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CM_Ponch
05/13/19 7:05:16 PM
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and that they think a Snyder cut will fix Justice League
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AlisLandale
05/13/19 7:06:00 PM
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A Snyder cut will fix the inconsistent tone, but bring a whole bunch of other problems lol
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Skye Reynolds
05/13/19 7:08:11 PM
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Some people like dark things. I've seen at least two or three people who got the Joker's mouth tattoo from Suicide Squad on their hand. (No, seriously.)
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hollow_shrine
05/13/19 7:12:05 PM
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AlisLandale posted...
A Snyder cut will fix the inconsistent tone, but bring a whole bunch of other problems lol

Like..

He's got a clear cinematic vision and great attention to detail but there are other directors who can offer that and he's legitimately bad at script writing, plotting, characterization, theming, and editing, and he's at least inconsistent on action direction because it's hard to see what's happening in his action set pieces.
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Skye Reynolds
05/13/19 7:13:11 PM
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Just throw a CGI dog off a rooftop. People will say that he has a bleak vision and the resolve to do what other directors will not.
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RyuVegas
05/13/19 7:13:59 PM
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PIITB415 posted...
When his daughter committed suicide people said it was because he didn't write her "character" well and decide to wrote her off.

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CM_Ponch
05/13/19 7:28:57 PM
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PIITB415 posted...
When his daughter committed suicide people said it was because he didn't write her "character" well and decide to wrote her off.

Fuck
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Reis
05/13/19 7:29:56 PM
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i hear @Zodd3224 is a huge fan of his work
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Gobstoppers12
05/13/19 7:33:18 PM
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hollow_shrine posted...
it's hard to see what's happening in his action set pieces.

Of all the complaints I've heard about Zack Snyder, I've literally never heard this before.
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Dark_Garioshi
05/13/19 7:34:42 PM
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He made Watchmen, and Watchmen was good.
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ACHEEKSMALLOY
05/13/19 7:39:22 PM
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Dark_Garioshi posted...
He made Watchmen, and Watchmen was good.

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Zodd3224
05/13/19 7:47:09 PM
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hollow_shrine
05/13/19 9:33:57 PM
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Dark_Garioshi posted...
He made Watchmen, and Watchmen was good.

No it wasn't. He adapted many of the panels directly from the book, which deserves legit props, but it doesn't pick up on any of the themes the book is angling for, or the fact that the book is extremely critical of the Randian politics inherent in super hero narratives to such a degree that it's explicitly blaming the shittiness of its setting on the concept of the superhero. By proxy that criticism extends to us as a reader and 20th century pop culture taking on the superheroic ubermench like Batman or Superman and mythologizing them as kinds of ideals, despite the fact that their key aspects of the these characters and their methods are explicitly anti-freedom. And yes, 'death of the author' and all that, but we really can't ignore the political climate in which Moore is writing these books.

TLDR: Snyder's surface reading of the text was so shallow he managed to reach the polar opposite thematic conclusions of the original text, which is tragic because no one who watches that movie will understand why it shows up on so many 20th century GoAT literary lists. And it's not a good enough movie to encourage them to read the graphic novel.
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Zodd3224
05/13/19 9:54:06 PM
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The Watchmen comic is one of the best books of all time. Written or drawn. Actually made it into Time Magazine top 100 books of all time. The only graphic novel to do so.

The Watchmen movie is a mediocre edgy action movie that is only watchable because of Jackie Earle Haley and Jeffrey Dean Morgan.
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Delirious_Beard
05/13/19 9:56:56 PM
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absolutely insane to me that there are people that still defend man of steel and BvS
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Zodd3224
05/13/19 10:00:13 PM
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Delirious_Beard posted...
absolutely insane to me that there are people that still defend man of steel and BvS


Man of Steel blows but I can at least watch it.

BvS is one of the worst movies I've ever seen. I watched it once and you couldn't pay me to watch it again.
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Knowledge_King
05/14/19 9:57:52 AM
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BvS is good and Watchmen is great. Makes sense to me.
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Veggeta X
05/14/19 10:08:36 AM
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Yall gonna post ITT acting like 300 wasn't epic as fuck?
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hollow_shrine
05/14/19 10:21:06 AM
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Veggeta X posted...
Yall gonna post ITT acting like 300 wasn't epic as fuck?
The most sexually confused movie I've ever seen. I can't tell you how many sessions I had staring at Leonidas bare ass as he looks out over Sparta. Gerry Butler in this movie is partially responsible for my sexual awakening and for that Snyder will always get my props. Thing is I don't think Snyder or Miller are aware of the inherent homoeroticism of its subject matter. There are some lines in the script which suggest they are not entirely aware of what they're doing. More for us, I guess. Fun fact, the men who carried Billy Porter into the 2019 Met Gala were wearing outfits inspired by Xerxes character design from this movie and that spectacle was everything.

Back on topic. 300 is his best work IMO, but that's primarily because the source material and Snyder's vision seem to draw inspiration from very similar places (for better or worse). The result is a movie that is totally on point always, and that lets you focus all your attention on Snyder's very pretty cinematography. 300 was an excellent choice for him.
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Gobstoppers12
05/14/19 11:04:08 AM
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Knowledge_King posted...
BvS is good and Watchmen is great. Makes sense to me.

BvS (ultimate edition) is like my second favorite comic book movie of all time behind Infinity War.
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Pancake
05/14/19 11:05:08 AM
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i thought this was a baseball pitcher until i clicked in. i think i'm conflating a couple of them.
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