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Malfunction
06/06/19 6:52:42 AM
#103:


Conflict posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/community/TrollSlayer11

He went all out and flamed the LUE userbase. lol

I don't get why they keep only warning his main for actual holocaust denial but then suspending his alt for flaming people
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andel
06/06/19 10:54:13 AM
#105:


Conflict posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/community/TrollSlayer11

He went all out and flamed the LUE userbase. lol


is there a link to the topic?
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andel
06/06/19 11:03:57 AM
#106:


also its frankly amazing that muffin and rod can still be melting down months at a time
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Kaliesto
06/06/19 11:54:36 AM
#107:


Conflict posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/community/TrollLUE11

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PatrickMahomes
06/06/19 12:05:36 PM
#108:


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Kaliesto
06/06/19 12:13:09 PM
#109:


PatrickMahomes posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/community/WARNEDfunction

WARNED

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Machete
06/06/19 1:14:40 PM
#110:


inloveanddeath0 is also warned (was flaming a lot)
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_Matchabuu_
06/06/19 1:16:09 PM
#111:


waiting
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FigureOfSpeech
06/06/19 3:09:52 PM
#112:


Machete seems to have been accidentally warned by a moderator who misinterpreted something I said :/

Hopefully my clarification will get that sorted out.

Edit: lol apparently this account is about to level up. How random.
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Gafemage
06/06/19 7:23:04 PM
#113:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/community/seqntenialbeast

Checked to see if this account was still in Purgatory & I guess it got suspended again already
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FigureOfSpeech
06/06/19 7:37:31 PM
#114:


Gafemage posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/community/seqntenialbeast

Checked to see if this account was still in Purgatory & I guess it got suspended again already


Good. That user annoys me.
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Gafemage
06/06/19 7:43:31 PM
#115:


FigureOfSpeech posted...
Gafemage posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/community/seqntenialbeast

Checked to see if this account was still in Purgatory & I guess it got suspended again already

Good. That user annoys me.

All one-note gimmick accounts deserve the axe imho. But that one in particular is one of the worst
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TennTux
06/06/19 8:37:25 PM
#116:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/community/Machete

Warned
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_Matchabuu_
06/06/19 8:40:22 PM
#117:


TennTux posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/community/Machete

Warned


D: noooo
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PrincessCadance
06/06/19 8:41:30 PM
#118:


TennTux posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/community/Machete

Warned


Who tattled on him and why? He doesn't tipically lose his cool.
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TennTux
06/06/19 8:42:52 PM
#119:


@FigureOfSpeech what happened?
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FigureOfSpeech
06/06/19 9:34:44 PM
#120:


PrincessCadance posted...
TennTux posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/community/Machete

Warned


Who tattled on him and why? He doesn't tipically lose his cool.


I didn't lose my cool. A moderator misunderstood a post. To be fair, I could have done a better job of choosing my words. If I had thought to include even a brief summary of what I ended up typing for my dispute, (as a disclaimer in my post), it would have been avoided. I didn't however because I didn't think I would be misinterpreted so I didn't have that pumping the breaks reflex that I have that gets me thinking "maybe I should include a disclaimer for the mods so they don't get the wrong idea." I stated an opinion that I knew to be biased on a quote that was said to be fake, but I also recognized that many were saying the quote was fake and wanted to imply the possibility that I was wrong without having to admit that the quote (which I had never seen before and stated that in the post) was likely fake. The moderator took it as "you knew it was fake and you said you would call it real anyway and that is blatant trolling." They were not wrong about how doing that is trolling, but they were wrong in assuming that's what I was doing. If I show bias by believing a quote is real if it is fake without launching a formal investigation into it, that means I'm wrong and I'm human. It doesn't mean I'm trolling. I also had a fake trolling moderation in my history from before they fixed the dispute system that made it a warning instead of some lower thing. It should be overturned, but even if it isn't, there will be much to learn about the new dispute system, how it works and whether or not it should be further reviewed and adjusted. The purpose of it is essentially in how a user pleas their case and idea is that a solid and strong case will earn the votes to overturn. My case is airtight and I don't see how I could have made it any stronger, as it is true and reinforced by portions of the moderated post itself (the other portions, I admit, I should have worded differently, but poor wording leading to a single moderator getting the wrong idea is not trolling, and this speaks to the nature of how trolling is even defined and how it can be proven).

