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solosnake
05/12/19 8:38:09 AM
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https://www.thegamer.com/anthem-mass-effect-andromeda-bioware-cancel/
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Irony
05/12/19 8:39:08 AM
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Please take Bioware out back like Old Yeller
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JuanCarlos1
05/12/19 8:48:23 AM
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Poetic justice since they ruined ME over this.
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St0rmFury
05/12/19 8:49:03 AM
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Hahahaha
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Error1355
05/12/19 9:02:26 AM
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Good 'ol EA. Won't even let them try to save Anthem I guess lol
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Irony
05/12/19 9:29:28 AM
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Error1355 posted...
Good 'ol EA. Won't even let them try to save Anthem I guess lol

The issues with Anthem is more than bugs, they'd have to completely overhaul the game to fix the gameplay design flaws. I doubt very many would come back anyways so it's cheaper to just pull the plug.
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Funkydog
05/12/19 9:30:31 AM
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Irony posted...
Error1355 posted...
Good 'ol EA. Won't even let them try to save Anthem I guess lol

The issues with Anthem is more than bugs, they'd have to completely overhaul the game to fix the gameplay design flaws. I doubt very many would come back anyways so it's cheaper to just pull the plug.

Pretty much.

This does leave me with basically no hope for more Dragon Age though. Or at least nothing good and that actually continues the story/lore anyway.
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Tyranthraxus
05/12/19 9:37:30 AM
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Bioware: (releases Anthem)
Players: Oh shit this game is actually fun
Bioware: Whoops, our bad. That's a bug, we're going to patch it out.
Players: (quit en masse)
Bioware: surprisedpikachu.jpg
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OctaviaMelody69
05/12/19 9:42:34 AM
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Anthem would need a complete rework like the original FFXIV
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Vicious_Dios
05/12/19 9:45:09 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Bioware: (releases Anthem)
Players: Oh shit this game is actually fun
Bioware: Whoops, our bad. That's a bug, we're going to patch it out.
Players: (quit en masse)
Bioware: surprisedpikachu.jpg


I completely missed the Anthem train, but what about it was fun, and what did they patch out?
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codey
05/12/19 9:48:51 AM
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Aren't all the Bioware people that made their classic games gone at this point? Take the company behind the shed and put it out of its misery.
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Darkninja42
05/12/19 9:54:00 AM
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@Vicious_Dios posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
Bioware: (releases Anthem)
Players: Oh shit this game is actually fun
Bioware: Whoops, our bad. That's a bug, we're going to patch it out.
Players: (quit en masse)
Bioware: surprisedpikachu.jpg


I completely missed the Anthem train, but what about it was fun, and what did they patch out?

A big complaint about the game is how bad the loot drops are for the better stuff. At one point a patch accidentally made the drops better and the player base was happy, and then Bioware patched it to go back to drip feeding. I think that actually happened twice.
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nemu
05/12/19 10:01:37 AM
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Games as a service needs to die. EA needs to die.
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St0rmFury
05/12/19 10:05:17 AM
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There's also that thing where the starting gun is actually better than rare loot you get later.
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MedeaLysistrata
05/12/19 10:12:08 AM
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Irony posted...
Please take Bioware out back like Old Yeller

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MedeaLysistrata
05/12/19 10:12:14 AM
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DoomsSD posted...
nemu posted...
Games as a service needs to die. EA needs to die.

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Jiggy101011
05/12/19 10:18:15 AM
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Anthem will be at E3 though.
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Tryhaptaward
05/12/19 10:20:37 AM
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At least they still support Fallout 76
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Hexenherz
05/12/19 10:34:45 AM
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I am just really shocked that literally anyone is surprised by this, or that literally anyone expected a good game on release period. I still can't wrap my head around the idea that people saw the preview footage for Anthem and thought "This is it, I'm going to be enjoying this for a full year after release". It looked bland and empty back then. And obviously Bioware has been going down the drain for years now.

I don't understand why there are still millions of people out there who have high expectations for these garbage titles being announced and released.
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CountDog
05/12/19 10:35:17 AM
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Well unless Bioware has some grand plan its going to be an expensive venture. Might as well cut as little as possible and move. Its not going to look good for Bioware, but they can recover if they have some other project that is much better. They'll lose a lot of trust, but good marketing and a solid product can always repair.

Just being optimistic, I didn't purchase Anthem, I'm sure they can always add things here and there unless the maps themselves are bad or the game is just bad, I don't know.
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Tyranthraxus
05/12/19 10:35:29 AM
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Vicious_Dios posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
Bioware: (releases Anthem)
Players: Oh shit this game is actually fun
Bioware: Whoops, our bad. That's a bug, we're going to patch it out.
Players: (quit en masse)
Bioware: surprisedpikachu.jpg


I completely missed the Anthem train, but what about it was fun, and what did they patch out?

