Board 8 > Best of the Trope Season 2: Day 151 - Despair Event Horizon

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GavsEvans123
05/20/19 4:28:04 PM
#1:


Hello everyone, and welcome back to Best of the Trope!

Here are the rules. Each day, I will post a trope from TV Tropes, and each poster can name up to three examples of that trope. Whichever nomination gets the most mentions wins! Posters may also name as many Honourable Mentions as they like, but they are purely optional and will not count towards the running score. You may look at the TV Tropes page for that day's trope for examples, but you do not have to pick all your examples from the page. You can nominate whatever examples you like, as long as they qualify for the trope. Each trope will last around 24 hours before the next one goes up.

Posters may also nominate any tropes they wish to see come up during the series. This is optional, and you don't have to do it every day, or at all. Tropes will be randomly selected from the list each day, except for some occasions where I will pick a thematically appropriate trope that may or may not be on the list.

Here's the list of previous tropes, so if you wish to nominate some tropes, check on here that it wasn't previously done. http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Best_of_the_Trope

Trope List:
Shrinking Violet
Launcher of a Thousand Ships
Even the Girls Want Her
Even the Guys Want Him
Pop-Cultured Badass
Your Soul is Mine
One True Love
Disc-One Nuke
Beef Gate
Crutch Character
A Taste of Power
Magikarp Power
Joke Character
Lethal Joke Character
Difficult, but Awesome
Tier-Induced Scrappy
Stone Wall
Glass Cannon
Lightning Bruiser
Breather Boss
That One Level
Breather Level
Giant Space Flea from Nowhere
Game-Breaker
A*****e Victim
Sudden Sequel Death Syndrome
Evil Cripple
Grand Finale
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GavsEvans123
05/20/19 4:30:36 PM
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The winner of yesterday's trope, Blue-Collar Warlock, was John Constantine (Constantine), who got 9 votes.

Previous winners: Day 126 onwards
Shipper on Deck - Genie ships Aladdin and Jasmine (Aladdin)
Shoo Out the Clowns - Mimir gives Kratos and Atreus privacy to scatter the ashes (God of War) / Half the trolls die (Homestuck)
Disc One Final Dungeon - Zanarkand (Final Fantasy X) / Hyrule Castle (Zelda: A Link to the Past)
Back for the Finale - Miles Edgeworth (Most Ace Attorney games)
The Very Definitely Final Dungeon - Cannon's Core (Sonic Adventure 2)
Redemption Equals Death - Darth Vader (Star Wars) / Theon Greyjoy (Game of Thrones) / Doctor Octopus (Spider-Man 2)
Godzilla Threshold - Operation Zero Dawn (Horizon Zero Dawn) / Crossing the streams (Ghostbusters)
One Winged Angel - Safer Sephiroth (Final Fantasy VII)
11th-Hour Ranger - Sonic the Hedgehog (Super Smash Bros. Brawl)
Informed Poverty - The Simpsons
Post-Climax Confrontation - The Scouring of the Shire (The Lord of the Rings)
Death by Childbirth - Padme (Star Wars)
Defeat Means Friendship - Dragon Ball in general / Scotsman (Samurai Jack)
Elegant Gothic Lolita - Celeste Ludenberg (Danganronpa)
The Turret Master - Engineer (Team Fortress 2)
Shear Menace - Scissorsman (Clock Tower)
Infinity +1 Sword - Ultima Weapon (Kingdom Hearts)
Infinity -1 Sword - Fully Evolved Starters (Pokemon)
Poisonous Person - Poison Ivy (DC Comics)
Too Good for this Sinful Earth - Chiaki Nanami (Danganronpa 2)
That One Boss - Ultra Necrozma (Pokemon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon)
B***h in Sheep's Clothing - Matt Engarde and Dahlia Hawthorne (Ace Attorney)
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GavsEvans123
05/20/19 4:32:55 PM
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Today's trope is Despair Event Horizon. Here is the link: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DespairEventHorizon

The line that, once crossed, destroys any last remaining sense of hope. It could be for a cause, a person, a situation, or simple survival. A character has given up on it, and there is no going back. It can lead soldiers to despair or even suicide, if they don't simply lose the will to live. It can turn an Ideal Hero into an Anti-Hero or an outright villain, or even, in some cases, vice versa. It is a vital element of Tragedy.

