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sktgamer_13dude
12/22/18 2:28:28 PM
#101:


AssultTank posted...
Once you start justifying violence against those who have done no violence to others, you start on a path that is the same one the Nazis took in the 1930s. They didn't start out with a "Kill all Jews" slogan. They started by claiming that the rich Jewish people in Germany were harming others through economic control. This led to the Nazi party doing absolutely horrendous things, but it started much in the same way as the Occupy movement.

Basically they gained power by making the Jewish people into a scapegoat for all the troubles in the nation, then from there eventually justified violence, and concentration camps.

Basically, I don't condone violence against anyone who has not done actual violence to others. Sticks and stones guys... Sticks and stones.

Nazism is horrendous, and I will never condone it, but I will defend the rights of people tp hold horrendous beliefs because once you justify silencing someone, it gets very easy to justify silencing others.

>neo-Nazi gets beat up
>brings up Holocaust to defend said neo-Nazi

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Southernfatman
12/22/18 2:33:36 PM
#104:


I've said this before. Remember when Neville Chamberlain was universally made fun of and derided for appeasing the Nazis? Whatever happened to that?

The OG Nazis started out with just words and their "opinions". Let's not let this shit fester again and go to horrible places again.
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Broseph_Stalin
12/22/18 2:34:27 PM
#105:


You said the Nazi party started out as a peaceful organization and then compared them to Muslims and Catholics.

You are defending neo-nazis.
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The Great Muta 22
12/22/18 2:35:01 PM
#106:


QwelzaarKane posted...
Muslims are supposed to stand for better things, too. The ones I've known do and are all very kind, good-hearted people. Thanks for reinforcing the point about brown vs. white people jfc.


Don't you know? To these people they "aren't true Muslims" and don't "actually follow Islam". Because forget the idea of trying to reshape your religion for the positive when it's easier to insult and attack people
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A_Good_Boy
12/22/18 2:39:03 PM
#108:


Weird how these calls for civility only exist in these topics about nazis. I never see it in topics about Antifa. I certainly never saw it when people would talk about how awesome it would be to run over BLM protestors.
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PleaseClap
12/22/18 2:40:40 PM
#109:


AssultTank posted...
organization... Then they radicalized to the atrocious thing they were in the 1940s.

The night of the long knifes happened in 1934. Kristallnacht happened in 1938.
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A_Good_Boy
12/22/18 2:43:49 PM
#111:


AssultTank posted...
When Antifa gets topics it is usually because they engage in violence

With who?
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Broseph_Stalin
12/22/18 2:44:52 PM
#113:


AssultTank posted...
The Nazi party DID start out as a peaceful political organization...


Are you actually this uninformed or just really desperate to defend Nazis? The SA was founded the very same year as the Nazi party. From day one they were fully committed to violence.

AssultTank posted...
And the comparison was one I noted as not perfect... Maybe you need to learn to read.


Maybe you need to stop comparing other people to a group that is inherently violent.
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Broseph_Stalin
12/22/18 2:46:18 PM
#114:


AssultTank posted...
But before they came to power, the Nazis were just another political party.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturmabteilung
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_Hall_Putsch

Absolutely clueless, like every other racist.
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The Great Muta 22
12/22/18 2:47:35 PM
#115:


AssultTank posted...
The Nazi party DID start out as a peaceful political organization... Then they radicalized to the atrocious thing they were in the 1940s.


Stop talking about subjects you know nothing about. Or do you not know of the street brawls the brown shirts engaged in during Hitlers initial rise? Or the fact that before he wrote Mein Kampf he tried to start a violent coup and was arrested for it.

Like seriously you think they didn't get radicalized until the 1940s? Jfc that's utterly fucking wrong
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A_Good_Boy
12/22/18 2:47:41 PM
#116:


What good has Nazism ever done for the world? Why should I feel sorry that people that further their ideology get what they deserve?
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SmidgeIsntBack
12/22/18 2:48:55 PM
#117:


Assult man stop digging.
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Southernfatman
12/22/18 2:49:26 PM
#118:


Well, this partially explains some moderations and lack of moderations.
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The Great Muta 22
12/22/18 2:49:57 PM
#119:


AssultTank posted...
PleaseClap posted...
AssultTank posted...
organization... Then they radicalized to the atrocious thing they were in the 1940s.

