Current Events > Neo-nazi carrying 'It's OK to be white' sign gets dunked on in public street.

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C_Pain posted...

why do people think its okay to assault people for saying offensive things

yeah i agree. i mean its not like the nazis in ww2 didnt suddenly just sprout up and start gassing jews. there was literally no build up. anyone who says anything otherwise is just fake news. they woke up one day and started the holocaust.
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metralo posted...

centrists like to try to act like hitler wasn't a bad person either, just misunderstood and we need to show respect for the dead.

centrists are just as bad as the alt right.

Considering you mistakenly believe I'm centrist, I wouldn't trust you to identify someone's political stances.

Coastal_elite posted...

A_Good_Boy posted...

FartyMcFartface posted...

Coastal_elite posted...

ASithLord7 posted...

As I always say, Anarchys descent from menlightened centrist to straight up altright white nationalist has been equally fascinating and disturbing to watch

most centrists are simply far right people trying to masquerade as moderates

This is just a lie leftists tell themself when they encounter a centrist and can't use their usual "everyone who disagrees with me is an alt-rightist" resort.

This is quite the odd hot take when you've got a video of a self avowed neo-nazi right in your fucking face. If anything centrists are stupid as shit if they can't identify tiki torch wielding, sieg heiling motherfuckers as nazis.

*claps*

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metralo posted...

DarkBuster22904 posted...

it DOES make the the left look bad.

conservatives -*literally white supremicists and nazis*

left - "hey fuck you guys"

centrists - "wow FUCK the left!"

Centrists exposed once again

I remember when people used to make fun or deride Neville Chamberlain for his appeasement of the Nazi regime back when. Now we're all supposed to be a bunch of Nevilles apparently.

Cause we all know what good came from that.
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DarkBuster22904 posted...

metralo posted...

DarkBuster22904 posted...

it DOES make the the left look bad.

conservatives -*literally white supremicists and nazis*

left - "hey fuck you guys"

centrists - "wow FUCK the left!"

I have.never once accused anybody of being intelligent.

People are dumb. And the fact is, they WILL respond exactly like you described. All I'm saying is we should stop pretending people who legit think like that dont matter. Because it bites you in the ass.

I'm interested in winning, and to win, you need the center, stupid or not.

Nice try. Right on the alt right play book:

> move the Overton window as far right as possible
> demand appealing to the center because we need it to win
> secretly giggle thinking that the new center is actually what used to be the far right before the Overton window got moved even more.

No, Nazis are good , let these guys plant burning crosses in your backyard, its freedom of speech and wow, why would you say you dont want Nazis in your office? Thats bad! Now let the nice Nazi say he doesnt want Jews in his country are not legitimate center or middle of the road views to take, they are literally far right, hate group ideas, which people are trying to pass as center because the new far-right says kill them all instead

Southernfatman posted...

I remember when people used to make fun or deride Neville Chamberlain for his appeasement of the Nazi regime back when. Now we're all supposed to be a bunch of Nevilles apparently.

Cause we all know what good came from that.

+1
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Conflict posted...

DarkBuster22904 posted...

But the more sensible part of me acknowledges that this is objectively a bad move. Dumping coffee on him does nothing. Fuck, it does less than nothing, because the fact is, it DOES make the the left look bad. We can scream "he deserves it" till we're hoarse, but the fact is, responses like this have spiked in frequency in the last 5 years and... it's done nothing to "teach the alt right s lesson." The reality is, responses like this ARE making things worse, ARE making shitbags like this sympathetic figures, and ARE alienating the center, at a time when the center NEEDS to be won. You CANT give people like this a shred of ammo, because every bit you give will sure as shit be used against you. And it will work, whatever delusions of "these shitbags don't matter" you chant to yourself

You're gonna need to cite this with evidence otherwise it's just horseshit like "Trump won because of political correctness". A completely baseless conclusion. Why would a centrist vote for a candidate that doesn't match up with their own interests because people out here are punching Nazis or people saying the n-word

centrists also claimed that debate was the best way to defeat an opponent and that de-platforming would make them more dangerous, when the opposite is demonstrably true
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metralo posted...

