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YoshitoKikuchi
05/25/19 4:25:43 PM
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tremain07
05/25/19 4:37:32 PM
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Awesome, it's a technology advanced 1984, all they need now is that weird memory washing juice the book had
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friendbuddypal
05/25/19 4:42:45 PM
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This is what you get when you keep empowering the government with no end in sight.
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DarkRoast
05/25/19 4:43:44 PM
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There was literally a Black Mirror episode that predicted this
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brestugo
05/25/19 4:44:35 PM
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Social engineering run amok. Yet people still shit on the streets & elevators in China.
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Fossil
05/25/19 4:46:22 PM
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I'm sure this will help curb suicide rates a lot
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dave_is_slick
05/25/19 4:48:08 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
There was literally a Black Mirror episode that predicted this

Yep, and this is exactly what people were pointing to when calling that one the most realistic one.
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Colorahdo
05/25/19 4:51:03 PM
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I listened to a book on tape about this topic, it's overblown by the US media (surprise)

China had no credit score system before this. There was no way to know who to loan to, and no repercussions for not paying back a loan. It can be abused, sure, but it doesn't work the way the media portrays it.
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friendbuddypal
05/25/19 4:54:49 PM
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Colorahdo posted...
I listened to a book on tape about this topic, it's overblown by the US media (surprise)

China had no credit score system before this. There was no way to know who to loan to, and no repercussions for not paying back a loan. It can be abused, sure, but it doesn't work the way the media portrays it.

Oh so it's just a credit score? And the capitalist pig dog media is lying about it? Great, I was almost worried I'd have to criticize my comrades.
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SpudForce
05/25/19 5:02:51 PM
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The Sun is a trasj tabloid, is there a better source for this? I've learned that Western media have a habit of exaggerating the going ons in China.
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YoshitoKikuchi
05/25/19 5:08:23 PM
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SpudForce posted...
The Sun is a trasj tabloid, is there a better source for this? I've learned that Western media have a habit of exaggerating the going ons in China.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/bernardmarr/2019/01/21/chinese-social-credit-score-utopian-big-data-bliss-or-black-mirror-on-steroids/
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Thompson
05/25/19 5:20:01 PM
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friendbuddypal posted...
This is what you get when you keep empowering the government with no end in sight.

*casts a leery glance at Trump cultists*
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Ricemills
05/25/19 5:23:03 PM
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China has an app that will warn you if there's people with debt nearby.
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EternalDivide
05/25/19 5:24:54 PM
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And yet we want to do business with this country.
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Tsukasa1891
05/25/19 5:41:04 PM
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SpudForce posted...
The Sun is a trasj tabloid, is there a better source for this? I've learned that Western media have a habit of exaggerating the going ons in China.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=China%27s+social+credit&t=h_&ia=news
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s0nicfan
05/25/19 5:42:14 PM
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Colorahdo posted...
I listened to a book on tape about this topic, it's overblown by the US media (surprise)

China had no credit score system before this. There was no way to know who to loan to, and no repercussions for not paying back a loan. It can be abused, sure, but it doesn't work the way the media portrays it.


What book? What author?
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FL81
05/25/19 5:43:12 PM
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DarkRoast
05/25/19 5:43:48 PM
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As someone who lives in China at least a month out of every year, I can promise you China is a far more dystopic surveillance state then you can possibly imagine.
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JE19426
05/25/19 5:44:03 PM
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GiggetySplicer posted...
EU is eyeing this eagerly.


Got a source?
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Fony
05/25/19 5:51:55 PM
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Nosedive is real.
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HiddenLurker
05/25/19 6:01:09 PM
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JE19426 posted...
GiggetySplicer posted...
EU is eyeing this eagerly.


Got a source?

They already monitor the internet for "islamphobia" and "hate speech" and arrest anyone they deem to engage in either...
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JE19426
05/25/19 6:02:03 PM
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HiddenLurker posted...
They already monitor the internet for "islamphobia" and "hate speech" and arrest anyone they deem to engage in either...


