Current Events > Morrowind is one of the most overrated games of all time. SPOILERS

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And people fanboy it so god damn much that they literally won't allow themselves to enjoy Oblivion and Skyrim.

Apparently fast travel is an earth shattering deal breaker to Morrowind fans LMAO. They're crazy about using taxis and would take it to the end of the world to prove to you why they're the best thing ever. However, fast travel isn't even a new feature. It was used in Daggerfall. You HAVE to use mark and recall(yeah good luck with that if you're not a mage at all). Also map goal setters triggers Morrowind fans greatly LMAO.

Vivec has to be one of the worst-designed cities in any game. Luckily the bad design and the game's shitty mechanics of the city makes it a great place to train your jumping skills which you will definitely need if you wanna get anywhere in the game. Speaking of which, you will also HAVE to learn how to fly in order to progress the story. Great stuff.

Also, when installing and freshly playing Morrowind, make sure you aren't using the expansion Tribunal yet. Because if you are some OP assassin will come 1-3 shot you even at the very beginning of the game. This is obviously a very bad game design but fanboys will tell you it's an "oversight".

NPCs factually gave you awful directions to get to places. The best thing to do is to follow signs and even then you can still get easily losted or get ganged up by the fucking worst enemies in the world called Cliff Racers. I've read some guides and some people told me to get to Ghost Fence ASAP for some awesome loot. Of course everyone made it sound like it was a cake walk but it factually wasn't. Getting lost and getting rekt by Cliff Racers on the way there would turn any normal gamer off but some how the fanboys tolerated it.

More to come.
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Guess who didn't read all that?

Everyone
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The Assassin isn't OP if it spawns when you're low level. It scales and the equipment is a nice boost and you can farm them to sell for mass septims.
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If you know what you're doing you can find ways to kill it.
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You skipped the obvious one.

*swings sword while physically touching enemy*
*miss*

Morrowind is awful.
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I loved Morrowind but if you wanna shit on it there are better examples. Like if you learn Levitate you basically won the game and broke it entirely, enemies cannot deal with fighting you in the air.
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lol, who used silt striders. You either make a spell of Tinur's hoptoad and feather with a point in slow fall or levitate and fortify speed.
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bover_87 posted...

You skipped the obvious one.

*swings sword while physically touching enemy*
*miss*

Morrowind is awful.

Was eventually getting to it.
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BillyKidd posted...

lol, who used silt striders. You either make a spell of Tinur's hoptoad and feather with a point in slow fall or levitate and fortify speed.

LMAO see this is the kinda shit that makes Morrowind dumb as fuck and their fans eat it up.
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Is Morrowind the 3rd most overrated?!?
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Turbam posted...

Is Morrowind the 3rd most overrated?!?

Naw. Third is probably Super Metroid.
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Veggeta X posted...

Turbam posted...

Is Morrowind the 3rd most overrated?!?

Naw. Third is probably Super Metroid.

I quite like Super Metroid, it may possibly be my favorite SNES game, but I appreciate your opinion
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Turbam posted...

I quite like Super Metroid, it may possibly be my favorite SNES game, but I appreciate your opinion

SM is definitely a great and fun game. But because people blindly love it so much they won't allow themselves to enjoy Fusion or Zero Missions. Kinda like how Morrowind fans love Morrowind so much they won't allow themselves to enjoy Oblivion or Skyrim. Blind loyalty to something without being able to enjoy a sequel or a competition is a huge sign of overration.
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Veggeta X posted...

Turbam posted...

I quite like Super Metroid, it may possibly be my favorite SNES game, but I appreciate your opinion

SM is definitely a great and fun game. But because people blindly love it so much they won't allow themselves to enjoy Fusion or Zero Missions. Kinda like how Morrowind fans love Morrowind so much they won't allow themselves to enjoy Oblivion or Skyrim. Blind loyalty to something without being able to enjoy a sequel or a competition is a huge sign of overration.

