Current Events > Why is it so popular for white people to hate white people?

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I've heard directly from 3-4 of my friends this year quotes like this in person:

"I hate white people"
"I hate this neighborhood, I feel strangled by all the white people"
"If only we could get rid of the white people"
"Yuck, that's so white!"
"Ew this is like white people music"

And more. Reminder that these quotes are coming from white people that apparently hate themselves and all others

Where is this coming from? I'm noticing many of these folks come from historically racist backgrounds, so maybe that is now inversed? But it's not exclusive to those types

I see this almost every week on Facebook too. People that self identify as white making blanket racist statements about whites

It's kind of a pathetic virtue signal of sorts to show that you are more righteous maybe? I'm trying to figure it out, but the more And more it happens, the more I roll my eyes

One of my friends literally called me out for being white as an insult in an unrelated discussion too. Very strange. They were white

Trying to keep this topic non political and more cultural and observational. Trying to figure this strange world out
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Are you acquainted with the idea that whiteness is inherently racist and any system (country for example) made by white people is systematically racist?

These people likely believe that the world is racist because of white people. They also likely believe that white people stole civilization from non-whites and exclusively profited off of them.

Would you disagree or have you even heard of this before?
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that idea is racist against white people
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it's a combination of white guilt and social media brainwashing
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TC is angry that his friends hate white people when they should be hating brown people like he does.

Forgettable posted...

White people won so hard throughout history they're now feeling bad for winning so hard.

TwoDoorPunkCab posted...

it's a combination of white guilt and social media brainwashing

Yep

White people need to start taking pride in their culture and ethnicity again and stop letting "White Pride" get hijacked by the left, and some on the right even, and morphed into a term that means "Nazi that would gas the jews and kill all brown people".

Which is the problem. you can't have a civil debate about white pride without being called a nazi. It's literally this:

Me: "It's okay to be white----"
Other person: "So you're a racist and/or nazi?"
Me: *Facepalm*

Blaming the left for white pride being associated with racism, lol

That's some Trump level shit right there.

All racial pride movements are associated with extremism and racism.
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NibeIungsnarf posted...

TC is angry that his friends hate white people when they should be hating brown people like he does.

i don't hate anyone

im enlightened
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People are either finding their edgyness early, or never grew out of it I'm assuming.
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kayoticdreamz posted...

Me: "It's okay to be white----"
Other person: "So you're a racist and/or nazi?"
Me: *Facepalm*

It's okay to be white seems like self reassurance to me. Like someone telling themselves that they don't have to feel bad over an aspect of them self that they have no control over. Other people seem to take it as an assault and attempt to keep minorities down. I suppose it's possible that it can be used like that, but it doesn't have to be.

A person could legitimately feel like trash for being associated to white people, but know that they can't escape it, so they tell themselves (and others) it's okay to be white in an outward display. It seems to get shutdown almost immediately, tho, and tagged as racist. Which, to me, is stupid. That could easily send the message that it's not okay to be white.

I feel, depending on the persons intent, it can be similar to it's okay to be black or it's okay to be (insert color here).
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kayoticdreamz posted...

stop letting "White Pride" get hijacked by the left,

Toppest of keks
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I feel bad for those peeps, liberal white chicks are especially like this. One of my Facebook friends who lives in the Deep South and hangs with only white ppl and is an admitted alcoholic/drug addict spends her days posting political memes, and when she makes her own she says shit like beware white ppl you soon wont exist, soon all the interracial fornicating will eradicate you completely! Its pretty sad, she seemed pretty chill back when I first met her lol. And yes shes white as can be

Kombucha posted...

All racial pride movements are associated with extremism and racism.

Not at all. Just a simple Google image search of each of those phrases can easily tell you what they're all about.
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kayoticdreamz posted...