DarkBuster22904 posted...

it DOES make the the left look bad.

conservatives -*literally white supremicists and nazis*

left - "hey fuck you guys"

centrists - "wow FUCK the left!"

That's fake news. As the Imperial Overlord of the Intergalactic Federation of Alt-Centrists, I can officially declare that my organization supports the left in this particular instance.
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The Great Muta 22 posted...

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

"Trust us, it's sooo okay to be white that we'll attack you for suggesting that it's okay."

"Attack you" by dumping coffee on you.

Boy you guys have such a low bar for what's considered an attack. If you want to be a jackass troll IRL you better be prepared for people to treat you like shit

Coffee can burn. Also, any physical contact can be considered an 'attack' in the court systems.
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A_Good_Boy posted...

FartyMcFartface posted...

Coastal_elite posted...

ASithLord7 posted...

As I always say, Anarchy?s descent from ?m?enlightened centrist? to straight up altright white nationalist has been equally fascinating and disturbing to watch

most centrists are simply far right people trying to masquerade as moderates

This is just a lie leftists tell themself when they encounter a centrist and can't use their usual "everyone who disagrees with me is an alt-rightist" resort.

This is quite the odd hot take when you've got a video of a self avowed neo-nazi right in your fucking face. If anything centrists are stupid as shit if they can't identify tiki torch wielding, sieg heiling motherfuckers as nazis.

That alt has outed himself as a usual suspect fwiw
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It is disturbing how common it is now for people to support violence against those who they strongly disagree with.
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metralo posted...

DarkBuster22904 posted...

it DOES make the the left look bad.

conservatives -*literally white supremicists and nazis*

left - "hey fuck you guys"

centrists - "wow FUCK the left!"

Pride in who someone is makes them a supremacist and nazi? I am not saying this guy ISNT either, but based on the evidence presented in the video, he is neither.
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A_Good_Boy posted...

FartyMcFartface posted...

Coastal_elite posted...

ASithLord7 posted...

As I always say, Anarchys descent from menlightened centrist to straight up altright white nationalist has been equally fascinating and disturbing to watch

most centrists are simply far right people trying to masquerade as moderates

This is just a lie leftists tell themself when they encounter a centrist and can't use their usual "everyone who disagrees with me is an alt-rightist" resort.

This is quite the odd hot take when you've got a video of a self avowed neo-nazi right in your fucking face. If anything centrists are stupid as shit if they can't identify tiki torch wielding, sieg heiling motherfuckers as nazis.

What this person fails to understand is that the First Amendment rights of a tiki torch wielding, sieg heiling nazi are just as valid as Lena Dunham's First Amendment rights.

And I will now leave you with the words of the great Christopher Hitchens, whose defense of free speech I will never be able to match in eloquence:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olefVguutfo" data-time="
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Sativa_Rose posted...

It is disturbing how common it is now for people to support violence against those who they strongly disagree with.

Agreed.

I may not agree with someone, but I will sort out other methods in order to 'win' against them. Physical violence only has one real place - when physical violence is imminent to begin with.
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MaverickXeo posted...

Sativa_Rose posted...

It is disturbing how common it is now for people to support violence against those who they strongly disagree with.

Agreed.

I may not agree with someone, but I will sort out other methods in order to 'win' against them. Physical violence only has one real place - when physical violence is imminent to begin with.

and when nazis are involved, physical violence is imminent
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averagejoel posted...

MaverickXeo posted...

Sativa_Rose posted...

It is disturbing how common it is now for people to support violence against those who they strongly disagree with.

Agreed.

I may not agree with someone, but I will sort out other methods in order to 'win' against them. Physical violence only has one real place - when physical violence is imminent to begin with.

and when nazis are involved, physical violence is imminent

It isn't, though, especially when the definition of "nazi" is broadened to be anyone who is some kind of racist or white nationalist.
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Sativa_Rose posted...

averagejoel posted...

MaverickXeo posted...

Sativa_Rose posted...

It is disturbing how common it is now for people to support violence against those who they strongly disagree with.

Agreed.

