Board 8 > NHL Discussion Topic - Part 6 - Screw the Bruins

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SmartMuffin
06/23/19 12:54:55 PM
#201:


https://twitter.com/JesseGranger_/status/1142819429304197120

I'm not the biggest believer in (W.) Karlsson, but this seems like a really freaking good contract.
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Shadow Dino
06/23/19 12:58:37 PM
#202:


Damn, that is a good contract. Well done by Vegas.
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SmartMuffin
06/23/19 12:59:17 PM
#203:


Also this is hilarious

https://twitter.com/CarlyAplin/status/1142290880553988097
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Shadow Dino
06/24/19 6:57:33 PM
#204:


Would a theoretical 3 yr, $21 million contract for Joe Pavelski be too much?
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SmartMuffin
06/24/19 7:01:39 PM
#205:


lol no, that would be a steal

he's gonna get more term AND more AAV than that, easily!

I'd be shocked if he goes for anything less than 5 years, 9M AAV
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Shadow Dino
06/24/19 7:46:52 PM
#206:


Sweet, Blackhawks got de Haan from the Hurricanes for a bunch of scrap.
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SmartMuffin
06/24/19 8:33:54 PM
#207:


https://twitter.com/NJDevil00/status/1142902923908800513

I really hope the success of Gritty inspires all teams to step up their mascot game
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Panthera
06/24/19 8:53:08 PM
#208:


If there's one thing Edmonton is way ahead of the curve on, it's having a creepy mascot
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Strife2
06/29/19 5:08:08 PM
#209:


Pavelski on the Wild's radar for some reason. I thought they finally figured out they weren't close. I know the trades brought cap space (if nothing else), but paying for a 34-year old sounds super risky.

Staal, Parise, and Suter putting up "decent" numbers shouldn't be a sign to spend for more. They still have to shed Koivu's cash first.
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MartinFF7
06/29/19 5:36:40 PM
#210:


I just read a "rumor" that Cam Talbot might be heading to Calgary.

This city is forever cursed to have mediocre goaltending, isn't it. Though I guess he's better than Mike Smith...
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SmartMuffin
06/29/19 6:06:34 PM
#211:


So you're not onboard with the "Smith had 2 good games in a 5-game first-round loss and that therefore proves Calgary has no need to find any other goaltending" hot take that seemed dominant a few months ago?
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Shadow Dino
06/29/19 6:15:52 PM
#212:


https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1145083152668536832

A Ceci for Zaitsev swap in the works
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MartinFF7
06/29/19 7:00:01 PM
#213:


Ceci is great! I hope the Leafs get him rather than his rotting on the Sens.

SmartMuffin posted...
So you're not onboard with the "Smith had 2 good games in a 5-game first-round loss and that therefore proves Calgary has no need to find any other goaltending" hot take that seemed dominant a few months ago?

I was shitting on him and blaming him for the series loss even when it wasn't his fault! I've never forgotten how bad he was.

Plus I was always a Rittich guy! And by "always" I mean desperately picked him up for my fantasy team when he was stringing together some good starts, and the one time he slipped they went back to Smith for like 8 games. Brutal.
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Shadow Dino
06/29/19 7:41:29 PM
#214:


https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1145112316163305472

Oh shit, Kessel is getting banishe-err, I mean traded to Arizona?!
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MartinFF7
06/29/19 8:51:16 PM
#215:


hmmm.... what's the hot dog quality like there?
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davidponte
06/29/19 11:27:58 PM
#216:


Ceci is the opposite of great. Best case scenario for the Leafs here is to get him then just not offer him a contract since he's an RFA. Great way to get Zaitsev off the books.
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davidponte
06/29/19 11:29:13 PM
#217:


My Leafs Kessel jersey with a coincidentally placed but incredibly appropriate mustard stain is my prized possession.

I'll always love the guy.
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MartinFF7
06/29/19 11:41:49 PM
#218:


davidponte posted...
Ceci is the opposite of great. Best case scenario for the Leafs here is to get him then just not offer him a contract since he's an RFA. Great way to get Zaitsev off the books.

okay maybe "great" was too much of the Sens homer in me coming out... decent shutdown 3rd pairing, then?

