Current Events > god of war is a mediocre game that is only praised because its an exclusive

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MGS4 is a goddamned masterpiece
You just have to ignore the absolutely abhorrent writing at times.
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Tupacrulez posted...

MGS4 is a goddamned masterpiece
You just have to ignore the absolutely abhorrent writing at times.

You also have to ignore the gameplay falling off a cliff in the second half.
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Tupacrulez posted...

MGS4 is a goddamned masterpiece
You just have to ignore the absolutely abhorrent writing at times.

Movie Gear Solid 4 is a goddamned masterpiece
Just ignore 90% of the content
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spiderman is the biggest culprit of this. literally just the serviceable generational update youd expect to the well paved road of open world spiderman games but treated like the second coming of christ cause its ps4 only
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Darmik posted...

Webmaster4531 posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

So you there is multiple, world changing options available to you with multiple different outcomes and the possibility to skip or miss entire large segments of the narrative depending on your choices?

You only play games that do that? That's got to be the stupidest thing I've ever heard since no game does that.

Look man maybe he has been only playing Witcher 2 this entire time.

More like I enjoy games like Crusader Kings or Stellaris where the narrative is largely open, or games that are just purely games with barely a sense of narrative like Battlefield. There are also series like Fallout or Skyrim or Dragon Age or Mass Effect that largely ignore long, deep, linear narratives in favor of branching stories and missions (granted, not all entries in those series do it well). Then there is games with rogue-like elements like Darkest Dungeon that I love for the fact that the characters are largely blank slates I can project my own ideas onto.

Personally, I feel like games that abandon gameplay in favor of narrative are sacrificing one of the things games are best at, in order to try and focus on something that is usually a weaker part of video games. Whether it works or not, is not for me to say, I can only say my subjective opinion.

Again, though, I feel like I have to specify that I'm not saying it's a bad thing that games aren't all like that. I think it's good that some games are more linear and story focused. It's just not my sort of thing. I'm not saying I won't play games like that, I'm just saying that it's not my favorite sort of thing and I'm not going to go out of my way to play games that aren't really something I'm interested in (even if it's the best in the genre). I just don't get why people can't accept that their favorite game, regardless of whether it is good or not, may not appeal to every person on the planet.

I get what you're saying. You like WRPG's (I do think you're really overstating how much influence you have on those narratives and main quests though) and other games.

But God of War doesn't sacrifice anything for its narrative. That's what made it such a nice surprise. It's very much an action game. It's just one with a good story on top of it.
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Darmik posted...

(I do think you're really overstating how much influence you have on those narratives and main quests though)

Considering I didn't exactly specify what games, and that those were just the second or third example I listed (after games like Crusader Kings 2, which is very much like that), I feel like you are just trying to get a dig at me here.

Darmik posted...

But God of War doesn't sacrifice anything for its narrative. That's what made it such a nice surprise. It's very much an action game. It's just one with a good story on top of it.

But I don't like action games other than multiplayer FPS's, so ...

I get it, it's the best at what it does, and that's great, and I'm not saying it's a bad game or that it doesn't deserve the praise, I'm saying I have zero reason to play it and that it's annoying to have people constantly try and ram down my throat how it's a great game even if you don't like anything about the genre because ... reasons.

Disagree. Thought the other god of wars were meh. Fun shallow button Mashers.

This one took it up a notch with an engaging story and a cool interconnected world.

Just wish there were better boss battles.
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Dash_Harber posted...

and I'm not saying it's a bad game or that it doesn't deserve the praise, I'm saying I have zero reason to play it

That is reason though.
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Dash_Harber posted...

Darmik posted...

(I do think you're really overstating how much influence you have on those narratives and main quests though)

Considering I didn't exactly specify what games, and that those were just the second or third example I listed (after games like Crusader Kings 2, which is very much like that), I feel like you are just trying to get a dig at me here.

Darmik posted...