I may not agree with someone, but I will sort out other methods in order to 'win' against them. Physical violence only has one real place - when physical violence is imminent to begin with.

and when nazis are involved, physical violence is imminent

It isn't, though, especially when the definition of "nazi" is broadened to be anyone who is some kind of racist or white nationalist.

it is though

and the definition of "nazi" isn't being broadened, though I do often use "nazi" and "fascist" interchangeably. would you be happy if I said "fascist" instead, since it's a more general term?
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averagejoel posted...

Sativa_Rose posted...

averagejoel posted...

MaverickXeo posted...

Sativa_Rose posted...

It is disturbing how common it is now for people to support violence against those who they strongly disagree with.

Agreed.

I may not agree with someone, but I will sort out other methods in order to 'win' against them. Physical violence only has one real place - when physical violence is imminent to begin with.

and when nazis are involved, physical violence is imminent

It isn't, though, especially when the definition of "nazi" is broadened to be anyone who is some kind of racist or white nationalist.

it is though

and the definition of "nazi" isn't being broadened, though I do often use "nazi" and "fascist" interchangeably. would you be happy if I said "fascist" instead, since it's a more general term?

I don't care, but in either case, the First Amendment rights of a fascist or nazi are just as valid as anyone else's.

That includes not just the right to freely express themselves but also the right to free assembly. It's their constitutional right. You can't just declare that an ideology is likely to lead to violence and therefore doesn't get these protections. Imagine how others might try to do that with Islam, for example. What if there is some imam preaching about how the US is the greatest evil in the world and must be destroyed? That's free speech. That is protected under the First Amendment.
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Sativa_Rose posted...

I don't care, but in either case, the First Amendment rights of a fascist or nazi are just as valid as anyone else's.

That includes not just the right to freely express themselves but also the right to free assembly. It's their constitutional right. You can't just declare that an ideology is likely to lead to violence and therefore doesn't get these protections.

the government is not imprisoning them for speaking. therefore, their first amendment rights are not being infringed.

Imagine how others might try to do that with Islam, for example. What if there is some imam preaching about how the US is the greatest evil in the world and must be destroyed? That's free speech. That is protected under the First Amendment.

cool. Islam is also not inherently violent like fascism is, so that's a completely different case.
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averagejoel posted...

the government is not imprisoning them for speaking. therefore, their first amendment rights are not being infringed.

Fair enough, but the attackers do not get any free pass when it comes to our criminal justice system. The fact that they attacked people who were fascists or nazis is 100% irrelevant, actually.

averagejoel posted...

cool. Islam is also not inherently violent like fascism is, so that's a completely different case.

Who gets to decide? Who gets to decide FOR YOU which ideologies are so violent that they must be censored from your consumption and which ones are not so violent? Watch the video I linked above, that's one of the points he makes. Who gets to decide what ideology is fit for consumption, and how do we trust that person?
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averagejoel posted...

MaverickXeo posted...

Sativa_Rose posted...

It is disturbing how common it is now for people to support violence against those who they strongly disagree with.

Agreed.

I may not agree with someone, but I will sort out other methods in order to 'win' against them. Physical violence only has one real place - when physical violence is imminent to begin with.

and when nazis are involved, physical violence is imminent

Uh, no.

imminent
/imnnt/Submit
adjective
1.
about to happen.

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Sativa_Rose posted...

Fair enough, but the attackers do not get any free pass when it comes to our criminal justice system. The fact that they attacked people who were fascists or nazis is 100% irrelevant, actually.

ok. I wasn't arguing that it was legal to physically attack fascists, but that it was moral to do so.

Who gets to decide? Who gets to decide FOR YOU which ideologies are so violent that they must be censored from your consumption and which ones are not so violent? Watch the video I linked above, that's one of the points he makes. Who gets to decide what ideology is fit for consumption, and how do we trust that person?

these ideologies are not being censored from consumption.

but also I am not going to watch a christopher hitchens video
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averagejoel posted...

ok. I wasn't arguing that it was legal to physically attack fascists, but that it was moral to do so.

Oh okay, well good luck with that then.
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Sativa_Rose posted...

averagejoel posted...

ok. I wasn't arguing that it was legal to physically attack fascists, but that it was moral to do so.

Oh okay, well good luck with that then.

remember that "X is moral" does not mean "X is a good idea"
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Only a white supremacist would feel white people are threatened. Words don't exist in a vacuum. This movement was created by those racist types.

