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toyota
05/28/19 6:59:14 AM
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I remembered it was pretty debatable when goku was only super saiyan, but now he has SSGSSKKX20 and UI up his sleeve.
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Dark_Garioshi
05/28/19 7:02:14 AM
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Depends on which Superman you're talking about
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Zikten
05/28/19 7:04:21 AM
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No. I will always be team Superman. People just do not realize that Superman is THAT overpowered. Call me when Goku is able to fly out of a black hole. If you know about black holes then you know how insane that is

There was a story once where Superman was in a black hole for some reason and he meets some old lost superhero stuck inside. That guy tells Superman to give up and he's fucked and just accept it and Superman said "to hell with that. Fuck this black hole" and he just...... leaves

Because when you are Superman, Physics is your bitch
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Ic3Bullet
05/28/19 7:04:25 AM
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Well since Charlie Puth has confirmed in his song that Superman got nothing on me, the real contest now is Goku vs Charlie Puth.
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Modifier
05/28/19 7:04:58 AM
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Depends on who gets to write the story, really.
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Lairen
05/28/19 7:06:52 AM
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No ones ever sided with Goku on this.....
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sLaCkEr408___RJ
05/28/19 7:09:43 AM
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Goku can use Solar Flare and Destructo Disc.

Wait if Superman gets power from the sun, will Solar Flare make him stronger?
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BipBapBam
05/28/19 7:12:34 AM
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Zikten posted...
No. I will always be team Superman. People just do not realize that Superman is THAT overpowered. Call me when Goku is able to fly out of a black hole. If you know about black holes then you know how insane that is

There was a story once where Superman was in a black hole for some reason and he meets some old lost superhero stuck inside. That guy tells Superman to give up and he's fucked and just accept it and Superman said "to hell with that. Fuck this black hole" and he just...... leaves

Because when you are Superman, Physics is your bitch

Goku already tanked and overpowered a black hole, and that was just in Blue, not even UI.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8w67fxrmbsc" data-time="

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Modifier
05/28/19 7:14:36 AM
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sLaCkEr408___RJ posted...
Goku can use Solar Flare and Destructo Disc.

Wait if Superman gets power from the sun, will Solar Flare make him stronger?

I believe Hakai (destruction) is now Goku's most powerful move. Basically, it erases stuff from existence.
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sLaCkEr408___RJ
05/28/19 7:15:00 AM
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BipBapBam posted...
Zikten posted...
No. I will always be team Superman. People just do not realize that Superman is THAT overpowered. Call me when Goku is able to fly out of a black hole. If you know about black holes then you know how insane that is

There was a story once where Superman was in a black hole for some reason and he meets some old lost superhero stuck inside. That guy tells Superman to give up and he's fucked and just accept it and Superman said "to hell with that. Fuck this black hole" and he just...... leaves

Because when you are Superman, Physics is your bitch

Goku already tanked and overpowered a black hole, and that was just in Blue, not even UI.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8w67fxrmbsc" data-time="

Why didn't instant transmission work
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im not 13
05/28/19 7:17:15 AM
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Goku is stronger than the gods of destruction... literal gods

How does Superman debunk that
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sLaCkEr408___RJ
05/28/19 7:19:25 AM
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im not 13 posted...
Goku is stronger than the gods of destruction... literal gods

How does Superman debunk that

Kami was God. King Yemma. North Kai. Supreme Kai. All God.

Beerus and Zemo are now considered God.

What does that even mean
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Modifier
05/28/19 7:21:57 AM
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sLaCkEr408___RJ posted...
im not 13 posted...
Goku is stronger than the gods of destruction... literal gods

How does Superman debunk that

Kami was God. King Yemma. North Kai. Supreme Kai. All God.

Beerus and Zemo are now considered God.

What does that even mean

God rankings. It exists in the DCU as well.
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boxington
05/28/19 7:23:12 AM
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I remember something about Superman benching the weight of the Earth

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idk if Goku has done anything close to that, but I haven't followed DBZ/S for a long time
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ssjevot
05/28/19 7:24:56 AM
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Weird people mention Superman defying physics when Goku and others are already traveling faster than light.
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boxington
05/28/19 7:32:01 AM
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can't Superman travel faster than light, too?
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Shadowplay
05/28/19 7:32:30 AM
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Weird that people never mention whether they're talking about pre-Crisis or post-Crisis Superman and deemphasize or ignore the cartoonishly extreme feats pulled off by characters much weaker than Goku. It's almost as if most of the people arguing for Superman have no idea what they're talking about and continue to argue for him because he's a more iconic character.