It would be funny if Ceci became a UFA and signed with Ottawa, making it one of the most pure "bag of pucks" trades of all time.
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Shadow Dino
06/30/19 5:33:05 PM
#219:


Ugh, Blackhawks do that dumb thing of reacquireing their guys with getting Andrew Shaw back. Gave up a second rounder for it too, why?
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davidponte
06/30/19 5:40:03 PM
#220:


Mike Smith to the Oilers in what is essentially a career ender
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SmartMuffin
06/30/19 6:07:51 PM
#221:


I mean, anyone going to the Oilers is a career ender...
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Shadow Dino
06/30/19 8:36:44 PM
#222:


https://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/status/1145488121880043521

Stars signing Pavelski for 3 yrs
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MartinFF7
06/30/19 8:43:18 PM
#223:


oh wow

and they still hang on to Seguin, Benn and Klingberg? If they can get a similar season out of Bishop...

I'm not sure how they make him fit since I didn't even mention Radulov and Lindell also eating a chunk of cap space.
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davidponte
07/01/19 12:15:02 AM
#224:


Brown also getting sent to the Sens for the Leafs to get out of a contract.

All but guaranteed the Leafs walk away from Ceci, thankfully. He's apparently asking for 5x5 lmao
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MartinFF7
07/01/19 1:18:35 AM
#225:


davidponte posted...
Brown also getting sent to the Sens for the Leafs to get out of a contract.

All but guaranteed the Leafs walk away from Ceci, thankfully. He's apparently asking for 5x5 lmao

I mean, if Brooks Orpik could get $5.5 mill a year...
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davidponte
07/01/19 8:51:37 AM
#227:


Leafs somehow get a 3rd rounder in that Zaitsev trade. Sure?

Apparently Spezza is about to sign with the Leafs. I don't hate it at a very minimal price point

EDIT: League minimum!
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Whiskey_Nick
07/01/19 9:10:38 AM
#228:


bahahahahahah Spezza
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davidponte
07/01/19 9:20:53 AM
#229:


I'm pretty sure I would be an upgrade over Gauthier at this point so I'll take the ghost of Spezza
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davidponte
07/01/19 9:26:34 AM
#230:


Hainsey to the Sens.

Let me get this straight. A few months ago Melnyk went out of his way to talk trash about the Leafs defence specifically.

Since then he has signed their D coach and picked up two of their worst defenders.

Hmmm.
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Whiskey_Nick
07/01/19 9:28:46 AM
#231:


Ennis to Sens too
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Whiskey_Nick
07/01/19 9:29:14 AM
#232:


davidponte posted...
Hainsey to the Sens.

Let me get this straight. A few months ago Melnyk went out of his way to talk trash about the Leafs defence specifically.

Since then he has signed their D coach and picked up two of their worst defenders.

Hmmm.

Worst owner in sports is worst owner in sports. More at 11
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davidponte
07/01/19 9:46:30 AM
#233:


Fuck the Leafs are keeping Ceci for 1 year, which is about 1 year longer than they should.
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davidponte
07/01/19 10:05:09 AM
#234:


Holy shit Hainsey just got a RAISE from the Sens lmao
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MartinFF7
07/01/19 10:48:09 AM
#235:


Sens are really into the Leafs' sloppy seconds, eh

(oh shit am I allowed to say that without getting suspended from the NHL Discussion Topic)

davidponte posted...
Fuck the Leafs are keeping Ceci for 1 year, which is about 1 year longer than they should.

I'm telling you man... maybe Ceci will look better on a relatively more competent team???

Mike Smith to the Oilers apparently happened, at least only for 2 mill salary + 2 mill performance bonuses, which means they'll only pay him 2 million dollars in total and can comfortably bench him around December. Maybe they won't miss the playoffs if they do that!
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Strife2
07/01/19 12:05:23 PM
#236:


Zuccarello to the Wild for 5/30 and Hartman for 2/3.8.

