.
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Coastal_elite
12/05/18 10:48:38 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
TomNook20 posted...
How did the term WASP even become a thing? I'm guessing just a bad understanding of history?

It pretty much evolved over the course of several immigration waves:

White: pretty obvious
Anglo-saxon: mostly to exclude German immigrants, probably also Jews and eastern-Europeans as well.
Protestant: mostly to exclude Irish immigrants.


It came to be because it was meant to exclude other white immigrants, especially Irish and Italian (Catholic).
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AdviceMan
12/05/18 11:57:36 AM
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Interesting article, what are your thoughts @Antifar
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Anteaterking
12/05/18 12:15:59 PM
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ThyCorndog
12/05/18 12:16:39 PM
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lol jesus fucking christ
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rikasa
12/05/18 12:21:51 PM
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This is a good article. I don't think he's specifically arguing FOR it. He seems to be arguing that we're the ones who miss it.

Not only that, but you even end up with an elite that literally uses the same strategy of exclusion that WASPs once used against Jews to preserve its particular definition of diversity from high-achieving Asians with the only difference being that our elite is more determined to deceive itself about how and why its discriminating.

Incredibly chilling way to look at what's going on right now. Very accurate.
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TheMikh
12/05/18 12:27:22 PM
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WASPs may no longer be as visible or culturally dominant as they once were, but they haven't lost control. My research seems to suggest they can still be found manning levers of power in the military industrial complex and the deep state.
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