Besides, I thought only liberal snowflakes thought oppression still existed in America.
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Dragonblade01 posted...

Of course it's okay to be white.

But holding a sign and trying to make a movement out of it tells me you have a silly persecution complex.

Is it a silly persecution complex when that signs provokes this kind of response?

No
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Sativa_Rose posted...

A_Good_Boy posted...

FartyMcFartface posted...

Coastal_elite posted...

ASithLord7 posted...

As I always say, Anarchys descent from menlightened centrist to straight up altright white nationalist has been equally fascinating and disturbing to watch

most centrists are simply far right people trying to masquerade as moderates

This is just a lie leftists tell themself when they encounter a centrist and can't use their usual "everyone who disagrees with me is an alt-rightist" resort.

This is quite the odd hot take when you've got a video of a self avowed neo-nazi right in your fucking face. If anything centrists are stupid as shit if they can't identify tiki torch wielding, sieg heiling motherfuckers as nazis.

What this person fails to understand is that the First Amendment rights of a tiki torch wielding, sieg heiling nazi are just as valid as Lena Dunham's First Amendment rights.

And I will now leave you with the words of the great Christopher Hitchens, whose defense of free speech I will never be able to match in eloquence:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olefVguutfo" data-time="

I'm sure Christopher Hitchens would shed a tear seeing this happen to a nazi.
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Bloodychess posted...

Dragonblade01 posted...

Of course it's okay to be white.

But holding a sign and trying to make a movement out of it tells me you have a silly persecution complex.

Is it a silly persecution complex when that signs provokes this kind of response?

No

Yes. Mocking an idiot doesn't make an idiot correct.
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hockeybub89 posted...

Bloodychess posted...

Dragonblade01 posted...

Of course it's okay to be white.

But holding a sign and trying to make a movement out of it tells me you have a silly persecution complex.

Is it a silly persecution complex when that signs provokes this kind of response?

No

Yes. Mocking an idiot doesn't make an idiot correct.

You're mixing facts with feelings again
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MaverickXeo posted...

Sativa_Rose posted...

It is disturbing how common it is now for people to support violence against those who they strongly disagree with.

Agreed.

I may not agree with someone, but I will sort out other methods in order to 'win' against them. Physical violence only has one real place - when physical violence is imminent to begin with.

there's nothing to "win" when dealing with a Nazi supporter. I dont even know what you think you can win from that lol.
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ChainedRedone posted...

Sativa_Rose posted...

A_Good_Boy posted...

FartyMcFartface posted...

Coastal_elite posted...

ASithLord7 posted...

As I always say, Anarchys descent from menlightened centrist to straight up altright white nationalist has been equally fascinating and disturbing to watch

most centrists are simply far right people trying to masquerade as moderates

This is just a lie leftists tell themself when they encounter a centrist and can't use their usual "everyone who disagrees with me is an alt-rightist" resort.

This is quite the odd hot take when you've got a video of a self avowed neo-nazi right in your fucking face. If anything centrists are stupid as shit if they can't identify tiki torch wielding, sieg heiling motherfuckers as nazis.

What this person fails to understand is that the First Amendment rights of a tiki torch wielding, sieg heiling nazi are just as valid as Lena Dunham's First Amendment rights.

And I will now leave you with the words of the great Christopher Hitchens, whose defense of free speech I will never be able to match in eloquence:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olefVguutfo" data-time="

I'm sure Christopher Hitchens would shed a tear seeing this happen to a nazi.

Somebody didn't watch the video.
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RickyTheBAWSE posted...

MaverickXeo posted...

Sativa_Rose posted...

It is disturbing how common it is now for people to support violence against those who they strongly disagree with.

Agreed.

I may not agree with someone, but I will sort out other methods in order to 'win' against them. Physical violence only has one real place - when physical violence is imminent to begin with.

there's nothing to "win" when dealing with a Nazi supporter. I dont even know what you think you can win from that lol.

If there is nothing to win, then there is no point in engaging in the first place.
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MaverickXeo posted...

RickyTheBAWSE posted...

MaverickXeo posted...

Sativa_Rose posted...