The night of the long knifes happened in 1934. Kristallnacht happened in 1938.

Okay, I have the timeline wrong in my head. For that I admit fault. But before they came to power, the Nazis were just another political party.


No they fucking weren't. Stop talking about stuff you clearly never studied
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UnfairRepresent
12/22/18 2:56:52 PM
#120:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
it scares me how okay people are with committing violence against those they disagree with


Really? It "scares" you? Sounds like you need to toughen up a bit

How tough I am makes no difference on the groups of people beating up other people for not agreeing with them.

Whih you know. Your argument was inane.QwelzaarKane posted...


Fighting words are a thing.


"I'm going to go burn down that church because I want to burn motherfuckers" is fighting words.

"I disagree with you." is not.

Stop encouraging violence.
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Completion
12/22/18 3:03:23 PM
#121:


Assulttank looking extremely suspicious rn
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A_Good_Boy
12/22/18 3:04:45 PM
#122:


Completion posted...
Assulttank looking extremely suspicious rn

Woah, Mr. I'm-nervous-around-black-people is suspiciously defensive of a neo-nazi? Say it ain't so!
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thronedfire2
12/22/18 3:05:06 PM
#123:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
Zikten posted...
Crazyman93 posted...
Also, it took FIVE people to beat up one 65 year old man


Antifa tend to be weak. Each of them is like level 20. And he's level 50. They are lucky they didn't raid wipe


What in the living fuck are you talking about? You sound like a crazy person


well KKK members do act like D&D nerds with all the titles they give their leaders
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Broseph_Stalin
12/22/18 3:06:16 PM
#124:


A_Good_Boy posted...
Woah, Mr. I'm-nervous-around-black-people is suspiciously defensive of a neo-nazi? Say it ain't so!


It's ok to judge all black people, just don't do it to Nazis.
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mybbqrules
12/22/18 3:06:48 PM
#125:


Crazyman93 posted...
dreamvoid posted...
Police are still investigating what caused the fight.

I'm not a detective or anything, but I'd imagine his support of Nazism started it.

Also, it took FIVE people to beat up one 65 year old man? Really?


As Ron White would say, "It didn't take 5 of them to whip his ass, but that's how many they used."
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Zero_Destroyer
12/22/18 3:07:36 PM
#126:


UnfairRepresent posted...

Stop encouraging violence.


the basic platform of neo nazi groups is literal genocide

they are encouraging violence and should be silenced
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SchoolForAnts
12/22/18 3:10:00 PM
#127:


AssultTank posted...
Once you start justifying violence against those who have done no violence to others, you start on a path that is the same one the Nazis took in the 1930s. They didn't start out with a "Kill all Jews" slogan. They started by claiming that the rich Jewish people in Germany were harming others through economic control. This led to the Nazi party doing absolutely horrendous things, but it started much in the same way as the Occupy movement.

Basically they gained power by making the Jewish people into a scapegoat for all the troubles in the nation, then from there eventually justified violence, and concentration camps.

Basically, I don't condone violence against anyone who has not done actual violence to others. Sticks and stones guys... Sticks and stones.

Nazism is horrendous, and I will never condone it, but I will defend the rights of people tp hold horrendous beliefs because once you justify silencing someone, it gets very easy to justify silencing others.


CE, when you get thrown the TOS at you for calling out the likes of shokan and caution while they go on their merry way posting basically the 14 words, remember this bOtH sIdES mod.
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SchoolForAnts
12/22/18 3:11:38 PM
#128:


QwelzaarKane posted...
AssultTank posted...
Once you start justifying violence against those who have done no violence to others, you start on a path that is the same one the Nazis took in the 1930s. They didn't start out with a "Kill all Jews" slogan. They started by claiming that the rich Jewish people in Germany were harming others through economic control. This led to the Nazi party doing absolutely horrendous things, but it started much in the same way as the Occupy movement.

Basically they gained power by making the Jewish people into a scapegoat for all the troubles in the nation, then from there eventually justified violence, and concentration camps.

Basically, I don't condone violence against anyone who has not done actual violence to others. Sticks and stones guys... Sticks and stones.