Me: "It's okay to be white----"
Other person: "So you're a racist and/or nazi?"
Me: *Facepalm*

IOtbW is a classic passive aggressive statement. It implies that people think otherwise, which imples that nonwhites are racist. Then it provides a nice little cushion to hide behind when people call you on your BS. "lol all I said was it's ok!"

Thing is, literally nobody is falling for it.
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Dyinglegacy posted...

kayoticdreamz posted...

Me: "It's okay to be white----"
Other person: "So you're a racist and/or nazi?"
Me: *Facepalm*

It's okay to be white seems like self reassurance to me. Like someone telling themselves that they don't have to feel bad over an aspect of them self that they have no control over. Other people seem to take it as an assault and attempt to keep minorities down. I suppose it's possible that it can be used like that, but it doesn't have to be.

A person could legitimately feel like trash for being associated to white people, but know that they can't escape it, so they tell themselves (and others) it's okay to be white in an outward display. It seems to get shutdown almost immediately, tho, and tagged as racist. Which, to me, is stupid. That could easily send the message that it's not okay to be white.

I feel, depending on the persons intent, it can be similar to it's okay to be black or it's okay to (insert color here).

And thats the problem, the reaction the phrase "it's okay to be white" generates indicates that it is not okay to be white and that there is some inherent guilt in being white.

the phrase is simply trying to tell white people that it is okay to be white and that you aren't the world's boogeyman like some would have you to believe, but the fact people immediately respond with "you're a nazi/racist" proves that point that it isn't okay to be white and as such the message of "its okay to be white" actually needs to be spread further.

Blacks have black pride
latinos have latin pride.
Asians have Asian pride.

Whites should have white pride, but they very clearly do not, and the ones that do get instantly blasted as nazis. Which given enough time will probably actually create real nazis.

kayoticdreamz posted...

And thats the problem, the reaction the phrase "it's okay to be white" generates indicates that it is not okay to be white and that there is some inherent guilt in being white.

No, it indicates dubiousness as to your sincerity in not being racist when you use racist buzzwords.

Especially when you try to blame the left for 'white pride' having a bad rep.

In my experience, it tends to be because white people wouldn't fuck them and they can't accept that it's because they're shitty people.

Its trendy virtue signaling.
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kayoticdreamz posted...

And thats the problem, the reaction the phrase "it's okay to be white" generates indicates that it is not okay to be white and that there is some inherent guilt in being white.

The reaction is because there's never been a point in U.S. history where it wasn't okay to be white, and the phrase itself only exists for people to falsely victimize themselves when their race has been favored by anybody in a position of power since the United States was formed. Usually to deflect away from the problems minorities face.
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A_Good_Boy posted...

Kombucha posted...

All racial pride movements are associated with extremism and racism.

Not at all. Just a simple Google image search of each of those phrases can easily tell you what they're all about.

The Han Chinese are pretty horrible to ethnic minorities generally speaking- looking at what they've done. They're pretty proud of their culture to the point where they're actively looking to eradicate any semblance of opposition culture within their borders. As a result the pride they hold has literally created retraining camps to eradicate minority beliefs/culture and identity. It's not something that's only dangerous when white people do it.

Try to think instead of letting Google do it for you.
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I hate white guilt, liberal media started this crap 10 years ago. I remember family guy doing it, before I stopped watching it.

Its just white libs trying really hard to show their not rasict
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NibeIungsnarf posted...

kayoticdreamz posted...

And thats the problem, the reaction the phrase "it's okay to be white" generates indicates that it is not okay to be white and that there is some inherent guilt in being white.

No, it indicates dubiousness as to your sincerity in not being racist when you use racist buzzwords.

Especially when you try to blame the left for 'white pride' having a bad rep.

What else are they suppose to say to express their "it's okay to be white" sentiment. I mean, what would appease the crowed? Just set there and shut the fuck up, I guess?