It is not a black and white issue like flaming. If you name call, it's a flame. People argue over this all the time but it is clear cut and it is defined. Trolling is more nuanced and I know for a fact that the mod staff is feeling it out currently. The baseline is not established. The experiment is not one with an established control group. For a long time, trolling has gone under the radar and now it's essentially spray and pray until they can lock down a concrete system for establishing exactly what it means and how it should be approached. If I was actually saying what the moderator assumed I was saying, I would be guilty. It was not, however, what I was actually saying and prior to the dispute update, no difference would have been made because posts such as mine were always no actioned. I explained all of this in my dispute and if the dispute update is what it has been claimed to be, I will get the overturn that I deserve. It will speak to how trolling as a violation is handled in general, but that is a good thing either way. It offers valuable information, whether they acknowledge the truth or double down. I am disappointed, but I believe it to be a blessing in disguise that provides valuable insight to all and if we better understand how trolling is handled, we can cut down on it, which benefits us and also makes the job of the mods easier, so a win-win. If it is upheld, which should not be the case under any circumstancea but is a possibility, I'm taking one for the team and I will have to make peace with that. However, as already stated, the information provided is far more valuable to the user base and mod staff both than my 5 or 10 or however many karma points I would be robbed of in the process.
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Kaliesto
06/06/19 9:35:02 PM
#121:


FigureOfSpeech posted...
Gafemage posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/community/seqntenialbeast

Checked to see if this account was still in Purgatory & I guess it got suspended again already


Good. That user annoys me.


And now he is sitting on the angry chair.
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TennTux
06/06/19 9:57:40 PM
#122:


Holy wall of text Batman lol. You need paragraphs
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FigureOfSpeech
06/06/19 10:03:40 PM
#123:


TennTux posted...
Holy wall of text Batman lol. You need paragraphs


Are line breaks that important to you? :P

And yes, I do realize I could and should utilize them more than I do. I broke that into two after I typed it out >_>
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#124
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#125
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_Matchabuu_
06/07/19 9:55:22 AM
#126:


Conflict posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/community/Johnny_Nutcase

I guess he's not getting fucked up tonight


Lmaooooo
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EliteC
06/07/19 12:59:37 PM
#127:


Conflict posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/community/shokan_warrior

L
m
a
o


There is no lmao here.

Every time he comes posts at least 4 hardcore white supremacist things, then he manages to get 2 or 3 good posters in purgatory or banned for daring to disagree with with him and he gets away with a purg or a warn, only to come back to repeat the cycle over and over again.

He is clearly winning, he gets his message out and he gets to purg anti-racist posters.
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GiftedACIII
06/07/19 1:03:11 PM
#128:


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PrincessCadance
06/07/19 8:43:30 PM
#129:


So Machete has an alt with 1500 karma, damn
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0AbsoluteZero0
06/07/19 8:48:51 PM
#130:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/community/EliteC/

Looks like ROD got hit for #127
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Oldin
06/07/19 9:04:32 PM
#131:


_Matchabuu_ posted...
waiting


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FigureOfSpeech
06/07/19 9:27:55 PM
#132:


PrincessCadance posted...
So Machete has an alt with 1500 karma, damn


This account is older than that one was my alt first. Machete was actually this one's alt and this was a secret alt. I had other alts for my main also but I don't remember them.
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The_Thinker
06/07/19 9:46:21 PM
#133:


Conflict posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/community/shokan_warrior

L
m
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I wonder what he could have done...
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PleaseClap
06/08/19 3:40:47 AM
#134:


I wonder why allen never actually bans the self admitted national socialists
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FigureOfSpeech
06/08/19 4:42:11 PM
#136:


Information is a process
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GiftedACIII
06/08/19 4:46:31 PM
#137:


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Kaliesto
06/08/19 10:27:13 PM
#138:


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_Matchabuu_
06/08/19 10:51:50 PM
#139:


JustMyOpinion posted...
Machete can't handle the new ToS. Tsk tsk.


