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CornBarn 12/09/18 1:57:41 PM #1:	https://qz.com/1486377/global-shipper-maersk-says-it-will-eliminate-fossil-fuels-by-2050/ The worlds largest maritime shipping company is slowly ditching fossil fuels, and in doing so has thrown down a challenge for the rest of the industry to follow suit. Denmark-based AP Moller Maersk this week said it will cut its carbon emissions completely by 2050. Thats a significant goal for the company, which is part of an industry responsible for about 3% of the worlds emissions, according to the United Nations. If shipping itself were a country, data show it would be the worlds sixth-biggest greenhouse gas emitter. Maersk accounts for about 20% of the worlds sea-based freighting. The biggest part of the process will be to switch to carbon-neutral ships by 2030, a move that depends on the industrys ability to find cleaner ways to power their massive container ships. The only possible way to achieve the so-much-needed decarbonization in our industry is by fully transforming to new carbon neutral fuels and supply chains, says Sren Toft, a top executive at Maersk. The company has already aggressively sliced into its carbon footprint. Since 2007, Maersk has reduced overall carbon emissions by 46%, according to the company and media reports. Thats been made possible by about $1 billion in investment into cleaner technology, including the hiring of more than 50 engineers to find those solutions. The lofty goal set by Maersk is in line with the United Nations International Maritime Organizations strategy, which called on 173 member countries to cut emissions by half from 2008 levels by 2050. Thebunker fuel typically used for international shipping causes problems beyond greenhouse-gas emissions. That type of fuel can have sulfur content thats 3,500 times higher that gas used in diesel cars. Sulfur is a smog-producer and precursor to ozone, which has been linked to several health problems, including asthma, heart disease, and pregnancy complications. God bless. <cite>CornBarn posted [p:913827483] in Largest sh... [t:77285324]...</cite> <quote>https://qz.com/1486377/global-shipper-maersk-says-it-will-eliminate-fossil-fuels-by-2050/ The worlds largest maritime shipping company is slowly ditching fossil fuels, and in doing so has thrown down a challenge for the rest of the industry to follow suit. Denmark-based AP Moller Maersk this week said it will cut its carbon emissions completely by 2050. Thats a significant goal for the company, which is part of an industry responsible for about 3% of the worlds emissions, according to the United Nations. If shipping itself were a country, data show it would be the worlds sixth-biggest greenhouse gas emitter. Maersk accounts for about 20% of the worlds sea-based freighting. The biggest part of the process will be to switch to carbon-neutral ships by 2030, a move that depends on the industrys ability to find cleaner ways to power their massive container ships. The only possible way to achieve the so-much-needed decarbonization in our industry is by fully transforming to new carbon neutral fuels and supply chains, says Sren Toft, a top executive at Maersk. The company has already aggressively sliced into its carbon footprint. Since 2007, Maersk has reduced overall carbon emissions by 46%, according to the company and media reports. Thats been made possible by about $1 billion in investment into cleaner technology, including the hiring of more than 50 engineers to find those solutions. The lofty goal set by Maersk is in line with the United Nations International Maritime Organizations strategy, which called on 173 member countries to cut emissions by half from 2008 levels by 2050. Thebunker fuel typically used for international shipping causes problems beyond greenhouse-gas emissions. That type of fuel can have sulfur content thats 3,500 times higher that gas used in diesel cars. Sulfur is a smog-producer and precursor to ozone, which has been linked to several health problems, including asthma, heart disease, and pregnancy complications. God bless.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CornBarn 12/09/18 2:04:56 PM #2:	Bump <cite>CornBarn posted [p:913827875] in Largest sh... [t:77285324]...</cite> <quote>Bump</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reis 12/09/18 2:05:23 PM #3:	who cares it's all just a hoax anyway <cite>Reis posted [p:913827897] in Largest sh... [t:77285324]...</cite> <quote>who cares it's all just a hoax anyway</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 12/09/18 2:05:52 PM #4:	Reis posted... who cares it's all just a hoax anyway More specifically a Chinese hoax. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:913827921] in Largest sh... [t:77285324]...</cite> <quote><cite>Reis posted...</cite> <quote>who cares it's all just a hoax anyway</quote> More specifically a Chinese hoax.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CornBarn 12/09/18 2:50:09 PM #5:	up <cite>CornBarn posted [p:913830363] in Largest sh... [t:77285324]...