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karlpilkington4 05/15/19 11:12:16 AM #101:	Ic3Bullet posted... I would have more respect for everyone who responded ITT with well murdering babies is worse than rape if they just cut the BS and admitted they dont care about women being raped. Logical fallacy detected. --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:921924113] in The punish... [t:77716460]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ic3Bullet posted...</cite> <quote>I would have more respect for everyone who responded ITT with well murdering babies is worse than rape if they just cut the BS and admitted they dont care about women being raped.</quote> Logical fallacy detected.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 05/15/19 11:15:34 AM #102:	karlpilkington4 posted... Ic3Bullet posted... I would have more respect for everyone who responded ITT with well murdering babies is worse than rape if they just cut the BS and admitted they dont care about women being raped. Logical fallacy detected. Irony --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:921924237] in The punish... [t:77716460]...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ic3Bullet posted...</cite> <quote>I would have more respect for everyone who responded ITT with well murdering babies is worse than rape if they just cut the BS and admitted they dont care about women being raped.</quote> Logical fallacy detected.</quote> Irony</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 05/15/19 11:17:06 AM #103:	Tmaster148 posted... karlpilkington4 posted... Ic3Bullet posted... I would have more respect for everyone who responded ITT with well murdering babies is worse than rape if they just cut the BS and admitted they dont care about women being raped. Logical fallacy detected. Irony No --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:921924287] in The punish... [t:77716460]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ic3Bullet posted...</cite> <quote>I would have more respect for everyone who responded ITT with well murdering babies is worse than rape if they just cut the BS and admitted they dont care about women being raped.</quote> Logical fallacy detected.</quote> Irony</quote> No</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CanuckCowboy 05/15/19 11:18:13 AM #104:	karlpilkington4 posted... ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted... obviously, these people think you are murdering a baby. Its pretty crazy how people cant seem to fathom this basic fact. Hey look Karl said something dumb that misses the point. New and exciting stuff itt. --- "I got a rollatruc, look." ~Misanthropic drunken loner~ <cite>CanuckCowboy posted [p:921924331] in The punish... [t:77716460]...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted...</cite> <quote>obviously, these people think you are murdering a baby.</quote> Its pretty crazy how people cant seem to fathom this basic fact.</quote> Hey look Karl said something dumb that misses the point. New and exciting stuff itt.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pus_N_Pecans 05/15/19 11:19:04 AM #105:	thanks-gohan posted... Alabama has capital punishment too. So you can be executed for aborting your rape baby. I know this is Alabama were talking about here, but Jesus Christ at this scenario. --- My arts- http://gopherguy.deviantart.com/ <cite>Pus_N_Pecans posted [p:921924376] in The punish... [t:77716460]...</cite> <quote><cite>thanks-gohan posted...</cite> <quote>Alabama has capital punishment too. So you can be executed for aborting your rape baby. </quote> I know this is Alabama were talking about here, but Jesus Christ at this scenario.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 05/15/19 11:19:05 AM #106:	karlpilkington4 posted... Tmaster148 posted... karlpilkington4 posted... Ic3Bullet posted... I would have more respect for everyone who responded ITT with well murdering babies is worse than rape if they just cut the BS and admitted they dont care about women being raped. Logical fallacy detected. Irony No https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Fallacy_fallacy --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:921924377] in The punish... [t:77716460]...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ic3Bullet posted...</cite> <quote>I would have more respect for everyone who responded ITT with well murdering babies is worse than rape if they just cut the BS and admitted they dont care about women being raped.</quote> Logical fallacy detected.</quote> Irony</quote> No</quote> https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Fallacy_fallacy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 05/15/19 11:20:41 AM #107:	CanuckCowboy posted... karlpilkington4 posted... ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted... obviously, these people think you are murdering a baby. Its pretty crazy how people cant seem to fathom this basic fact. Hey look Karl said something dumb that misses the point. New and exciting stuff itt. I didn't miss anything. Abortion is killing a life. That life will turn into a full fledged human being if not for that abortion. The intentional killing of a human being is illegal. You people are the ones missing the point. --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:921924429] in The punish... [t:77716460]...</cite> <quote><cite>CanuckCowboy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted...</cite> <quote>obviously, these people think you are murdering a baby.</quote> Its pretty crazy how people cant seem to fathom this basic fact.</quote> Hey look Karl said something dumb that misses the point. New and exciting stuff itt.</quote> I didn't miss anything. Abortion is killing a life. That life will turn into a full fledged human being if not for that abortion. The intentional killing of a human being is illegal. You people are the ones missing the point.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CanuckCowboy 05/15/19 11:22:50 AM #108:	Yawn. --- "I got a rollatruc, look." ~Misanthropic drunken loner~ <cite>CanuckCowboy posted [p:921924528] in The punish... [t:77716460]...</cite> <quote>Yawn.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 05/15/19 11:23:13 AM #109:	Well, we could always just take the fetus out and just let it persist for however long it will before it expires on its own. <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:921924541] in The punish... [t:77716460]...</cite> <quote>Well, we could always just take the fetus out and just let it persist for however long it will before it expires on its own.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 05/15/19 11:23:27 AM #110:	BigSLM1993 posted... Don't forget some gems coming out of this situation " Republican Senator Clyde Chambliss argued that the ban was still fair to victims of rape and incest because those women would still be allowed to get an abortion "until she knows she's pregnant," a statement that garnered a mixture of groans and cackles from the chamber's gallery. " "With liberal states approving radical late-term and post-birth abortions, Roe must be challenged, and I am proud that Alabama is leading the way," Ainsworth tweeted on Tuesday night." https://tinyurl.com/y682askv Wouldn't "post birth abortion" be the death penalty? Something currently legal in Alabama. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:921924549] in The punish... [t:77716460]...</cite> <quote><cite>BigSLM1993 posted...