Uh...thanks?
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Not Dave
07/01/19 3:01:32 PM
#237:


wonder how long the canes take to match that offer sheet
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MartinFF7
07/01/19 3:18:27 PM
#238:


I am liking the weaponized cash flow of Montreal though, to try and make matching it that much more difficult. Read an article a few days ago about Toronto and Dubas being more than willing to do that but this is the first time I can recall seeing it in action as an offensive move, so heavily frontloaded...
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ESY16
07/01/19 3:19:06 PM
#239:


Not Dave posted...
wonder how long the canes take to match that offer sheet


They may wait the full 7 days purely to lock Montreal in and prevent them from offering any more offer sheets as a price for the inconvenience and 'unwritten rule' stuff. However, the decision to match has undoubtedly already been made. That offer sheet is a joke.
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KCF0107
07/01/19 4:03:55 PM
#240:


Oof, this is a painful offseason, not that it was unexpected. I don't know much about Nyquist, but a cursory glance makes him seem like a nice fit.
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SmartMuffin
07/01/19 5:39:00 PM
#241:


Man, fuck Montreal. What a cowardly move. Why mess around with the loveable jerks when you could have dropped a nuclear bomb on Toronto???
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davidponte
07/01/19 6:04:05 PM
#242:


Maybe because they know they would take the 4 1st round picks
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Shadow Dino
07/01/19 6:29:20 PM
#243:


I'm scratching my head with the Blackhawks signing Lehner. Decent Crawford insurance but I can't help but wonder if there's a bigger move coming
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Panthera
07/01/19 6:29:58 PM
#244:


MartinFF7 posted...
I am liking the weaponized cash flow of Montreal though, to try and make matching it that much more difficult. Read an article a few days ago about Toronto and Dubas being more than willing to do that but this is the first time I can recall seeing it in action as an offensive move, so heavily frontloaded...


I mean, it's the same principle behind the Shea Weber offer sheet from Philadelphia, isn't it? Flyers offered a contract with a ton of up front money in the hopes that Nashville wouldn't be able to comfortably afford it.
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MartinFF7
07/01/19 6:39:57 PM
#245:


Oh that's a great example I forgot about, thank you for that. Small market franchise, huge upfront expense... even worse of a situation than this one.

Shadow Dino posted...
I'm scratching my head with the Blackhawks signing Lehner. Decent Crawford insurance but I can't help but wonder if there's a bigger move coming

Considering they have $11 million tied up in their goalies, yeah...

What would the bigger move be, flipping Lehner somewhere else? I mean it has to be, nobody would take Crawford plus he probably has a no move? Hmm....
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MysteriousStan
07/01/19 7:06:04 PM
#246:


Given Crawford's concussion history and the extensive time he's missed the last 2 years, it's probably going to be more of a tandem situation between him and Lehner. He does have a modified NMC so he still could get traded I guess but I doubt it. Perhaps after this year they'll resign Lehner to be the guy if he plays as well as he did last year. Could be their buying time to see if Delia becomes a quality NHL goalie too.

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davidponte
07/01/19 7:08:43 PM
#247:


Holy fuck Kadri just got traded

Kadri + Rosen for Barrie + Kerfoot

I'm shook
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davidponte
07/01/19 7:10:28 PM
#248:


The Avs also retained half Barrie's salary.

This is a win for the Leafs what the fuck is going on
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MartinFF7
07/01/19 7:11:39 PM
#249:


holy shit

that is an insanely good trade? am I underrating Rosen?

Barrie is a legit Gardiner replacement so it covers that and I like Kerfoot. Never really cared for Kadri. Didn't Spezza also sign for league minimum so that covers 3rd or 4th line centre? Wow.
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davidponte
07/01/19 7:15:00 PM
#250:


Tavares
Matthews
Kerfoot
Spezza

Down the middle.

I think Barrie is better than Gardiner????
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MartinFF7
07/01/19 7:19:25 PM
#251:


oh he definitely is, I should've been more clear when I said that. I thought Kerfoot was a winger?

At first I thought this was more space-clearing for Marner but even with the retained salary for Barrie, Kerfoot is an RFA due for a re-up. Any more than 2.5 mill AAV for him and there's no cap savings for Leafs on this move.

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