</cite> <quote>up</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 12/09/18 2:53:27 PM #6:	Too little too late --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:913830532] in Largest sh... [t:77285324]...</cite> <quote>Too little too late</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WinterFestival 12/09/18 2:54:41 PM #7:	2050 <cite>WinterFestival posted [p:913830587] in Largest sh... [t:77285324]...</cite> <quote>2050</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamenRiderBlade 12/09/18 3:00:42 PM #8:	Small nuclear powered reactors for shipping. No Carbon Emissions period. https://cleantechnica.com/2017/01/28/now-time-nuclear-cargo-shipping/ --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp '*Once Upon A Time in Mexico*' <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted [p:913830865] in Largest sh... [t:77285324]...</cite> <quote>Small nuclear powered reactors for shipping. No Carbon Emissions period. https://cleantechnica.com/2017/01/28/now-time-nuclear-cargo-shipping/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CornBarn 12/09/18 3:00:56 PM #9:	WinterFestival posted... 2050 They're predicting they'll be carbon neutral in eleven years or so. 2050 is when they'll be completely emission free. <cite>CornBarn posted [p:913830875] in Largest sh... [t:77285324]...</cite> <quote><cite>WinterFestival posted...</cite> <quote>2050</quote> They're predicting they'll be carbon neutral in eleven years or so. 2050 is when they'll be completely emission free.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 12/09/18 3:01:49 PM #10:	By 2050 the Earth will have been reduced to cinders and ash. --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:913830918] in Largest sh... [t:77285324]...</cite> <quote>By 2050 the Earth will have been reduced to cinders and ash.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkTransient 12/09/18 3:02:17 PM #11:	KamenRiderBlade posted... Small nuclear powered reactors for shipping. No Carbon Emissions period. https://cleantechnica.com/2017/01/28/now-time-nuclear-cargo-shipping/ Most of the people jumping on the climate change bandwagon have also jumped on the anti-nuclear one. Otherwise, it'd indeed be a great solution. --- https://imgtc.com/i/0mboxsZ.png <-- Tiamat is best babe, if you disagree you're objectively wrong. https://tinyurl.com/dtlamulana2 <-- La-Mulana 2 LP <cite>DarkTransient posted [p:913830939] in Largest sh... [t:77285324]...</cite> <quote><cite>KamenRiderBlade posted...</cite> <quote>Small nuclear powered reactors for shipping. No Carbon Emissions period. https://cleantechnica.com/2017/01/28/now-time-nuclear-cargo-shipping/</quote> Most of the people jumping on the climate change bandwagon have also jumped on the anti-nuclear one. Otherwise, it'd indeed be a great solution.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamenRiderBlade 12/09/18 3:11:14 PM #12:	DarkTransient posted... Most of the people jumping on the climate change bandwagon have also jumped on the anti-nuclear one. Otherwise, it'd indeed be a great solution. They're also mistaken on what's actually feasible. Yeah, it's all great & what not to be Pro Environment. But before you complain about it, propose a viable solution. Wind Powered & Solar Powered won't get your cargo ship to port in a reasonable amount of time. It may lower the amount of energy consumed, but it won't get it there at the same rate as current fossil fuel powered ones. Combining Wind Powered technological advances like: Fletnner Rotors: http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/09/spinning-metal-sails-could-slash-fuel-consumption-emissions-cargo-ships Kite Assissted Towing: https://www.csmonitor.com/Technology/Energy/2008/0403/a-secret-to-improving-cargo-ship-efficiency-go-fly-a-kite Hull Vane: https://www.hullvane.com/ They all help, but you need a solid base technology. Nothing is free in this world. Anybody telling you that it can be done needs to prove it. I think Nuclear Powered Shipping with these assisted technologies can make it very viable and Carbon Free Emission. A 10 year battery life for a Small Nuclear Reactor is nothing to scoff at. --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp '*Once Upon A Time in Mexico*' <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted [p:913831426] in Largest sh... [t:77285324]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkTransient posted...</cite> <quote>Most of the people jumping on the climate change bandwagon have also jumped on the anti-nuclear one. Otherwise, it'd indeed be a great solution.</quote>They're also mistaken on what's actually feasible. Yeah, it's all great & what not to be Pro Environment. But before you complain about it, propose a viable solution. Wind Powered & Solar Powered won't get your cargo ship to port in a reasonable amount of time. It may lower the amount of energy consumed, but it won't get it there at the same rate as current fossil fuel powered ones. Combining Wind Powered technological advances like: Fletnner Rotors: http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/09/spinning-metal-sails-could-slash-fuel-consumption-emissions-cargo-ships Kite Assissted Towing: https://www.csmonitor.com/Technology/Energy/2008/0403/a-secret-to-improving-cargo-ship-efficiency-go-fly-a-kite Hull Vane: https://www.hullvane.com/ They all help, but you need a solid base technology. Nothing is free in this world. Anybody telling you that it can be done needs to prove it. I think Nuclear Powered Shipping with these assisted technologies can make it very viable and Carbon Free Emission. A 10 year battery life for a Small Nuclear Reactor is nothing to scoff at.