</cite> <quote>Don't forget some gems coming out of this situation " Republican Senator Clyde Chambliss argued that the ban was still fair to victims of rape and incest because those women would still be allowed to get an abortion "until she knows she's pregnant," a statement that garnered a mixture of groans and cackles from the chamber's gallery. " "With liberal states approving radical late-term and post-birth abortions, Roe must be challenged, and I am proud that Alabama is leading the way," Ainsworth tweeted on Tuesday night." https://tinyurl.com/y682askv</quote> Wouldn't "post birth abortion" be the death penalty? Something currently legal in Alabama.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 05/15/19 11:24:33 AM #111:	What in the fuck is a post birth abortion --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:921924585] in The punish... [t:77716460]...</cite> <quote>What in the fuck is a post birth abortion</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crepes 05/15/19 11:32:39 AM #112:	Why do republicans only care about humans while they are in the womb? Cause they sure as hell don't give a fuck about them after they are born. --- Praxis Makes Perfect The only intelligent tactical response to life's horror is to laugh defiantly at it. ~Soren Kierkegaard <cite>Crepes posted [p:921924894] in The punish... [t:77716460]...</cite> <quote>Why do republicans only care about humans while they are in the womb? Cause they sure as hell don't give a fuck about them after they are born.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CanuckCowboy 05/15/19 11:33:43 AM #113:	Crepes posted... Why do republicans only care about humans while they are in the womb? Cause they sure as hell don't give a fuck about them after they are born. They dont care about em in the womb either. They just want to be as self righteous as possible and you cant do that by judging a baby. --- "I got a rollatruc, look." ~Misanthropic drunken loner~ <cite>CanuckCowboy posted [p:921924938] in The punish... [t:77716460]...</cite> <quote><cite>Crepes posted...</cite> <quote>Why do republicans only care about humans while they are in the womb? Cause they sure as hell don't give a fuck about them after they are born.</quote> They dont care about em in the womb either. They just want to be as self righteous as possible and you cant do that by judging a baby.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 05/15/19 11:34:07 AM #114:	Crepes posted... Why do republicans only care about humans while they are in the womb? Cause they sure as hell don't give a fuck about them after they are born. Thats an interesting generalization that isnt based on any sort of statistical fact. --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:921924954] in The punish... [t:77716460]...</cite> <quote><cite>Crepes posted...</cite> <quote>Why do republicans only care about humans while they are in the womb? Cause they sure as hell don't give a fuck about them after they are born.</quote> Thats an interesting generalization that isnt based on any sort of statistical fact.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 05/15/19 11:34:39 AM #115:	Crepes posted... Why do republicans only care about humans while they are in the womb? Cause they sure as hell don't give a fuck about them after they are born. Even Republicans give more funding to born children than unborn, and even Republicans want infanticide to be illegal. In what way do you assert that your statement is true? --- 53 LIII 0b110101 p16 0x35 <cite>DevsBro posted [p:921924971] in The punish... [t:77716460]...</cite> <quote><cite>Crepes posted...</cite> <quote>Why do republicans only care about humans while they are in the womb? Cause they sure as hell don't give a fuck about them after they are born.</quote> Even Republicans give more funding to born children than unborn, and even Republicans want infanticide to be illegal. In what way do you assert that your statement is true?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CanuckCowboy 05/15/19 11:36:31 AM #116:	karlpilkington4 posted... Crepes posted... Why do republicans only care about humans while they are in the womb? Cause they sure as hell don't give a fuck about them after they are born. Thats an interesting generalization that isnt based on any sort of statistical fact. Orly --- "I got a rollatruc, look." ~Misanthropic drunken loner~ <cite>CanuckCowboy posted [p:921925046] in The punish... [t:77716460]...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Crepes posted...</cite> <quote>Why do republicans only care about humans while they are in the womb? Cause they sure as hell don't give a fuck about them after they are born.</quote> Thats an interesting generalization that isnt based on any sort of statistical fact.</quote> Orly</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 05/15/19 11:37:36 AM #117:	CanuckCowboy posted... karlpilkington4 posted... Crepes posted... Why do republicans only care about humans while they are in the womb? Cause they sure as hell don't give a fuck about them after they are born. Thats an interesting generalization that isnt based on any sort of statistical fact. Orly Yes, but please feel free to quantify your assertion with data and prove me wrong. --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:921925097] in The punish... [t:77716460]...</cite> <quote><cite>CanuckCowboy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Crepes posted...</cite> <quote>Why do republicans only care about humans while they are in the womb? Cause they sure as hell don't give a fuck about them after they are born.</quote> Thats an interesting generalization that isnt based on any sort of statistical fact.</quote> Orly</quote> Yes, but please feel free to quantify your assertion with data and prove me wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NeoShadowhen 05/15/19 11:44:16 AM #119:	karlpilkington4 posted... CanuckCowboy posted... karlpilkington4 posted... ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted... obviously, these people think you are murdering a baby. Its pretty crazy how people cant seem to fathom this basic fact. Hey look Karl said something dumb that misses the point. New and exciting stuff itt. I didn't miss anything. Abortion is killing a life. That life will turn into a full fledged human being if not for that abortion. The intentional killing of a human being is illegal. You people are the ones missing the point. The reason that this debate never goes anywhere is because those in favor of abortion being preserved do not believe you. They do not believe pro-life advocates when they say that they believe abortion is murder and that is why they are against it. Rather, the pro-choice side believes that the pro-life side hates women, wants to eventually remove their right to vote and turn them into breeding stock. The pro-life side has their credibility damaged because many people who are pro-life also support politicians who do not support a number of other social and welfare issues, so the pro-choice side believes their credibility is garbage. The pro-choice side has their credibility damaged because they dont adequately address the argument that abortion is ending a human life, and typically devolve into regurgitating claims about clumps of cells and how a fetus is not a person, with complete disregard about how complicated of a question they are brushing off. Theres never going to be an adequate resolution to this debate because both sides believe the other is evil and arguing in bad faith. Either you recognize that, or you believe the side opposed to you is evil. The only other possible stance is complete ignorance and apathy. <cite>NeoShadowhen posted [p:921925403] in The punish... [t:77716460]...