Current Events > The UK really is in meltdown right now. Let me catch you up.

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- A lot of people are unhappy with the Brexit deal
- It seems unlikely to get through the Commons vote anyway
- If it doesn't, we could easily have a no deal Brexit, which could make the economy shrink by 8%, which would cause the worst recession since the 1940s
- A lot of people are unhappy with the Prime Minister, and tonight they're doing a vote to possibly remove her from power
- If the Prime Minister it outed, it clearly isn't a good time for her to be replaced, because we're at crunch time with the Brexit process
- There's the uncertainty of who would replace her, if she is gone
- Also, if and when Brexit happens in some form, about 48% of the population (the people who voted to remain in the EU) are going to be really unhappy

I can't believe how all this has happened. It really is crazy. I mean, the last month or so has been very exciting and scary, but this is even worse.

What do you all think of it?

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Sunhawk posted...

What do you all think of it?

didn't read lol
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I want to stick my head in a big pile of sand and make it all go away at this point
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Are you a remainer or Brexiteer, pinky? Also, what do you think of the deal that May has presented the country with?
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Sunhawk posted...

What do you all think of it?

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Sunhawk posted...

Are you a remainer or Brexiteer, pinky? Also, what do you think of the deal that May has presented the country with?

I'm a remainer but at this point I don't know if cancelling brexit would even be wise anymore. Basically I think the entire thing has done nothing but weaken us magnificently.
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UK is like cats. they keep screaming for exit, but when the door finally opened they got confused and turned back.
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I just hope that it serves as an example to all the morons on this planet. All those who placed their faith in inexperienced right wing politicians who claimed to be the big saviors.Hopefully this makes them think for a second before they cast their vote in their next election.

It is about time that the people feel the consequences of their actions. Sorry it had to be you UK.
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I'm a remainer too, but I think Brexit should go ahead in SOME form, because it would clearly serve democracy.

Brexit has really messed up this country, though. This must be what the American Civil War was like, splitting things down the middle.

I expect Brexit will happen, however, probably with no deal. That's life, I guess.

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Ricemills posted...

UK is like cats. they keep screaming for exit, but when the door finally opened they got confused and turned back.

lol
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This is terrifying.
http://www.zocalopublicsquare.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Brexit-is-a-monstrosity-float-2017-10-01-in-manchester-photo-robert-mandel.jpg
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ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted...

I just hope that it serves as an example to all the morons on this planet. All those who placed their faith in inexperienced right wing politicians who claimed to be the big saviors.Hopefully this makes them think for a second before they cast their vote in their next election.

It is about time that the people feel the consequences of their actions. Sorry it had to be you UK.

As much as I despite tories and everything they stand for, at least they can rally a strong party and make decisions. Over on the other side of the fence we've got a bunch of wet blankets with no actual plan.

Similar to what appears to be happening in the US, in fact.
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Too bad they were mean to America, looks like we win again in the end : )

I've never understood most Americans (the ones on CE, as well) almost complete lack of interest in the rest of the world. Britain is having some of the biggest events of the last 50 years happening, but Americans don't seem to care much. If someone was murdered in a small town in Montana, Americans would want to tell us about it for a few days.
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Sunhawk posted...

I've never understood most Americans (the ones on CE, as well) almost complete lack of interest in the rest of the world. Britain is having some of the biggest events of the last 50 years happening, but Americans don't seem to care much. If someone was murdered in a small town in Montana, Americans would want to tell us about it for a few days.

Probably because we have no idea about your politics or how things work over there, so we have to good sense to keep our shitty opinions out of it.
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D-Lo_BrownTown posted...

Sunhawk posted...

I've never understood most Americans (the ones on CE, as well) almost complete lack of interest in the rest of the world. Britain is having some of the biggest events of the last 50 years happening, but Americans don't seem to care much. If someone was murdered in a small town in Montana, Americans would want to tell us about it for a few days.

Probably because we have no idea about your politics or how things work over there, so we have to good sense to keep our shitty opinions out of it.

Well, that logic sorta makes sense.

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I thought that forming the EU was to be against the U.S. and generally being hard-headed towards us. You might as well get over that somehow. You quit U.S.

Most Americans grow up thinking their country and it's people are the best. They have everything they need in their own country. They have all the nature you can dream of, all the big cities, all the small towns.

The only reason they have to leave their own country, is to experience other cultures. But because they have no real culture of their own ( that's not even meant as a dis, a country that is 300 years old can't have much of a culture yet), they are not interested in other cultures for the most part.

that ultimately leads to a bunch of people that are pretty ignorant to the rest of the world.
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id rather deal with brexit nonsense than deal with the malicious australian government
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@ALIEN_WORK2HOP

You honestly think after several hundred years, a country can't have a culture? Seriously?

Oh, and America is roughly 250 years old, not 300 years old. If it was, it would've been founded in about 1718.

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ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted...

Most Americans grow up thinking their country and it's people are the best. They have everything they need in their own country. They have all the nature you can dream of, all the big cities, all the small towns.

The only reason they have to leave their own country, is to experience other cultures. But because they have no real culture of their own ( that's not even meant as a dis, a country that is 300 years old can't have much of a culture yet), they are not interested in other cultures for the most part.

that ultimately leads to a bunch of people that are pretty ignorant to the rest of the world.