Honestly, a more interesting match-up would be Dr. Manhattan vs Goku. Or Morpheus vs Goku.
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tri sapphire
05/28/19 7:42:26 AM
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Shadowplay posted...
Honestly, a more interesting match-up would be Dr. Manhattan vs Goku. Or Morpheus vs Goku.

No, because that would be an instant loss for Goku.

Manhattan can already go from nothing to existence, and both can bypass Goku's defenses. Morpheus can't really be destroyed unless all life dies out first; Goku can't kill a concept.
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Dark_Garioshi
05/28/19 4:17:33 PM
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Shadowplay posted...
Honestly, a more interesting match-up would be Dr. Manhattan vs Goku

Goku literally cannot win
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IHeartRadiation
05/28/19 4:33:25 PM
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I can agree that scaling this shit to try and make sense has always been one of the dumbest ways to waste one's time ever.
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ssjevot
05/28/19 7:04:53 PM
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Hairistotle posted...
I'm unfamiliar with Super but Superman's upper limits are pretty nutso. How does Hakai work?


Point the palm of your hand at something. Say Hakai. That thing is now erased from existence. Even gods.
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AlisLandale
05/28/19 7:08:47 PM
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ssjevot posted...
Hairistotle posted...
I'm unfamiliar with Super but Superman's upper limits are pretty nutso. How does Hakai work?


Point the palm of your hand at something. Say Hakai. That thing is now erased from existence. Even gods.


This sounds like a weaker version of Darkseids Omega Beams, which have always been a problem but Superman still exists so...

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WavyNoobSauce
05/28/19 7:18:51 PM
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BipBapBam posted...
Zikten posted...
No. I will always be team Superman. People just do not realize that Superman is THAT overpowered. Call me when Goku is able to fly out of a black hole. If you know about black holes then you know how insane that is

There was a story once where Superman was in a black hole for some reason and he meets some old lost superhero stuck inside. That guy tells Superman to give up and he's fucked and just accept it and Superman said "to hell with that. Fuck this black hole" and he just...... leaves

Because when you are Superman, Physics is your bitch

Goku already tanked and overpowered a black hole, and that was just in Blue, not even UI.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8w67fxrmbsc" data-time="

DB fanboys are so trash lol. Just because it's called "Pretty Black Hole" doesn't make it a black hole. Is Vegeta firing actual Big Bangs every time he uses his move too?
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ssjevot
05/29/19 12:23:11 AM
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Hairistotle posted...
ssjevot posted...
Hairistotle posted...
I'm unfamiliar with Super but Superman's upper limits are pretty nutso. How does Hakai work?


Point the palm of your hand at something. Say Hakai. That thing is now erased from existence. Even gods.

Yes but there are of course exceptions, otherwise what is stopping anyone who can do it from dominating everything?


Well the Gods of Destruction generally don't have anyone stopping them. That's what makes everyone so scared when they show up. The only thing they're scared of is Zenousama since he can destroy all of creation in an instant if he feels like it. But it's also important to keep in mind Dragon Ball is a comedy series as well as an action series. You can't treat these characters too seriously.
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mooreandrew58
05/29/19 12:25:41 AM
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Modifier posted...
sLaCkEr408___RJ posted...
im not 13 posted...
Goku is stronger than the gods of destruction... literal gods

How does Superman debunk that

Kami was God. King Yemma. North Kai. Supreme Kai. All God.

Beerus and Zemo are now considered God.

What does that even mean

God rankings. It exists in the DCU as well.


I own a comic where superman upercuts a greek god and sends him pretty far away Far enough away said god didnt return till much later to try and get his vengence. (And even then by just aiding zod instead of directly confronting supes) this is also new 52 superman whom I believe was nerferd compared to other versions.

