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au_gold
05/13/19 1:07:16 AM
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Because Im thinking that he is.
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Mistere Man
05/13/19 1:07:47 AM
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Examples?
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CruelBuffalo
05/13/19 1:08:23 AM
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Mistere Man posted...
Examples?


Running straight into a trap in battle of the bastard and only being saved due to plot armor
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HBOSS
05/13/19 1:09:07 AM
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DoomsSD posted...
You know nothing Jon Snow...

confirmed, verified, and sealed.
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De Evolution
05/13/19 1:09:41 AM
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Jon Snow has been dumbed down so much I don't even like him anymore.

I like zero of the characters at this point of season 8.

What a sad end to this show.
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DavidZ2844
05/13/19 1:10:12 AM
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DoomsSD posted...
You know nothing Jon Snow...

This right here was stated many times throughout the show

So why is this a surprise to some lol, theyre staying faithful to what was being said about him
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au_gold
05/13/19 1:10:35 AM
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Mistere Man posted...
Examples?

Telling people his real identity when he doesnt want the Iron Throne, for starters.
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Mistere Man
05/13/19 1:11:19 AM
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au_gold posted...
Mistere Man posted...
Examples?

Telling people his real identity when he doesnt want the Iron Throne, for starters.

True that is very dumb.
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CruelBuffalo
05/13/19 1:11:48 AM
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De Evolution posted...
Jon Snow has been dumbed down so much I don't even like him anymore.

I like zero of the characters at this point of season 8.

What a sad end to this show.

Arya?
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De Evolution
05/13/19 1:13:07 AM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
De Evolution posted...
Jon Snow has been dumbed down so much I don't even like him anymore.

I like zero of the characters at this point of season 8.

What a sad end to this show.

Arya?


Arya isn't even Arya anymore.

She's been a complete caricature arguably since season 6, and certainly since season 7.
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CruelBuffalo
05/13/19 1:14:36 AM
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De Evolution posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
De Evolution posted...
Jon Snow has been dumbed down so much I don't even like him anymore.

I like zero of the characters at this point of season 8.

What a sad end to this show.

Arya?


Arya isn't even Arya anymore.

She's been a complete caricature arguably since season 6, and certainly since season 7.


How is she a caricature...and a caricature of what
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au_gold
05/13/19 1:22:34 AM
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How dumb is Jon Snow?

Jon Snow is so dumb that he bent the knee to a Southern Queen.
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YookaLaylee
05/13/19 1:26:03 AM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
De Evolution posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
De Evolution posted...
Jon Snow has been dumbed down so much I don't even like him anymore.

I like zero of the characters at this point of season 8.

What a sad end to this show.

Arya?


Arya isn't even Arya anymore.

She's been a complete caricature arguably since season 6, and certainly since season 7.


How is she a caricature...and a caricature of what

All of her dialogue since she returned to Westeros is cringey Edge lord stuff. They try too hard to make her seem badass and it just comes across like shes an emo hot topic kid

Gendry: White walkers are like death. Trust me you dont want anything to do with them
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St0rmFury
05/13/19 1:37:18 AM
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YookaLaylee posted...
All of her dialogue since she returned to Westeros is cringey Edge lord stuff. They try too hard to make her seem badass and it just comes across like shes an emo hot topic kid

Gendry: White walkers are like death. Trust me you dont want anything to do with them
Arya: I know death. It has many faces. I look forward to seeing this one!

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DavidZ2844
05/13/19 1:47:14 AM
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So how did Arya gain these magical superhuman powers again? Her insane combat abilities and super speed that were supposed to believe she got while training in Braavos, which consisted of her just simply getting beat multiple times by sticks (absolutely nothing else was shown other than her winning only one stick duel while blind). Next, she was in a ridiculous chase scene where she got stabbed multiple times and should not have been able to parkour through the city like she did, then somehow beat the waif despite being severely injured, and after all that she leaves Braavos and all of a sudden now has these superhuman abilities she never had before?

Arya is the most ridiculous shit character in the entire show, she only serves as undeserved fan service that makes no sense whatsoever. She didnt earn any of her crazy god like abilities that she uses to defeat the most powerful supernatural entity in the show.
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au_gold
05/13/19 2:22:15 AM
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Arya trained in the arts of the Many Faced God, which means she can do literally anything.

Difference is, Arya is at least doing stuff. Jon hasnt done dick this entire season, unless you count his dragon fight with the Night King, during which he did nothing.
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au_gold
05/13/19 2:52:57 AM
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When you think about it, Jon is responsible for every single death at Kings Landing. Not only is he an idiot, hes kind of an asshole.
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Hexenherz
05/13/19 2:54:22 AM
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Can someone explain how the show ended and stuff I'm not gonna watch it.
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TendoDRM
05/13/19 2:54:50 AM
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DavidZ2844 posted...
So how did Arya gain these magical superhuman powers again? Her insane combat abilities and super speed that were supposed to believe she got while training in Braavos, which consisted of her just simply getting beat multiple times by sticks (absolutely nothing else was shown other than her winning only one stick duel while blind). Next, she was in a ridiculous chase scene where she got stabbed multiple times and should not have been able to parkour through the city like she did, then somehow beat the waif despite being severely injured, and after all that she leaves Braavos and all of a sudden now has these superhuman abilities she never had before?