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 12/09/18 3:59:13 PM #13:	KamenRiderBlade posted... DarkTransient posted... Most of the people jumping on the climate change bandwagon have also jumped on the anti-nuclear one. Otherwise, it'd indeed be a great solution. They're also mistaken on what's actually feasible. Yeah, it's all great & what not to be Pro Environment. But before you complain about it, propose a viable solution. Wind Powered & Solar Powered won't get your cargo ship to port in a reasonable amount of time. It may lower the amount of energy consumed, but it won't get it there at the same rate as current fossil fuel powered ones. Combining Wind Powered technological advances like: Fletnner Rotors: http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/09/spinning-metal-sails-could-slash-fuel-consumption-emissions-cargo-ships Kite Assissted Towing: https://www.csmonitor.com/Technology/Energy/2008/0403/a-secret-to-improving-cargo-ship-efficiency-go-fly-a-kite Hull Vane: https://www.hullvane.com/ They all help, but you need a solid base technology. Nothing is free in this world. Anybody telling you that it can be done needs to prove it. I think Nuclear Powered Shipping with these assisted technologies can make it very viable and Carbon Free Emission. A 10 year battery life for a Small Nuclear Reactor is nothing to scoff at. So, obviously superior alternative is the near-extinction of the human race within a couple of decades --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:913833999] in Largest sh... [t:77285324]...</cite> <quote><cite>KamenRiderBlade posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkTransient posted...</cite> <quote> Most of the people jumping on the climate change bandwagon have also jumped on the anti-nuclear one. Otherwise, it'd indeed be a great solution.</quote>They're also mistaken on what's actually feasible. Yeah, it's all great & what not to be Pro Environment. But before you complain about it, propose a viable solution. Wind Powered & Solar Powered won't get your cargo ship to port in a reasonable amount of time. It may lower the amount of energy consumed, but it won't get it there at the same rate as current fossil fuel powered ones. Combining Wind Powered technological advances like: Fletnner Rotors: http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/09/spinning-metal-sails-could-slash-fuel-consumption-emissions-cargo-ships Kite Assissted Towing: https://www.csmonitor.com/Technology/Energy/2008/0403/a-secret-to-improving-cargo-ship-efficiency-go-fly-a-kite Hull Vane: https://www.hullvane.com/ They all help, but you need a solid base technology. Nothing is free in this world. Anybody telling you that it can be done needs to prove it. I think Nuclear Powered Shipping with these assisted technologies can make it very viable and Carbon Free Emission. A 10 year battery life for a Small Nuclear Reactor is nothing to scoff at.</quote> So, obviously superior alternative is the near-extinction of the human race within a couple of decades</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamenRiderBlade 12/09/18 4:41:48 PM #14:	Rika_Furude posted... So, obviously superior alternative is the near-extinction of the human race within a couple of decades How did you even come to that conclusion? I'm offering a new alternative to burning fossil fuels for transporting bulk cargo. What's your solution? --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp '*Once Upon A Time in Mexico*' <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted [p:913836440] in Largest sh... [t:77285324]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>So, obviously superior alternative is the near-extinction of the human race within a couple of decades</quote> How did you even come to that conclusion? I'm offering a new alternative to burning fossil fuels for transporting bulk cargo. What's your solution?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giblet_Enjoyer 12/10/18 7:08:20 PM #15:	CornBarn posted... slowly CornBarn posted... has thrown down a challenge for the rest of the industry CornBarn posted... will cut its carbon emissions completely by 2050 CornBarn posted... which is part of an industry responsible for about 3% of the worlds emissions Wowit'sfuckingnothing.jpg --- He which make friends with scorpion, soon come to find out what a scorpion does - they bite people with its tail --ancient Chinese proverb <cite>Giblet_Enjoyer posted [p:913905693] in Largest sh... [t:77285324]...</cite> <quote><cite>CornBarn posted...</cite> <quote>slowly</quote> <cite>CornBarn posted...</cite> <quote>has thrown down a challenge for the rest of the industry</quote> <cite>CornBarn posted...</cite> <quote>will cut its carbon emissions completely by 2050</quote> <cite>CornBarn posted...