Nazism is horrendous, and I will never condone it, but I will defend the rights of people tp hold horrendous beliefs because once you justify silencing someone, it gets very easy to justify silencing others.


They are committing violence, though. Domestic terrorism from white nationalists is and has been a very real threat. It's insane how people are so gung-ho about stomping out terrorism until it's white people doing the killing. Like, how would you feel if the dude had joined up with ISIS instead of neo-nazis?

E: and holy fucking shit. You really brought up the holocaust in defense of a neo-nazi.


Yeah lol
Nazis: we want genocide
The people in OP: we dont want genocide

Asstank: both sides!! I cant tell between the two! (Paraphrasing here)
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SchoolForAnts
12/22/18 3:13:55 PM
#129:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
AssultTank posted...
Once you start justifying violence against those who have done no violence to others, you start on a path that is the same one the Nazis took in the 1930s. They didn't start out with a "Kill all Jews" slogan. They started by claiming that the rich Jewish people in Germany were harming others through economic control. This led to the Nazi party doing absolutely horrendous things, but it started much in the same way as the Occupy movement.

Basically they gained power by making the Jewish people into a scapegoat for all the troubles in the nation, then from there eventually justified violence, and concentration camps.

Basically, I don't condone violence against anyone who has not done actual violence to others. Sticks and stones guys... Sticks and stones.

Nazism is horrendous, and I will never condone it, but I will defend the rights of people tp hold horrendous beliefs because once you justify silencing someone, it gets very easy to justify silencing others.


How do people this stupid become mods?


The fish stinks from the head down.

Who would be ok with admiral being a mod? And then asstank too. Probabaly the same guy who thinks that the kind of stuff posted here by caution or glitteringfairy is ok
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SchoolForAnts
12/22/18 3:15:24 PM
#130:


AssultTank posted...
QwelzaarKane posted...
They are committing violence, though.

The ones committing violence are getting put in prison. You can't just go around attacking people because others in the group are committing crimes. Imagine if we started punching out Catholic Priests because some were pedopholes. Now I know that comparison isn't perfect, Catholics are supposed to stand for better things... Perhaps a better comparuson would be going around punching Muslims because some Muslims are extremists who commit acts of terrorism...QwelzaarKane posted...
. Like, how would you feel if the dude had joined up with ISIS instead of neo-nazis?

As long as he was not engaged in the planning or execution of any attacks, I would say nobody should attack him. I'm very consistent in this belief.

And no, I wasn't defending a neo nazi. I was condemning violence. There is a difference.

Oh shit.

This guy literally compares catholic priests to actual literal Nazis.

Are you trying to be the new admiral?

Also, think about it, if a CEman compared 45 supporters to Nazis he would get nodded instantly. But catholic priests? Fair game! Very fine people, folks!
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SchoolForAnts
12/22/18 3:17:55 PM
#131:


RaptorLC posted...
Again, people were arrested for disorderly conduct, not assault or anything else you would expect if they ganged up and beat the shit out of the guy.

Maybe try waiting until we actually know what happened before choosing to die on this hill?


Ah yes l, we dont have all the facts, guys.

Youre reaching admiral levels now. Are you the mod protecting Shokan, glittering or caution?
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Completion
12/22/18 3:19:06 PM
#132:


I just noticed AssultTank has 791 AMP. God damn dude. When's the last time you saw sunlight
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RaptorLC
12/22/18 3:20:14 PM
#133:


SchoolForAnts posted...
Ah yes l, we dont have all the facts, guys.

Youre reaching admiral levels now. Are you the mod protecting Shokan, glittering or caution?


I'd ask you what the fuck you're mewling about, but it's pretty apparent that you have no idea yourself.
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Broseph_Stalin
12/22/18 3:21:11 PM
#134:


RaptorLC posted...
I'd ask you what the fuck you're mewling about, but it's pretty apparent that you have no idea yourself.


You can delete that post ITT where the racist mod calls the Nazi party peaceful at any time btw.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
12/22/18 3:25:34 PM
#135:


AssultTank posted...
Broseph_Stalin posted...
You said the Nazi party started out as a peaceful organization and then compared them to Muslims and Catholics.

You are defending neo-nazis.

The Nazi party DID start out as a peaceful political organization... Then they radicalized to the atrocious thing they were in the 1940s.