A bug temporarily increased the amount of loot that was dropped and people were actually having fun.
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UnfairRepresent
05/12/19 10:39:17 AM
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Didn't Anthem have a 7 year development cycle?

There's no way Bioware can "fix" it with patches after the fact.

The game flopped. EA is right to just move on.
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pogo_rabid
05/12/19 10:41:46 AM
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nemu posted...
Games as a service needs to die. EA needs to die.


Just because shit AAA companies fail at managing their financial expeciations with GAAS, doesn't mean other companies don't do it right. (looking at you Warframe)
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Darkninja42
05/12/19 10:47:36 AM
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Hexenherz posted...
I am just really shocked that literally anyone is surprised by this, or that literally anyone expected a good game on release period. I still can't wrap my head around the idea that people saw the preview footage for Anthem and thought "This is it, I'm going to be enjoying this for a full year after release". It looked bland and empty back then. And obviously Bioware has been going down the drain for years now.

I don't understand why there are still millions of people out there who have high expectations for these garbage titles being announced and released.

I agree that it never looked impressive from what they showed pre-release. It looked to mainly consist of fighting bullet sponge enemies and boring looking supers going off every few minutes. The flying looked cool I guess but not enough to warrant a purchase. Opinions differ obviously but I really want someone to tell me what was appealing to them about what they showed.
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spudger
05/12/19 10:49:42 AM
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Wasnt there also some issue with you not even needing to level up your weapons because the leveling system is fucked up
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Taharqa_
05/12/19 10:55:33 AM
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To quote a buddy of mine, "Man I just wanna smoke a blunt and fly around like Iron Man". For some people that's all that's needed to sell a game, but Anthem looked boring af to me way before release.

Bioware is just an empty husk now. The team that brought us Mass Effect and Dragon Age is no longer there.
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Zerocide
05/12/19 10:59:07 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Bioware: (releases Anthem)
Players: Oh shit this game is actually fun
Bioware: Whoops, our bad. That's a bug, we're going to patch it out.
Players: (quit en masse)
Bioware: surprisedpikachu.jpg

Seriously, what the hell were they thinking?

MedeaLysistrata posted...
DoomsSD posted...
nemu posted...
Games as a service needs to die. EA needs to die.

Also this, it's a problem that's too transparent in the looter shooter genre and needs to fucking go.
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Hexenherz
05/12/19 11:16:07 AM
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spudger posted...
Wasnt there also some issue with you not even needing to level up your weapons because the leveling system is fucked up

They used a scaling system to compensate for lower level players joining higher level players, but because of that it turned out that the starter weapons did just as much damage, if not moreso, than the higher level weapons.
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Vicious_Dios
05/12/19 11:18:00 AM
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Darkninja42 posted...
A big complaint about the game is how bad the loot drops are for the better stuff. At one point a patch accidentally made the drops better and the player base was happy, and then Bioware patched it to go back to drip feeding. I think that actually happened twice.


Jesus....
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St0rmFury
05/12/19 12:06:42 PM
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I present to you one of the best posts in the Anthem subreddit:

How the Anthem devs communicate and respond to the community's wishes.

Permit me this analogy, if you will:

Community: Wow. Sure is hot today. Wish I had something cool to drink.

Devs: Interesting for you to say that. I went to the store today. Check in the refrigerator. I think you'll be surprised.

Community: Baking soda? But... I can't drink this?

Devs: Never said you could. All I said was that it was in the refrigerator, it came from the store, and I thought you would be surprised. Everything I said was accurate.

Community: But you said it in response to me wanting a drink.

Devs: Ok.

Community: Which implies that... look, point is, this doesn't solve the problem.

Devs: Ok.

Community: So, what am I going to drink?

Devs: Noted. But you agree baking soda will make the fridge smell better?

Community: What do you mean 'noted'? That's not an answer.

Devs: I'm always listening to your feedback and I'm hard at work.

Community: No, you're sidestepping my questions.

Devs: Look, if you're going to get toxic, I'm going to leave and there will be no more baking soda ever.

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Error1355
05/12/19 12:11:59 PM
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lol nice
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sylverlolol
05/12/19 12:12:59 PM
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St0rmFury posted...
I present to you one of the best posts in the Anthem subreddit:

How the Anthem devs communicate and respond to the community's wishes.

Permit me this analogy, if you will:

Community: Wow. Sure is hot today. Wish I had something cool to drink.

Devs: Interesting for you to say that. I went to the store today. Check in the refrigerator. I think you'll be surprised.

Community: Baking soda? But... I can't drink this?

Devs: Never said you could. All I said was that it was in the refrigerator, it came from the store, and I thought you would be surprised. Everything I said was accurate.

Community: But you said it in response to me wanting a drink.

Devs: Ok.

Community: Which implies that... look, point is, this doesn't solve the problem.

Devs: Ok.

Community: So, what am I going to drink?