Arya is the most ridiculous shit character in the entire show, she only serves as undeserved fan service that makes no sense whatsoever. She didnt earn any of her crazy god like abilities that she uses to defeat the most powerful supernatural entity in the show.

Powers that she only seems to have when the plot calls for it, too.
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Vita_Aeterna
05/13/19 3:10:00 AM
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Jon Snow is stupid as fuck. Should have never told anyone but Daenerys about the secret. He did. And he fucked it all up for literally everyone.

edit: I hope he doesn't sit on the throne. Not fit to be a king.
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pegusus123456
05/13/19 4:05:27 AM
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Jon Snow's pretty stupid, but I think we can all agree that Jamie Lannister is the DUMBEST motherfucker to ever walk the lands of Westeros.
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Smashingpmkns
05/13/19 4:10:17 AM
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Why did Jon have to tell Sansa and Arya to begin with? Literally nothing good could come out of it. He really is an idiot but at least that went with how dumb his character has been for a few seasons now.

Jamie going back to Cersei is just terrible writing. Just bad.
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pegusus123456
05/13/19 4:21:31 AM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Why did Jon have to tell Sansa and Arya to begin with? Literally nothing good could come out of it. He really is an idiot but at least that went with how dumb his character has been for a few seasons now.

This one I at least understand. It's DA HONOR which is a failing he shares with his uh...uncle.
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Smashingpmkns
05/13/19 4:24:40 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
Why did Jon have to tell Sansa and Arya to begin with? Literally nothing good could come out of it. He really is an idiot but at least that went with how dumb his character has been for a few seasons now.

This one I at least understand. It's DA HONOR which is a failing he shares with his uh...uncle.


Wouldnt it be more honorable to obey your queen and your step dad's wishes by keeping that shit he died for a secret? Lol
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pegusus123456
05/13/19 4:29:01 AM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
pegusus123456 posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
Why did Jon have to tell Sansa and Arya to begin with? Literally nothing good could come out of it. He really is an idiot but at least that went with how dumb his character has been for a few seasons now.

This one I at least understand. It's DA HONOR which is a failing he shares with his uh...uncle.


Wouldnt it be more honorable to obey your queen and your step dad's wishes by keeping that shit he died for a secret? Lol

Well, that's the part this topic is asking about lol
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FL81
05/13/19 5:17:25 AM
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au_gold posted...
Arya trained in the arts of the Many Faced God, which means she can do literally anything.

Difference is, Arya is at least doing stuff. Jon hasnt done dick this entire season, unless you count his dragon fight with the Night King, during which he did nothing.

That's not even the worst of it

What has Bran done?
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Knowledge_King
05/13/19 9:41:06 AM
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Arya's pretty decent. She's literally caught in between ruthless assassin and actual little girl. That's why she's trying to sound badass and edgy. She kinda is, and is also trying hard to be.
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iPhone_7
05/13/19 9:44:55 AM
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Theyre family, he decided to tell them the truth. If some foreign whore that doesnt know her place cant accept that then she can take her dragon back across the narrow sea where she belongs. #DaKingInDaNorf
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gp1829
05/13/19 9:46:05 AM
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Where's Bronn been hiding?
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JBaLLEN66
05/13/19 9:47:16 AM
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DavidZ2844 posted...
So how did Arya gain these magical superhuman powers again? Her insane combat abilities and super speed that were supposed to believe she got while training in Braavos, which consisted of her just simply getting beat multiple times by sticks (absolutely nothing else was shown other than her winning only one stick duel while blind). Next, she was in a ridiculous chase scene where she got stabbed multiple times and should not have been able to parkour through the city like she did, then somehow beat the waif despite being severely injured, and after all that she leaves Braavos and all of a sudden now has these superhuman abilities she never had before?

Arya is the most ridiculous shit character in the entire show, she only serves as undeserved fan service that makes no sense whatsoever. She didnt earn any of her crazy god like abilities that she uses to defeat the most powerful supernatural entity in the show.


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De Evolution
05/13/19 9:48:38 AM
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JBaLLEN66 posted...
DavidZ2844 posted...
So how did Arya gain these magical superhuman powers again? Her insane combat abilities and super speed that were supposed to believe she got while training in Braavos, which consisted of her just simply getting beat multiple times by sticks (absolutely nothing else was shown other than her winning only one stick duel while blind). Next, she was in a ridiculous chase scene where she got stabbed multiple times and should not have been able to parkour through the city like she did, then somehow beat the waif despite being severely injured, and after all that she leaves Braavos and all of a sudden now has these superhuman abilities she never had before?

Arya is the most ridiculous shit character in the entire show, she only serves as undeserved fan service that makes no sense whatsoever. She didnt earn any of her crazy god like abilities that she uses to defeat the most powerful supernatural entity in the show.


