Current Events > The thing that will actually stop Donald Trump from being reelected

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If the economy continues to falter in 2019, even if it gets better again in 2020 the Democratic candidate will win big.

If the economy rebounds in 2019 and stays good/gets even better in 2020 he will probably win in a close election.
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He's going to resign
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Looking at the margins of the midterms, if Dems field a halfway reasonable candidate, they've got a good shot. Americans rejected Trump in the midterms. The margins of places he needs to go red went blue hard.
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He'll make a show of running again, but he'll blame the left for it being untenable.
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trump is hated at historic levels, he is a lame duck at this point
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Trump is winning big for America and will win reelection in 2020.
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DifferentialEquation posted...

Trump is winning big for America and will win reelection in 2020.

Time to Old Yeller your gimmick.
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andel posted...

trump is hated at historic levels, he is a lame duck at this point

I bet you were saying he wouldn't be elected the first time.

Vocal minorities and TV gets people feeling certain that they're right but it's the quiet people who aren't open about their political opinions that do more voting.

SaithSayer posted...

andel posted...

trump is hated at historic levels, he is a lame duck at this point

I bet you were saying he wouldn't be elected the first time.

Vocal minorities and TV gets people feeling certain that they're right but it's the quiet people who aren't open about their political opinions that do more voting.

Look at the midterms. The margins don't lie. America is rejecting Trump.
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We'll see. The media paints a certain picture. Going by TV, I was beginning to think most people in America aren't religious anymore. Sadly the numbers don't reflect that.

SaithSayer posted...

We'll see. The media paints a certain picture. Going by TV, I was beginning to think most people in America aren't religious anymore. Sadly the numbers don't reflect that.

They do. The fastest growing religion nowadays is "none"

There's also some countries in Europe now where 0% of children believe in God.
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Ambience posted...

SaithSayer posted...

andel posted...

trump is hated at historic levels, he is a lame duck at this point

I bet you were saying he wouldn't be elected the first time.

Vocal minorities and TV gets people feeling certain that they're right but it's the quiet people who aren't open about their political opinions that do more voting.

Look at the midterms. The margins don't lie. America is rejecting Trump.

You know silly things like election results don't actually matter to these people, they put "feelz above realz" and because they were right for one election over 2 years ago means they'll always be right.

I hope they keep their confidence up
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SaithSayer posted...

We'll see. The media paints a certain picture. Going by TV, I was beginning to think most people in America aren't religious anymore. Sadly the numbers don't reflect that.

Margins aren't the media, they're solid fact. People predicting Trump would lose 16 was based on polls. People came out in droves for the midterms specifically to vote against Trump.
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SaithSayer posted...

We'll see. The media paints a certain picture. Going by TV, I was beginning to think most people in America aren't religious anymore. Sadly the numbers don't reflect that.

They literally are less religious than before. You can find hundreds of stories around the country from church goers that talk about how much more empty the pews are now than ever before. You have dozens of churches closing around the country due to a lack of attendance and an inability to maintain the upkeep of the place. Legitimate polling places like Pew Research cite that religion, especially those millennial aged and under, is dying out across the denominations.

What more do you need?
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Ambience posted...

SaithSayer posted...

andel posted...

trump is hated at historic levels, he is a lame duck at this point

I bet you were saying he wouldn't be elected the first time.

Vocal minorities and TV gets people feeling certain that they're right but it's the quiet people who aren't open about their political opinions that do more voting.

Look at the midterms. The margins don't lie. America is rejecting Trump.

Not just this but how close the electoral vote was, on top, and how much of a margin he lost the popular vote by. He won the first time by the skin of his teeth, and that was before the entire Russian investigation and before this ridiculous trade war
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Ambience posted...

Looking at the margins of the midterms, if Dems field a halfway reasonable candidate, they've got a good shot. Americans rejected Trump in the midterms. The margins of places he needs to go red went blue hard.

I mean, he barely squeaked by Hillary of all people.... but he'll also have the incumbent bump this time around.
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The Great Muta 22 posted...

SaithSayer posted...

We'll see. The media paints a certain picture. Going by TV, I was beginning to think most people in America aren't religious anymore. Sadly the numbers don't reflect that.

They literally are less religious than before. You can find hundreds of stories around the country from church goers that talk about how much more empty the pews are now than ever before. You have dozens of churches closing around the country due to a lack of attendance and an inability to maintain the upkeep of the place. Legitimate polling places like Pew Research cite that religion, especially those millennial aged and under, is dying out across the denominations.

What more do you need?

Obviously it's happening and that's great, but TV had it seeming like being Christian was rare. They also liked to be incognito racist by having black people portray the few believers. Turk and Laverne on Scrubs for instance.

SaithSayer posted...

The Great Muta 22 posted...

SaithSayer posted...

We'll see. The media paints a certain picture. Going by TV, I was beginning to think most people in America aren't religious anymore. Sadly the numbers don't reflect that.

They literally are less religious than before. You can find hundreds of stories around the country from church goers that talk about how much more empty the pews are now than ever before. You have dozens of churches closing around the country due to a lack of attendance and an inability to maintain the upkeep of the place. Legitimate polling places like Pew Research cite that religion, especially those millennial aged and under, is dying out across the denominations.

