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Coastal_elite 05/14/19 11:19:00 AM #52:	ThyCorndog posted... Coastal_elite posted... ThyCorndog posted... Bernie > Tulsi > Warren > (minor power gap) > Yang > (huge power gap) > the rest aka neoliberals honestly if one of the neolibs gets nominated I'm staying home See what I am saying, smashingpmkns? these people with ideological purity tests would rather have a "blood and soil" president rather than voting for a democrat that won't give them their free gibs Nope, you can fuck off with your implications. I probably have a better job than you and don't care about "free gibs". I believe the president should be out for his people and not for corporations. I think we should invest at home and not at bombing countries cause we don't like their leaders. You just care about removing trump, whereas to me it's just as important with who we replace him with choice 1: a president out for the corporations, who pretends to be for his/her people choice 2: a president out for the corporations, white supremacist groups, global dictators, and his oligarch buddies You'll enable choice 2 because choice 1 is not good enough? Yeah, very wise. Also: > you care as much about removing 45 as about who he gets replaced with > so you won't vote him out and let him win again much care.wow! <cite>Coastal_elite posted [p:921877937] in My girl Tu... [t:77714226]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Coastal_elite posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>Bernie > Tulsi > Warren > (minor power gap) > Yang > (huge power gap) > the rest aka neoliberals honestly if one of the neolibs gets nominated I'm staying home</quote> See what I am saying, smashingpmkns? these people with ideological purity tests would rather have a "blood and soil" president rather than voting for a democrat that won't give them their free gibs</quote> Nope, you can fuck off with your implications. I probably have a better job than you and don't care about "free gibs". I believe the president should be out for his people and not for corporations. I think we should invest at home and not at bombing countries cause we don't like their leaders. You just care about removing trump, whereas to me it's just as important with who we replace him with</quote> choice 1: a president out for the corporations, who pretends to be for his/her people choice 2: a president out for the corporations, white supremacist groups, global dictators, and his oligarch buddies You'll enable choice 2 because choice 1 is not good enough? Yeah, very wise. Also: > you care as much about removing 45 as about who he gets replaced with > so you won't vote him out and let him win again much care.wow!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 05/14/19 11:20:43 AM #53:	Coastal_elite posted... ThyCorndog posted... Coastal_elite posted... ThyCorndog posted... Bernie > Tulsi > Warren > (minor power gap) > Yang > (huge power gap) > the rest aka neoliberals honestly if one of the neolibs gets nominated I'm staying home See what I am saying, smashingpmkns? these people with ideological purity tests would rather have a "blood and soil" president rather than voting for a democrat that won't give them their free gibs Nope, you can fuck off with your implications. I probably have a better job than you and don't care about "free gibs". I believe the president should be out for his people and not for corporations. I think we should invest at home and not at bombing countries cause we don't like their leaders. You just care about removing trump, whereas to me it's just as important with who we replace him with choice 1: a president out for the corporations, who pretends to be for his/her people choice 2: a president out for the corporations, white supremacist groups, global dictators, and his oligarch buddies You'll enable choice 2 because choice 1 is not good enough? Yeah, very wise. Also: > you care as much about removing 45 as about who he gets replaced with > so you won't vote him out and let him win again much care.wow! if you don't resist the parts of your party that you don't like then they'll always remain in power. trump is temporary, even if he wins again. the neoliberal control of the democratic party can remain there indefinitely if you let them. simple as that. I'm thinking longer term than just one or two presidencies --- https://imgur.com/6cPXvLN <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:921877998] in My girl Tu... [t:77714226]...</cite> <quote><cite>Coastal_elite posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Coastal_elite posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>Bernie > Tulsi > Warren > (minor power gap) > Yang > (huge power gap) > the rest aka neoliberals honestly if one of the neolibs gets nominated I'm staying home</quote> See what I am saying, smashingpmkns? these people with ideological purity tests would rather have a "blood and soil" president rather than voting for a democrat that won't give them their free gibs</quote> Nope, you can fuck off with your implications. I probably have a better job than you and don't care about "free gibs". I believe the president should be out for his people and not for corporations. I think we should invest at home and not at bombing countries cause we don't like their leaders. You just care about removing trump, whereas to me it's just as important with who we replace him with</quote> choice 1: a president out for the corporations, who pretends to be for his/her people choice 2: a president out for the corporations, white supremacist groups, global dictators, and his oligarch buddies You'll enable choice 2 because choice 1 is not good enough? Yeah, very wise. Also: > you care as much about removing 45 as about who he gets replaced with > so you won't vote him out and let him win again much care.wow!</quote> if you don't resist the parts of your party that you don't like then they'll always remain in power. trump is temporary, even if he wins again. the neoliberal control of the democratic party can remain there indefinitely if you let them. simple as that. I'm thinking longer term than just one or two presidencies</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 05/14/19 11:23:03 AM #54:	ThyCorndog posted... Doom_Art posted... King_Hellebuyck posted... You want to continue the shitty ass interventionist policies and world policing? I don't like supporting dictators, so Gabbard isn't the candidate for me Biden and the other neoliberals would continue supporting the 70 something % of dictators we already do. Theres no difference between trump and the neoliberals on foreign policy. Gabbard wants to stop intervening in regime change wars. That's not supporting dictators, that's us not being world police. Remember when liberals were against Bush for his regime change wars? What happened?I actually legit think we should leave Syria alone. That doesn't mean I support Assad Exactly. Not wanting to replace one dictator with another one doesnt mean we like these dictators. It means we dont need to waste money and innocent lives and destroy entire countries in order to gain nothing. It means I dont want to see innocent children bombed while their friends are radicalized against the country who bombed them. Were destroying lives, countries, and the environment while creating more terrorism and for what? --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:921878066] in My girl Tu... [t:77714226]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote>You want to continue the shitty ass interventionist policies and world policing? </quote> I don't like supporting dictators, so Gabbard isn't the candidate for me</quote> Biden and the other neoliberals would continue supporting the 70 something % of dictators we already do. Theres no difference between trump and the neoliberals on foreign policy. Gabbard wants to stop intervening in regime change wars. That's not supporting dictators, that's us not being world police. Remember when liberals were against Bush for his regime change wars? What happened?I actually legit think we should leave Syria alone. That doesn't mean I support Assad</quote> Exactly. Not wanting to replace one dictator with another one doesnt mean we like these dictators. It means we dont need to waste money and innocent lives and destroy entire countries in order to gain nothing. It means I dont want to see innocent children bombed while their friends are radicalized against the country who bombed them. Were destroying lives, countries, and the environment while creating more terrorism and for what?