And the comparison was one I noted as not perfect... Maybe you need to learn to read.

Neo Nazi beliefs are entirely abhorent. But as long as they do not engage in violence, leave them alone.


Nah, he doesn't need to learn to read. You need to learn not to use extreme understatements because calling your comparison "not perfect" is a severe hypobole if that's a word.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
12/22/18 3:29:55 PM
#136:


RaptorLC posted...
SchoolForAnts posted...
Ah yes l, ?we don?t have all the facts, guys?.

You?re reaching admiral levels now. Are you the mod protecting Shokan, glittering or caution?


I'd ask you what the fuck you're mewling about, but it's pretty apparent that you have no idea yourself.


It looks to me as though he misunderstood your post and thought you were taking a different stance.
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SchoolForAnts
12/22/18 3:30:43 PM
#137:


Southernfatman posted...
Well, this partially explains some moderations and lack of moderations.


Damn right
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UnfairRepresent
12/22/18 3:32:22 PM
#138:


Zero_Destroyer posted...


the basic platform of neo nazi groups is literal genocide

they are encouraging violence and should be silenced


And so what if people decide your opinions are encouraging violence? Do they get to beat the shit out of you and laugh?

You're advocating lunacy.

Use your words, not your fists. Violence is not the answer to people who disagree with you. Your parents should have taught you this when you were 3 years old
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SchoolForAnts
12/22/18 3:38:33 PM
#139:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
AssultTank posted...
Broseph_Stalin posted...
You said the Nazi party started out as a peaceful organization and then compared them to Muslims and Catholics.

You are defending neo-nazis.

The Nazi party DID start out as a peaceful political organization... Then they radicalized to the atrocious thing they were in the 1940s.

And the comparison was one I noted as not perfect... Maybe you need to learn to read.

Neo Nazi beliefs are entirely abhorent. But as long as they do not engage in violence, leave them alone.


Nah, he doesn't need to learn to read. You need to learn not to use extreme understatements because calling your comparison "not perfect" is a severe hypobole if that's a word.


Seriously! Lol. What a cop out.

Lets see some of the stuff he has said:

Nazis are like catholic priests
*uses the holocaust to say that it was wrong to confront the nazi*
Nazis began as peaceful

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Completion
12/22/18 3:45:35 PM
#140:


Get insta-suspended w/ no moderation history for "CE's biggest idiots"

"Nazis started out as a peaceful party" fair game

Lol gamefaqs
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PleaseClap
12/22/18 3:56:15 PM
#142:


Just, what a blindingly ignorant interpretation of history. Unbelievable
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UnfairRepresent
12/22/18 3:58:34 PM
#144:


Hairistotle posted...
assulttank please stop like wtf are you doing man u know this cant be a good look

He's defended worse in the past.

Completely defended Admiral when he made his infamous posts I would be modded if I posted.

However that doesn't mean attacking people for disagreeing with you is acceptable.
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PleaseClap
12/22/18 4:00:12 PM
#146:


UnfairRepresent posted...
Completely defended Admiral when he made his infamous posts I would be modded if I posted.

You're going to have to narrow it down a little more
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SchoolForAnts
12/22/18 4:00:33 PM
#147:


Hairistotle posted...
assulttank please stop like wtf are you doing man u know this cant be a good look


Thats the thing... he doesnt care if its a bad look man :/

Sucks huh?
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The Great Muta 22
12/22/18 4:01:24 PM
#149:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
RaptorLC posted...
I'd ask you what the fuck you're mewling about, but it's pretty apparent that you have no idea yourself.


You can delete that post ITT where the racist mod calls the Nazi party peaceful at any time btw.


I hope he doesn't, because that insanity needs to be highlighted to show the level of lunacy some of the mods have here
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UnfairRepresent
12/22/18 4:03:16 PM
#150:


PleaseClap posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Completely defended Admiral when he made his infamous posts I would be modded if I posted.

You're going to have to narrow it down a little more

I'm not going down that road again. There's no point.

All I'm doing is blocking the deflection of "It's okay to attack people if they disagree with you because.......... ... ... .. ... .. HEY! This user is a jerk! Let's insult him a lot!"

It's wrong to attack people for their opinions just because you don't like them
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