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CanuckCowboy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted...</cite> <quote>obviously, these people think you are murdering a baby.</quote> Its pretty crazy how people cant seem to fathom this basic fact.</quote> Hey look Karl said something dumb that misses the point. New and exciting stuff itt.</quote> I didn't miss anything. Abortion is killing a life. That life will turn into a full fledged human being if not for that abortion. The intentional killing of a human being is illegal. You people are the ones missing the point.</quote> The reason that this debate never goes anywhere is because those in favor of abortion being preserved do not believe you. They do not believe pro-life advocates when they say that they believe abortion is murder and that is why they are against it. Rather, the pro-choice side believes that the pro-life side hates women, wants to eventually remove their right to vote and turn them into breeding stock. The pro-life side has their credibility damaged because many people who are pro-life also support politicians who do not support a number of other social and welfare issues, so the pro-choice side believes their credibility is garbage. The pro-choice side has their credibility damaged because they dont adequately address the argument that abortion is ending a human life, and typically devolve into regurgitating claims about clumps of cells and how a fetus is not a person, with complete disregard about how complicated of a question they are brushing off. Theres never going to be an adequate resolution to this debate because both sides believe the other is evil and arguing in bad faith. Either you recognize that, or you believe the side opposed to you is evil. The only other possible stance is complete ignorance and apathy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CanuckCowboy 05/15/19 11:45:48 AM #120:	NeoShadowhen posted... karlpilkington4 posted... CanuckCowboy posted... karlpilkington4 posted... ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted... obviously, these people think you are murdering a baby. Its pretty crazy how people cant seem to fathom this basic fact. Hey look Karl said something dumb that misses the point. New and exciting stuff itt. I didn't miss anything. Abortion is killing a life. That life will turn into a full fledged human being if not for that abortion. The intentional killing of a human being is illegal. You people are the ones missing the point. The reason that this debate never goes anywhere is because those in favor of abortion being preserved do not believe you. They do not believe pro-life advocates when they say that they believe abortion is murder and that is why they are against it. Rather, the pro-choice side believes that the pro-life side hates women, wants to eventually remove their right to vote and turn them into breeding stock. The pro-life side has their credibility damaged because many people who are pro-life also support politicians who do not support a number of other social and welfare issues, so the pro-choice side believes their credibility is garbage. The pro-choice side has their credibility damaged because they dont adequately address the argument that abortion is ending a human life, and typically devolve into regurgitating claims about clumps of cells and how a fetus is not a person, with complete disregard about how complicated of a question they are brushing off. Theres never going to be an adequate resolution to this debate because both sides believe the other is evil and arguing in bad faith. Either you recognize that, or you believe the side opposed to you is evil. The only other possible stance is complete ignorance and apathy. That a whole lotta assumption and putting words in peoples mouths en masse dude. --- "I got a rollatruc, look." ~Misanthropic drunken loner~ <cite>CanuckCowboy posted [p:921925473] in The punish... [t:77716460]...</cite> <quote><cite>NeoShadowhen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CanuckCowboy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted...</cite> <quote>obviously, these people think you are murdering a baby.</quote> Its pretty crazy how people cant seem to fathom this basic fact.</quote> Hey look Karl said something dumb that misses the point. New and exciting stuff itt.</quote> I didn't miss anything. Abortion is killing a life. That life will turn into a full fledged human being if not for that abortion. The intentional killing of a human being is illegal. You people are the ones missing the point.</quote> The reason that this debate never goes anywhere is because those in favor of abortion being preserved do not believe you. They do not believe pro-life advocates when they say that they believe abortion is murder and that is why they are against it. Rather, the pro-choice side believes that the pro-life side hates women, wants to eventually remove their right to vote and turn them into breeding stock. The pro-life side has their credibility damaged because many people who are pro-life also support politicians who do not support a number of other social and welfare issues, so the pro-choice side believes their credibility is garbage. The pro-choice side has their credibility damaged because they dont adequately address the argument that abortion is ending a human life, and typically devolve into regurgitating claims about clumps of cells and how a fetus is not a person, with complete disregard about how complicated of a question they are brushing off. Theres never going to be an adequate resolution to this debate because both sides believe the other is evil and arguing in bad faith. Either you recognize that, or you believe the side opposed to you is evil. The only other possible stance is complete ignorance and apathy.</quote> That a whole lotta assumption and putting words in peoples mouths en masse dude.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KBGiantsfan 05/15/19 11:48:26 AM #121:	LOL, great example of how stupid certain aspects of "modern" society have become --- PSN: KBGiantsfan My Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/user/kblunt420?feature=mhee <cite>KBGiantsfan posted [p:921925578] in The punish... [t:77716460]...</cite> <quote>LOL, great example of how stupid certain aspects of "modern" society have become</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ragnarider 05/15/19 11:49:26 AM #122:	We have the GOP aka the American Taliban to thank for this. <cite>Ragnarider posted [p:921925619] in The punish... [t:77716460]...</cite> <quote>We have the GOP aka the American Taliban to thank for this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeoShadowhen 05/15/19 11:50:49 AM #123:	CanuckCowboy posted... NeoShadowhen posted... karlpilkington4 posted... CanuckCowboy posted... karlpilkington4 posted... ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted... obviously, these people think you are murdering a baby. Its pretty crazy how people cant seem to fathom this basic fact. Hey look Karl said something dumb that misses the point. New and exciting stuff itt. I didn't miss anything. Abortion is killing a life. That life will turn into a full fledged human being if not for that abortion. The intentional killing of a human being is illegal. You people are the ones missing the point. The reason that this debate never goes anywhere is because those in favor of abortion being preserved do not believe you. They do not believe pro-life advocates when they say that they believe abortion is murder and that is why they are against it. Rather, the pro-choice side believes that the pro-life side hates women, wants to eventually remove their right to vote and turn them into breeding stock. The pro-life side has their credibility damaged because many people who are pro-life also support politicians who do not support a number of other social and welfare issues, so the pro-choice side believes their credibility is garbage. The pro-choice side has their credibility damaged because they dont adequately address the argument that abortion is ending a human life, and typically devolve into regurgitating claims about clumps of cells and how a fetus is not a person, with complete disregard about how complicated of a question they are brushing off. Theres never going to be an adequate resolution to this debate because both sides believe the other is evil and arguing in bad faith. Either you recognize that, or you believe the side opposed to you is evil. The only other possible stance is complete ignorance and apathy. That a whole lotta assumption and putting words in peoples mouths en masse dude. Yeah, I do that. Its not a problem. Do you have any specific critiques of my analysis? <cite>NeoShadowhen posted [p:921925684] in The punish... [t:77716460]...</cite> <quote><cite>CanuckCowboy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NeoShadowhen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CanuckCowboy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted...</cite> <quote>obviously, these people think you are murdering a baby.</quote> Its pretty crazy how people cant seem to fathom this basic fact.</quote> Hey look Karl said something dumb that misses the point. New and exciting stuff itt.</quote> I didn't miss anything. Abortion is killing a life. That life will turn into a full fledged human being if not for that abortion. The intentional killing of a human being is illegal. You people are the ones missing the point.</quote> The reason that this debate never goes anywhere is because those in favor of abortion being preserved do not believe you. They do not believe pro-life advocates when they say that they believe abortion is murder and that is why they are against it. Rather, the pro-choice side believes that the pro-life side hates women, wants to eventually remove their right to vote and turn them into breeding stock. The pro-life side has their credibility damaged because many people who are pro-life also support politicians who do not support a number of other social and welfare issues, so the pro-choice side believes their credibility is garbage. The pro-choice side has their credibility damaged because they dont adequately address the argument that abortion is ending a human life, and typically devolve into regurgitating claims about clumps of cells and how a fetus is not a person, with complete disregard about how complicated of a question they are brushing off. Theres never going to be an adequate resolution to this debate because both sides believe the other is evil and arguing in bad faith. Either you recognize that, or you believe the side opposed to you is evil. The only other possible stance is complete ignorance and apathy.</quote> That a whole lotta assumption and putting words in peoples mouths en masse dude.</quote> Yeah, I do that. Its not a problem. Do you have any specific critiques of my analysis?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 05/15/19 11:53:09 AM #124:	NeoShadowhen posted... CanuckCowboy posted... NeoShadowhen posted... karlpilkington4 posted... CanuckCowboy posted... karlpilkington4 posted... ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted... obviously, these people think you are murdering a baby. Its pretty crazy how people cant seem to fathom this basic fact. Hey look Karl said something dumb that misses the point. New and exciting stuff itt. I didn't miss anything. Abortion is killing a life. That life will turn into a full fledged human being if not for that abortion. The intentional killing of a human being is illegal. You people are the ones missing the point. The reason that this debate never goes anywhere is because those in favor of abortion being preserved do not believe you. They do not believe pro-life advocates when they say that they believe abortion is murder and that is why they are against it. Rather, the pro-choice side believes that the pro-life side hates women, wants to eventually remove their right to vote and turn them into breeding stock. The pro-life side has their credibility damaged because many people who are pro-life also support politicians who do not support a number of other social and welfare issues, so the pro-choice side believes their credibility is garbage. The pro-choice side has their credibility damaged because they dont adequately address the argument that abortion is ending a human life, and typically devolve into regurgitating claims about clumps of cells and how a fetus is not a person, with complete disregard about how complicated of a question they are brushing off. Theres never going to be an adequate resolution to this debate because both sides believe the other is evil and arguing in bad faith. Either you recognize that, or you believe the side opposed to you is evil. The only other possible stance is complete ignorance and apathy. That a whole lotta assumption and putting words in peoples mouths en masse dude. Yeah, I do that. Its not a problem. Do you have any specific critiques of my analysis? Don't mind him. I thought it was one of the best posts so far in this topic. Thanks for the well thought out insight. --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:921925771] in The punish... [t:77716460]...</cite> <quote><cite>NeoShadowhen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CanuckCowboy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NeoShadowhen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CanuckCowboy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted...</cite> <quote>obviously, these people think you are murdering a baby.</quote> Its pretty crazy how people cant seem to fathom this basic fact.</quote> Hey look Karl said something dumb that misses the point. New and exciting stuff itt.</quote> I didn't miss anything. Abortion is killing a life. That life will turn into a full fledged human being if not for that abortion. The intentional killing of a human being is illegal. You people are the ones missing the point.</quote> The reason that this debate never goes anywhere is because those in favor of abortion being preserved do not believe you. They do not believe pro-life advocates when they say that they believe abortion is murder and that is why they are against it. Rather, the pro-choice side believes that the pro-life side hates women, wants to eventually remove their right to vote and turn them into breeding stock. The pro-life side has their credibility damaged because many people who are pro-life also support politicians who do not support a number of other social and welfare issues, so the pro-choice side believes their credibility is garbage. The pro-choice side has their credibility damaged because they dont adequately address the argument that abortion is ending a human life, and typically devolve into regurgitating claims about clumps of cells and how a fetus is not a person, with complete disregard about how complicated of a question they are brushing off. Theres never going to be an adequate resolution to this debate because both sides believe the other is evil and arguing in bad faith. Either you recognize that, or you believe the side opposed to you is evil. The only other possible stance is complete ignorance and apathy.