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The Admiral
06/06/19 9:39:48 AM
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https://nationalpost.com/news/dodgeball-isnt-just-problematic-its-an-unethical-tool-of-oppression-researchers

The games children play in schoolyards are famously horrible, if you stop and think about them.

Tag, for example, singles out one poor participant, often the slowest child, as the dehumanized It, who runs vainly in pursuit of the quicker ones. Capture the Flag is nakedly militaristic. British Bulldog has obvious jingoistic colonial themes. Red Ass, known in America as Butts Up, involves deliberate imposition of corporal punishment on losers.

But none rouse the passions of reform-minded educational progressives quite like dodgeball, the team sport in which players throw balls at each other, trying to hit their competitors and banish them to the sidelines of shame.

When the Canadian Society for the Study of Education meets in Vancouver at the Congress of the Humanities and Social Sciences, a trio of education theorists will argue that dodgeball is not only problematic, in the modern sense of displaying hierarchies of privilege based on athletic skill, but that it is outright miseducative.

Dodgeball is not just unhelpful to the development of kind and gentle children who will become decent citizens of a liberal democracy. It is actively harmful to this process, they say.

Dodgeball is a tool of oppression.


It is not saved because some kids like it, according to an abstract for the presentation, led by Joy Butler, professor of curriculum and pedagogy at the University of British Columbia.

As we consider the potential of physical education to empower students by engaging them in critical and democratic practices, we conclude that the hidden curriculum offered by dodgeball is antithetical to this project, even when it reflects the choices of the strongest and most agile students, it reads.

This hidden curriculum in dodgeball is far more nefarious than your average gym class runaround. Dodgeball is miseducative because it reinforces the five faces of oppression, as defined by the late Iris Marion Young, a social and political theorist at the University of Chicago.


And no, this isn't satire.
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Caution998
06/06/19 9:41:15 AM
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I sincerely wonder how The Onion will remain in business as time moves forward. This is like something straight out of their website...

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codey
06/06/19 9:41:19 AM
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I've never even heard of British Bulldog or Red Ass
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Master_Bass
06/06/19 9:43:33 AM
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codey posted...
I've never even heard of British Bulldog

Red Rover is derived from it if you ever played that.
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Vyrulisse
06/06/19 9:43:56 AM
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Dodgeball is one of the ultimate expressions of merit based success so of course they would hate it.
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davyheinz
06/06/19 9:46:10 AM
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You cant expect somebody to dodge, dive, dip, duck, and dodge all at once. Thats elitist.
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s0nicfan
06/06/19 9:46:51 AM
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He also thinks the concept of Santa claus is immoral:
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/why-its-morally-wrong-to-lie-to-your-children-about-santa-claus-and-other-fairy-tales
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LightHawKnight
06/06/19 9:47:28 AM
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Should make him dodge a wrench instead.
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King_Hellebuyck
06/06/19 9:47:39 AM
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I wonder who is more likely to be right - the dude who did research to come to a conclusion or the dude who read the conclusion and cried about it?
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Doom_Art
06/06/19 9:47:55 AM
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https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/national-post/

RIGHT-CENTER BIAS


Oh Addy
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Master_Bass
06/06/19 9:49:36 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
He also thinks the concept of Santa claus is immoral:
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/why-its-morally-wrong-to-lie-to-your-children-about-santa-claus-and-other-fairy-tales

I really don't get why we lie to children about Santa. My mom never told me he was real because she was sad to learn the truth as a kid. It does teach kids not to trust your parents.
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scar the 1
06/06/19 9:49:56 AM
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It does seem reasonable to think about how school interacts with bullying
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Vyrulisse
06/06/19 9:50:27 AM
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Master_Bass posted...
s0nicfan posted...
He also thinks the concept of Santa claus is immoral:
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/why-its-morally-wrong-to-lie-to-your-children-about-santa-claus-and-other-fairy-tales

I really don't get why we lie to children about Santa. My mom never told me he was real because she was sad to learn the truth as a kid. It does teach kids not to trust your parents.

