Current Events > Americans of CE: Do you support building a wall between the USA and Mexico?

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Geiki Ganger
12/22/18 2:48:05 PM
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The Trump Wall - Results (18 votes)
Yes, this is what we need to do to keep America safe and great.
22.22% (4 votes)
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No, WTF, why is this ridiculous notion even being considered.
72.22% (13 votes)
13
Depends on who pays for it. I could lean either way.
5.56% (1 vote)
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Just wondering.
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PMarth2002
12/22/18 2:59:32 PM
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The US-mexico border is like two thousand miles long.

A wall isn't going to do shit. Its a waste of money.
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Perascamin
12/22/18 3:07:11 PM
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Why would a border wall be a bad thing? We quite literally have a service like border patrol because people crossing into our country illegally is such a problem that we need a service like that.

A wall would reduce the need for that service. A wall would mean that anyone who entered had to so do through the entrance, like normal people. There isn't an argument to be made for why we shouldn't have one.
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Smashingpmkns
12/22/18 3:11:48 PM
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Perascamin posted...
Why would a border wall be a bad thing? We quite literally have a service like border patrol because people crossing into our country illegally is such a problem that we need a service like that.

A wall would reduce the need for that service. A wall would mean that anyone who entered had to so do through the entrance, like normal people. There isn't an argument to be made for why we shouldn't have one.


It's super expensive
Most illegal immigrants are here off of expired Visas
It's essentially racist as it only focuses on immigration from Mexico and central America
The upkeep would be super expensive
You would still need a border patrol so it essentially doesnt do anything in terms of cutting costs

It's a waste of money.
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glitteringfairy
12/22/18 3:11:51 PM
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Hell yea! Build that wall!!!!
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CosmicShadows
12/22/18 3:12:48 PM
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There's no option for 'i don't give a F***'?
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Space_Man
12/22/18 3:12:56 PM
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lol just get a travel visa and then stay
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andel
12/22/18 3:13:39 PM
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hell no. trump is such a dipshit, so much for the promise of mexico paying for it
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Broseph_Stalin
12/22/18 3:13:42 PM
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Perascamin posted...
There isn't an argument to be made for why we shouldn't have one.


There is if you're actually informed, which you clearly aren't.
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glitteringfairy
12/22/18 3:15:13 PM
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Hairistotle posted...
dont most illegal immigrants come here thru legal channels then just stay when theyre supposed to leave

what's a wall gonna do to stop that

We'll stop issuing visas of course
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Perascamin
12/22/18 3:15:58 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
Perascamin posted...
There isn't an argument to be made for why we shouldn't have one.


There is if you're actually informed, which you clearly aren't.

Then make your argument.
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12/22/18 3:16:02 PM
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Perascamin
12/22/18 3:16:41 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Perascamin posted...
Why would a border wall be a bad thing? We quite literally have a service like border patrol because people crossing into our country illegally is such a problem that we need a service like that.

A wall would reduce the need for that service. A wall would mean that anyone who entered had to so do through the entrance, like normal people. There isn't an argument to be made for why we shouldn't have one.


It's super expensive
Most illegal immigrants are here off of expired Visas
It's essentially racist as it only focuses on immigration from Mexico and central America
The upkeep would be super expensive
You would still need a border patrol so it essentially doesnt do anything in terms of cutting costs

It's a waste of money.

What about illegal drug smuggling and runners?
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Broseph_Stalin
12/22/18 3:18:07 PM
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Perascamin posted...
Then make your argument.


Why bother making an argument when you aren't looking for one?

If you cared about being informed you'd know people come here legally and then overstay their visas.

It's a waste of time to argue with someone who likes the idea of a wall for purely emotional reasons.
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Houston
12/22/18 3:21:35 PM
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Hairistotle posted...
dont most illegal immigrants come here thru legal channels then just stay when theyre supposed to leave


42% of illegal immigration is that.
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Smashingpmkns
12/22/18 3:22:28 PM
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Perascamin posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
Perascamin posted...
Why would a border wall be a bad thing? We quite literally have a service like border patrol because people crossing into our country illegally is such a problem that we need a service like that.

A wall would reduce the need for that service. A wall would mean that anyone who entered had to so do through the entrance, like normal people. There isn't an argument to be made for why we shouldn't have one.


It's super expensive
Most illegal immigrants are here off of expired Visas
It's essentially racist as it only focuses on immigration from Mexico and central America
The upkeep would be super expensive
You would still need a border patrol so it essentially doesnt do anything in terms of cutting costs

It's a waste of money.