Ah, so there is no source.
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HiddenLurker
05/25/19 6:47:15 PM
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JE19426 posted...
HiddenLurker posted...
They already monitor the internet for "islamphobia" and "hate speech" and arrest anyone they deem to engage in either...


Ah, so there is no source.


Three police officers are sent to arrest a woman for mis-gendering a trans person online.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/02/10/police-wasting-time-arresting-twitter-transphobes-could-tackling/amp/

Oh look some teen got charged a hate crime for tweeting some rap lyrics.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-merseyside-43816921

9 people are arrested per day for online trolling.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/police-arresting-nine-people-a-day-in-fight-against-web-trolls-b8nkpgp2d
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DarkRoast
05/25/19 7:03:26 PM
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In China, you can literally wake up and find out that your house will be bulldozed in the next 24 hours. The government will claim it sent you a warning one month ago, and you can contest it in court one month after it's razed.

That kind of thing happens all the time.

They literally have censors who go to message boards and edit people's posts
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ModLogic
05/25/19 7:07:04 PM
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DarkRoast
05/25/19 7:37:44 PM
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ModLogic posted...
so it still sounds better than america


China's government is such a fucked up crime against humanity, it's not even appropriate to joke about.
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kingdrake2
05/25/19 7:40:18 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
ModLogic posted...
so it still sounds better than america


China's government is such a fucked up crime against humanity, it's not even appropriate to joke about.


i believe ya, even watched some fucked up videos on the internet where a kid gets run over and they don't bother to come help (in china). in the US or anywhere i'm sure some people would stop to call 911 or offer some assistance.
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ModLogic
05/25/19 7:42:48 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
ModLogic posted...
so it still sounds better than america


China's government is such a fucked up crime against humanity, it's not even appropriate to joke about.

right and america the one going on about human rights then shutting the fuck up when saudi arabia kills moderates and sells them weapons isnt
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DarkRoast
05/25/19 7:43:57 PM
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kingdrake2 posted...
DarkRoast posted...
ModLogic posted...
so it still sounds better than america


China's government is such a fucked up crime against humanity, it's not even appropriate to joke about.


i believe ya, even watched some fucked up videos on the internet where a kid gets run over and they don't bother to come help (in china). in the US or anywhere i'm sure some people would stop to call 911 or offer some assistance.


That's just the tip of the iceberg. They have been known to force women to have late term abortions because the women couldn't pay the tax penalty for having more than one child.

Also the government gives a lump sum of money to each hospital, and it's basically nothing. If patients can't pay, they're either turned away or their treatment is taken out of the doctor's paycheck.
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fohstick
05/25/19 7:45:14 PM
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sounds cyberpunk AF. China is truly the future
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HiddenLurker
05/25/19 7:49:15 PM
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ModLogic posted...
so it still sounds better than america

This is some insane TDS here to even think China is more open and progressive then America.
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DarkRoast
05/25/19 7:49:41 PM
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Also, in China every citizen has a Hukou (work permit) and it specifies where you can work. Get a Hukou out in the xiangxia (ghetto countryside)? You're fucked for life. And they can revoke your Hukou and it's literally illegal for people to hire you.
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Suchomimus
05/25/19 7:50:20 PM
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Can't wait until the far left welcomes this sort of policy here in the US.
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Mister_Spyker
05/25/19 7:52:18 PM
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This is what happens when countries grow up without christianity to give a it a moral backbone
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DarkRoast
05/25/19 7:53:07 PM
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Once your Hukou is assigned, it can never be changed. They assign you a location based on where the government thinks they need the most help. So either you bribe your local official and get a Shanghai Hukou, or you get assigned to the ass crack of nowhere. And you have to work there the rest of your life.
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ModLogic
05/25/19 7:54:20 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
You're fucked for life.

not so different to being born in america and shot by cops or end up in prison for having a different skin tone
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DarkRoast
05/25/19 7:55:21 PM
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ModLogic posted...
DarkRoast posted...
You're fucked for life.

not so different to being born in america and shot by cops or end up in prison for having a different skin tone


You don't get shot by cops in China. You literally disappear to the point where your own family claims they never had a child / husband / etc.