</quote> That a whole lotta assumption and putting words in peoples mouths en masse dude.</quote> Yeah, I do that. Its not a problem. Do you have any specific critiques of my analysis?</quote> Don't mind him. I thought it was one of the best posts so far in this topic. Thanks for the well thought out insight.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Catgirl Fondler 05/15/19 11:53:38 AM #125:	emblem boy posted... Like, i feel that some people only seem to understand the pro life side as being a bunch of mustach twirling villains. It's just lazy It's not lazy, it's fact. Being pro-life objectively makes somebody a shit-tier person. +++ Ic3Bullet posted... I would have more respect for everyone who responded ITT with well murdering babies is worse than rape if they just cut the BS and admitted they dont care about women being raped. I don't think it's coincidence that a lot of incels are pro-life, and from that, you realize the horrifying intentions from these "forced breeding stock" antics that they hoot and holler for. --- N/A <cite>The Catgirl Fondler posted [p:921925792] in The punish... [t:77716460]...</cite> <quote><cite>emblem boy posted...</cite> <quote>Like, i feel that some people only seem to understand the pro life side as being a bunch of mustach twirling villains. It's just lazy</quote> It's not lazy, it's fact. Being pro-life objectively makes somebody a shit-tier person. +++ <cite>Ic3Bullet posted...</cite> <quote>I would have more respect for everyone who responded ITT with well murdering babies is worse than rape if they just cut the BS and admitted they dont care about women being raped.</quote> I don't think it's coincidence that a lot of incels are pro-life, and from that, you realize the horrifying intentions from these "forced breeding stock" antics that they hoot and holler for.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 05/15/19 11:55:47 AM #126:	I don't speak for other people, but I don't think pro-life people are evil, I believe them when they say they believe abortion is murder, I have no problem considering a fetus a human being, I recognize that a human being's life ends because of abortion, and that does not cause any problem for my position. <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:921925893] in The punish... [t:77716460]...</cite> <quote>I don't speak for other people, but I don't think pro-life people are evil, I believe them when they say they believe abortion is murder, I have no problem considering a fetus a human being, I recognize that a human being's life ends because of abortion, and that does not cause any problem for my position.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeoShadowhen 05/15/19 12:02:31 PM #127:	Dragonblade01 posted... I don't speak for other people, but I don't think pro-life people are evil, I believe them when they say they believe abortion is murder, I have no problem considering a fetus a human being, I recognize that a human being's life ends because of abortion, and that does not cause any problem for my position. Is it a self-defense angle, or more of a eugenics angle? <cite>NeoShadowhen posted [p:921926167] in The punish... [t:77716460]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't speak for other people, but I don't think pro-life people are evil, I believe them when they say they believe abortion is murder, I have no problem considering a fetus a human being, I recognize that a human being's life ends because of abortion, and that does not cause any problem for my position.</quote> Is it a self-defense angle, or more of a eugenics angle?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DezDroppedFreak 05/15/19 12:03:09 PM #128:	Yeah I kept telling people just wait until this shit passes when Georgias abortion bill passed. Its far worse than that Hell they actually had a vote to add rape and incest to the exceptions list and it was struck down nearly 2 to 1 Our state fucking sucks --- I feel like Ratatouille when I'm whipping that cheddar <cite>DezDroppedFreak posted [p:921926193] in The punish... [t:77716460]...</cite> <quote>Yeah I kept telling people just wait until this shit passes when Georgias abortion bill passed. Its far worse than that Hell they actually had a vote to add rape and incest to the exceptions list and it was struck down nearly 2 to 1 Our state fucking sucks</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 05/15/19 12:04:40 PM #129:	Further evidence that we should have just let Sherman burn the entirety of the south to ground and given the land to the freed slaves to do with as they wished. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:921926251] in The punish... [t:77716460]...</cite> <quote>Further evidence that we should have just let Sherman burn the entirety of the south to ground and given the land to the freed slaves to do with as they wished.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sheep007 05/15/19 12:07:02 PM #130:	Dragonblade01 posted... I don't speak for other people, but I don't think pro-life people are evil, I believe them when they say they believe abortion is murder, I have no problem considering a fetus a human being, I recognize that a human being's life ends because of abortion, and that does not cause any problem for my position. This is very similar to my position. My reasoning is that the fetus has had no chance to experience life and therefore has nothing to lose, and they do not feel pain until at least the second trimester, iirc (may be wrong, feel free to correct me). Before that point, it's basically just slightly later contraception to me, as the fetus cannot suffer. After that, it's a bit less clear. I think that picking when life starts would be arbitrary in the first place, but as I'm personally not religious I don't see a basis for suggesting that life is inherently sacred or special. --- Perhaps the golden rock was inside us all along. <cite>Sheep007 posted [p:921926355] in The punish... [t:77716460]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't speak for other people, but I don't think pro-life people are evil, I believe them when they say they believe abortion is murder, I have no problem considering a fetus a human being, I recognize that a human being's life ends because of abortion, and that does not cause any problem for my position.</quote> This is very similar to my position. My reasoning is that the fetus has had no chance to experience life and therefore has nothing to lose, and they do not feel pain until at least the second trimester, iirc (may be wrong, feel free to correct me). Before that point, it's basically just slightly later contraception to me, as the fetus cannot suffer. After that, it's a bit less clear. I think that picking when life starts would be arbitrary in the first place, but as I'm personally not religious I don't see a basis for suggesting that life is inherently sacred or special.