But God of War doesn't sacrifice anything for its narrative. That's what made it such a nice surprise. It's very much an action game. It's just one with a good story on top of it.

But I don't like action games other than multiplayer FPS's, so ...

I get it, it's the best at what it does, and that's great, and I'm not saying it's a bad game or that it doesn't deserve the praise, I'm saying I have zero reason to play it and that it's annoying to have people constantly try and ram down my throat how it's a great game even if you don't like anything about the genre because ... reasons.

I was referring to the WRPG's you listed.

Nobody is going down your throat because you don't like the genre. You came in here and said it looked linear which is incorrect.
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Darmik posted...

I was referring to the WRPG's you listed.

Just admit you were trying to dig in at me, seriously. I'm guessing God of War isn't as open world as Fallout 1 or 2.

Darmik posted...

Nobody is going down your throat because you don't like the genre. You came in here and said it looked linear which is incorrect.

Yes, everytime I say, "I don't like the genre because it is linear and I haven't ever played a game in the genre where I thought the story was well done", everyone goes, "NOOOO!!!! THE GAME IS AMAZING! YOU ARE WRONG!" and then says nothing to back it up.

Whatever man, I don't like the genre or the series, I guess we'll just have to leave it at that and I'll just ignore any topic like this from now on.

Dash_Harber posted...

"NOOOO!!!! THE GAME IS AMAZING! YOU ARE WRONG!" and then says nothing to back it up.

This right here just let everyone know that people do give reasons you just ignore everything. This wouldn't be the first time.
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Tupacrulez posted...

Webmaster4531 posted...

Hairistotle posted...

lack of boss variety

Is that just for the new one? All the others had mixes of Humanoid and Beast bossess that all have different loops and tells.

The first GoW game had all of 3 bosses. It was a MAJOR point of contention among people.

It's like this board has no memory whatsofuckingever

Yeah, it's been a while since I played it. Still 3 bosses is decent for a first in a series.

Dead Space 2 only having 3 bosses pissed me off.
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Dash_Harber posted...

Just admit you were trying to dig in at me, seriously. I'm guessing God of War isn't as open world as Fallout 1 or 2.

Dash_Harber posted...

There are also series like Fallout or Skyrim or Dragon Age or Mass Effect that largely ignore long, deep, linear narratives in favor of branching stories and missions (granted, not all entries in those series do it well).

Dude I was referring to that.

Dash_Harber posted...

Yes, everytime I say, "I don't like the genre because it is linear and I haven't ever played a game in the genre where I thought the story was well done", everyone goes, "NOOOO!!!! THE GAME IS AMAZING! YOU ARE WRONG!" and then says nothing to back it up.

Whatever man, I don't like the genre or the series, I guess we'll just have to leave it at that and I'll just ignore any topic like this from now on.

Reminder;
Dash_Harber posted...

I've never played it, so I can't really say.

Honestly, it looked really linear and I can't imagine the writing is anywhere near the quality of other storytelling mediums, so it just never really interested me.

That was your first post.

The game isn't linear and has a good story. I don't know why you're getting upset because your assumptions are being corrected.
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Darmik posted...

Dude I was referring to that.

Yes, as I said,

also. You picked out one of the many things I listed.

Darmik posted...

That was your first post.

The game isn't linear and has a good story. I don't know why you're getting upset because your assumptions are being corrected.

As I said, you are saying it isn't linear, but it's more linear than, say, Stellaris. I don't need to play it to know that. Maybe it would make more sense to you if you read it as, "it looked too linear for me".

I don't know why you're getting upset because your favorite games aren't loved by everyone.

Bullshit.
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Dash_Harber posted...

I don't know why you're getting upset because your favorite games aren't loved by everyone.

That's cute, but everyone can see your posts.
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Dash_Harber posted...

As I said, you are saying it isn't linear, but it's more linear than, say, Stellaris. I don't need to play it to know that. Maybe it would make more sense to you if you read it as, "it looked too linear for me".