It is disturbing how common it is now for people to support violence against those who they strongly disagree with.

Agreed.

I may not agree with someone, but I will sort out other methods in order to 'win' against them. Physical violence only has one real place - when physical violence is imminent to begin with.

there's nothing to "win" when dealing with a Nazi supporter. I dont even know what you think you can win from that lol.

If there is nothing to win, then there is no point in engaging in the first place.

So lets let them run rampant? Lmao

Bloodychess posted...

Dragonblade01 posted...

Of course it's okay to be white.

But holding a sign and trying to make a movement out of it tells me you have a silly persecution complex.

Is it a silly persecution complex when that signs provokes this kind of response?

No

Yes

MaverickXeo posted...

RickyTheBAWSE posted...

MaverickXeo posted...

Sativa_Rose posted...

It is disturbing how common it is now for people to support violence against those who they strongly disagree with.

Agreed.

I may not agree with someone, but I will sort out other methods in order to 'win' against them. Physical violence only has one real place - when physical violence is imminent to begin with.

there's nothing to "win" when dealing with a Nazi supporter. I dont even know what you think you can win from that lol.

If there is nothing to win, then there is no point in engaging in the first place.

the point was "fuck that Nazi shit." that point was conveyed pretty well, even if you don't agree with it. it's not about whether you agree though.

pretty sad that people don't have enough decency to not engage in discussions when they don't even know the point. this is why voters like you give all voters a bad name. you want to include yourself without being educated.
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The vast majority of those who don't support physically attacking people aren't saying "do literally nothing about nazis," so I don't get why that's the common reaction.

man fuck nazis, they incite violence just by existing.
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Trickfinger posted...

man fuck nazis, they incite violence just by existing.

Punching nazis is like an a priori case of self defense. Gotta get them before they get you first.
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A_Good_Boy posted...

Trickfinger posted...

man fuck nazis, they incite violence just by existing.

Punching nazis is like an a priori case of self defense. Gotta get them before they get you first.

exactly
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Trickfinger posted...

A_Good_Boy posted...

Trickfinger posted...

man fuck nazis, they incite violence just by existing.

Punching nazis is like an a priori case of self defense. Gotta get them before they get you first.

exactly

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LightningAce11 posted...

Lol

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Coastal_elite posted...

ASithLord7 posted...

As I always say, Anarchys descent from menlightened centrist to straight up altright white nationalist has been equally fascinating and disturbing to watch

most centrists are simply far right people trying to masquerade as moderates

this is a strong statement
what do you have that backs that statement
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lesidesi posted...

Coastal_elite posted...

ASithLord7 posted...

As I always say, Anarchys descent from menlightened centrist to straight up altright white nationalist has been equally fascinating and disturbing to watch

most centrists are simply far right people trying to masquerade as moderates

this is a strong statement
what do you have that backs that statement

This topic
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lmao, seriously
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Bloodychess posted...

hockeybub89 posted...

Bloodychess posted...

Dragonblade01 posted...

Of course it's okay to be white.

But holding a sign and trying to make a movement out of it tells me you have a silly persecution complex.

Is it a silly persecution complex when that signs provokes this kind of response?

No

Yes. Mocking an idiot doesn't make an idiot correct.

You're mixing facts with feelings again

What facts show that white people are persecuted?
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A_Good_Boy posted...

lesidesi posted...

Coastal_elite posted...

ASithLord7 posted...

As I always say, Anarchys descent from menlightened centrist to straight up altright white nationalist has been equally fascinating and disturbing to watch

most centrists are simply far right people trying to masquerade as moderates

this is a strong statement
what do you have that backs that statement

This topic

Exactly

hockeybub89 posted...

Bloodychess posted...

hockeybub89 posted...

Bloodychess posted...

Dragonblade01 posted...

Of course it's okay to be white.

But holding a sign and trying to make a movement out of it tells me you have a silly persecution complex.

Is it a silly persecution complex when that signs provokes this kind of response?

No

Yes. Mocking an idiot doesn't make an idiot correct.

You're mixing facts with feelings again

What facts show that white people are persecuted?

You can't say the n-word anymore without risk to your employment or your face, and that's terrible.
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