Wasnt the warn overturned?
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BlazeJordan648
06/08/19 11:02:33 PM
#140:


Conflict posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/community/blazejordan648

Lmfao. Hope that warning was worth it


This is a wild comment since you never defend yourself if others aren't there to back you up. Let me try this again fuck @Conflict and fuck whoever warned me
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FigureOfSpeech
06/08/19 11:15:31 PM
#141:


_Matchabuu_ posted...
JustMyOpinion posted...
Machete can't handle the new ToS. Tsk tsk.


Wasn?t the warn overturned?


It was supposed to be. Information is a process. It should not have been moderated in the first place, but the dispute was going to yield a puzzle piece. I actually wanted the ambiguous monochromatic background piece instead of one of the corners, but the corner is more valuable in the long run.
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BlazeJordan648
06/08/19 11:20:15 PM
#142:


FigureOfSpeech posted...
_Matchabuu_ posted...
JustMyOpinion posted...
Machete can't handle the new ToS. Tsk tsk.


Wasn?t the warn overturned?


It was supposed to be. Information is a process. It should not have been moderated in the first place, but the dispute was going to yield a puzzle piece. I actually wanted the ambiguous monochromatic background piece instead of one of the corners, but the corner is more valuable in the long run.


I like how a very obvious machete alt is allowed but others are not. Theres a very clear mod bias I'm not sure why they don't just come out and say it. "Yeah we allow alts from people we like, but if we don't then we'll be gunning for you" I guess when you have milk sandwich man as a lead mod though its expected
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_Matchabuu_
06/08/19 11:23:15 PM
#143:


There are plenty of people with alts.
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BlazeJordan648
06/08/19 11:29:28 PM
#144:


_Matchabuu_ posted...
There are plenty of people with alts.


Yes thank you for that obvious information joestar alt #3 but the point I was getting at is that some people get banned purely on the fact of being alts while you/machete etc are consistently terrible posters and seem to have no issue, I wonder why that is
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Vicious_Dios
06/08/19 11:31:19 PM
#145:


'milk sandwich man'



That's good.
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FigureOfSpeech
06/08/19 11:36:46 PM
#146:


BlazeJordan648 posted...
FigureOfSpeech posted...
_Matchabuu_ posted...
JustMyOpinion posted...
Machete can't handle the new ToS. Tsk tsk.


Wasn?t the warn overturned?


It was supposed to be. Information is a process. It should not have been moderated in the first place, but the dispute was going to yield a puzzle piece. I actually wanted the ambiguous monochromatic background piece instead of one of the corners, but the corner is more valuable in the long run.


I like how a very obvious machete alt is allowed but others are not. Theres a very clear mod bias I'm not sure why they don't just come out and say it. "Yeah we allow alts from people we like, but if we don't then we'll be gunning for you" I guess when you have milk sandwich man as a lead mod though its expected


Alts of banned people aren't allowed. Machete is technically this account's alt if you check my sign up dates. What alt "that they don't like" are you referring to? Are you comparing me to you? I advertise who I am because I've used these accounts for different purposes in the far past. Now this one is simply a secondary account and occasional contextual gimmick account (for when people make figures of speech or use the term "figure of speech" itself). You can find proof on archive sites. There have been a small number of occasions over the past few years where someone has posted "it's a figure of speech" and I've gimmick posted "it's not me actually" or something like that. I name changed Machete at the 10 year mark, but this account is older and I have left the name the same just for the sake of getting to occasionally use that gimmick.

If you are indeed making a comparison between you and me, what is the other account you have that they "don't like" according to you? I'm genuinely curious because you seem to show up at random signs and I haven't seen a pattern off the top of my head.
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FigureOfSpeech
06/08/19 11:43:38 PM
#147:


BlazeJordan648 posted...
_Matchabuu_ posted...
There are plenty of people with alts.


Yes thank you for that obvious information joestar alt #3 but the point I was getting at is that some people get banned purely on the fact of being alts while you/machete etc are consistently terrible posters and seem to have no issue, I wonder why that is ??