God this

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JBaLLEN66
05/13/19 9:49:42 AM
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Knowledge_King posted...
Arya's pretty decent. She's literally caught in between ruthless assassin and actual little girl. That's why she's trying to sound badass and edgy. She kinda is, and is also trying hard to be.


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au_gold
05/13/19 6:58:05 PM
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FL81 posted...
au_gold posted...
Arya trained in the arts of the Many Faced God, which means she can do literally anything.

Difference is, Arya is at least doing stuff. Jon hasnt done dick this entire season, unless you count his dragon fight with the Night King, during which he did nothing.

That's not even the worst of it

What has Bran done?

He talked to Tyrion about his wheelchair.
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P4wn4g3
05/14/19 1:53:29 PM
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au_gold posted...
FL81 posted...
au_gold posted...
Arya trained in the arts of the Many Faced God, which means she can do literally anything.

Difference is, Arya is at least doing stuff. Jon hasnt done dick this entire season, unless you count his dragon fight with the Night King, during which he did nothing.

That's not even the worst of it

What has Bran done?

He talked to Tyrion about his wheelchair.

This conversation advanced their cavalry by decades, though since most of the cavalry died in the Dark Battle it's not a very visible win.
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au_gold
05/14/19 8:46:56 PM
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Jon wont even give Dany the D anymore. Hes as selfish as he is stupid.
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P4wn4g3
05/14/19 8:49:35 PM
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au_gold posted...
Jon wont even give Dany the D anymore. Hes as selfish as he is stupid.

It's because she's his queen. Not his queen with benefits.
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au_gold
05/14/19 8:53:01 PM
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She was his queen last season and he was still giving it to her on the reg.
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P4wn4g3
05/14/19 8:55:12 PM
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It wasn't official then though. She was his queen with benefits still because they didn't go tell everyone in the north that he gave her the North yet see
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au_gold
05/14/19 8:58:20 PM
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I thought Jon was having performance issues because of the incest.
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monsefuz
05/14/19 9:01:57 PM
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i bet jon snow is killing daenerys in the end
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P4wn4g3
05/14/19 9:08:03 PM
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au_gold posted...
I thought Jon was having performance issues because of the incest.

No he's into that.
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au_gold
05/14/19 9:20:37 PM
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I hope the show ends with Jon forced to sit on the throne because everyone he loves is dead and he knows that its all his fault.
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lilORANG
05/14/19 9:25:49 PM
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I feel like his very existence goes against what made the show fun in the first place, i.e. major characters getting killed off unexpectedly. He's been the obvious "main" character for a while now and keeps surviving due to PIS and plot armor. He should have been offed a while ago
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Sonixs
05/14/19 9:28:01 PM
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Endofall posted...
YookaLaylee posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
De Evolution posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
De Evolution posted...
Jon Snow has been dumbed down so much I don't even like him anymore.

I like zero of the characters at this point of season 8.

What a sad end to this show.

Arya?


Arya isn't even Arya anymore.

She's been a complete caricature arguably since season 6, and certainly since season 7.


How is she a caricature...and a caricature of what

All of her dialogue since she returned to Westeros is cringey Edge lord stuff. They try too hard to make her seem badass and it just comes across like shes an emo hot topic kid

Gendry: White walkers are like death. Trust me you dont want anything to do with them
Arya: I know death. It has many faces. I look forward to seeing this one!


OYABoHR


Is that Baelish?
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Srk700
05/14/19 9:37:27 PM
#48:


De Evolution posted...
Jon Snow has been dumbed down so much I don't even like him anymore.

I like zero of the characters at this point of season 8.

What a sad end to this show.


There's still a few characters I like. Tormund, Podrick, and Davos are still cool in my book, even though they've had plot armor (even though they aren't really relevant to the plot) in the Battle for Winterfel. I have no problems with Ghost and Drogon either.

I can't stand any of the main characters this season though.
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stoltenberg11
05/14/19 9:58:38 PM
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De Evolution posted...
JBaLLEN66 posted...
DavidZ2844 posted...
So how did Arya gain these magical superhuman powers again? Her insane combat abilities and super speed that were supposed to believe she got while training in Braavos, which consisted of her just simply getting beat multiple times by sticks (absolutely nothing else was shown other than her winning only one stick duel while blind). Next, she was in a ridiculous chase scene where she got stabbed multiple times and should not have been able to parkour through the city like she did, then somehow beat the waif despite being severely injured, and after all that she leaves Braavos and all of a sudden now has these superhuman abilities she never had before?

Arya is the most ridiculous shit character in the entire show, she only serves as undeserved fan service that makes no sense whatsoever. She didnt earn any of her crazy god like abilities that she uses to defeat the most powerful supernatural entity in the show.


God this

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au_gold
05/14/19 11:26:24 PM
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Actually, Jon might retreat to Winterfell and then get beheaded by Sansa for being a worthless bellend.
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