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coastal_elite 05/14/19 11:24:54 AM #55:	ThyCorndog posted... Coastal_elite posted... ThyCorndog posted... Coastal_elite posted... ThyCorndog posted... Bernie > Tulsi > Warren > (minor power gap) > Yang > (huge power gap) > the rest aka neoliberals honestly if one of the neolibs gets nominated I'm staying home See what I am saying, smashingpmkns? these people with ideological purity tests would rather have a "blood and soil" president rather than voting for a democrat that won't give them their free gibs Nope, you can fuck off with your implications. I probably have a better job than you and don't care about "free gibs". I believe the president should be out for his people and not for corporations. I think we should invest at home and not at bombing countries cause we don't like their leaders. You just care about removing trump, whereas to me it's just as important with who we replace him with choice 1: a president out for the corporations, who pretends to be for his/her people choice 2: a president out for the corporations, white supremacist groups, global dictators, and his oligarch buddies You'll enable choice 2 because choice 1 is not good enough? Yeah, very wise. Also: > you care as much about removing 45 as about who he gets replaced with > so you won't vote him out and let him win again much care.wow! if you don't resist the parts of your party that you don't like then they'll always remain in power. trump is temporary, even if he wins again. the neoliberal control of the democratic party can remain there indefinitely if you let them. simple as that. I'm thinking longer term than just one or two presidencies Yeah! what's 6 more years of stuffing the federal courts and scotus with alt right judges? What's the damage in going vs a woman's right to choose? what's the damage on passing "religious liberty" laws that enable alt right people to deny life saving medical service to LGBTQ and minorities? What's 6 more years of babies snatched from their mothers never to see them again? I guess the stuff in the paragraph above doesn't affect YOU, but you gotta think about others too <cite>Coastal_elite posted [p:921878116] in My girl Tu... [t:77714226]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Coastal_elite posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Coastal_elite posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>Bernie > Tulsi > Warren > (minor power gap) > Yang > (huge power gap) > the rest aka neoliberals honestly if one of the neolibs gets nominated I'm staying home</quote> See what I am saying, smashingpmkns? these people with ideological purity tests would rather have a "blood and soil" president rather than voting for a democrat that won't give them their free gibs</quote> Nope, you can fuck off with your implications. I probably have a better job than you and don't care about "free gibs". I believe the president should be out for his people and not for corporations. I think we should invest at home and not at bombing countries cause we don't like their leaders. You just care about removing trump, whereas to me it's just as important with who we replace him with</quote> choice 1: a president out for the corporations, who pretends to be for his/her people choice 2: a president out for the corporations, white supremacist groups, global dictators, and his oligarch buddies You'll enable choice 2 because choice 1 is not good enough? Yeah, very wise. Also: > you care as much about removing 45 as about who he gets replaced with > so you won't vote him out and let him win again much care.wow!</quote> if you don't resist the parts of your party that you don't like then they'll always remain in power. trump is temporary, even if he wins again. the neoliberal control of the democratic party can remain there indefinitely if you let them. simple as that. I'm thinking longer term than just one or two presidencies</quote> Yeah! what's 6 more years of stuffing the federal courts and scotus with alt right judges? What's the damage in going vs a woman's right to choose? what's the damage on passing "religious liberty" laws that enable alt right people to deny life saving medical service to LGBTQ and minorities? What's 6 more years of babies snatched from their mothers never to see them again? I guess the stuff in the paragraph above doesn't affect YOU, but you gotta think about others too</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 05/14/19 11:25:25 AM #56:	King_Hellebuyck posted... ThyCorndog posted... Doom_Art posted... King_Hellebuyck posted... You want to continue the shitty ass interventionist policies and world policing? I don't like supporting dictators, so Gabbard isn't the candidate for me Biden and the other neoliberals would continue supporting the 70 something % of dictators we already do. Theres no difference between trump and the neoliberals on foreign policy. Gabbard wants to stop intervening in regime change wars. That's not supporting dictators, that's us not being world police. Remember when liberals were against Bush for his regime change wars? What happened?I actually legit think we should leave Syria alone. That doesn't mean I support Assad Exactly. Not wanting to replace one dictator with another one doesnt mean we like these dictators. It means we dont need to waste money and innocent lives and destroy entire countries in order to gain nothing. It means I dont want to see innocent children bombed while their friends are radicalized against the country who bombed them. Were destroying lives, countries, and the environment while creating more terrorism and for what? because these people don't give a shit and just hear trump saying stupid shit and think that's the most important thing in the world. we've caused immeasurable amounts of suffering across the world with regime change wars for no reason except geopolitical strategic reasons. our foreign policy is literally evil --- https://imgur.com/6cPXvLN <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:921878131] in My girl Tu... [t:77714226]...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote>You want to continue the shitty ass interventionist policies and world policing? </quote> I don't like supporting dictators, so Gabbard isn't the candidate for me</quote> Biden and the other neoliberals would continue supporting the 70 something % of dictators we already do. Theres no difference between trump and the neoliberals on foreign policy. Gabbard wants to stop intervening in regime change wars. That's not supporting dictators, that's us not being world police. Remember when liberals were against Bush for his regime change wars? What happened?I actually legit think we should leave Syria alone. That doesn't mean I support Assad</quote> Exactly. Not wanting to replace one dictator with another one doesnt mean we like these dictators. It means we dont need to waste money and innocent lives and destroy entire countries in order to gain nothing. It means I dont want to see innocent children bombed while their friends are radicalized against the country who bombed them. Were destroying lives, countries, and the environment while creating more terrorism and for what?</quote> because these people don't give a shit and just hear trump saying stupid shit and think that's the most important thing in the world. we've caused immeasurable amounts of suffering across the world with regime change wars for no reason except geopolitical strategic reasons. our foreign policy is literally evil</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 05/14/19 11:27:43 AM #57:	ThyCorndog posted... Coastal_elite posted... ThyCorndog posted... Coastal_elite posted... ThyCorndog posted... Bernie > Tulsi > Warren > (minor power gap) > Yang > (huge power gap) > the rest aka neoliberals honestly if one of the neolibs gets nominated I'm staying home See what I am saying, smashingpmkns? these people with ideological purity tests would rather have a "blood and soil" president rather than voting for a democrat that won't give them their free gibs Nope, you can fuck off with your implications. I probably have a better job than you and don't care about "free gibs". I believe the president should be out for his people and not for corporations. I think we should invest at home and not at bombing countries cause we don't like their leaders. You just care about removing trump, whereas to me it's just as important with who we replace him with choice 1: a president out for the corporations, who pretends to be for his/her people choice 2: a president out for the corporations, white supremacist groups, global dictators, and his oligarch buddies You'll enable choice 2 because choice 1 is not good enough? Yeah, very wise. Also: > you care as much about removing 45 as about who he gets replaced with > so you won't vote him out and let him win again much care.wow! if you don't resist the parts of your party that you don't like then they'll always remain in power. trump is temporary, even if he wins again. the neoliberal control of the democratic party can remain there indefinitely if you let them. simple as that. I'm thinking longer term than just one or two presidencies You're not thinking long term tbh. I like your passion for it but 4 more years of any president is enough to put a damper in your plans. --- Clean Butt Crew <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:921878217] in My girl Tu... [t:77714226]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Coastal_elite posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Coastal_elite posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote> Bernie > Tulsi > Warren > (minor power gap) > Yang > (huge power gap) > the rest aka neoliberals honestly if one of the neolibs gets nominated I'm staying home </quote> See what I am saying, smashingpmkns? these people with ideological purity tests would rather have a "blood and soil" president rather than voting for a democrat that won't give them their free gibs </quote> Nope, you can fuck off with your implications. I probably have a better job than you and don't care about "free gibs". I believe the president should be out for his people and not for corporations. I think we should invest at home and not at bombing countries cause we don't like their leaders. You just care about removing trump, whereas to me it's just as important with who we replace him with </quote> choice 1: a president out for the corporations, who pretends to be for his/her people choice 2: a president out for the corporations, white supremacist groups, global dictators, and his oligarch buddies You'll enable choice 2 because choice 1 is not good enough? Yeah, very wise. Also: > you care as much about removing 45 as about who he gets replaced with > so you won't vote him out and let him win again much care.wow!</quote> if you don't resist the parts of your party that you don't like then they'll always remain in power. trump is temporary, even if he wins again. the neoliberal control of the democratic party can remain there indefinitely if you let them. simple as that. I'm thinking longer term than just one or two presidencies</quote> You're not thinking long term tbh. I like your passion for it but 4 more years of any president is enough to put a damper in your plans.