Shit I wish I was making this up.
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KamenRiderBlade
05/25/19 8:07:53 PM
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kingdrake2 posted...
i believe ya, even watched some fucked up videos on the internet where a kid gets run over and they don't bother to come help (in china). in the US or anywhere i'm sure some people would stop to call 911 or offer some assistance
Actually, it's financially cheaper in China to Run over and kill a pedestrian then keep them alive and pay for their medical bills.

https://www.pri.org/stories/2011-06-03/china-economics-killing-someone

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/2123499/chinese-driver-who-hit-nine-year-old-car-killed-her-avoid-high

https://www.businessinsider.com/in-china-drivers-would-rather-kill-than-injure-2015-9

There's a reason why running over a person and killing them with a car is so common.

They usually backup multiple times to make sure they kill them good, then run away!.
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DarkRoast
05/25/19 8:09:28 PM
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China is probably the most depressing place in Earth. At least North Korea is an unsustainable hellhole.
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KamenRiderBlade
05/25/19 8:10:14 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
China is probably the most depressing place in Earth. At least North Korea is an unsustainable hellhole.
China should be #2 right behind North Korea.
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KamenRiderBlade
05/25/19 8:11:43 PM
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Suchomimus posted...
Can't wait until the far left welcomes this sort of policy here in the US.
::The Leftists will hand you their cup of coffee, and tell you they can come up with a more nightmarish system!::
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KamenRiderBlade
05/25/19 8:14:33 PM
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HiddenLurker posted...
JE19426 posted...
HiddenLurker posted...
They already monitor the internet for "islamphobia" and "hate speech" and arrest anyone they deem to engage in either...


Ah, so there is no source.


Three police officers are sent to arrest a woman for mis-gendering a trans person online.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/02/10/police-wasting-time-arresting-twitter-transphobes-could-tackling/amp/

Oh look some teen got charged a hate crime for tweeting some rap lyrics.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-merseyside-43816921

9 people are arrested per day for online trolling.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/police-arresting-nine-people-a-day-in-fight-against-web-trolls-b8nkpgp2d
What a waste of very limited police resources.
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DarkRoast
05/25/19 8:15:01 PM
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China has so many police, believe me they need stuff to do.
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KamenRiderBlade
05/25/19 8:16:04 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
China has so many police, believe me they need stuff to do.
That's where the "Power" is and you're safer being a cop then being in most other jobs.

Being a cop in China is literally being the jack booted thugs for the CCP (Chinese Communist Party).
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ModLogic
05/25/19 8:18:22 PM
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KamenRiderBlade posted...
DarkRoast posted...
China is probably the most depressing place in Earth. At least North Korea is an unsustainable hellhole.
China should be #2 right behind North Korea.

you mean number 3 after US and NK
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KamenRiderBlade
05/25/19 8:38:04 PM
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ModLogic posted...
you mean number 3 after US and NK
You can go live in China if you love it so much.

Don't let the door hit you in the arse on the way out!
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Vyrulisse
05/25/19 8:41:20 PM
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ModLogic posted...
KamenRiderBlade posted...
DarkRoast posted...
China is probably the most depressing place in Earth. At least North Korea is an unsustainable hellhole.
China should be #2 right behind North Korea.

you mean number 3 after US and NK

You should stop, your naive ignorance is on full display.
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ModLogic
05/25/19 8:49:30 PM
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KamenRiderBlade
05/25/19 8:56:55 PM
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ModLogic posted...
lol ironic coming from people that cant see US for what it is
Holds Mirror to your face, the same can be said about what you can't seem to see as well and what you're mis-interpreting based on bad info & personal bias.
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