It's cheesy, but I just wish people could get along. We clearly can't, tho.
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

The reaction is because there's never been a point in U.S. history where it wasn't okay to be white, and the phrase itself only exists for people to falsely victimize themselves when their race has been favored by anybody in a position of power since the United States was formed. Usually to deflect away from the problems minorities face.

Say someone legitimately feels like it's not okay to be white. Say they look at the atrocities that whites have committed, and they feel that they share blame. I mean, obviously it's illogical to feel that way, as they are likely not personally responsible, but never the less, people can be illogical.

They feel a need to express self reassurance outwardly, so what then? Just internalize it? Seek therapy?
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Kombucha posted...

A_Good_Boy posted...

Kombucha posted...

All racial pride movements are associated with extremism and racism.

Not at all. Just a simple Google image search of each of those phrases can easily tell you what they're all about.

The Han Chinese are pretty horrible to ethnic minorities generally speaking- looking at what they've done. They're pretty proud of their culture to the point where they're actively looking to eradicate any semblance of opposition culture within their borders. As a result the pride they hold has literally created retraining camps to eradicate minority beliefs/culture and identity. It's not something that's only dangerous when white people do it.

Try to think instead of letting Google do it for you.

The fact that you're stretching just to compare whites in America with the Han Chinese in China let's me know that you already know that you're just bullshitting.
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Joking about white people not being good at something has always been common and I wouldn't actually call it hate.
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A_Good_Boy posted...

Kombucha posted...

A_Good_Boy posted...

Kombucha posted...

All racial pride movements are associated with extremism and racism.

Not at all. Just a simple Google image search of each of those phrases can easily tell you what they're all about.

The Han Chinese are pretty horrible to ethnic minorities generally speaking- looking at what they've done. They're pretty proud of their culture to the point where they're actively looking to eradicate any semblance of opposition culture within their borders. As a result the pride they hold has literally created retraining camps to eradicate minority beliefs/culture and identity. It's not something that's only dangerous when white people do it.

Try to think instead of letting Google do it for you.

The fact that you're stretching just to compare whites in America with the Han Chinese in China let's me know that you already know that you're just bullshitting.

I'm saying that racial pride movements are mistaken and there are multiple instances across history that will show you that is the case. You can go ahead and think otherwise, but you would be mistaken. There is nothing more special about your race or anyone elses. We are all humans that should demand equal respect as such.

And pulling from the example of the Han Chinese is actually a modern, relevant and obvious example that is happening right now. It's not even stretching into historical contexts. The fact that this example seems so far away from you just goes to show that you probably live in the same bubble that most Americans do.
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I think racial pride is kind of a dumb concept.
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Kombucha posted...

A_Good_Boy posted...

Kombucha posted...

A_Good_Boy posted...

Kombucha posted...

All racial pride movements are associated with extremism and racism.

Not at all. Just a simple Google image search of each of those phrases can easily tell you what they're all about.

The Han Chinese are pretty horrible to ethnic minorities generally speaking- looking at what they've done. They're pretty proud of their culture to the point where they're actively looking to eradicate any semblance of opposition culture within their borders. As a result the pride they hold has literally created retraining camps to eradicate minority beliefs/culture and identity. It's not something that's only dangerous when white people do it.

Try to think instead of letting Google do it for you.

The fact that you're stretching just to compare whites in America with the Han Chinese in China let's me know that you already know that you're just bullshitting.

I'm saying that racial pride movements are mistaken and there are multiple instances across history that will show you that is the case. You can go ahead and think otherwise, but you would be mistaken. There is nothing more special about your race or anyone elses. We are all humans that should demand equal respect as such.

And pulling from the example of the Han Chinese is actually a modern, relevant and obvious example that is happening right now. It's not even stretching into historical contexts. The fact that this example seems so far away from you just goes to show that you probably live in the same bubble that most Americans do.

It's also contextless. What do the Han Chinese have more to do with white people in America than black people in America or Hispanics in America or hell, even the Chinese that actually do live in America?