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 05/14/19 11:29:35 AM #58:	electing a neoliberal president will do more damage to the social democrat side of the democratic party than trump's presidency ever could. it's because of trump getting elected that it's grown so much in the first place. bringing a neoliberal back into the picture as president will make everyone think it's just a phase --- https://imgur.com/6cPXvLN <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:921878286] in My girl Tu... [t:77714226]...</cite> <quote>electing a neoliberal president will do more damage to the social democrat side of the democratic party than trump's presidency ever could. it's because of trump getting elected that it's grown so much in the first place. bringing a neoliberal back into the picture as president will make everyone think it's just a phase</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coastal_elite 05/14/19 11:30:33 AM #59:	ThyCorndog posted... electing a neoliberal president will do more damage to the social democrat side of the democratic party than trump's presidency ever could. it's because of trump getting elected that it's grown so much in the first place. bringing a neoliberal back into the picture as president will make everyone think it's just a phase it's all about YOU YOU YOU, huh? <cite>Coastal_elite posted [p:921878320] in My girl Tu... [t:77714226]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>electing a neoliberal president will do more damage to the social democrat side of the democratic party than trump's presidency ever could. it's because of trump getting elected that it's grown so much in the first place. bringing a neoliberal back into the picture as president will make everyone think it's just a phase</quote> it's all about YOU YOU YOU, huh?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 05/14/19 11:31:33 AM #60:	Coastal_elite posted... ThyCorndog posted... electing a neoliberal president will do more damage to the social democrat side of the democratic party than trump's presidency ever could. it's because of trump getting elected that it's grown so much in the first place. bringing a neoliberal back into the picture as president will make everyone think it's just a phase it's all about YOU YOU YOU, huh? if you're trying to make it seem like I don't care about people, I can make you seem like you don't care about people too. why do you support the genocide in yemen? biden and the other chumps would continue helping saudi arabia kill innocents there --- https://imgur.com/6cPXvLN <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:921878369] in My girl Tu... [t:77714226]...</cite> <quote><cite>Coastal_elite posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>electing a neoliberal president will do more damage to the social democrat side of the democratic party than trump's presidency ever could. it's because of trump getting elected that it's grown so much in the first place. bringing a neoliberal back into the picture as president will make everyone think it's just a phase</quote> it's all about YOU YOU YOU, huh?</quote> if you're trying to make it seem like I don't care about people, I can make you seem like you don't care about people too. why do you support the genocide in yemen? biden and the other chumps would continue helping saudi arabia kill innocents there</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coastal_elite 05/14/19 11:33:05 AM #61:	ThyCorndog posted... if you're trying to make it seem like I don't care about people, I can make you seem like you don't care about people too. why do you support the genocide in yemen? biden and the other chumps would continue helping saudi arabia kill innocents there It's about this: what's 6 more years of stuffing the federal courts and scotus with alt right judges? What's the damage in going vs a woman's right to choose? what's the damage on passing "religious liberty" laws that enable alt right people to deny life saving medical service to LGBTQ and minorities? What's 6 more years of babies snatched from their mothers never to see them again? <cite>Coastal_elite posted [p:921878419] in My girl Tu... [t:77714226]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote> if you're trying to make it seem like I don't care about people, I can make you seem like you don't care about people too. why do you support the genocide in yemen? biden and the other chumps would continue helping saudi arabia kill innocents there</quote> It's about this: <quote> what's 6 more years of stuffing the federal courts and scotus with alt right judges? What's the damage in going vs a woman's right to choose? what's the damage on passing "religious liberty" laws that enable alt right people to deny life saving medical service to LGBTQ and minorities? What's 6 more years of babies snatched from their mothers never to see them again? </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 05/14/19 11:34:16 AM #62:	so then support bernie/tulsi and you'll get what we both want both at home and at the world at large --- https://imgur.com/6cPXvLN <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:921878476] in My girl Tu... [t:77714226]...</cite> <quote>so then support bernie/tulsi and you'll get what we both want both at home and at the world at large</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Coastal_elite 05/14/19 11:36:32 AM #64:	ThyCorndog posted... so then support bernie/tulsi and you'll get what we both want both at home and at the world at large If Bernie wins, I will vote for him, EASY. If Tulsi won (HAHAHAHAHA fat chance, but I will play along), I will vote for her even though she is basically a republican with a dash of hindu supremacy, simply because she is not as bad as 45. But if Biden wins, will you vote for him? <cite>Coastal_elite posted [p:921878561] in My girl Tu... [t:77714226]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>so then support bernie/tulsi and you'll get what we both want both at home and at the world at large</quote> If Bernie wins, I will vote for him, EASY. If Tulsi won (HAHAHAHAHA fat chance, but I will play along), I will vote for her even though she is basically a republican with a dash of hindu supremacy, simply because she is not as bad as 45. But if Biden wins, will you vote for him?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 05/14/19 11:36:34 AM #65:	progressives are literally running right now with good amounts of support from the people yeah but can we just do it next time? --- https://imgur.com/6cPXvLN <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:921878562] in My girl Tu... [t:77714226]...</cite> <quote>progressives are literally running right now with good amounts of support from the people yeah but can we just do it next time?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 05/14/19 11:37:49 AM #66:	Coastal_elite posted... ThyCorndog posted... so then support bernie/tulsi and you'll get what we both want both at home and at the world at large If Bernie wins, I will vote for him, EASY. If Tulsi won (HAHAHAHAHA fat chance, but I will play along), I will vote for her even though she is basically a republican with a dash of hindu supremacy, simply because she is not as bad as 45. But if Biden wins, will you vote for him? nope, can't be assed. then again I live in a solidly blue state (NY) so it won't affect the election. it'll just make me feel gross like I did when I voted for hillary after she did bernie dirty. it still bothers me that I did that --- https://imgur.com/6cPXvLN <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:921878608] in My girl Tu... [t:77714226]...</cite> <quote><cite>Coastal_elite posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>so then support bernie/tulsi and you'll get what we both want both at home and at the world at large</quote> If Bernie wins, I will vote for him, EASY. If Tulsi won (HAHAHAHAHA fat chance, but I will play along), I will vote for her even though she is basically a republican with a dash of hindu supremacy, simply because she is not as bad as 45. But if Biden wins, will you vote for him?</quote> nope, can't be assed. then again I live in a solidly blue state (NY) so it won't affect the election. it'll just make me feel gross like I did when I voted for hillary after she did bernie dirty. it still bothers me that I did that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Coastal_elite 05/14/19 11:38:52 AM #68:	ThyCorndog posted... Coastal_elite posted... ThyCorndog posted... so then support bernie/tulsi and you'll get what we both want both at home and at the world at large If Bernie wins, I will vote for him, EASY. If Tulsi won (HAHAHAHAHA fat chance, but I will play along), I will vote for her even though she is basically a republican with a dash of hindu supremacy, simply because she is not as bad as 45. But if Biden wins, will you vote for him? nope, can't be assed. then again I live in a solidly blue state (NY) so it won't affect the election. it'll just make me feel gross like I did when I voted for hillary after she did bernie dirty. it still bothers me that I did that See the difference between you and me now? It means you simply don't care about this: what's 6 more years of stuffing the federal courts and scotus with alt right judges? What's the damage in going vs a woman's right to choose? what's the damage on passing "religious liberty" laws that enable alt right people to deny life saving medical service to LGBTQ and minorities? What's 6 more years of babies snatched from their mothers never to see them again? <cite>Coastal_elite posted [p:921878656] in My girl Tu... [t:77714226]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Coastal_elite posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>so then support bernie/tulsi and you'll get what we both want both at home and at the world at large</quote> If Bernie wins, I will vote for him, EASY. If Tulsi won (HAHAHAHAHA fat chance, but I will play along), I will vote for her even though she is basically a republican with a dash of hindu supremacy, simply because she is not as bad as 45. But if Biden wins, will you vote for him?