What more do you need?

Obviously it's happening and that's great, but TV had it seeming like being Christian was rare. They also liked to be incognito racist by having black people portray the few believers. Turk and Laverne on Scrubs for instance.

Carla, her whole family, Cox's sister, JD had religious moments...
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Ambience posted...

ooking at the margins of the midterms, if Dems field a halfway reasonable candidate, they've got a good shot.

They'll nominate Hillary.

Trump's inability to "save the rust belt" as he proclaimed he would do repeatedly during the campaign, which everyone knew would be damn near impossible with their current industries, paired with a politician who actually campaigns in and turns out the votes in those regions, will be enough to cost him the election. He won by a razor thin margin in the trio of PA/MI/WI, and it was him flipping a few Dems who felt he might actually do something to save them compared to Clinton, who was always tied to her husband and NAFTA, which DID directly hurt that region. It was also the Democrats not turning out in those states, being that vote totals between the both of them didn't even match Obama/Romney combined totals.

I mean there's a laundry list of factors, like in any election, to why Trump won in 2016. But moving ahead in 2020 they need to keep that region, as there's really nowhere else he could look to gain votes elsewhere. And being how razor thin the margins were, it's entirely a toss up if he'll be able to do so. It's easier to bitch about how you'll fix everything compared to the other side, especially when that person is promising more of the same that you've seen for the last 20 years. It's another thing when you're actually in power and STILL not doing anything to help those people.
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iClockwork posted...

Ambience posted...

ooking at the margins of the midterms, if Dems field a halfway reasonable candidate, they've got a good shot.

They'll nominate Hillary.

You can keep hoping and praying for this but you know it'll never happen and she's not running. You're going to be so disappointed
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DrizztLink posted...

SaithSayer posted...

The Great Muta 22 posted...

SaithSayer posted...

We'll see. The media paints a certain picture. Going by TV, I was beginning to think most people in America aren't religious anymore. Sadly the numbers don't reflect that.

They literally are less religious than before. You can find hundreds of stories around the country from church goers that talk about how much more empty the pews are now than ever before. You have dozens of churches closing around the country due to a lack of attendance and an inability to maintain the upkeep of the place. Legitimate polling places like Pew Research cite that religion, especially those millennial aged and under, is dying out across the denominations.

What more do you need?

Obviously it's happening and that's great, but TV had it seeming like being Christian was rare. They also liked to be incognito racist by having black people portray the few believers. Turk and Laverne on Scrubs for instance.

Carla, her whole family, Cox's sister, JD had religious moments...

Dr. Cox's sister is around for what...two episodes?

Carla mocked religion to fuck with Turk in the episode with the pregnant teen. JD mocked Turk's beliefs with a Monopoly piece. lol

A Democratic candidate that cares about the middle class, has a plan for the future, and doesn't push their entire agenda on race, religion, or sex.

And then, this said candidate would actually rally and not ignore certain parts of the country.
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If he betrays the interests of the liberal democratic class then he will be discarded like other pawns.

Caution999 posted...

A Democratic candidate that cares about the middle class, has a plan for the future, and doesn't push their entire agenda on race, religion, or sex.

And then, this said candidate would actually rally and not ignore certain parts of the country.

Like you and your club would ever vote for a Democrat.
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Caution999 posted...

doesn't push their entire agenda on race, religion, or sex.

Come on Caution, you know this is at least 75% of the Trump agenda and messaging since he's taken office.
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Tmaster148 posted...

Caution999 posted...

A Democratic candidate that cares about the middle class, has a plan for the future, and doesn't push their entire agenda on race, religion, or sex.

And then, this said candidate would actually rally and not ignore certain parts of the country.

Like you and your club would ever vote for a Democrat.

You got me all wrong, dude. I'd be happy to have a 1 on 1 discussion with you. Yes, I'm not perfect (obviously right? LOL), but I'm not the evil person you think I am.

Plus I've voted for John Kerry, Obama, and Obama.
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Tmaster148 posted...

Caution999 posted...

A Democratic candidate that cares about the middle class, has a plan for the future, and doesn't push their entire agenda on race, religion, or sex.

And then, this said candidate would actually rally and not ignore certain parts of the country.

Like you and your club would ever vote for a Democrat.

I would vote for a Democrat if that Democrat was Trump.
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Im not sure the economy will mean anything against Trump unless its a drastic downfall. His supporters and Republicans will still vote for him. The midterms showed that as backwards, disgusting Republicans were elected. Republicans would support anyone who isnt a Dem no matter how vile they are.

Evol posted...

Im not sure the economy will mean anything against Trump unless its a drastic downfall. His supporters and Republicans will still vote for him. The midterms showed that as backwards, disgusting Republicans were elected. Republicans would support anyone who isnt a Dem no matter how vile they are.

His supporters already have made statements that Trump wasn't the reason for their job loss with GM.
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SaithSayer posted...

We'll see. The media paints a certain picture. Going by TV, I was beginning to think most people in America aren't religious anymore. Sadly the numbers don't reflect that.