I mean sure, if you want to compare American whites to a racially oppressive majority in China then go right ahead, but that's you saying white people in America are similar to a racially oppressive majority, and nobody else.
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DoubleDare posted...

I hate white guilt, liberal media started this crap 10 years ago. I remember family guy doing it, before I stopped watching it.

Its just white libs trying really hard to show their not rasict

and it doesn't work, white people dont understand that they are actually still white and that wont change.
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Dyinglegacy posted...

I think racial pride is kind of a dumb concept.

Eh I think it's kind of a fraternity thing. Like it's not "yeah look at how much pigment I have" but it's more like "I'm in the same group as guys like George Washington Carver, MLK and Nelson Mandela!"

Or at least, that's what I would be proud of, I think.
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A_Good_Boy posted...

Kombucha posted...

A_Good_Boy posted...

Kombucha posted...

A_Good_Boy posted...

Kombucha posted...

All racial pride movements are associated with extremism and racism.

Not at all. Just a simple Google image search of each of those phrases can easily tell you what they're all about.

The Han Chinese are pretty horrible to ethnic minorities generally speaking- looking at what they've done. They're pretty proud of their culture to the point where they're actively looking to eradicate any semblance of opposition culture within their borders. As a result the pride they hold has literally created retraining camps to eradicate minority beliefs/culture and identity. It's not something that's only dangerous when white people do it.

Try to think instead of letting Google do it for you.

The fact that you're stretching just to compare whites in America with the Han Chinese in China let's me know that you already know that you're just bullshitting.

I'm saying that racial pride movements are mistaken and there are multiple instances across history that will show you that is the case. You can go ahead and think otherwise, but you would be mistaken. There is nothing more special about your race or anyone elses. We are all humans that should demand equal respect as such.

And pulling from the example of the Han Chinese is actually a modern, relevant and obvious example that is happening right now. It's not even stretching into historical contexts. The fact that this example seems so far away from you just goes to show that you probably live in the same bubble that most Americans do.

It's also contextless. What do the Han Chinese have more to do with white people in America than black people in America or Hispanics in America or hell, even the Chinese that actually do live in America?

I mean sure, if you want to compare American whites to a racially oppressive majority in China then go right ahead, but that's you saying white people in America are similar to a racially oppressive majority, and nobody else.

Here's what it has to do with the context of the situation- racial pride is something all groups can exhibit - not just white people. That is the point in bringing up the Han Chinese. We know that a majority-minority situation exists when it does but this is not always the same as borders and populations are in flux. Just because one race might be a minority now does not mean they will not be a majority in the future- and they will carry their racial pride with them and repeat the mistakes of history if they haven't learned from the dangers of racial bias and pride. The abuse of the majority position stems from old roots related to this mistaken pride. Just because a minority population isn't capable of abusing their pride because their position is not one of privilege doesn't mean that the pride won't become dangerous as the situation and power dynamics shift (hello South Africa). You'll see this is relevant as Minority-Majority situations are expected to change in the United States over the next half century.

If we don't get this right (which I doubt we will) the cycle will just continue on. There is nothing great about racial pride, and there are so many examples of that in our country alone that it's baffling to close your eyes to why it can be and is dangerous.

tldr the only thing that separates racial pride from being good or bad is minority/majority status, but it is the root of the problem on the whole.
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All I read out of that post is you acknowledge that white pride is coming from a different place than minority pride yet you want to waste my time with a pointless argument about how they could possibly be similar a couple hundred years from now.

Like, *yawn*.
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A_Good_Boy posted...

All I read out of that post is you acknowledge that white pride is coming from a different place than minority pride yet you want to waste my time with a pointless argument about how they could possibly be similar a couple hundred years from now.

Like, *yawn*.

Whatever.

I've laid out a coherent argument on exactly why racial pride is mistaken and you've yet to defend it once with any argument outside of your initial post (Google images???) so I'll just assume you're being pointlessly aversive. Have a good one.
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