Granted I failed to get the warn overturned, but either way I hadn't been warned in probably 2 years, so I don't know why you would suggest I'm a terrible poster, and Joe has stayed out of trouble on her current account. No one denies her history, not even she herself. She has taken advice under advisement and has kept her current account in good standing. I think she is setting a good example for many who prefer to continue to double down and complain about getting into trouble. I'm not happy to have had my streak broken but I haven't flamed the mods or melted down off site. I'm on a discord with at least one mod and even Allen himself. Did I chew them out and demand a post-upholding reversal? No. What would I gain from going down that road? It is what it is at this point.
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BlazeJordan648
06/08/19 11:44:01 PM
#148:


FigureOfSpeech posted...
BlazeJordan648 posted...
FigureOfSpeech posted...
_Matchabuu_ posted...
JustMyOpinion posted...
Machete can't handle the new ToS. Tsk tsk.


Wasn?t the warn overturned?


It was supposed to be. Information is a process. It should not have been moderated in the first place, but the dispute was going to yield a puzzle piece. I actually wanted the ambiguous monochromatic background piece instead of one of the corners, but the corner is more valuable in the long run.


I like how a very obvious machete alt is allowed but others are not. Theres a very clear mod bias I'm not sure why they don't just come out and say it. "Yeah we allow alts from people we like, but if we don't then we'll be gunning for you" I guess when you have milk sandwich man as a lead mod though its expected


Alts of banned people aren't allowed. Machete is technically this account's alt if you check my sign up dates. What alt "that they don't like" are you referring to? Are you comparing me to you? I advertise who I am because I've used these accounts for different purposes in the far past. Now this one is simply a secondary account and occasional contextual gimmick account (for when people make figures of speech or use the term "figure of speech" itself). You can find proof on archive sites. There have been a small number of occasions over the past few years where someone has posted "it's a figure of speech" and I've gimmick posted "it's not me actually" or something like that. I name changed Machete at the 10 year mark, but this account is older and I have left the name the same just for the sake of getting to occasionally use that gimmick.

If you are indeed making a comparison between you and me, what is the other account you have that they "don't like" according to you? I'm genuinely curious because you seem to show up at random signs and I haven't seen a pattern off the top of my head.


You know I'm not a woman right? So no need to leave me a wall of text no one asked for or that no one gives a shit about. I know it may scramble your simple mind but I'm not an alt nor have I ever had an alt, but that doesn't mean I cant notice obvious bullshit
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BlazeJordan648
06/08/19 11:46:43 PM
#149:


FigureOfSpeech posted...
BlazeJordan648 posted...
_Matchabuu_ posted...
There are plenty of people with alts.


Yes thank you for that obvious information joestar alt #3 but the point I was getting at is that some people get banned purely on the fact of being alts while you/machete etc are consistently terrible posters and seem to have no issue, I wonder why that is ??


Granted I failed to get the warn overturned, but either way I hadn't been warned in probably 2 years, so I don't know why you would suggest I'm a terrible poster, and Joe has stayed out of trouble on her current account. No one denies her history, not even she herself. She has taken advice under advisement and has kept her current account in good standing. I think she is setting a good example for many who prefer to continue to double down and complain about getting into trouble. I'm not happy to have had my streak broken but I haven't flamed the mods or melted down off site. I'm on a discord with at least one mod and even Allen himself. Did I chew them out and demand a post-upholding reversal? No. What would I gain from going down that road? It is what it is at this point.


"Ayo Joe please be in a e relationship with me I'm super nice can you not tell how nice I am???? (Ps not desperate at all my whole gimmick is owning a machete so naturally I do well with females in real life )"
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PatrickMahomes
06/08/19 11:54:20 PM
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0AbsoluteZero0
06/08/19 11:55:13 PM
#151:


Wow, no one saw that coming
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_Matchabuu_
06/08/19 11:55:42 PM
#152:


PatrickMahomes posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/community/BlazeJordan648

WARNED


Oof
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FigureOfSpeech
06/08/19 11:55:56 PM
#153:


I don't care if you're a woman or not. That has nothing to do with anything in this conversation.

I guess you want to just overreact and double down on your baseless assumptions that you've been showing up once every 4-6 months to make for a day or two before disappearing again.

I'm not responding to any additional posts of yours because you've derailed this topic enough already and I'm done with this conversation.
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