</quote> nope, can't be assed. then again I live in a solidly blue state (NY) so it won't affect the election. it'll just make me feel gross like I did when I voted for hillary after she did bernie dirty. it still bothers me that I did that</quote> See the difference between you and me now? It means you simply don't care about this: <quote> what's 6 more years of stuffing the federal courts and scotus with alt right judges? What's the damage in going vs a woman's right to choose? what's the damage on passing "religious liberty" laws that enable alt right people to deny life saving medical service to LGBTQ and minorities? What's 6 more years of babies snatched from their mothers never to see them again? </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 05/14/19 11:41:50 AM #69:	I care. I just don't believe in temporary measures. the more trump is allowed to be the malicious idiot that he is, the more it strengthens progressives in the long term. it's something we can look back at and point to as something we don't ever want to return to again. if we don't get a progressive president now, then we'll get one after his second term. there was an unprecedented surge of progressive candidates and ideas in response to trump's victory in the election --- https://imgur.com/6cPXvLN <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:921878766] in My girl Tu... [t:77714226]...</cite> <quote>I care. I just don't believe in temporary measures. the more trump is allowed to be the malicious idiot that he is, the more it strengthens progressives in the long term. it's something we can look back at and point to as something we don't ever want to return to again. if we don't get a progressive president now, then we'll get one after his second term. there was an unprecedented surge of progressive candidates and ideas in response to trump's victory in the election</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheMikh 05/14/19 11:44:19 AM #71:	shockthemonkey posted... I dont understand this if we don't elect a progressive now then we never can mindset. it seems to be the hallmark of electoral politics in general - get everyone riled up as though this is the "ultimate election" where if the opposition wins, everything goes to ** i observed the same kind of rhetoric from both the left and right in both 2016 and 2018 before then i wasn't really paying attention but i wouldn't be surprised if this was also the case --- https://imgur.com/A0TAfek <cite>TheMikh posted [p:921878860] in My girl Tu... [t:77714226]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>I dont understand this if we don't elect a progressive now then we never can mindset.</quote> it seems to be the hallmark of electoral politics in general - get everyone riled up as though this is the "ultimate election" where if the opposition wins, everything goes to ** i observed the same kind of rhetoric from both the left and right in both 2016 and 2018 before then i wasn't really paying attention but i wouldn't be surprised if this was also the case</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThyCorndog 05/14/19 11:47:20 AM #73:	shockthemonkey posted... ThyCorndog posted... I care. I just don't believe in temporary measures. the more trump is allowed to be the malicious idiot that he is, the more it strengthens progressives in the long term. it's something we can look back at and point to as something we don't ever want to return to again. if we don't get a progressive president now, then we'll get one after his second term. there was an unprecedented surge of progressive candidates and ideas in response to trump's victory in the election Do you think all the progressives will disappear if a neoliberal candidate wins or something? What is your plan if progressivism isnt popular enough to win? i'll keep supporting who I want to support. I'll probably keep believing in what I believe in. or maybe I'll end up having a different set of beliefs politically by then. it's possible I end up giving up like some of you and towing the party line. or maybe I just fuck off out of politics entirely. it's hard to really tell you what I'll do years down the line so I'm not sure what you're fishing for --- https://imgur.com/6cPXvLN <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:921878995] in My girl Tu... [t:77714226]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>I care. I just don't believe in temporary measures. the more trump is allowed to be the malicious idiot that he is, the more it strengthens progressives in the long term. it's something we can look back at and point to as something we don't ever want to return to again. if we don't get a progressive president now, then we'll get one after his second term. there was an unprecedented surge of progressive candidates and ideas in response to trump's victory in the election</quote> Do you think all the progressives will disappear if a neoliberal candidate wins or something? What is your plan if progressivism isnt popular enough to win?</quote> i'll keep supporting who I want to support. I'll probably keep believing in what I believe in. or maybe I'll end up having a different set of beliefs politically by then. it's possible I end up giving up like some of you and towing the party line. or maybe I just fuck off out of politics entirely. it's hard to really tell you what I'll do years down the line so I'm not sure what you're fishing for</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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-rilo- 05/14/19 11:55:33 AM #75:	Tulsi is growing on me because of her anti-war talk, but her anti-gay past and she had ties to far right Hindu nationalists apparently which also is spooky. She has good policy if she really did 180 from her past. She is so strong on being anti intervention and that's something we need right now with the US trying to start wars all over. If she won the nom, I'd gladly vote for her, but I can trust Sanders more so he'll get my primary vote. --- http://myanimelist.net/profile/rilo https://imgur.com/pEifvti <cite>-rilo- posted [p:921879340] in My girl Tu... [t:77714226]...</cite> <quote>Tulsi is growing on me because of her anti-war talk, but her anti-gay past and she had ties to far right Hindu nationalists apparently which also is spooky. She has good policy if she really did 180 from her past. She is so strong on being anti intervention and that's something we need right now with the US trying to start wars all over. If she won the nom, I'd gladly vote for her, but I can trust Sanders more so he'll get my primary vote.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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-rilo- 05/14/19 11:59:49 AM #77:	shockthemonkey posted... ThyCorndog posted... shockthemonkey posted... ThyCorndog posted... I care. I just don't believe in temporary measures. the more trump is allowed to be the malicious idiot that he is, the more it strengthens progressives in the long term. it's something we can look back at and point to as something we don't ever want to return to again. if we don't get a progressive president now, then we'll get one after his second term. there was an unprecedented surge of progressive candidates and ideas in response to trump's victory in the election Do you think all the progressives will disappear if a neoliberal candidate wins or something? What is your plan if progressivism isnt popular enough to win? i'll keep supporting who I want to support. I'll probably keep believing in what I believe in. or maybe I'll end up having a different set of beliefs politically by then. it's possible I end up giving up like some of you and towing the party line. or maybe I just fuck off out of politics entirely. it's hard to really tell you what I'll do years down the line so I'm not sure what you're fishing for Who is towing the party line by voting for the best candidate in the race? Im trying to figure out why your plan is entirely we need a progressive to win this election as if there is nothing else. more neoliberalism won't change any of the underlying issues the country has, when our main problem is neoliberalism. though Tulsi isn't basically a republican, she is pretty solidly on the progressive end. Biden and most center-right dems are, though. --- http://myanimelist.net/profile/rilo https://imgur.com/pEifvti <cite>-rilo- posted [p:921879510] in My girl Tu... [t:77714226]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>I care. I just don't believe in temporary measures. the more trump is allowed to be the malicious idiot that he is, the more it strengthens progressives in the long term. it's something we can look back at and point to as something we don't ever want to return to again. if we don't get a progressive president now, then we'll get one after his second term. there was an unprecedented surge of progressive candidates and ideas in response to trump's victory in the election</quote> Do you think all the progressives will disappear if a neoliberal candidate wins or something? What is your plan if progressivism isnt popular enough to win?</quote> i'll keep supporting who I want to support. I'll probably keep believing in what I believe in. or maybe I'll end up having a different set of beliefs politically by then. it's possible I end up giving up like some of you and towing the party line. or maybe I just fuck off out of politics entirely. it's hard to really tell you what I'll do years down the line so I'm not sure what you're fishing for</quote> Who is towing the party line by voting for the best candidate in the race? Im trying to figure out why your plan is entirely we need a progressive to win this election as if there is nothing else.</quote> more neoliberalism won't change any of the underlying issues the country has, when our main problem is neoliberalism. though Tulsi isn't basically a republican, she is pretty solidly on the progressive end. Biden and most center-right dems are, though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 05/14/19 12:01:01 PM #78:	@RoadsterUFO posted... @ThyCorndog How in the hell is Tulsi basically a Republican? She supports the following: - Universal healthcare - A mandated higher wage - Higher taxes - Universal College Education - Gun control - Mandated paid maternity leave wrong person. I didn't say that. coastal elite did --- https://imgur.com/6cPXvLN <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:921879558] in My girl Tu... [t:77714226]...