</cite> <quote>which is part of an industry responsible for about 3% of the worlds emissions</quote> Wowit'sfuckingnothing.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaithSayer 12/10/18 7:10:03 PM #16:	What if RIGHT AFTER we fix the problems we've created/sped up, yellowstone went off? <cite>SaithSayer posted [p:913905807] in Largest sh... [t:77285324]...</cite> <quote>What if RIGHT AFTER we fix the problems we've created/sped up, yellowstone went off?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CornBarn 12/10/18 7:11:02 PM #17:	Giblet_Enjoyer posted... CornBarn posted... slowly CornBarn posted... has thrown down a challenge for the rest of the industry CornBarn posted... will cut its carbon emissions completely by 2050 CornBarn posted... which is part of an industry responsible for about 3% of the worlds emissions Wowit'sfuckingnothing.jpg Please re-read the article and pay more attention. They will be carbon neutral within 11 years and this will completely change what is one of the biggest sources of carbon emissions. It's a huge deal. <cite>CornBarn posted [p:913905870] in Largest sh... [t:77285324]...</cite> <quote><cite>Giblet_Enjoyer posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CornBarn posted...</cite> <quote>slowly</quote> <cite>CornBarn posted...</cite> <quote>has thrown down a challenge for the rest of the industry</quote> <cite>CornBarn posted...</cite> <quote>will cut its carbon emissions completely by 2050</quote> <cite>CornBarn posted...</cite> <quote>which is part of an industry responsible for about 3% of the worlds emissions</quote> Wowit'sfuckingnothing.jpg</quote> Please re-read the article and pay more attention. They will be carbon neutral within 11 years and this will completely change what is one of the biggest sources of carbon emissions. It's a huge deal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giblet_Enjoyer 12/10/18 7:30:30 PM #18:	CornBarn posted... this will completely change what is one of the biggest sources of carbon emissions. Except that's a faith-based claim, you don't know that all the others will follow suit. Not to shit on your optimism or anything, but let's keep it real. --- He which make friends with scorpion, soon come to find out what a scorpion does - they bite people with its tail --ancient Chinese proverb <cite>Giblet_Enjoyer posted [p:913907099] in Largest sh... [t:77285324]...</cite> <quote><cite>CornBarn posted...</cite> <quote>this will completely change what is one of the biggest sources of carbon emissions.</quote> Except that's a faith-based claim, you don't know that all the others will follow suit. Not to shit on your optimism or anything, but let's keep it real.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 12/10/18 9:50:53 PM #19:	KamenRiderBlade posted... Rika_Furude posted... So, obviously superior alternative is the near-extinction of the human race within a couple of decades How did you even come to that conclusion? I'm offering a new alternative to burning fossil fuels for transporting bulk cargo. What's your solution? There is no solution that can be realistically implemented and have the desired effect of saving earth for future generations. That time has come and gone. Theres two possibilities now (in the long term after our generation is gone): Extinction Near extinction --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:913915102] in Largest sh... [t:77285324]...</cite> <quote><cite>KamenRiderBlade posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote> So, obviously superior alternative is the near-extinction of the human race within a couple of decades</quote> How did you even come to that conclusion? I'm offering a new alternative to burning fossil fuels for transporting bulk cargo. What's your solution?</quote> There is no solution that can be realistically implemented and have the desired effect of saving earth for future generations. That time has come and gone. Theres two possibilities now (in the long term after our generation is gone): Extinction Near extinction</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CornBarn 12/10/18 9:51:59 PM #20:	Rika_Furude posted... KamenRiderBlade posted... Rika_Furude posted... So, obviously superior alternative is the near-extinction of the human race within a couple of decades How did you even come to that conclusion? I'm offering a new alternative to burning fossil fuels for transporting bulk cargo. What's your solution? There is no solution that can be realistically implemented and have the desired effect of saving earth for future generations. That time has come and gone. Theres two possibilities now (in the long term after our generation is gone): Extinction Near extinction Completely incorrect <cite>CornBarn posted [p:913915152] in Largest sh... [t:77285324]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KamenRiderBlade posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote> So, obviously superior alternative is the near-extinction of the human race within a couple of decades</quote> How did you even come to that conclusion? I'm offering a new alternative to burning fossil fuels for transporting bulk cargo. What's your solution?</quote> There is no solution that can be realistically implemented and have the desired effect of saving earth for future generations. That time has come and gone. Theres two possibilities now (in the long term after our generation is gone): Extinction Near extinction</quote> Completely incorrect</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