Also darkseid is a literal god too. God of chaos or destruction I forget. Much harder fight for supes but he beats him.
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mooreandrew58
05/29/19 12:28:20 AM
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mooreandrew58 posted...
Modifier posted...
sLaCkEr408___RJ posted...
im not 13 posted...
Goku is stronger than the gods of destruction... literal gods

How does Superman debunk that

Kami was God. King Yemma. North Kai. Supreme Kai. All God.

Beerus and Zemo are now considered God.

What does that even mean

God rankings. It exists in the DCU as well.


I own a comic where superman upercuts a greek god and sends him pretty far away Far enough away said god didnt return till much later to try and get his vengence. (And even then by just aiding zod instead of directly confronting supes) this is also new 52 superman whom I believe was nerferd compared to other versions.

Also darkseid is a literal god too. God of chaos or destruction I forget. Much harder fight for supes but he beats him.


Supes was pretty cocky too before he uppercuted Apollo. Asked him you are a god right thats not just fancy title? When Apollo said yes supes just says good and rocks his jaw. Basically wanted to gage how hard he should hit since he doesnt kill.
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MrK3V
05/29/19 12:29:14 AM
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how goku gonna beat cosmic armor superman
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OffTempo
05/29/19 12:30:41 AM
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The only substantial new techniques that Goku has learned would be Hakai and Ultra Instinct.

Hakai is technique that only Gods of Destruction are supposed to have in which they erase someone from existence.

Ultra Instinct allows one to avoid every attack and have their body react without thinking.

That being said UI was also taken away from Goku at the end of Super. Also Hakai isn't a technique that Goku has perfected or even regularly uses in his arsenal so I'm not sure if much would change in Goku vs Superman.
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The_Ivory_Man
05/29/19 12:31:26 AM
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WavyNoobSauce posted...
BipBapBam posted...
Zikten posted...
No. I will always be team Superman. People just do not realize that Superman is THAT overpowered. Call me when Goku is able to fly out of a black hole. If you know about black holes then you know how insane that is

There was a story once where Superman was in a black hole for some reason and he meets some old lost superhero stuck inside. That guy tells Superman to give up and he's fucked and just accept it and Superman said "to hell with that. Fuck this black hole" and he just...... leaves

Because when you are Superman, Physics is your bitch

Goku already tanked and overpowered a black hole, and that was just in Blue, not even UI.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8w67fxrmbsc" data-time="

DB fanboys are so trash lol. Just because it's called "Pretty Black Hole" doesn't make it a black hole. Is Vegeta firing actual Big Bangs every time he uses his move too?


"Not even light can escape from this"

It's equivalent at least.Shadowplay posted...

Honestly, a more interesting match-up would be Dr. Manhattan vs Goku


There is not a single way Goku would win.

Goku might be the most powerful pure brick, but he has no "hax" abilities, so he just loses to people like that.

New arc in Super manga has a magic villain seal away his ability to go SSJ and he gets stomped.

sLaCkEr408___RJ posted...
Goku can use Solar Flare and Destructo Disc.

Wait if Superman gets power from the sun, will Solar Flare make him stronger?


Solar Flare is just light. It's not actual solar energy.
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TeaMilk
05/29/19 12:32:25 AM
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SH_expert44
05/29/19 12:39:16 AM
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Shadowplay posted...

Honestly, a more interesting match-up would be Dr. Manhattan vs Goku.

How would that be interesting in the slightest? A complete more than one sided "fight" where Goku goes all out and does nothing to Dr. Manhattan until he gets bored and poofs goku into atoms?
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CM_Ponch
05/29/19 4:31:53 AM
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Superman is as strong as the story needs him to be.
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Webmaster4531
05/29/19 4:44:55 AM
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OffTempo posted...
The only substantial new techniques that Goku has learned would be Hakai and Ultra Instinct.

You're forgetting that Kaioken Blue was fast enough to move and perceive in a time skip, whatever that means.

Seems a lot like a DC speedster feat.

Also in Dragonball S Broly you see similar visuals also hinting at extreme speed or going near 4th dimensional.
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LiqiudusSnake
05/29/19 5:24:57 AM
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Superman will always win. No matter what
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mooreandrew58
05/29/19 5:45:01 AM
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LiqiudusSnake posted...
Superman will always win. No matter what


Even if on the grounds goku would likely let him go hibernate in the sun for a year just cause He wants a good fight.
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