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Musourenka 05/15/19 12:15:33 PM #131:	Ragnarider posted... We have the GOP aka the American Taliban to thank for this. I prefer the term "Y'all-Queda". --- Shooing away pigeons crapping on debate tables is not a violation of the pigeons' free speech. <cite>Musourenka posted [p:921926719] in The punish... [t:77716460]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ragnarider posted...</cite> <quote>We have the GOP aka the American Taliban to thank for this.</quote> I prefer the term "Y'all-Queda".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeoShadowhen 05/15/19 12:17:42 PM #132:	Sheep007 posted... Dragonblade01 posted... I don't speak for other people, but I don't think pro-life people are evil, I believe them when they say they believe abortion is murder, I have no problem considering a fetus a human being, I recognize that a human being's life ends because of abortion, and that does not cause any problem for my position. This is very similar to my position. My reasoning is that the fetus has had no chance to experience life and therefore has nothing to lose, and they do not feel pain until at least the second trimester, iirc (may be wrong, feel free to correct me). Before that point, it's basically just slightly later contraception to me, as the fetus cannot suffer. After that, it's a bit less clear. I think that picking when life starts would be arbitrary in the first place, but as I'm personally not religious I don't see a basis for suggesting that life is inherently sacred or special. I dont think has nothing to lose is something that follows from no chance to experience life. Having nothing to lose implies that there is no future potential. Unless, you are saying that nothing to lose implies that the only potential loss is based off of what was previously experienced. I believe most people would include future potential experience as something to lose. Typically, when someone is referred to as having nothing to lose, they lack anything currently and future prospects are grim. But perhaps you dont take future possibility into account when measuring quality of ones position. <cite>NeoShadowhen posted [p:921926804] in The punish... [t:77716460]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sheep007 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't speak for other people, but I don't think pro-life people are evil, I believe them when they say they believe abortion is murder, I have no problem considering a fetus a human being, I recognize that a human being's life ends because of abortion, and that does not cause any problem for my position.</quote> This is very similar to my position. My reasoning is that the fetus has had no chance to experience life and therefore has nothing to lose, and they do not feel pain until at least the second trimester, iirc (may be wrong, feel free to correct me). Before that point, it's basically just slightly later contraception to me, as the fetus cannot suffer. After that, it's a bit less clear. I think that picking when life starts would be arbitrary in the first place, but as I'm personally not religious I don't see a basis for suggesting that life is inherently sacred or special.</quote> I dont think has nothing to lose is something that follows from no chance to experience life. Having nothing to lose implies that there is no future potential. Unless, you are saying that nothing to lose implies that the only potential loss is based off of what was previously experienced. I believe most people would include future potential experience as something to lose. Typically, when someone is referred to as having nothing to lose, they lack anything currently and future prospects are grim. But perhaps you dont take future possibility into account when measuring quality of ones position.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 05/15/19 12:18:49 PM #133:	NeoShadowhen posted... Dragonblade01 posted... I don't speak for other people, but I don't think pro-life people are evil, I believe them when they say they believe abortion is murder, I have no problem considering a fetus a human being, I recognize that a human being's life ends because of abortion, and that does not cause any problem for my position. Is it a self-defense angle, or more of a eugenics angle? Regarding the killing of the fetus? More of a "most humane option" angle. <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:921926849] in The punish... [t:77716460]...</cite> <quote><cite>NeoShadowhen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't speak for other people, but I don't think pro-life people are evil, I believe them when they say they believe abortion is murder, I have no problem considering a fetus a human being, I recognize that a human being's life ends because of abortion, and that does not cause any problem for my position.</quote> Is it a self-defense angle, or more of a eugenics angle?</quote> Regarding the killing of the fetus? More of a "most humane option" angle.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlingBling22947 05/15/19 12:23:19 PM #134:	Ohio: Were pretty tough on abortion and birth control access. Georgia: Were the toughest on abortion. Alabama: Hold my beer and watch this. --- When was the last time you heard your boy Nas rhyme? Never on schedule but always on time <cite>BlingBling22947 posted [p:921927033] in The punish... [t:77716460]...</cite> <quote>Ohio: Were pretty tough on abortion and birth control access. Georgia: Were the toughest on abortion. Alabama: Hold my beer and watch this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RiKuToTheMiGhtY 05/15/19 12:26:45 PM #135:	This seems like another batshit insane law never voted for or approved by people just pushed through by politicians. --- doa-plus.com - We Press Forward. . . By Pressing Back. <cite>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted [p:921927171] in The punish... [t:77716460]...</cite> <quote>This seems like another batshit insane law never voted for or approved by people just pushed through by politicians.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IfGodCouldDie 05/15/19 12:43:45 PM #136:	karlpilkington4 posted... Dragonblade01 posted... karlpilkington4 posted... Alabama seems to think so. That just means they're wrong. Why exactly? Can the fetus survive outside the womb, if not it's not a baby. If it's not a baby it's not murder. --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:IfGodCouldDie IGN:SuperPattyCakes FC: SW-1615-6159-5504 <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:921927868] in The punish... [t:77716460]...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote>Alabama seems to think so.</quote> That just means they're wrong.</quote> Why exactly?</quote> Can the fetus survive outside the womb, if not it's not a baby. If it's not a baby it's not murder.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 05/15/19 12:46:43 PM #137:	IfGodCouldDie posted... karlpilkington4 posted... Dragonblade01 posted... karlpilkington4 posted... Alabama seems to think so. That just means they're wrong. Why exactly? Can the fetus survive outside the womb, if not it's not a baby. If it's not a baby it's not murder. Your attempt at a semantic word game is not strong enough of an argument anymore. --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:921927980] in The punish... [t:77716460]...</cite> <quote><cite>IfGodCouldDie posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote>Alabama seems to think so.</quote> That just means they're wrong.