Dude when you complain that a game is linear people aren't going to think you mean that it's more linear than Stellaris somehow.
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Darmik posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

As I said, you are saying it isn't linear, but it's more linear than, say, Stellaris. I don't need to play it to know that. Maybe it would make more sense to you if you read it as, "it looked too linear for me".

Dude when you complain that a game is linear people aren't going to think you mean that it's more linear than Stellaris somehow.

I'm not sure why not. Linear isn't a fucking X or Y. Obviously some things are going to be more linear than others and something can be more linear than X but not Y. If I say I don't like the genre because I find it linear, obviously I'm saying that it is more linear than games I enjoy. Obviously, that doesn't mean I think it's more linear than, say, an on the rails shooter.

Really, though, all it boils down to is that your world is shaken that someone might not be interested in something you enjoyed. How dare anyone not like popular item X!

Dash_Harber posted...

If I say I don't like the genre because I find it linear, obviously I'm saying that it is more linear than games I enjoy.

No that doesn't. Like, at all. In fact, that says that you don't like it because it's linear.

Dash_Harber posted...

Really, though, all it boils down to is that your world is shaken that someone might not be interested in something you enjoyed. How dare anyone not like popular item X!

You are horrible at accepting when you're wrong about something. You did the same shit when it came to claiming loot boxes aren't gambling. Grow the fuck up.
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I don't care that you're not interested.

But saying a game is linear makes it sound like the gameplay involves you going from point A to B over and over again with no choice. That's what a linear game is. This isn't complicated. It doesn't mean that it's more linear than non-linear games you like.

If you want to specify that you should do so from the start. Going by your weird tantrum over this Dragon Age and Mass Effect would be linear games too.
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Darmik posted...

I don't care that you're not interested.

But saying a game is linear makes it sound like the gameplay involves you going from point A to B over and over again with no choice. That's what a linear game is. This isn't complicated. It doesn't mean that it's more linear than non-linear games you like.

If you want to specify that you should do so from the start. Going by your weird tantrum over this Dragon Age and Mass Effect would be linear games too.

Jesus fuck, why even bother?

Okay, how about this, I hate the genre because I find it boring and every single game I've played in the genre has felt linear to me and the story was boring or weak. Does that satisfy your requirements for commenting here?

You're entitled to that opinion but it seems weird to keep targeting God of War with it if you just plain aren't interested in the entire genre.
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Darmik posted...

You're entitled to that opinion but it seems weird to keep targeting God of War with it if you just plain aren't interested in the entire genre.

Just can't let it go, huh?

The entire point of the topic was that someone else didn't like the game. If anyone targeted the game, it was TC.

A game isn't mediocre because you dislike the genre.

Linearity can be a reason why a game is mediocre. The Order 1886 being an example.

That's why you're being corrected.
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Darmik posted...

A game isn't mediocre because you dislike the genre.

Linearity can be a reason why a game is mediocre. The Order 1886 being an example.

That's why you're being corrected.

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I never said mediocre. I was very specific about how my only observation was that it didn't interest me.

Now you are literally just making up something I never said to keep arguing.

I mean, if y'all think God of War 2018 is linear, you should play a God of War game from before 2013. You go through a section, beat up enemies, get an item, unlock a door, go somewhere new and lock yourself out of the old area. There are parts where you get to double back and revisit old areas, but you're still locked out of a lot of the area from before and you're just there to unlock another path to somewhere new.

God of War 2018 isn't exactly open world to my knowledge, but fucking lol if folks think that it's linear. You're directed from point A to point B like any video game, and it's not as open as a Fallout or Elder Scrolls game, but there's a lot of leeway, there's side content and you can backtrack infinitely more than you could in just about any God of War title beforehand.
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There is no need to be upset over the Game Of The Year.
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GoW was overrated trash If we are being honest
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