Coming near this line is quite common in fiction; frequently, at the end of the second act or the 45 minute mark of a drama or the first hour of a film, the protagonist comes dangerously close to the edge before a Rousing Speech or Deus ex Machina or the like comes along. It makes for a Downer Ending if the protagonist does fall over the edge. Frequently, this is when the What You Are in the Dark test hits him. Alternatively, many stories have a hero "Fighting the Good Fight" and meeting someone who'd been at it longer and lost all hope.

This is often a goal of some wars. Break the enemy's morale, and you can achieve victory even without military success.


TL,DR: The moment when a character loses all hope.

Nominations:
Lucy's dog is murdered by bullies (Elfen Lied)
Sayori gets friendzoned (Doki Doki Literature Club)
Ahsoka leaves the Jedi order (Star Wars: The Clone Wars)
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Snake5555555555
05/20/19 5:24:15 PM
#4:


Tali commits suicide after Shepard wipes out the Quarians (Mass Effect 3)
The entire Downward Spiral album (Nine Inch Nails)
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Buried in a shallow grave, staring death down in the face - Pray it's only a nightmare.
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scarletspeed7
05/20/19 5:26:47 PM
#5:


Someone kills John Wick's dog
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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful
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NFUN
05/20/19 5:32:28 PM
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Rand at Dragonmount, if that counts, Ishamel if it doesn't (Wheel of Time)
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Underleveled
05/20/19 5:47:38 PM
#7:


Harvey realizes Rachel was killed in the blast (The Dark Knight)
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_SecretSquirrel
05/20/19 5:53:47 PM
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Sayori gets friendzoned or confessed to (Doki Doki Literature Club)
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Snake5555555555
05/20/19 6:06:39 PM
#9:


scarletspeed7 posted...
Someone kills John Wick's dog


I'll add on this too
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Buried in a shallow grave, staring death down in the face - Pray it's only a nightmare.
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AvaGames
05/20/19 6:09:43 PM
#10:


Snake5555555555 posted...
scarletspeed7 posted...
Someone kills John Wick's dog


I'll add on this too

Yep.
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Underleveled
05/20/19 6:12:29 PM
#11:


_SecretSquirrel posted...
Sayori gets friendzoned or confessed to (Doki Doki Literature Club)

This too
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Janus5k
05/20/19 6:36:33 PM
#12:


Kuja learns he's going to die (Final Fantasy IX)
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hombad46
05/20/19 6:37:36 PM
#13:


Class 77-B watches Chiaki die (Danganronpa 3 Side:Despair)
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"That's Engarde hairflip metal detector tier btw"
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AvaGames
05/20/19 6:39:12 PM
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hombad46 posted...
Class 77-B watches Chiaki die (Danganronpa 3 Side:Despair)

Why did you not tell me this earlier

Also voting this.

PS: putting in the trope Broken Base.
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_SecretSquirrel
05/20/19 6:43:19 PM
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"The miracle never happen" (Ace Attorney: JFA)
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Johnbobb
05/20/19 7:03:28 PM
#16:


Lucy's dog is murdered by bullies (Elfen Lied)
Nagito remembers who everyone is (Danganronpa 2)
Someone kills John Wick's dog
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KamikazePotato
05/20/19 7:04:43 PM
#17:


NFUN posted...
Rand at Dragonmount, if that counts, Ishamel if it doesn't (Wheel of Time)

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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
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TomNook
05/20/19 7:13:36 PM
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scarletspeed7 posted...
Someone kills John Wick's dog

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paperwarior
05/20/19 7:16:11 PM
#19:


Horrible reality (Night of the Rabbit)
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hombad46
05/20/19 7:40:23 PM
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Johnbobb posted...

