Board 8 > Wwe mafia Topic 1. Welcome to Survivor Series!

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I should add that Scumcorrik cleared me as town last game. And I really should have asked him back then why he did it.
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...actually I do remember him giving a reason, that I wasnt hiding behind timezones.
I presume thats not his reason for calling me scum this game.
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Without detail.

My role pm mentions a face and a heel and tells me which one I am.

So I don't get this "gotcha".
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Movie time.

Feel free to unvote me at any time.
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Death what do you think about what I said about sbell
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Damnit sbell why did you have to ninja me with that
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Okay, that was twice the answer I was expecting.
I thought you were going to say "My PM mentions face and that combined with the miller pm made me realize the opponents teams are heels"

Doesnt tell me much either way, but I can buy it.
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ScareChan posted...

Death what do you think about what I said about sbell

Was trying very hard to not say anything, as you noted.
Didnt want to give sbell excuses before he showed up again.
But now I can say that I didnt think it was a slip.
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Panthera posted...

Pezlo (I think you're the one person in this game I've never played with, or even heard of before), what gave you your town read on Corrik?

First just call me Pez.

Corrik has done two things that ring of town trying to be helpful but is actually bad for town. He tunnel visioned on MZero. MZero could definitely be scum. He could also be town. Corrik was happy to lead a bandwagon on him and seemed ok with ending day early. This is a typical town I think I have scum pegged move.

The second thing that makes him likely town was declaring that SBell isn't town power. It sounds helpful because it sounds like town discovering information will help towards the knowledge imbalance we have. But it's actually unhelpful. Town should never speculate on what the role of a person is unless forced or trying to trick scum. The latter is very inadvisable unless you're particularly skilled.

Both of those things together sound like a town person trying their best even if I think their moves are wrong.
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Isnt it a bit early to call something a tunnel?
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htaeD posted...

Okay, that was twice the answer I was expecting.
I thought you were going to say "My PM mentions face and that combined with the miller pm made me realize the opponents teams are heels"

Doesnt tell me much either way, but I can buy it.

I'm curious, why do you think this is what he'd say?
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htaeD posted...

Okay, that was twice the answer I was expecting.
I thought you were going to say "My PM mentions face and that combined with the miller pm made me realize the opponents teams are heels"

Doesnt tell me much either way, but I can buy it.

Death is scum. Town PM's mention both heel and face as opposing sides.
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Choo choo choo. Death didn't know that. Choo choo choo.
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Jesus Corrik, read the room.
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I am ready to end today. Should I shoot death and be done with it?
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Corrik7 posted...

htaeD posted...

Okay, that was twice the answer I was expecting.
I thought you were going to say "My PM mentions face and that combined with the miller pm made me realize the opponents teams are heels"

Doesnt tell me much either way, but I can buy it.

Death is scum. Town PM's mention both heel and face as opposing sides.

Pretty sure that Death was implying he was trying to get SBell to say the opposite.
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Any possible gleaming we could've done with the play Scare has been making is now moot, with you jumping the gun so quickly. So many other people could've posted and given us insight into them.
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Oh silly me
I didnt see the heel team mention in the PM
I just gloss over that sentence usually
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pezloco posted...

Corrik7 posted...

htaeD posted...

Okay, that was twice the answer I was expecting.
I thought you were going to say "My PM mentions face and that combined with the miller pm made me realize the opponents teams are heels"

Doesnt tell me much either way, but I can buy it.

Death is scum. Town PM's mention both heel and face as opposing sides.

Pretty sure that Death was implying he was trying to get SBell to say the opposite.

Pretty sure death would have responded quite differently if that were the case. He is scum.
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pezloco posted...

Corrik7 posted...

htaeD posted...

Okay, that was twice the answer I was expecting.
I thought you were going to say "My PM mentions face and that combined with the miller pm made me realize the opponents teams are heels"

Doesnt tell me much either way, but I can buy it.

Death is scum. Town PM's mention both heel and face as opposing sides.

Pretty sure that Death was implying he was trying to get SBell to say the opposite.

Boy I wish I was that clever
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So Pez, based on what you say about Corrik and your post 59 when you kind of explained how you think the game should be played as town (which is why I ask, because you already seemed to address him as town that early on), I'm curious as to how much you know about him. Do you know his play style and how much experience he has in mafia or is he largely unknown to you?

Onto this SBell thing, I thought that the opening flavour plus MZero's post was enough to make the face/heel split obvious anyway even before him saying his PM explained it, which also adds up. I think Scare was being legit in picking on it anyway, though one thing bothers me. Scare, you quoted a Han post about SBell to get hype over him helping lynch SBell with you. In that post, Han said he thought there was enough context for anyone to figure out the face/heel thing regardless because he thought SBell was playing up a lack of knowledge to look better. Did you not think it was odd that Han was thinking SBell looked scummy for acting like he couldn't figure out the face/heel split when your idea was that SBell wouldn't have been able to know the flavour split without being scum?
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Corrik7 posted...

htaeD posted...