What about illegal drug smuggling and runners?


A lot of those actually use tunnels too. There's plenty of ways to get around the wall especially when it comes to drugs lol
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KainWind
12/22/18 3:22:55 PM
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Let's just put up a 30 foot wall on every single border of every single country.
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ThePrinceFish
12/22/18 3:23:37 PM
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Yep. Also for universal e verify in order to catch people working on expired visas.
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Houston
12/22/18 3:23:55 PM
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A wall absolutely will help keep people out. Right now they're just walking across.

Opponents of the wall list their main reason as "the cost", which is bull shit. They dont want the wall because they want them in the country.
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glitteringfairy
12/22/18 3:24:05 PM
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Hairistotle posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Hairistotle posted...
dont most illegal immigrants come here thru legal channels then just stay when theyre supposed to leave

what's a wall gonna do to stop that

We'll stop issuing visas of course

non sequitur dont bother responding if ur not gonna answer

Just did respond
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cerealbox760
12/22/18 3:33:06 PM
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Waste of money. Steel slats already exist and a border wall won't add much benefit. The idea that a wall will increase security and fix illegal immigration is fantasy. There's that and border hoppers don't compare in numbers with people over staying their visas. Oh and it will be very expensive. Not the wall itself but the lawsuits that postpone construction. So even if it gets approved, there's no way it's getting built quick enough while Trump is in office. The project will get shut down by democrats eventually. Those who advocate building a wall ignore the logistics of actually building it.
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Perascamin
12/22/18 3:36:34 PM
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Hairistotle posted...
Perascamin posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
Perascamin posted...
Why would a border wall be a bad thing? We quite literally have a service like border patrol because people crossing into our country illegally is such a problem that we need a service like that.

A wall would reduce the need for that service. A wall would mean that anyone who entered had to so do through the entrance, like normal people. There isn't an argument to be made for why we shouldn't have one.


It's super expensive
Most illegal immigrants are here off of expired Visas
It's essentially racist as it only focuses on immigration from Mexico and central America
The upkeep would be super expensive
You would still need a border patrol so it essentially doesnt do anything in terms of cutting costs

It's a waste of money.

What about illegal drug smuggling and runners?

ending the war on drugs would be cheaper and more effective

and better for americans

Are you suggesting that all of the hard drugs should be legal? Marijuana isn't what's coming out of Central America if that's what you mean.
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Perascamin
12/22/18 3:37:56 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Perascamin posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
Perascamin posted...
Why would a border wall be a bad thing? We quite literally have a service like border patrol because people crossing into our country illegally is such a problem that we need a service like that.

A wall would reduce the need for that service. A wall would mean that anyone who entered had to so do through the entrance, like normal people. There isn't an argument to be made for why we shouldn't have one.


It's super expensive
Most illegal immigrants are here off of expired Visas
It's essentially racist as it only focuses on immigration from Mexico and central America
The upkeep would be super expensive
You would still need a border patrol so it essentially doesnt do anything in terms of cutting costs

It's a waste of money.

What about illegal drug smuggling and runners?


A lot of those actually use tunnels too. There's plenty of ways to get around the wall especially when it comes to drugs lol

Some, but not all. We can also always collapse tunnels.
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frozenshock
12/22/18 3:40:18 PM
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Most illegals pass through normal checkpoints and overstay their visa or get smuggled in, etc.

Some people pass through the large wastelands where a wall might stop them but it's really a minority

The real way to limit illegal immigration is to make things better at the border checkpoints

The wall is just a waste of money

But it looks good so it's all politics
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cerealbox760
12/22/18 3:40:34 PM
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And then there's drones and submarines delivering drugs. So I propose a force field and make mexico pay for it.
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VictimComplex
12/22/18 3:43:16 PM
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Waste of money. Most Americans don't want it. Just far right people
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monkmith
12/22/18 3:43:23 PM
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i'm absolutely all for a mexico funded wall. free walls never hurt anyone.
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Houston
12/22/18 3:48:33 PM
#35:


frozenshock posted...
Most illegals pass through normal checkpoints and overstay their visa or get smuggled in, etc.


About 42% do, according to Politico.
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catboy0_0
12/22/18 3:50:33 PM
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I don't think it's viable. If we got it for free somehow, I wouldn't mind it.
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