Devs: Noted. But you agree baking soda will make the fridge smell better?

Community: What do you mean 'noted'? That's not an answer.

Devs: I'm always listening to your feedback and I'm hard at work.

Community: No, you're sidestepping my questions.

Devs: Look, if you're going to get toxic, I'm going to leave and there will be no more baking soda ever.

lmfao

Spot on. Do you have a link to this?
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St0rmFury
05/12/19 12:14:02 PM
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sylverlolol posted...
lmfao

Spot on. Do you have a link to this?

Sure do.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AnthemTheGame/comments/b7ql8x/how_the_anthem_devs_communicate_and_respond_to/

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Funkydog
05/12/19 12:29:06 PM
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sylverlolol posted...
Spot on. Do you have a link to this?

And before the game came out they were doing pretty great interactions with the fans and then....

Just a sharp turn to nothing.
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spudger
05/12/19 12:33:49 PM
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Hexenherz posted...
spudger posted...
Wasnt there also some issue with you not even needing to level up your weapons because the leveling system is fucked up

They used a scaling system to compensate for lower level players joining higher level players, but because of that it turned out that the starter weapons did just as much damage, if not moreso, than the higher level weapons.

xD

what a shitshow
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Hexenherz
05/12/19 1:10:33 PM
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spudger posted...
Hexenherz posted...
spudger posted...
Wasnt there also some issue with you not even needing to level up your weapons because the leveling system is fucked up

They used a scaling system to compensate for lower level players joining higher level players, but because of that it turned out that the starter weapons did just as much damage, if not moreso, than the higher level weapons.

xD

what a shitshow

The worst was the matchmaking for missions. The game didn't matchmake you for missions you had already completed or unlocked, it just matchmaked you for *everything*, so brand new players who used the matchmake function to find a group could literally be thrown into the final mission (which did happen).
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codey
05/12/19 1:29:08 PM
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Hexenherz posted...
spudger posted...
Hexenherz posted...
spudger posted...
Wasnt there also some issue with you not even needing to level up your weapons because the leveling system is fucked up

They used a scaling system to compensate for lower level players joining higher level players, but because of that it turned out that the starter weapons did just as much damage, if not moreso, than the higher level weapons.

xD

what a shitshow

The worst was the matchmaking for missions. The game didn't matchmake you for missions you had already completed or unlocked, it just matchmaked you for *everything*, so brand new players who used the matchmake function to find a group could literally be thrown into the final mission (which did happen).


"Wow, the beginning of this game is epic and all but wtf is going on?"
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pres_madagascar
05/12/19 1:31:35 PM
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Lmao. With reports the matchmaking basically doesn't work anymore because there's so few playing. Ouch.
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Hexenherz
05/12/19 1:32:04 PM
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codey posted...
Hexenherz posted...
spudger posted...
Hexenherz posted...
spudger posted...
Wasnt there also some issue with you not even needing to level up your weapons because the leveling system is fucked up

They used a scaling system to compensate for lower level players joining higher level players, but because of that it turned out that the starter weapons did just as much damage, if not moreso, than the higher level weapons.

xD

what a shitshow

The worst was the matchmaking for missions. The game didn't matchmake you for missions you had already completed or unlocked, it just matchmaked you for *everything*, so brand new players who used the matchmake function to find a group could literally be thrown into the final mission (which did happen).


"Wow, the beginning of this game is epic and all but wtf is going on?"

lol, the video I saw, these guys were at the final part of the mission and this level 3 guy joins and they're like "Uh... Have you... played the rest of the game already?" They were nice enough to let him know he should quit, so that was cool.
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Zerocide
05/12/19 1:42:04 PM
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They manage to fail harder than F76A.
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Tyranthraxus
05/12/19 1:58:20 PM
#43:


Zerocide posted...
They manage to fail harder than F76A.

@DarkRoast
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Darkninja42
05/12/19 2:04:14 PM
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Hexenherz posted...
codey posted...
Hexenherz posted...
spudger posted...
Hexenherz posted...
spudger posted...
Wasnt there also some issue with you not even needing to level up your weapons because the leveling system is fucked up

They used a scaling system to compensate for lower level players joining higher level players, but because of that it turned out that the starter weapons did just as much damage, if not moreso, than the higher level weapons.

xD

what a shitshow

The worst was the matchmaking for missions. The game didn't matchmake you for missions you had already completed or unlocked, it just matchmaked you for *everything*, so brand new players who used the matchmake function to find a group could literally be thrown into the final mission (which did happen).


"Wow, the beginning of this game is epic and all but wtf is going on?"

lol, the video I saw, these guys were at the final part of the mission and this level 3 guy joins and they're like "Uh... Have you... played the rest of the game already?" They were nice enough to let him know he should quit, so that was cool.

I saw that too, they were in such disbelief that the game even allowed that to happen.
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