</cite> <quote><cite>@RoadsterUFO posted...</cite> <quote>@ThyCorndog How in the hell is Tulsi basically a Republican? She supports the following: - Universal healthcare - A mandated higher wage - Higher taxes - Universal College Education - Gun control - Mandated paid maternity leave</quote> wrong person. I didn't say that. coastal elite did</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 05/14/19 12:02:02 PM #79:	Nobody knows dog dick about who or what is electable. Vote for the candidate who you like best, not who you think is most palatable to Michiganders you've never met. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:921879605] in My girl Tu... [t:77714226]...</cite> <quote>Nobody knows dog dick about who or what is electable. Vote for the candidate who you like best, not who you think is most palatable to Michiganders you've never met.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 05/14/19 12:03:50 PM #80:	shockthemonkey posted... ThyCorndog posted... shockthemonkey posted... ThyCorndog posted... I care. I just don't believe in temporary measures. the more trump is allowed to be the malicious idiot that he is, the more it strengthens progressives in the long term. it's something we can look back at and point to as something we don't ever want to return to again. if we don't get a progressive president now, then we'll get one after his second term. there was an unprecedented surge of progressive candidates and ideas in response to trump's victory in the election Do you think all the progressives will disappear if a neoliberal candidate wins or something? What is your plan if progressivism isnt popular enough to win? i'll keep supporting who I want to support. I'll probably keep believing in what I believe in. or maybe I'll end up having a different set of beliefs politically by then. it's possible I end up giving up like some of you and towing the party line. or maybe I just fuck off out of politics entirely. it's hard to really tell you what I'll do years down the line so I'm not sure what you're fishing for Who is towing the party line by voting for the best candidate in the race? Im trying to figure out why your plan is entirely we need a progressive to win this election as if there is nothing else. both the neoliberals and neoconservatives operate from under the same underlying principles and framework, like -rilo- said. electing neoliberals is just going to keep things the way they are indefinitely. change only comes from "radical" candidates instead of the ones that want to continue using the same sets of policies that exist right now. I don't want to be a part of that --- https://imgur.com/6cPXvLN <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:921879667] in My girl Tu... [t:77714226]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>I care. I just don't believe in temporary measures. the more trump is allowed to be the malicious idiot that he is, the more it strengthens progressives in the long term. it's something we can look back at and point to as something we don't ever want to return to again. if we don't get a progressive president now, then we'll get one after his second term. there was an unprecedented surge of progressive candidates and ideas in response to trump's victory in the election</quote> Do you think all the progressives will disappear if a neoliberal candidate wins or something? What is your plan if progressivism isnt popular enough to win?</quote> i'll keep supporting who I want to support. I'll probably keep believing in what I believe in. or maybe I'll end up having a different set of beliefs politically by then. it's possible I end up giving up like some of you and towing the party line. or maybe I just fuck off out of politics entirely. it's hard to really tell you what I'll do years down the line so I'm not sure what you're fishing for</quote> Who is towing the party line by voting for the best candidate in the race? Im trying to figure out why your plan is entirely we need a progressive to win this election as if there is nothing else.</quote> both the neoliberals and neoconservatives operate from under the same underlying principles and framework, like -rilo- said. electing neoliberals is just going to keep things the way they are indefinitely. change only comes from "radical" candidates instead of the ones that want to continue using the same sets of policies that exist right now. I don't want to be a part of that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CRON 05/14/19 12:06:56 PM #83:	Doom_Art posted... Her homophobia in the past, her soft spot for Hindu nationalists, her fucking weird foreign policy history with regards to Assad/Syria, and honestly outside of all that she just comes across as a dick lol Is there a candidate you like best out of the current ones who've announced an interest to run for the White House? --- ~ (obligatory signature) ~ <cite>CRON posted [p:921879789] in My girl Tu... [t:77714226]...</cite> <quote><cite>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote>Her homophobia in the past, her soft spot for Hindu nationalists, her fucking weird foreign policy history with regards to Assad/Syria, and honestly outside of all that she just comes across as a dick lol</quote> Is there a candidate you like best out of the current ones who've announced an interest to run for the White House?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spudger 05/14/19 12:07:48 PM #84:	CRON posted... er soft spot for Hindu nationalists i dont understand what this m eans? is there an issue with Hindus? --- -Only dead fish swim with the current http://error1355.com/ce/spudger.html <cite>spudger posted [p:921879831] in My girl Tu... [t:77714226]...</cite> <quote><cite>CRON posted...</cite> <quote>er soft spot for Hindu nationalists</quote> i dont understand what this m eans? is there an issue with Hindus?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 05/14/19 12:08:55 PM #85:	spudger posted... CRON posted... er soft spot for Hindu nationalists i dont understand what this m eans? is there an issue with Hindus? Hindu nationalism is being used by Narenda Modi in India for roughly the same ends Trump is using white nationalism here in the US. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:921879876] in My girl Tu... [t:77714226]...</cite> <quote><cite>spudger posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CRON posted...</cite> <quote>er soft spot for Hindu nationalists</quote> i dont understand what this m eans? is there an issue with Hindus?</quote> Hindu nationalism is being used by Narenda Modi in India for roughly the same ends Trump is using white nationalism here in the US.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spudger 05/14/19 12:10:09 PM #86:	Antifar posted... spudger posted... CRON posted... er soft spot for Hindu nationalists i dont understand what this m eans? is there an issue with Hindus? Hindu nationalism is being used by Narenda Modi in India for roughly the same ends Trump is using white nationalism here in the US. got it. never heard Tulsi speak on this in the slightest. is she going around stumping for Modi? --- -Only dead fish swim with the current http://error1355.com/ce/spudger.html <cite>spudger posted [p:921879926] in My girl Tu... [t:77714226]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>spudger posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CRON posted...</cite> <quote>er soft spot for Hindu nationalists</quote> i dont understand what this m eans? is there an issue with Hindus?</quote> Hindu nationalism is being used by Narenda Modi in India for roughly the same ends Trump is using white nationalism here in the US.</quote> got it. never heard Tulsi speak on this in the slightest. is she going around stumping for Modi?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThyCorndog 05/14/19 12:15:10 PM #88:	Spooking posted... Tulsi is polling at 0%. lol she won't win. but the anti-interventionism she's bringing about to the front and center of her platform is one of the most important discussions we can have --- https://imgur.com/6cPXvLN <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:921880125] in My girl Tu... [t:77714226]...</cite> <quote><cite>Spooking posted...</cite> <quote>Tulsi is polling at 0%. lol</quote> she won't win. but the anti-interventionism she's bringing about to the front and center of her platform is one of the most important discussions we can have</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 05/14/19 12:18:31 PM #89:	shockthemonkey posted... ThyCorndog posted... shockthemonkey posted... ThyCorndog posted... shockthemonkey posted... ThyCorndog posted... I care. I just don't believe in temporary measures. the more trump is allowed to be the malicious idiot that he is, the more it strengthens progressives in the long term. it's something we can look back at and point to as something we don't ever want to return to again. if we don't get a progressive president now, then we'll get one after his second term. there was an unprecedented surge of progressive candidates and ideas in response to trump's victory in the election Do you think all the progressives will disappear if a neoliberal candidate wins or something? What is your plan if progressivism isnt popular enough to win? i'll keep supporting who I want to support. I'll probably keep believing in what I believe in. or maybe I'll end up having a different set of beliefs politically by then. it's possible I end up giving up like some of you and towing the party line. or maybe I just fuck off out of politics entirely. it's hard to really tell you what I'll do years down the line so I'm not sure what you're fishing for Who is towing the party line by voting for the best candidate in the race? Im trying to figure out why