Current Events > Can someone explain to me why Ellen Pao finds this email offensive?

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CruelBuffalo
05/27/19 3:51:47 PM
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https://twitter.com/ekp/status/1133095152698847232
Ive said similar things about males as well so is this a gender reason shes upset? A culture reason?
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ultimate reaver
05/27/19 3:53:50 PM
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Why would you say similar things about males? That's such a backhanded compliment and implies you're basically expecting them to be a coward
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Zikten
05/27/19 3:55:10 PM
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I don't know what she is talking about
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CruelBuffalo
05/27/19 3:57:20 PM
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ultimate reaver posted...
Why would you say similar things about males? That's such a backhanded compliment and implies you're basically expecting them to be a coward

Not to their face so thats true. But I have given compliments about prospective hires for looking at everyone during group interviews and shaded a rude af consultant who wouldnt look at me when i spoke to him but only the vp
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Prestoff
05/27/19 3:57:27 PM
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Zikten posted...
I don't know what she is talking about


Me neither.
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Hinakuluiau
05/27/19 4:00:51 PM
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Zikten posted...
I don't know what she is talking about

Ellen Pao spoke to a group of people made up with men and women. A female founder was happy that Pao made eye contact with her.
The idea is that for a lot of people, when they're presenting to a mixed group they tend to look at the men more than the women. Pao is highlighting this issue because it's a simple one to fix that isn't asking much from people.
People who are upset with her tend to think that their experiences trump that of the many women who feel ignored in mixed groups.
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Solar_Crimson
05/27/19 4:01:34 PM
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Ellen Pao did nothing wrong
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CruelBuffalo
05/27/19 4:02:27 PM
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Hinakuluiau posted...
Zikten posted...
I don't know what she is talking about

Ellen Pao spoke to a group of people made up with men and women. A female founder was happy that Pao made eye contact with her.
The idea is that for a lot of people, when they're presenting to a mixed group they tend to look at the men more than the women. Pao is highlighting this issue because it's a simple one to fix that isn't asking much from people.
People who are upset with her tend to think that their experiences trump that of the many women who feel ignored in mixed groups.
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Prestoff
05/27/19 4:09:03 PM
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Hinakuluiau posted...
Zikten posted...
I don't know what she is talking about

Ellen Pao spoke to a group of people made up with men and women. A female founder was happy that Pao made eye contact with her.
The idea is that for a lot of people, when they're presenting to a mixed group they tend to look at the men more than the women. Pao is highlighting this issue because it's a simple one to fix that isn't asking much from people.
People who are upset with her tend to think that their experiences trump that of the many women who feel ignored in mixed groups.


Okay thank you, now it makes sense. I thought she was bitching about people making eye contact with her or something. I mean it is kind of true, it's the men investors that tend to have the most money, even my old accounting firm told me to pay more attention to the big money over the others when it came to presentations. I never listened to them and never gave those "big whales" preferential treatment (I mean you can see why I don't work there anymore).
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CanuckCowboy
05/27/19 4:10:46 PM
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I think you have to personally hold weird views to be able to find that offensive.
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CruelBuffalo
05/27/19 4:12:56 PM
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CanuckCowboy posted...
I think you have to personally hold weird views to be able to find that offensive.

Read what the other user poster. It makes much more sense and I would agree with Ellen. I just thought she was upset at the person doing the thanking
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