0AbsoluteZero0 12/10/18 9:54:32 PM #21:	Rika_Furude posted... KamenRiderBlade posted... Rika_Furude posted... So, obviously superior alternative is the near-extinction of the human race within a couple of decades How did you even come to that conclusion? I'm offering a new alternative to burning fossil fuels for transporting bulk cargo. What's your solution? There is no solution that can be realistically implemented and have the desired effect of saving earth for future generations. That time has come and gone. Theres two possibilities now (in the long term after our generation is gone): Extinction Near extinction What a dumb statement. So humanitys near extinction is the best case scenario in your mind? Yeah, the situation is still very tenuous and that is a possibility, but to say its all but guaranteed is laughable. --- -The Admirable <cite>0AbsoluteZero0 posted [p:913915296] in Largest sh... [t:77285324]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KamenRiderBlade posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote> So, obviously superior alternative is the near-extinction of the human race within a couple of decades</quote> How did you even come to that conclusion? I'm offering a new alternative to burning fossil fuels for transporting bulk cargo. What's your solution?</quote> There is no solution that can be realistically implemented and have the desired effect of saving earth for future generations. That time has come and gone. Theres two possibilities now (in the long term after our generation is gone): Extinction Near extinction</quote> What a dumb statement. So humanitys near extinction is the best case scenario in your mind? Yeah, the situation is still very tenuous and that is a possibility, but to say its all but guaranteed is laughable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
josifrees 12/11/18 10:11:42 AM #22:	Hey we probably arent going to change anything AND I want my cheap Chinese knockoff bullshit in my hands ASAP --- Quit Crying <cite>josifrees posted [p:913938229] in Largest sh... [t:77285324]...</cite> <quote>Hey we probably arent going to change anything AND I want my cheap Chinese knockoff bullshit in my hands ASAP</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 12/11/18 2:54:18 PM #23:	0AbsoluteZero0 posted... Rika_Furude posted... KamenRiderBlade posted... Rika_Furude posted... So, obviously superior alternative is the near-extinction of the human race within a couple of decades How did you even come to that conclusion? I'm offering a new alternative to burning fossil fuels for transporting bulk cargo. What's your solution? There is no solution that can be realistically implemented and have the desired effect of saving earth for future generations. That time has come and gone. Theres two possibilities now (in the long term after our generation is gone): Extinction Near extinction What a dumb statement. So humanitys near extinction is the best case scenario in your mind? Yeah, the situation is still very tenuous and that is a possibility, but to say its all but guaranteed is laughable. Sorry to say but thats not even close to what i said. You need to try harder. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:913952981] in Largest sh... [t:77285324]...</cite> <quote><cite>0AbsoluteZero0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote> So, obviously superior alternative is the near-extinction of the human race within a couple of decades </quote> How did you even come to that conclusion? I'm offering a new alternative to burning fossil fuels for transporting bulk cargo. What's your solution? </quote> There is no solution that can be realistically implemented and have the desired effect of saving earth for future generations. That time has come and gone. Theres two possibilities now (in the long term after our generation is gone): Extinction Near extinction</quote> What a dumb statement. So humanitys near extinction is the best case scenario in your mind? Yeah, the situation is still very tenuous and that is a possibility, but to say its all but guaranteed is laughable.</quote> Sorry to say but thats not even close to what i said. You need to try harder.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fam_Fam 12/11/18 2:57:27 PM #24:	Rika_Furude posted... 