your plan is entirely we need a progressive to win this election as if there is nothing else. both the neoliberals and neoconservatives operate from under the same underlying principles and framework, like -rilo- said. electing neoliberals is just going to keep things the way they are indefinitely. change only comes from "radical" candidates instead of the ones that want to continue using the same sets of policies that exist right now. I don't want to be a part of that You can vote for better domestic policy while acknowledging that the foreign policy will be equally terrible. If you think everyone other than a radical candidate is exactly the same then youre being just as dishonest as the people who are objecting to Tulsis anti-interventionist policies because she used to be anti-gay. whatever dude. it's obvious we don't agree. at least you're not trying to accuse me of something like that other guy. I believe in dismantling the framework our politics operate in and don't believe in gradualism. I don't know what else to say --- https://imgur.com/6cPXvLN <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:921880245] in My girl Tu... [t:77714226]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>I care. I just don't believe in temporary measures. the more trump is allowed to be the malicious idiot that he is, the more it strengthens progressives in the long term. it's something we can look back at and point to as something we don't ever want to return to again. if we don't get a progressive president now, then we'll get one after his second term. there was an unprecedented surge of progressive candidates and ideas in response to trump's victory in the election</quote> Do you think all the progressives will disappear if a neoliberal candidate wins or something? What is your plan if progressivism isnt popular enough to win?</quote> i'll keep supporting who I want to support. I'll probably keep believing in what I believe in. or maybe I'll end up having a different set of beliefs politically by then. it's possible I end up giving up like some of you and towing the party line. or maybe I just fuck off out of politics entirely. it's hard to really tell you what I'll do years down the line so I'm not sure what you're fishing for</quote> Who is towing the party line by voting for the best candidate in the race? Im trying to figure out why your plan is entirely we need a progressive to win this election as if there is nothing else.</quote> both the neoliberals and neoconservatives operate from under the same underlying principles and framework, like -rilo- said. electing neoliberals is just going to keep things the way they are indefinitely. change only comes from "radical" candidates instead of the ones that want to continue using the same sets of policies that exist right now. I don't want to be a part of that</quote> You can vote for better domestic policy while acknowledging that the foreign policy will be equally terrible. If you think everyone other than a radical candidate is exactly the same then youre being just as dishonest as the people who are objecting to Tulsis anti-interventionist policies because she used to be anti-gay.</quote> whatever dude. it's obvious we don't agree. at least you're not trying to accuse me of something like that other guy. I believe in dismantling the framework our politics operate in and don't believe in gradualism. I don't know what else to say</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 05/14/19 12:19:01 PM #90:	ThyCorndog posted... Spooking posted... Tulsi is polling at 0%. lol she won't win. but the anti-interventionism she's bringing about to the front and center of her platform is one of the most important discussions we can have And it fucking sucks that the only person willing to speak like her has her controversial background. Anti-interventionism should be a mainstream idea and its fucking insane that its not. --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:921880263] in My girl Tu... [t:77714226]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Spooking posted...</cite> <quote>Tulsi is polling at 0%. lol</quote> she won't win. but the anti-interventionism she's bringing about to the front and center of her platform is one of the most important discussions we can have</quote> And it fucking sucks that the only person willing to speak like her has her controversial background. Anti-interventionism should be a mainstream idea and its fucking insane that its not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 05/14/19 12:21:36 PM #91:	ThyCorndog posted... shockthemonkey posted... ThyCorndog posted... shockthemonkey posted... ThyCorndog posted... shockthemonkey posted... ThyCorndog posted... I care. I just don't believe in temporary measures. the more trump is allowed to be the malicious idiot that he is, the more it strengthens progressives in the long term. it's something we can look back at and point to as something we don't ever want to return to again. if we don't get a progressive president now, then we'll get one after his second term. there was an unprecedented surge of progressive candidates and ideas in response to trump's victory in the election Do you think all the progressives will disappear if a neoliberal candidate wins or something? What is your plan if progressivism isnt popular enough to win? i'll keep supporting who I want to support. I'll probably keep believing in what I believe in. or maybe I'll end up having a different set of beliefs politically by then. it's possible I end up giving up like some of you and towing the party line. or maybe I just fuck off out of politics entirely. it's hard to really tell you what I'll do years down the line so I'm not sure what you're fishing for Who is towing the party line by voting for the best candidate in the race? Im trying to figure out why your plan is entirely we need a progressive to win this election as if there is nothing else. both the neoliberals and neoconservatives operate from under the same underlying principles and framework, like -rilo- said. electing neoliberals is just going to keep things the way they are indefinitely. change only comes from "radical" candidates instead of the ones that want to continue using the same sets of policies that exist right now. I don't want to be a part of that You can vote for better domestic policy while acknowledging that the foreign policy will be equally terrible. If you think everyone other than a radical candidate is exactly the same then youre being just as dishonest as the people who are objecting to Tulsis anti-interventionist policies because she used to be anti-gay. whatever dude. it's obvious we don't agree. at least you're not trying to accuse me of something like that other guy. I believe in dismantling the framework our politics operate in and don't believe in gradualism. I don't know what else to say In the US, the alternative to gradualism is conservatism. You havent said anything about domestic policy at all but youve acted like its entirely meaningless. --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:921880363] in My girl Tu... [t:77714226]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>I care. I just don't believe in temporary measures. the more trump is allowed to be the malicious idiot that he is, the more it strengthens progressives in the long term. it's something we can look back at and point to as something we don't ever want to return to again. if we don't get a progressive president now, then we'll get one after his second term. there was an unprecedented surge of progressive candidates and ideas in response to trump's victory in the election</quote> Do you think all the progressives will disappear if a neoliberal candidate wins or something? What is your plan if progressivism isnt popular enough to win?</quote> i'll keep supporting who I want to support. I'll probably keep believing in what I believe in. or maybe I'll end up having a different set of beliefs politically by then. it's possible I end up giving up like some of you and towing the party line. or maybe I just fuck off out of politics entirely. it's hard to really tell you what I'll do years down the line so I'm not sure what you're fishing for</quote> Who is towing the party line by voting for the best candidate in the race? Im trying to figure out why your plan is entirely we need a progressive to win this election as if there is nothing else.</quote> both the neoliberals and neoconservatives operate from under the same underlying principles and framework, like -rilo- said. electing neoliberals is just going to keep things the way they are indefinitely. change only comes from "radical" candidates instead of the ones that want to continue using the same sets of policies that exist right now. I don't want to be a part of that</quote> You can vote for better domestic policy while acknowledging that the foreign policy will be equally terrible. If you think everyone other than a radical candidate is exactly the same then youre being just as dishonest as the people who are objecting to Tulsis anti-interventionist policies because she used to be anti-gay.</quote> whatever dude. it's obvious we don't agree. at least you're not trying to accuse me of something like that other guy. I believe in dismantling the framework our politics operate in and don't believe in gradualism. I don't know what else to say</quote> In the US, the alternative to gradualism is conservatism. You havent said anything about domestic policy at all but youve acted like its entirely meaningless.