Stop quitting the U.S. you already quit move on. bye

To say America has no culture is a pretty ignorant statement to make anyways.
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Knowing nothing about world politics, we as Americans should welcome Britain as the 51st state.
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PiOverlord posted...

To say America has no culture is a pretty ignorant statement to make anyways.

Further, America has an amazing food culture. Britain does not have a food culture at all.

I guaran-fucking-tee you that when a british person on the internet says that Americans are uncultured and crass, he's the kind of bloke that thinks culture is sitting by the poolside at a resort in Magaluf drinking carling.
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I guess they have a gun culture and like fast food
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Sunhawk posted...

- A lot of people are unhappy with the Brexit deal
- It seems unlikely to get through the Commons vote anyway
- If it doesn't, we could easily have a no deal Brexit, which could make the economy shrink by 8%, which would cause the worst recession since the 1940s
- A lot of people are unhappy with the Prime Minister, and tonight they're doing a vote to possibly remove her from power
- If the Prime Minister it outed, it clearly isn't a good time for her to be replaced, because we're at crunch time with the Brexit process
- There's the uncertainty of who would replace her, if she is gone
- Also, if and when Brexit happens in some form, about 48% of the population (the people who voted to remain in the EU) are going to be really unhappy

I can't believe how all this has happened. It really is crazy. I mean, the last month or so has been very exciting and scary, but this is even worse.

What do you all think of it?

I am quite annoyed at 52% of the U.K. who voted brexit. It is a self inflicted wound.

I dont care about the excuses I hear, a lot of the brexit voters voted brexit out of racism and nostalgia for a time gone by. Even worse, some people fantasize that after Brexit the U.K. will turn to the British commonwealth and reignite the British empire (lmao!!!), some call it brexit 2.0

The biggest annoyance I have is that the U.K. unleashed nigel Farage into the world. He is not content with wrecking the U.K., he has been coming and stirring things in my country (us) and others too.

So yeah... with all that annoyance I am watching brexit with a big bucket of popcorn in my hands watching the U.K. shoot itself in the feet, its well deserved

catboy0_0 posted...

Sunhawk posted...

What do you all think of it?

didn't read lol

Probably difficult to read inbetween stalking people online.

Sunhawk posted...

I've never understood most Americans (the ones on CE, as well) almost complete lack of interest in the rest of the world. Britain is having some of the biggest events of the last 50 years happening, but Americans don't seem to care much. If someone was murdered in a small town in Montana, Americans would want to tell us about it for a few days.

Its a double edge sword. When a non British person gives a strong opinion about brexit responses like what do you about our politics, Yank? Is the most common response by far.

Sunhawk posted...

I've never understood most Americans (the ones on CE, as well) almost complete lack of interest in the rest of the world.

I'm very interested with what happens with Brexit, my problem though is that President Cheeto fucks things up pretty much daily. So I can't really absorb Brexit right now.
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Brexit was terrible.
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Yeah UK is fucked. Good job Brexiters.

Ricemills posted...

UK is like cats. they keep screaming for exit, but when the door finally opened they got confused and turned back.

lol
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Dang. It must be really bad over there.
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What I dont get is how they seem to believe that they could get a "perfect deal" while leaving EU.
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Foppe posted...

What I dont get is how they seem to believe that they could get a "perfect deal" while leaving EU.

They seem to think the EU needs the UK, more than the UK needs the EU, which is idiotic as hell.

JE19426 posted...

Foppe posted...

What I dont get is how they seem to believe that they could get a "perfect deal" while leaving EU.

They seem to think the EU needs the UK, more than the UK needs the EU, which is idiotic as hell.

Yeah I cant wrap my mind around the mentality of some brits.

I have heard them say just that (the EU will be doomed without the mighty brits, the brits dont need the EU), and also things like we could have won world war 2 by ourselves or Spain, Italy, Portugal and France are 3rd world compared to us.

But my personal favorite is when they complain about people in the U.K. not learning the language and customs, and thats why theyre expats and never going back to the U.K... and they say so from some bar in Spain, a bar made for British expats, full of other British expats, drinking a pint while watching the Liverpool soccer game

KainFourteh posted...

Probably difficult to read inbetween stalking people online.

huh
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That's what you get to listening to idiots like Trump

Brexit and Trump will go down as two of the worst votes of the 21st century
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This was always going to be a complete economy-fucking disaster and the people pushing for it largely knew that and never thought they'd win, which is why they almost all immediately fled in its aftermath.
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Sunhawk posted...

What do you all think of it?

The EU confirming that the UK can technically still cancel brexit basically guarantees that it won't happen now. Nobody wants a hard exit, but the assumption that they had to leave no matter what was the only thing getting any support behind a deal. Now there's basically no political Capital left to negotiate with the EU, and no justification for taking a hard exit, basically leaving remain as the only effective solution.

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Sunhawk posted...

I've never understood most Americans (the ones on CE, as well) almost complete lack of interest in the rest of the world. Britain is having some of the biggest events of the last 50 years happening, but Americans don't seem to care much. If someone was murdered in a small town in Montana, Americans would want to tell us about it for a few days.

I've tried making topics to discuss the giant antisemitism scandal inside of Labour, but nobody on either side of the ocean wants to touch that one apparently.
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