</quote> Why exactly?</quote> Can the fetus survive outside the womb, if not it's not a baby. If it's not a baby it's not murder.</quote> Your attempt at a semantic word game is not strong enough of an argument anymore.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 05/15/19 12:55:27 PM #138:	Its strange how conservatives dont give a fuck about bodily autonomy. --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:921928375] in The punish... [t:77716460]...</cite> <quote>Its strange how conservatives dont give a fuck about bodily autonomy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeoShadowhen 05/15/19 1:00:05 PM #139:	Dragonblade01 posted... NeoShadowhen posted... Dragonblade01 posted... I don't speak for other people, but I don't think pro-life people are evil, I believe them when they say they believe abortion is murder, I have no problem considering a fetus a human being, I recognize that a human being's life ends because of abortion, and that does not cause any problem for my position. Is it a self-defense angle, or more of a eugenics angle? Regarding the killing of the fetus? More of a "most humane option" angle. In the sense that its more humane to end the human life than to put it through the suffers of life and the world? Or the suffering of others that will have to live with that person in the world? What I actually think your trying to say is that termination of pregnancies is a given, and that ending a human life is just the best way we can go about doing it. <cite>NeoShadowhen posted [p:921928571] in The punish... [t:77716460]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NeoShadowhen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't speak for other people, but I don't think pro-life people are evil, I believe them when they say they believe abortion is murder, I have no problem considering a fetus a human being, I recognize that a human being's life ends because of abortion, and that does not cause any problem for my position.</quote> Is it a self-defense angle, or more of a eugenics angle?</quote> Regarding the killing of the fetus? More of a "most humane option" angle.</quote> In the sense that its more humane to end the human life than to put it through the suffers of life and the world? Or the suffering of others that will have to live with that person in the world? What I actually think your trying to say is that termination of pregnancies is a given, and that ending a human life is just the best way we can go about doing it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 05/15/19 1:04:39 PM #140:	NeoShadowhen posted... In the sense that its more humane to end the human life than to put it through the suffers of life and the world? Or the suffering of others that will have to live with that person in the world? In the sense of whatever degree of suffering the fetus might experience after being removed from the mother's womb prematurely. What I actually think your trying to say is that termination of pregnancies is a given, and that ending a human life is just the best way we can go about doing it. In a nutshell. <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:921928772] in The punish... [t:77716460]...</cite> <quote><cite>NeoShadowhen posted...</cite> <quote>In the sense that its more humane to end the human life than to put it through the suffers of life and the world? Or the suffering of others that will have to live with that person in the world?</quote> In the sense of whatever degree of suffering the fetus might experience after being removed from the mother's womb prematurely. <quote>What I actually think your trying to say is that termination of pregnancies is a given, and that ending a human life is just the best way we can go about doing it.</quote> In a nutshell.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IfGodCouldDie 05/15/19 1:07:22 PM #141:	karlpilkington4 posted... IfGodCouldDie posted... karlpilkington4 posted... Dragonblade01 posted... karlpilkington4 posted... Alabama seems to think so. That just means they're wrong. Why exactly? Can the fetus survive outside the womb, if not it's not a baby. If it's not a baby it's not murder. Your attempt at a semantic word game is not strong enough of an argument anymore. So then explain how I am wrong. --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:IfGodCouldDie IGN:SuperPattyCakes FC: SW-1615-6159-5504 <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:921928884] in The punish... [t:77716460]...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>IfGodCouldDie posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote>Alabama seems to think so.</quote> That just means they're wrong.</quote> Why exactly?</quote> Can the fetus survive outside the womb, if not it's not a baby. If it's not a baby it's not murder.</quote> Your attempt at a semantic word game is not strong enough of an argument anymore.</quote> So then explain how I am wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Deedice 05/15/19 1:08:16 PM #142:	jborgan posted... People who call it murder aren't worth having a discussion with. Its only worth discussing things with people who think the same as you? Thats really close-minded --- Drake the type of dude to gather the Dragon Balls to wish that his ex finds a good man. - KMNL <cite>Deedice posted [p:921928931] in The punish... [t:77716460]...</cite> <quote><cite>jborgan posted...</cite> <quote>People who call it murder aren't worth having a discussion with.</quote> Its only worth discussing things with people who think the same as you? Thats really close-minded</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Deedice 05/15/19 1:10:31 PM #143:	jborgan posted... karlpilkington4 posted... jborgan posted... karlpilkington4 posted... jborgan posted... DevsBro posted... Dragonblade01 posted... Abortion isn't murder. Yeah it is No it isn't. Alabama seems to think so. Yeah, it's a shame the people behind these bills are such pieces of shit. It's not a shame at all. People are literally killing a life and getting away with it. This is going to stop here, because you are never going to convince me that making a fucking 11 year old give birth because of this barbaric, archaic mentality is the morally right thing to do. Youre acting as if this example is much more prevalent than it is. Thats a pretty dishonest method of getting your point across --- Drake the type of dude to gather the Dragon Balls to wish that his ex finds a good man. - KMNL <cite>Deedice posted [p:921929013] in The punish... [t:77716460]...</cite> <quote><cite>jborgan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>jborgan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>jborgan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DevsBro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>Abortion isn't murder.</quote> Yeah it is</quote> No it isn't.</quote> Alabama seems to think so.</quote> Yeah, it's a shame the people behind these bills are such pieces of shit.</quote> It's not a shame at all. People are literally killing a life and getting away with it.</quote> This is going to stop here, because you are never going to convince me that making a fucking 11 year old give birth because of this barbaric, archaic mentality is the morally right thing to do.