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 05/14/19 12:27:02 PM #92:	King_Hellebuyck posted... In the US, the alternative to gradualism is conservatism. You havent said anything about domestic policy at all but youve acted like its entirely meaningless. it's not meaningless but our domestic policy on social issues has been trending towards progressivism for a while now and there's no reason to think that trend won't continue. but our domestic policies on things like healthcare won't change with neoliberals in charge. gay marriage for example is never going away now. we don't need to continue to fight for victories that have already been achieved. we need to keep fighting for more changes. neoliberals think things are fine as they are and wait for the wind to blow in a certain direction before they actually act on something. I don't want to wait 20 years for something to become palatable to neoliberals to actually want to enact change. it's like how obama wasn't openly for gay marriage until everyone else was --- https://imgur.com/6cPXvLN <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:921880551] in My girl Tu... [t:77714226]...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote> In the US, the alternative to gradualism is conservatism. You havent said anything about domestic policy at all but youve acted like its entirely meaningless.</quote> it's not meaningless but our domestic policy on social issues has been trending towards progressivism for a while now and there's no reason to think that trend won't continue. but our domestic policies on things like healthcare won't change with neoliberals in charge. gay marriage for example is never going away now. we don't need to continue to fight for victories that have already been achieved. we need to keep fighting for more changes. neoliberals think things are fine as they are and wait for the wind to blow in a certain direction before they actually act on something. I don't want to wait 20 years for something to become palatable to neoliberals to actually want to enact change. it's like how obama wasn't openly for gay marriage until everyone else was</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 05/14/19 12:29:24 PM #93:	ThyCorndog posted... King_Hellebuyck posted... In the US, the alternative to gradualism is conservatism. You havent said anything about domestic policy at all but youve acted like its entirely meaningless. it's not meaningless but our domestic policy on social issues has been trending towards progressivism for a while now and there's no reason to think that trend won't continue. but our domestic policies on things like healthcare won't change with neoliberals in charge. gay marriage for example is never going away now. we don't need to continue to fight for victories that have already been achieved. we need to keep fighting for more changes. neoliberals think things are fine as they are and wait for the wind to blow in a certain direction before they actually act on something. I don't want to wait 20 years for something to become palatable to neoliberals to actually want to enact change. it's like how obama wasn't openly for gay marriage until everyone else was A neoliberal tried to give us a public option for universal healthcare and the rest of Congress was too conservative to get it through. Gay and trans people can still be fired or evicting just for existing in over half of the country. Acting like this doesnt matter is embarrassing. --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:921880646] in My girl Tu... [t:77714226]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote> In the US, the alternative to gradualism is conservatism. You havent said anything about domestic policy at all but youve acted like its entirely meaningless.</quote> it's not meaningless but our domestic policy on social issues has been trending towards progressivism for a while now and there's no reason to think that trend won't continue. but our domestic policies on things like healthcare won't change with neoliberals in charge. gay marriage for example is never going away now. we don't need to continue to fight for victories that have already been achieved. we need to keep fighting for more changes. neoliberals think things are fine as they are and wait for the wind to blow in a certain direction before they actually act on something. I don't want to wait 20 years for something to become palatable to neoliberals to actually want to enact change. it's like how obama wasn't openly for gay marriage until everyone else was</quote> A neoliberal tried to give us a public option for universal healthcare and the rest of Congress was too conservative to get it through. Gay and trans people can still be fired or evicting just for existing in over half of the country. Acting like this doesnt matter is embarrassing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krojen 05/14/19 12:31:35 PM #94:	ThyCorndog posted... Doom_Art posted... King_Hellebuyck posted... You want to continue the shitty ass interventionist policies and world policing? I don't like supporting dictators, so Gabbard isn't the candidate for me Biden and the other neoliberals would continue supporting the 70 something % of dictators we already do. Theres no difference between trump and the neoliberals on foreign policy. Gabbard wants to stop intervening in regime change wars. That's not supporting dictators, that's us not being world police. Remember when liberals were against Bush for his regime change wars? What happened?I actually legit think we should leave Syria alone. That doesn't mean I support Assad Exactly. The US and many other candidates support a lot more dictators than Tulsi allegedly does. He's just parroting zingers from Nate Silver podcasts. Having access to Canadian healthcare means he can also afford to gloss over Tulsi being one of the few (2?) with unwavering support for med4all. --- https://imgur.com/hI4hAMb <cite>Krojen posted [p:921880742] in My girl Tu... [t:77714226]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote>You want to continue the shitty ass interventionist policies and world policing? </quote> I don't like supporting dictators, so Gabbard isn't the candidate for me</quote> Biden and the other neoliberals would continue supporting the 70 something % of dictators we already do. Theres no difference between trump and the neoliberals on foreign policy. Gabbard wants to stop intervening in regime change wars. That's not supporting dictators, that's us not being world police. Remember when liberals were against Bush for his regime change wars? What happened?I actually legit think we should leave Syria alone. That doesn't mean I support Assad</quote> Exactly. The US and many other candidates support a lot more dictators than Tulsi allegedly does. He's just parroting zingers from Nate Silver podcasts. Having access to Canadian healthcare means he can also afford to gloss over Tulsi being one of the few (2?) with unwavering support for med4all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 05/14/19 12:31:37 PM #95:	King_Hellebuyck posted... ThyCorndog posted... King_Hellebuyck posted... In the US, the alternative to gradualism is conservatism. You havent said anything about domestic policy at all but youve acted like its entirely meaningless. it's not meaningless but our domestic policy on social issues has been trending towards progressivism for a while now and there's no reason to think that trend won't continue. but our domestic policies on things like healthcare won't change with neoliberals in charge. gay marriage for example is never going away now. we don't need to continue to fight for victories that have already been achieved. we need to keep fighting for more changes. neoliberals think things are fine as they are and wait for the wind to blow in a certain direction before they actually act on something. I don't want to wait 20 years for something to become palatable to neoliberals to actually want to enact change. it's like how obama wasn't openly for gay marriage until everyone else was A neoliberal tried to give us a public option for universal healthcare and the rest of Congress was too conservative to get it through. Gay and trans people can still be fired or evicting just for existing in over half of the country. Acting like this doesnt matter is embarrassing. well good thing I'm for progressive candidates that are progressive on both domestic and foreign policies then. idk why you think you've caught me in something with these false dilemmas --- https://imgur.com/6cPXvLN <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:921880743] in My girl Tu... [t:77714226]...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote> In the US, the alternative to gradualism is conservatism. You havent said anything about domestic policy at all but youve acted like its entirely meaningless.</quote> it's not meaningless but our domestic policy on social issues has been trending towards progressivism for a while now and there's no reason to think that trend won't continue. but our domestic policies on things like healthcare won't change with neoliberals in charge. gay marriage for example is never going away now. we don't need to continue to fight for victories that have already been achieved. we need to keep fighting for more changes. neoliberals think things are fine as they are and wait for the wind to blow in a certain direction before they actually act on something. I don't want to wait 20 years for something to become palatable to neoliberals to actually want to enact change. it's like how obama wasn't openly for gay marriage until everyone else was</quote> A neoliberal tried to give us a public option for universal healthcare and the rest of Congress was too conservative to get it through. Gay and trans people can still be fired or evicting just for existing in over half of the country. Acting like this doesnt matter is embarrassing.