Nagito remembers who everyone is (Danganronpa 2)


I'm not really sure I'd count this? He did what he did in the name of hope after all
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DeathChicken
05/20/19 7:40:43 PM
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Sephiroth tells Cloud he's a clone (Final Fantasy 7)
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Pirateking2000
05/20/19 7:48:42 PM
#22:


Surprised it hasn't been voted for yet but:

Griffith sacrifices the Band of Hawk / The Eclipse (Berserk)
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jcgamer107
05/20/19 8:51:22 PM
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Joseph kills a homeless man (Tilt)
Mills shoots John Doe (se7en)
The planet heads back towards Earth (Melancholia)
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hombad46
05/20/19 8:53:06 PM
#24:


Henry Bemis's glasses break (the Twilight Zone)
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Mr Crispy
05/20/19 9:01:56 PM
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the Eclipse (Berserk)
Third Impact (End of Evangelion)
Over Sky ending (Chaos;Child)
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MetalmindStats
05/20/19 9:29:52 PM
#26:


scarletspeed7 posted...
Someone kills John Wick's dog

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GavsEvans123
05/21/19 3:03:14 AM
#27:


Rankings so far:
Someone kills John Wick's dog - 6 votes
Sayori gets friendzoned or confessed to (Doki Doki Literature Club) - 3 votes
Class 77-B watches Chiaki die (Danganronpa 3 Side:Despair) - 2 votes
Lucy's dog is murdered by bullies (Elfen Lied) - 2 votes
Rand at Dragonmount (Wheel of Time) - 2 votes
Ishmael (Wheel of Time) - 2 votes
Griffith sacrifices the Band of Hawk / The Eclipse (Berserk) - 2 votes
Ahsoka leaves the Jedi order (Star Wars: The Clone Wars)
Tali commits suicide after Shepard wipes out the Quarians (Mass Effect 3)
The entire Downward Spiral album (Nine Inch Nails)
Harvey realizes Rachel was killed in the blast (The Dark Knight)
Kuja learns he's going to die (Final Fantasy IX)
"The miracle never happen" (Ace Attorney: JFA)
Nagito remembers who everyone is (Danganronpa 2)
Horrible reality (Night of the Rabbit)
Sephiroth tells Cloud he's a clone (Final Fantasy 7)
Joseph kills a homeless man (Tilt)
Mills shoots John Doe (se7en)
The planet heads back towards Earth (Melancholia)
Henry Bemis's glasses break (the Twilight Zone)
Third Impact (End of Evangelion)
Over Sky ending (Chaos;Child)
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Nanis23
05/21/19 5:04:08 AM
#28:


I reaply don't understand why John Wick is used as an example here and why it's winning. They barely show any signs of despair or losing hope, at least not the first movie

Anyway
Rick after Negan bash the heads of two people in front of him (The Walking Dead)
Class 77-B watches Chiaki die (Danganronpa 3 Side:Despair)
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Hardcore_Adult
05/21/19 7:33:01 AM
#29:


Anakin Skywalker (Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith)
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I'll get back up for good this time and I ain't comin' down...
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KamikazePotato
05/21/19 9:41:20 AM
#30:


Most of these examples are questionable and John Wick definitely doesn't fit this trope
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hombad46
05/21/19 10:11:46 AM
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KamikazePotato posted...
Most of these examples are questionable and John Wick definitely doesn't fit this trope


Okay I haven't actually seen the movie, but from what I hear, it sounds like it's the trigger for a Roaring Rampage of Revenge. So yeah, doesn't exactly sound like despair to me?

As a matter of fact it's the trope picture for Roaring Rampage of Revenge

Edit: Looks like that trope hasn't been done yet so I'll nominate it
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Torlovsk
05/21/19 10:50:18 AM
#32:


The Eclipse (Berserk)
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scarletspeed7
05/21/19 10:52:46 AM
#33:


The description of the trope says that it can turn a hero into an anti-hero, and John Wick takes his actions out of despair and clearly is willing to give up his life not in sacrifice but in reckless abandon in the first movie. He talks about grief pushing him over the edge and the dog being the only thing that was tethering him to normal life.
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hombad46
05/21/19 10:53:20 AM
#34:


Oh wow we've never done one of the most well known tropes?

I nominate...

cliffhanger
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