0AbsoluteZero0 posted... Rika_Furude posted... KamenRiderBlade posted... Rika_Furude posted... So, obviously superior alternative is the near-extinction of the human race within a couple of decades How did you even come to that conclusion? I'm offering a new alternative to burning fossil fuels for transporting bulk cargo. What's your solution? There is no solution that can be realistically implemented and have the desired effect of saving earth for future generations. That time has come and gone. Theres two possibilities now (in the long term after our generation is gone): Extinction Near extinction What a dumb statement. So humanitys near extinction is the best case scenario in your mind? Yeah, the situation is still very tenuous and that is a possibility, but to say its all but guaranteed is laughable. Sorry to say but thats not even close to what i said. You need to try harder. you said near extinction is the best case scenario (unless you are saying extinction is better). that is all but guaranteed if there are no other possibilities. <cite>Fam_Fam posted [p:913953180] in Largest sh... [t:77285324]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>0AbsoluteZero0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote> So, obviously superior alternative is the near-extinction of the human race within a couple of decades </quote> How did you even come to that conclusion? I'm offering a new alternative to burning fossil fuels for transporting bulk cargo. What's your solution? </quote> There is no solution that can be realistically implemented and have the desired effect of saving earth for future generations. That time has come and gone. Theres two possibilities now (in the long term after our generation is gone): Extinction Near extinction</quote> What a dumb statement. So humanitys near extinction is the best case scenario in your mind? Yeah, the situation is still very tenuous and that is a possibility, but to say its all but guaranteed is laughable.</quote> Sorry to say but thats not even close to what i said. You need to try harder.</quote> you said near extinction is the best case scenario (unless you are saying extinction is better). that is all but guaranteed if there are no other possibilities.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 12/11/18 3:00:57 PM #25:	Fam_Fam posted... Rika_Furude posted... 0AbsoluteZero0 posted... Rika_Furude posted... KamenRiderBlade posted... Rika_Furude posted... So, obviously superior alternative is the near-extinction of the human race within a couple of decades How did you even come to that conclusion? I'm offering a new alternative to burning fossil fuels for transporting bulk cargo. What's your solution? There is no solution that can be realistically implemented and have the desired effect of saving earth for future generations. That time has come and gone. Theres two possibilities now (in the long term after our generation is gone): Extinction Near extinction What a dumb statement. So humanitys near extinction is the best case scenario in your mind? Yeah, the situation is still very tenuous and that is a possibility, but to say its all but guaranteed is laughable. Sorry to say but thats not even close to what i said. You need to try harder. you said near extinction is the best case scenario (unless you are saying extinction is better). that is all but guaranteed if there are no other possibilities. The best case scenario was hard policy changes 30-40 years ago. Or even 20. And by hard i mean very enforced. Weve already passed multiple "points of no return" already. And we cant prevent whats going to happen unless we start breaching human rights globally immediately. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:913953363] in Largest sh... [t:77285324]...</cite> <quote><cite>Fam_Fam posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>0AbsoluteZero0 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote> So, obviously superior alternative is the near-extinction of the human race within a couple of decades </quote> How did you even come to that conclusion? I'm offering a new alternative to burning fossil fuels for transporting bulk cargo. What's your solution? </quote> There is no solution that can be realistically implemented and have the desired effect of saving earth for future generations. That time has come and gone. Theres two possibilities now (in the long term after our generation is gone): Extinction Near extinction </quote> What a dumb statement. So humanitys near extinction is the best case scenario in your mind? Yeah, the situation is still very tenuous and that is a possibility, but to say its all but guaranteed is laughable. </quote> Sorry to say but thats not even close to what i said. You need to try harder. </quote> you said near extinction is the best case scenario (unless you are saying extinction is better). that is all but guaranteed if there are no other possibilities.</quote> The best case scenario was hard policy changes 30-40 years ago. Or even 20. And by hard i mean very enforced. Weve already passed multiple "points of no return" already. And we cant prevent whats going to happen unless we start breaching human rights globally immediately.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_BlueMonk 12/11/18 3:02:01 PM #26:	no!!! NOO WE NEED COAL CLEEEANN COOALLLLL --- Irene = BAE <3 https://i.imgtc.com/cCrrXV4.gif <cite>_BlueMonk posted [p:913953433] in Largest sh... [t:77285324]...</cite> <quote>no!!! NOO WE NEED COAL CLEEEANN COOALLLLL</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Current Events > Largest shipping company abandoning fossil fuels. Climate change will be fixed.