People who actually attempt to follow their religion will reject Trump anyway so it's all good. I mean, I would regardless I assume, but my Christian beliefs are in direct contradiction to the man and many of his policies.
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Your Christian beliefs also tell you not to judge others.

I hate the "you're a [religion] so you should never vote for that person!!" argument because modern society requires separation of Church and State.
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Damn_Underscore posted...

modern society requires separation of Church and State.

You should probably tell the GOP that then...
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What are the chances he could lose the republican primary?
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I know I keep hearing things like

"We now have the highest number of (insert positive thing) in __ years!" and "We now have the lowest number of (insert negative thing) in __ years!"

That seems good regardless of what insensitive thing he says.

DoubleDare posted...

What are the chances he could lose the republican primary?

0.
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SaithSayer posted...

I know I keep hearing things like

"We now have the highest number of (insert positive thing) in __ years!" and "We now have the lowest number of (insert negative thing) in __ years!"

That seems good regardless of what insensitive thing he says.

Trump is doing great things for the country. Hating on Trump at this point is basically like hating on a guy who rushed into a burning building and saved everyone's lives because his t-shirt had some offensive joke written on it.
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DifferentialEquation posted...

SaithSayer posted...

I know I keep hearing things like

"We now have the highest number of (insert positive thing) in __ years!" and "We now have the lowest number of (insert negative thing) in __ years!"

That seems good regardless of what insensitive thing he says.

Trump is doing great things for the country. Hating on Trump at this point is basically like hating on a guy who rushed into a burning building and saved everyone's lives because his t-shirt had some offensive joke written on it.

So what's the gimmick gonna be after Trump gets the boot for incompetence?

You gotta be prepared.
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DrizztLink posted...

DifferentialEquation posted...

SaithSayer posted...

I know I keep hearing things like

"We now have the highest number of (insert positive thing) in __ years!" and "We now have the lowest number of (insert negative thing) in __ years!"

That seems good regardless of what insensitive thing he says.

Trump is doing great things for the country. Hating on Trump at this point is basically like hating on a guy who rushed into a burning building and saved everyone's lives because his t-shirt had some offensive joke written on it.

So what's the gimmick gonna be after Trump gets the boot for incompetence?

You gotta be prepared.

I have no gimmick. I have the truth and I'll never stop speaking it.
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DrizztLink posted...

DifferentialEquation posted...

SaithSayer posted...

I know I keep hearing things like

"We now have the highest number of (insert positive thing) in __ years!" and "We now have the lowest number of (insert negative thing) in __ years!"

That seems good regardless of what insensitive thing he says.

Trump is doing great things for the country. Hating on Trump at this point is basically like hating on a guy who rushed into a burning building and saved everyone's lives because his t-shirt had some offensive joke written on it.

So what's the gimmick gonna be after Trump gets the boot for incompetence?

You gotta be prepared.

andel posted...

trump is hated at historic levels, he is a lame duck at this point

Yeah. But he has a stronghold on a strategic and loud minority conveniently distributed among electoral college states.

Yeah maybe 2000000 Californians hate him, but hey, 4000 starved farmers in Iowa would die for him, so hes won Iowa! And then 5000 former coal miners in west va would die for him too, so please give him those electoral points too! Wash, rinse and repeat al over flyover country.

SaithSayer posted...

I heard they're taking it out of the remake. Nazi imagery n whatnot. lol
In the top 3 Disney songs too.
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SaithSayer posted...

DrizztLink posted...

DifferentialEquation posted...

SaithSayer posted...

I know I keep hearing things like

"We now have the highest number of (insert positive thing) in __ years!" and "We now have the lowest number of (insert negative thing) in __ years!"

That seems good regardless of what insensitive thing he says.

Trump is doing great things for the country. Hating on Trump at this point is basically like hating on a guy who rushed into a burning building and saved everyone's lives because his t-shirt had some offensive joke written on it.

So what's the gimmick gonna be after Trump gets the boot for incompetence?

You gotta be prepared.

Takes over from an actually talented ruler and drives his domain into the ground, until getting torn apart by incompetent lackeys.

Apt.
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Obama was definitely talented... at public speaking.

K
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Discussing his policies instead of him being a mean man who uses bad words and a main event level talent on the democrats side.
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SaithSayer posted...

Obama was definitely talented... at public speaking.

He was good at reading off of a teleprompter. There were plenty of times where his teleprompter went out and he made an ass of himself. Trump, however, is able to improv and think on his feet; he can give a great speech and doesn't need one spoonfed to him.
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DrizztLink posted...

DifferentialEquation posted...

SaithSayer posted...

I know I keep hearing things like

"We now have the highest number of (insert positive thing) in __ years!" and "We now have the lowest number of (insert negative thing) in __ years!"

That seems good regardless of what insensitive thing he says.

Trump is doing great things for the country. Hating on Trump at this point is basically like hating on a guy who rushed into a burning building and saved everyone's lives because his t-shirt had some offensive joke written on it.

So what's the gimmick gonna be after Trump gets the boot for incompetence?

You gotta be prepared.

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