In that regard then yes I agree. The only Metroid game that I can't truly enjoy is the first one and since Zero Mission is so damn good that's not an issue.
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I read everything in the OP. I am a fan of Morrowind, and I agree with some of your points, and points made by others. Playing on PC, with the right set of mods can fix most of those issues, but installing mods can be lots of work. It's not a perfect game, or even close, but I find the effort worthwhile.

On Oblivion and Skyrim - Oblivion is a great game, and I still play it frequently. Skyrim, well, I tried to like it, I wanted to like it, but it just didn't grow on me like the other two.
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I thoroughly enjoyed Morrowind and Skyrim. Never played Oblivon
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DarthGravid posted...

I read everything in the OP.

@DrizztLink
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DrizztLink posted...

Guess who didn't read all that?

Everyone

i read it, and I agree 100%

I don't care about anything else. I rekt post number 2 and that's all I care about now.
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Gothic is the superior open world rpg at the time anyway.

Bethesda never actually made something competent
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low hanging fruit from vegy
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bover_87 posted...

You skipped the obvious one.

*swings sword while physically touching enemy*
*miss*

Morrowind is awful.

It's almost like Morrowind is a cRPG and your stats matter.

But I'm sure you already knew that, and that's why you're just talking out your ass.
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Skyrim is boring as shit
I liked oblivion. I love Morrowind.
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Veggeta X posted...

And people fanboy it so god damn much that they literally won't allow themselves to enjoy Oblivion and Skyrim.

I love Skyrim, but Morrowind is vastly superior.

Apparently fast travel is an earth shattering deal breaker to Morrowind fans LMAO.

Yeah fuck those guys. It does work well in Morrowind, though. The map is smaller and the places you cant fast travel to are supposed to be desolate and separated from the civilized part of the land.

Vivec has to be one of the worst-designed cities in any game. Luckily the bad design and the game's shitty mechanics of the city makes it a great place to train your jumping skills which you will definitely need if you wanna get anywhere in the game.

Agree on every point. And yes I definitely jumped up those ramps every time! XD

Speaking of which, you will also HAVE to learn how to fly in order to progress the story. Great stuff.

Eh. Luckily I was an alchemist so I had plenty of potions to help me with this. I get what youre saying, though, it is kind of whack that they force your character to have a certain attribute. But its still better than Skyrim which makes being a pure stealth illusionist (potentially the funnest character type in the game) all but useless against the unlimited dragons abound.

But why wouldnt you want a character that uses some form of levitate? The game has all sorts of goodies hidden in high places and it makes exploring easier in general.

Also, when installing and freshly playing Morrowind, make sure you aren't using the expansion Tribunal yet. Because if you are some OP assassin will come 1-3 shot you even at the very beginning of the game. This is obviously a very bad game design but fanboys will tell you it's an "oversight".

Agreed. Skyrim sort of had this problem, too because Miraks messengers are most likely too powerful since youll likely be low-level when you encounter them. Its like they constructed it strictly for players who had already beaten the main quest, and didnt even think about new saves.

NPCs factually gave you awful directions to get to places. The best thing to do is to follow signs and even then you can still get easily losted or get ganged up by the fucking worst enemies in the world called Cliff Racers. I've read some guides and some people told me to get to Ghost Fence ASAP for some awesome loot. Of course everyone made it sound like it was a cake walk but it factually wasn't. Getting lost and getting rekt by Cliff Racers on the way there would turn any normal gamer off but some how the fanboys tolerated it.

I cant remember having any problems with bad directions. At some points they were a little vague, but I was always able to manage without using a guide. But yes, FUCK cliff racers. If I ever replay the game, Im going to find a way to remove them.

Zodd3224 posted...

This is the worst gimmick on a board full of terrible gimmicks

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Ic3Bullet posted...

I appreciate the refute, but vegy knows what he's doing.
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DrizztLink posted...

Guess who didn't read all that?

Everyone

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@Lordgold666 posted...

DrizztLink posted...

Guess who didn't read all that?

Everyone

Wrong already
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The thing I loved about Morrowind was the freedom, and I am not talking mods just the base game.