Bullshit. Santa is a fun experience as a kid and when you learn the truth you should be old enough to understand the purpose of the lie.
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DarkChozoGhost
06/06/19 9:52:16 AM
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Dodgeball has been banned from schools for around 20 years now
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Master_Bass
06/06/19 9:53:44 AM
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Vyrulisse posted...
Master_Bass posted...
s0nicfan posted...
He also thinks the concept of Santa claus is immoral:
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/why-its-morally-wrong-to-lie-to-your-children-about-santa-claus-and-other-fairy-tales

I really don't get why we lie to children about Santa. My mom never told me he was real because she was sad to learn the truth as a kid. It does teach kids not to trust your parents.

Bullshit. Santa is a fun experience as a kid and when you learn the truth you should be old enough to understand the purpose of the lie.

Yes, because every child is the same. Some can shrug it off just fine but others feel betrayed. I don't see what's so fun about Santa, but of course I was never a believer in him.
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SageHarpuia
06/06/19 9:54:43 AM
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Sounds like he wasn't good at it
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Master_Bass
06/06/19 9:55:26 AM
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DarkChozoGhost posted...
Dodgeball has been banned from schools for around 20 years now

Nah, we still played it a bit when I was in high school 10 years ago.
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Vyrulisse
06/06/19 9:55:41 AM
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SageHarpuia posted...
Sounds like he wasn't good at it


He was the dork that tried to become one with the back wall with the other fatties and girls and got pelted when the game started.
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BaiusGaltar
06/06/19 9:57:20 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/national-post/

RIGHT-CENTER BIAS


Oh Addy

Because you only go buy non-bias sources.
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SageHarpuia
06/06/19 9:59:24 AM
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Who's checking mediabiasfactcheck.com for bias though?
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DuneMan
06/06/19 9:59:31 AM
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Master_Bass posted...
codey posted...
I've never even heard of British Bulldog

Red Rover is derived from it if you ever played that.

Red Rover as a tool of oppression? I used to play that in kindergarten and first grade as part of a class-wide activity. It could just as easily be framed as a teamwork exercise.
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Doom_Art
06/06/19 10:00:25 AM
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SageHarpuia posted...
Who's checking mediabiasfactcheck.com for bias though?

it's weird how it's usually only one particular group that seems to have an issue with that site
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s0nicfan
06/06/19 10:00:37 AM
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The Admiral posted...
that dodgeball is not only problematic, in the modern sense of displaying hierarchies of privilege based on athletic skill,


Easy fix:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrison_Bergeron
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Mega_Greninja
06/06/19 10:02:05 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
Who's checking mediabiasfactcheck.com for bias though?

it's weird how it's usually only one particular group that seems to have an issue with that site

It's a valid question tbqh
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Master_Bass
06/06/19 10:02:12 AM
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DuneMan posted...
Master_Bass posted...
codey posted...
I've never even heard of British Bulldog

Red Rover is derived from it if you ever played that.

Red Rover as a tool of oppression? I used to play that in kindergarten and first grade as part of a class-wide activity. It could just as easily be framed as a teamwork exercise.

They're not the exact same game as far as I know, but similar. I liked Red Rover as a kid, but it does seem like kind of a bad idea to play since some kid always seems to get hurt. There's plenty of other good games to play where running into other kids isn't the goal.
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creativerealms
06/06/19 10:03:42 AM
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Yeah people like this exist. Why is this news?
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Doom_Art
06/06/19 10:04:03 AM
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Mega_Greninja posted...
It's a valid question tbqh

it'd be more valid if he had an actual criticism of the site or how they do things.

more than just wHo WaTcHeS tHe WaTcHmEn
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BaiusGaltar
06/06/19 10:04:15 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
Who's checking mediabiasfactcheck.com for bias though?

it's weird how it's usually only one particular group that seems to have an issue with that site