Okay, that was twice the answer I was expecting.
I thought you were going to say "My PM mentions face and that combined with the miller pm made me realize the opponents teams are heels"

Doesnt tell me much either way, but I can buy it.

Death is scum. Town PM's mention both heel and face as opposing sides.

htaeD posted...

Oh silly me
I didnt see the heel team mention in the PM
I just gloss over that sentence usually

Death is confirmed Town now.
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Okay, Death. You should claim. You are pretty dead in the water.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Any possible gleaming we could've done with the play Scare has been making is now moot, with you jumping the gun so quickly. So many other people could've posted and given us insight into them.

who is this talking too?
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htaeD posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Any possible gleaming we could've done with the play Scare has been making is now moot, with you jumping the gun so quickly. So many other people could've posted and given us insight into them.

who is this talking too?

obviously Corrik
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Han probably scum also. Defending Death's fuck up.
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I actually dont feel like claiming, Corrik.
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Corrik7 posted...

Han probably scum also. Defending Death's fuck up.

You didn't mention how face and heel are mentioned in our PM's. Death did.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Han probably scum also. Defending Death's fuck up.

You didn't mention how face and heel are mentioned in our PM's. Death did.

What the literal hell are you talking about
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Retracting Death being confirmed Town though because Scum almost assuredly have the same victory conditions sentence as Town do, just with teams reversed.
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htaeD posted...

I actually dont feel like claiming, Corrik.

Well, I can only use my shot within the first 24 hours of the game if I am reading my pm right, so tough luck.
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Corrik7 posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Han probably scum also. Defending Death's fuck up.

You didn't mention how face and heel are mentioned in our PM's. Death did.

What the literal hell are you talking about

Read the posts I quoted.
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To be fair, I think corriks post came first

See what I was at first thinking was that Sbells heel mention showed up in the flavor, not in the usual sentence at the end.
And I dont think I can go much more into detail about a role PM than that.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Death is scum. Town PM's mention both heel and face as opposing sides.

htaeD posted...

Oh silly me
I didnt see the heel team mention in the PM
I just gloss over that sentence usually

Death is confirmed Town now.

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You can just use the English language like a human being. You make no sense. If ur too good for everyone and the world then go play mafia with a mirror instead of with us lowly humans.
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I will be honest I didn't see heel in my PM at first either when I started on sbell but double checked and saw it did mention it and tried to turn it around on death

So I can buy not seeing it
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Corrik7 posted...

htaeD posted...

I actually dont feel like claiming, Corrik.

Well, I can only use my shot within the first 24 hours of the game if I am reading my pm right, so tough luck.

You know why I find this hard to believe.
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SBell's response was not detailed enough to give surefire information and Corrik blowing his load so fast has made following up on that moot.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Death is scum. Town PM's mention both heel and face as opposing sides.

htaeD posted...

Oh silly me
I didnt see the heel team mention in the PM
I just gloss over that sentence usually

Death is confirmed Town now.

Yeah, he looked at their example pm after he said that and got caught. Who cares.
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Han is my Mason for real this time
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Pez u are hella silent right now.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Retracting Death being confirmed Town though because Scum almost assuredly have the same victory conditions sentence as Town do, just with teams reversed.

If anything this just disproves Corrik from another angle!
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Corrik7 posted...

Okay, Death. You should claim. You are pretty dead in the water.

No claims D1

@Panthera I don't know Corrik at all. I'm basing my read on a typical player. Those types of moves I've described are typically town. That's good enough for me D1
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Corrik7 posted...

Yeah, he looked at their example pm after he said that and got caught. Who cares.

Scum get role pms too, Corrik.

Though admittedly I would have missed it as scum too.
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Corrik7 posted...

Pez u are hella silent right now.

I told you an hour ago I'm at church.
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Oh pez. I wish we still did the no claims on day1 thing
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pezloco posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Okay, Death. You should claim. You are pretty dead in the water.

No claims D1

@Panthera I don't know Corrik at all. I'm basing my read on a typical player. Those types of moves I've described are typically town. That's good enough for me D1

I assure you there will be claims day 1 because my role only works day 1 and someone is going to be the one who is the target of it.

So you can try that schtick all day, but there will be claims.
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Kinda rude to give that ability and then start the day 12 hours early
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I am Braun Strowman, Town Gladiator.

I play by my own rules. Gotta tag myself in within the first 24 hours and take control myself for my big entrance.

Yadda yadda.

So someone is going down.

Death...
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Corrik7 posted...

pezloco posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Okay, Death. You should claim. You are pretty dead in the water.

No claims D1

@Panthera I don't know Corrik at all. I'm basing my read on a typical player. Those types of moves I've described are typically town. That's good enough for me D1

I assure you there will be claims day 1 because my role only works day 1 and someone is going to be the one who is the target of it.

So you can try that schtick all day, but there will be claims.

If you truly have a dayvig role that only works D1, don't use it. Town doesn't need power to win. We need to be smart and united, or close enough to it.
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