You could make rings that cast spells, you could wear individual pieces of clothes/gloves. You could wear clothes over clothes or armor. You could make spells to summon legions of monsters before it froze. You could fly while raining destruction on cities. The list of things you could create goes on and on. The later games kept cutting/gutting options instead of at least keeping to a set amount until finally there isnt even custom magic anymore.

I truly miss that freedom to make any character basically anything I wanted.

I agree the rest of the game is overrated, but still no game to my knowledge has even come close to it in freedom of build.
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Mistere Man posted...

The thing I loved about Morrowind was the freedom, and I am not talking mods just the base game.

You could make rings that cast spells, you could wear individual pieces of clothes/gloves. You could wear clothes over clothes or armor. You could make spells to summon legions of monsters before it froze. You could fly while raining destruction on cities. The list of things you could create goes on and on. The later games kept cutting/gutting options instead of at least keeping to a set amount until finally there isnt even custom magic anymore.

I truly miss that freedom to make any character basically anything I wanted.

I agree the rest of the game is overrated, but still no game to my knowledge has even come close to it in freedom of build.

What Morrowind fans ALWAYS fail to explain is to get this level of magic or enchantments or to make these kind of pots require you to be at a high level and that takes a LOT of time.
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*abuse enchanting and spellmaking glitches*
*become omnipotent God-Wizard*

hell yeah
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Might as well use the fucking console then.
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ThePrinceFish posted...

*abuse enchanting and spellmaking glitches*
*become omnipotent God-Wizard*

hell yeah

My favorite story is of some dude making it so that he was an overwhelmingly powerful wizard, but the armor he was wearing was literally keeping him alive. If he ever removed that chestplate, he would die. He was legitimately undead. Morrowind makes for really fantastic personal stories.
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Heres one for 360:

Keep making potions that increase your stats to make better potions back and forth for a while.

Do this until you can make godly potions for any stat. Now make a godly potion of health. Now youre a god. But when it wears off itll subtract your new health from your base health and you will die.
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Veggeta X posted...

Might as well use the fucking console then.

but then I'm not a badass reality rending God-Wizard

I'm just a filthy cheater
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Veggeta X posted...

Mistere Man posted...

The thing I loved about Morrowind was the freedom, and I am not talking mods just the base game.

You could make rings that cast spells, you could wear individual pieces of clothes/gloves. You could wear clothes over clothes or armor. You could make spells to summon legions of monsters before it froze. You could fly while raining destruction on cities. The list of things you could create goes on and on. The later games kept cutting/gutting options instead of at least keeping to a set amount until finally there isnt even custom magic anymore.

I truly miss that freedom to make any character basically anything I wanted.

I agree the rest of the game is overrated, but still no game to my knowledge has even come close to it in freedom of build.

What Morrowind fans ALWAYS fail to explain is to get this level of magic or enchantments or to make these kind of pots require you to be at a high level and that takes a LOT of time.

No it doesnt. I mean it can, but there are some very useful glitches that can be used if you want to skip leveling like the soul trap glitch to make permanent spells/summons. Even without glitches you can make some fun equipment very easily and even at level 1 you just need to know where to go.

Now money was hard to come by, but there were probably ways around that also.
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Guys if you have to use a glitch you might as well just use the console or some mod LMAO. Abusing a broken mechanic in a game is a bad design IMO. I mean it won't make or break the game but it isn't exactly a good thing either.
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Mistere Man posted...

Now money was hard to come by, but there were probably ways around that also.

Money is another thing Morrowind did better than Oblivion or Skyrim, at least in proportion to artifacts. In Morrowind, a unique artifact was worth its weight in gold - often commanding tens of thousands of Septims that no merchant feasibly had that amount of money to outright purchase, not without haggling down substantially.

In Skyrim, a legendary Daedric artifact might be, like, 8K gold. In Morrowind, it's worth about 75,000.
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Veggeta X posted...

Guys if you have to use a glitch you might as well just use the console or some mod LMAO. Abusing a broken mechanic in a game is a bad design IMO. I mean it won't make or break the game but it isn't exactly a good thing either.

Look I said you could, but there is also ways to not to.

Also I only had the Xbox version so console commands/mods were not available to me.
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