</quote> Youre acting as if this example is much more prevalent than it is. Thats a pretty dishonest method of getting your point across</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tupacrulez 05/15/19 1:11:20 PM #144:	Imagine actually thinking the penalty for aborting a tumour forced into you by a criminal should be higher than the crime committed upon you. Fuckin Christlovers. --- Suck less, Rock Moar You're straight up right --r4xor <cite>Tupacrulez posted [p:921929045] in The punish... [t:77716460]...</cite> <quote>Imagine actually thinking the penalty for aborting a tumour forced into you by a criminal should be higher than the crime committed upon you. Fuckin Christlovers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IfGodCouldDie 05/15/19 1:11:55 PM #145:	Deedice posted... jborgan posted... People who call it murder aren't worth having a discussion with. Its only worth discussing things with people who think the same as you? Thats really close-minded It has nothing to do with only speaking with people that agree with you, it has more to do with not wasting time with people that refuse to be intellectually honest. For example, I pointed out that a fetus is not a baby because a fetus cannot survive outside the womb. A person that calls abortion murder instead of attempting to refute that point just decided to go off on a tangent about semantics. That is an e ample of how those people work. They don't actually care about having a discussion and want to just plug their ears and ignore everything that is said to them. That is why it's not worth having g a discussion with them. --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:IfGodCouldDie IGN:SuperPattyCakes FC: SW-1615-6159-5504 <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:921929079] in The punish... [t:77716460]...</cite> <quote><cite>Deedice posted...</cite> <quote><cite>jborgan posted...</cite> <quote>People who call it murder aren't worth having a discussion with.</quote> Its only worth discussing things with people who think the same as you? Thats really close-minded</quote> It has nothing to do with only speaking with people that agree with you, it has more to do with not wasting time with people that refuse to be intellectually honest. For example, I pointed out that a fetus is not a baby because a fetus cannot survive outside the womb. A person that calls abortion murder instead of attempting to refute that point just decided to go off on a tangent about semantics. That is an e ample of how those people work. They don't actually care about having a discussion and want to just plug their ears and ignore everything that is said to them. That is why it's not worth having g a discussion with them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Machete 05/15/19 1:13:11 PM #146:	DevsBro posted... hollow_shrine posted... DevsBro posted... Sackgurl posted... they don't care about babies once they're born. Pretty sure even Alabama has laws against infanticide. You know exactly what she meant. Come on, dude. I know what she meant; it just doesn't make sense. This is the only comparison that does make sense, especially considering that we fund born children more than unborn children already. Do you believe that adolescent rape victims who get pregnant need to get better at bootstraps? --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>Machete posted [p:921929126] in The punish... [t:77716460]...</cite> <quote><cite>DevsBro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DevsBro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sackgurl posted...</cite> <quote>they don't care about babies once they're born.</quote> Pretty sure even Alabama has laws against infanticide.</quote> You know exactly what she meant. Come on, dude.</quote> I know what she meant; it just doesn't make sense. This is the only comparison that does make sense, especially considering that we fund born children more than unborn children already.</quote> Do you believe that adolescent rape victims who get pregnant need to get better at bootstraps?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IfGodCouldDie 05/15/19 1:14:11 PM #147:	Deedice posted... Youre acting as if this example is much more prevalent than it is. Thats a pretty dishonest method of getting your point across The fact that it is an example is so abhorrent that it pretty much makes defending the law pretty bad. --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:IfGodCouldDie IGN:SuperPattyCakes FC: SW-1615-6159-5504 <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:921929178] in The punish... [t:77716460]...</cite> <quote><cite>Deedice posted...</cite> <quote>Youre acting as if this example is much more prevalent than it is. Thats a pretty dishonest method of getting your point across</quote> The fact that it is an example is so abhorrent that it pretty much makes defending the law pretty bad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jborgan 05/15/19 1:15:01 PM #148:	Deedice posted... jborgan posted... Youre acting as if this example is much more prevalent than it is. Thats a pretty dishonest method of getting your point across https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ohio-abortion-heartbeat-bill-pregnant-11-year-old-rape-victim-barred-abortion-after-new-ohio-abortion-bill-2019-05-13/ But let's ignore the example completely when it does come up. That's honest, right? --- http://www.last.fm/user/jborgan <cite>jborgan posted [p:921929223] in The punish... [t:77716460]...</cite> <quote><cite>Deedice posted...</cite> <quote><cite>jborgan posted...</cite> Youre acting as if this example is much more prevalent than it is. Thats a pretty dishonest method of getting your point across</quote> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ohio-abortion-heartbeat-bill-pregnant-11-year-old-rape-victim-barred-abortion-after-new-ohio-abortion-bill-2019-05-13/ But let's ignore the example completely when it does come up. That's honest, right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Machete 05/15/19 1:16:05 PM #149:	BigSLM1993 posted... Don't forget some gems coming out of this situation " Republican Senator Clyde Chambliss argued that the ban was still fair to victims of rape and incest because those women would still be allowed to get an abortion "until she knows she's pregnant," a statement that garnered a mixture of groans and cackles from the chamber's gallery. " "With liberal states approving radical late-term and post-birth abortions, Roe must be challenged, and I am proud that Alabama is leading the way," Ainsworth tweeted on Tuesday night." https://tinyurl.com/y682askv Those people need to be locked up in 4 foot by 4 foot sound proof pitch black cells for their entire remaining lives. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>Machete posted [p:921929268] in The punish... [t:77716460]...</cite> <quote><cite>BigSLM1993 posted...</cite> <quote>Don't forget some gems coming out of this situation " Republican Senator Clyde Chambliss argued that the ban was still fair to victims of rape and incest because those women would still be allowed to get an abortion "until she knows she's pregnant," a statement that garnered a mixture of groans and cackles from the chamber's gallery. " "With liberal states approving radical late-term and post-birth abortions, Roe must be challenged, and I am proud that Alabama is leading the way," Ainsworth tweeted on Tuesday night." https://tinyurl.com/y682askv</quote> Those people need to be locked up in 4 foot by 4 foot sound proof pitch black cells for their entire remaining lives.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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