</quote> well good thing I'm for progressive candidates that are progressive on both domestic and foreign policies then. idk why you think you've caught me in something with these false dilemmas</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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King_Hellebuyck 05/14/19 12:33:19 PM #97:	ThyCorndog posted... King_Hellebuyck posted... ThyCorndog posted... King_Hellebuyck posted... In the US, the alternative to gradualism is conservatism. You havent said anything about domestic policy at all but youve acted like its entirely meaningless. it's not meaningless but our domestic policy on social issues has been trending towards progressivism for a while now and there's no reason to think that trend won't continue. but our domestic policies on things like healthcare won't change with neoliberals in charge. gay marriage for example is never going away now. we don't need to continue to fight for victories that have already been achieved. we need to keep fighting for more changes. neoliberals think things are fine as they are and wait for the wind to blow in a certain direction before they actually act on something. I don't want to wait 20 years for something to become palatable to neoliberals to actually want to enact change. it's like how obama wasn't openly for gay marriage until everyone else was A neoliberal tried to give us a public option for universal healthcare and the rest of Congress was too conservative to get it through. Gay and trans people can still be fired or evicting just for existing in over half of the country. Acting like this doesnt matter is embarrassing. well good thing I'm for progressive candidates that are progressive on both domestic and foreign policies then. idk why you think you've caught me in something with these false dilemmas The point is that neoliberals are very willing to improve things domestically even with their shitty foreign policy and ignoring that fact is dangerous. --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:921880810] in My girl Tu... [t:77714226]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote> In the US, the alternative to gradualism is conservatism. You havent said anything about domestic policy at all but youve acted like its entirely meaningless.</quote> it's not meaningless but our domestic policy on social issues has been trending towards progressivism for a while now and there's no reason to think that trend won't continue. but our domestic policies on things like healthcare won't change with neoliberals in charge. gay marriage for example is never going away now. we don't need to continue to fight for victories that have already been achieved. we need to keep fighting for more changes. neoliberals think things are fine as they are and wait for the wind to blow in a certain direction before they actually act on something. I don't want to wait 20 years for something to become palatable to neoliberals to actually want to enact change. it's like how obama wasn't openly for gay marriage until everyone else was</quote> A neoliberal tried to give us a public option for universal healthcare and the rest of Congress was too conservative to get it through. Gay and trans people can still be fired or evicting just for existing in over half of the country. Acting like this doesnt matter is embarrassing.</quote> well good thing I'm for progressive candidates that are progressive on both domestic and foreign policies then. idk why you think you've caught me in something with these false dilemmas</quote> The point is that neoliberals are very willing to improve things domestically even with their shitty foreign policy and ignoring that fact is dangerous.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 05/14/19 12:34:40 PM #98:	King_Hellebuyck posted... ThyCorndog posted... King_Hellebuyck posted... ThyCorndog posted... King_Hellebuyck posted... In the US, the alternative to gradualism is conservatism. You havent said anything about domestic policy at all but youve acted like its entirely meaningless. it's not meaningless but our domestic policy on social issues has been trending towards progressivism for a while now and there's no reason to think that trend won't continue. but our domestic policies on things like healthcare won't change with neoliberals in charge. gay marriage for example is never going away now. we don't need to continue to fight for victories that have already been achieved. we need to keep fighting for more changes. neoliberals think things are fine as they are and wait for the wind to blow in a certain direction before they actually act on something. I don't want to wait 20 years for something to become palatable to neoliberals to actually want to enact change. it's like how obama wasn't openly for gay marriage until everyone else was A neoliberal tried to give us a public option for universal healthcare and the rest of Congress was too conservative to get it through. Gay and trans people can still be fired or evicting just for existing in over half of the country. Acting like this doesnt matter is embarrassing. well good thing I'm for progressive candidates that are progressive on both domestic and foreign policies then. idk why you think you've caught me in something with these false dilemmas The point is that neoliberals are very willing to improve things domestically even with their shitty foreign policy and ignoring that fact is dangerous. ok so let them be progressive on some (not all) domestic issues. I'm going to continue to support candidates that are progressive on most (if not all) issues in general --- https://imgur.com/6cPXvLN <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:921880865] in My girl Tu... [t:77714226]...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote> In the US, the alternative to gradualism is conservatism. You havent said anything about domestic policy at all but youve acted like its entirely meaningless.</quote> it's not meaningless but our domestic policy on social issues has been trending towards progressivism for a while now and there's no reason to think that trend won't continue. but our domestic policies on things like healthcare won't change with neoliberals in charge. gay marriage for example is never going away now. we don't need to continue to fight for victories that have already been achieved. we need to keep fighting for more changes. neoliberals think things are fine as they are and wait for the wind to blow in a certain direction before they actually act on something. I don't want to wait 20 years for something to become palatable to neoliberals to actually want to enact change. it's like how obama wasn't openly for gay marriage until everyone else was</quote> A neoliberal tried to give us a public option for universal healthcare and the rest of Congress was too conservative to get it through. Gay and trans people can still be fired or evicting just for existing in over half of the country. Acting like this doesnt matter is embarrassing.</quote> well good thing I'm for progressive candidates that are progressive on both domestic and foreign policies then. idk why you think you've caught me in something with these false dilemmas</quote> The point is that neoliberals are very willing to improve things domestically even with their shitty foreign policy and ignoring that fact is dangerous.</quote> ok so let them be progressive on some (not all) domestic issues. I'm going to continue to support candidates that are progressive on most (if not all) issues in general</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coastal_elite 05/14/19 12:34:48 PM #99:	ThyCorndog posted... the more trump is allowed to be the malicious idiot that he is, the more it strengthens progressives in the long term W-O-W Yeah, millions of lives will get irreparably damaged, forever. But hey, it's good for your political side in the long term, so it's all good huh? Y I K E S <cite>Coastal_elite posted [p:921880869] in My girl Tu... [t:77714226]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>the more trump is allowed to be the malicious idiot that he is, the more it strengthens progressives in the long term</quote> W-O-W Yeah, millions of lives will get irreparably damaged, forever. But hey, it's good for your political side in the long term, so it's all good huh? Y I K E S</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 05/14/19 12:38:49 PM #100:	You already stated that you wont support any neoliberals in the general election and refuse to talk about what youll do if a progressive doesnt win the Democratic nomination. Youre stuck in a moment of time and want to argue about how right you are at this moment without being able to talk about how to continue to get progressive policies enacted. --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:921881056] in My girl Tu... [t:77714226]...</cite> <quote>You already stated that you wont support any neoliberals in the general election and refuse to talk about what youll do if a progressive doesnt win the Democratic nomination. Youre stuck in a moment of time and want to argue about how right you are at this moment without being able to talk about how to continue to get progressive policies enacted.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 05/14/19 12:40:09 PM #101:	King_Hellebuyck posted... You already stated that you wont support any neoliberals in the general election and refuse to talk about what youll do if a progressive doesnt win the Democratic nomination. Youre stuck in a moment of time and want to argue about how right you are at this moment without being able to talk about how to continue to get progressive policies enacted. by continuing to support progressive candidates in the following elections. what do you want me to say? I thought I answered someone else on this exact question some posts back --- https://imgur.com/6cPXvLN <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:921881104] in My girl Tu... [t:77714226]...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote>You already stated that you wont support any neoliberals in the general election and refuse to talk about what youll do if a progressive doesnt win the Democratic nomination. Youre stuck in a moment of time and want to argue about how right you are at this moment without being able to talk about how to continue to get progressive policies enacted.</quote> by continuing to support progressive candidates in the following elections. what do you want me to say? I thought I answered someone else on this exact question some posts back</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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