Let me ask you this, were it center-left bias, would you have criticized him for it?
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Doom_Art
06/06/19 10:06:31 AM
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BaiusGaltar posted...
Let me ask you this, were it center-left bias, would you have criticized him for it?

if the site is center-left biased then it's center-left biased
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BaiusGaltar
06/06/19 10:09:21 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
BaiusGaltar posted...
Let me ask you this, were it center-left bias, would you have criticized him for it?

if the site is center-left biased then it's center-left biased

Would you have criticized him for it?
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TeachMeCodePLZ
06/06/19 10:10:08 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/national-post/

RIGHT-CENTER BIAS


Oh Addy


whatre ur thoughts on vox and salon
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The Admiral
06/06/19 10:10:13 AM
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Is Doomy really crying about a site that has minimal bias and is listed as HIGH for factual reporting?

Poor fella. Hope he never checks out the ratings for Vox or HuffPo.
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creativerealms
06/06/19 10:11:43 AM
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The Admiral posted...
Is Doomy really crying about a site that has minimal bias and is listed as HIGH for factual reporting?

Poor fella. Hope he never checks out the ratings for Vox or HuffPo.

This isn't even news factual or not.
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The Great Muta 22
06/06/19 10:13:01 AM
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You still care about random college professors and students way too much. Stop looking for things to be outraged over Addy and learn to ignore them
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Vyrulisse
06/06/19 10:13:52 AM
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The Great Muta 22 posted...
You still care about random college professors and students way too much. Stop looking for things to be outraged over Addy and learn to ignore them

Most of the concern is that people like this guy have the status as College Professor and are in charge of teaching fresh faced College Students this kinda bullshit.
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King_Hellebuyck
06/06/19 10:15:12 AM
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At least Doom isnt crying that someone who actually did research came to a conclusion he didnt like.
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spudger
06/06/19 10:15:19 AM
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site is bias as fuck but if its a true story its still pathetic

dudes projecting hard
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Sphyx
06/06/19 10:16:16 AM
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YOU'RE a tool of oppression.
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TeachMeCodePLZ
06/06/19 10:21:36 AM
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The Great Muta 22 posted...
You still care about random college professors and students way too much. Stop looking for things to be outraged over Addy and learn to ignore them


lots of profs are like that tho and they teach the next generation
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Gobstoppers12
06/06/19 10:24:18 AM
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As the kid who hated gym class the most, dodgeball was one of my favorite things to play.
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Doom_Art
06/06/19 10:26:28 AM
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TeachMeCodePLZ posted...
whatre ur thoughts on vox and salon

Not great if you want actual news lol
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BaiusGaltar
06/06/19 10:27:37 AM
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Vyrulisse posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
You still care about random college professors and students way too much. Stop looking for things to be outraged over Addy and learn to ignore them

Most of the concern is that people like this guy have the status as College Professor and are in charge of teaching fresh faced College Students this kinda bullshit.

True to a degree, but were it a wonky conservative notion, Addy would likely laugh at the triggered libs.
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Giant_Aspirin
06/06/19 10:27:47 AM
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Caution998 posted...
I sincerely wonder how The Onion will remain in business as time moves forward. This is like something straight out of their website...

sigh


i feel this way practically every single time Trumpy is in the news
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spudger
06/06/19 10:32:07 AM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
Caution998 posted...
I sincerely wonder how The Onion will remain in business as time moves forward. This is like something straight out of their website...

sigh


i feel this way practically every single time Trumpy is in the news

xD seriouly. dudes a joke
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Caution998
06/06/19 10:33:54 AM
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Some would say the journalists and their respective networks who report on him are a joke, but obviously not everything he's done is right or perfect by any means.
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spudger
06/06/19 10:35:43 AM
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Caution998 posted...
journalists

disingenuous again caution

many pulitzer prize winning journalists have written plenty of legit pieces on him
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Guide
06/06/19 10:36:40 AM
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You know, this is nice. Despite yall still attacking each other, the fact is that no one here thinks the author deserves to have opinions. How stupid he is brings us all together.
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