Poll of the Day > the person who was suicidal just now, I hope they are ok

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wwinterj25 posted...

Mead posted...

Theyd rather those folks just die rather than post

That's a bit extreme. I'd rather they get help though personally and GameFAQs isn't the place for that.

Just being able to talk to someone is usually the best help

And if theyre already in a pained state moderating them and suspending their account is just gonna make them feel worse. I get that there are liability issues but the way they handle it is in my opinion irresponsible and morally repugnant.
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Mover_of_Zigs posted...

Someone in that state of mind might much rather come to a community like this where they may feel more comfortable for support rather than calling a suicide hotline to talk to someone who, while having the best intentions, get paid to tell you it'll be ok

mooreandrew58 posted...

LinkPizza posted...

While PotD may not be the best place to go, it really depends. Some people here are pretty close. And have made bonds. And are basically friends. Not to mention, not everyone can get a doctor. Maybe they love far from anywhere without a good means of travel. Or maybe its the money. I heard they can be expensive. Maybe he just needed to talk a little. Shutting him down like this isnt helpful. Its probably worse than if he didnt even try...

Sometimes all a person needs is someone to talk vent to also.

Had a friend of a friend call me once at 3 in the morning asking for our mutual friend who lived with us. I had work in the morning and told him to call back the next day. Next day I heard he tried killing himself. Really bugged me cause nothing sounded off when he called, he didnt try to insist when I told him to call back later, and calling at absurd hours was normal for him as he did generally lack any respect for people in that regard. Had he succeeded in his attempt though id probably still be beating myself up over it.

These two are the correct responses. Professional help is not always the first step, the first defense for suicide is those around you, person felt comfortable around here. Ypu should always ask the person to of course seek proffesional help but to basically say "Fuck off, go see a psychiatrist" is not helpful. You have to talk to them, give then a safe place to vent and then suggest help.

Personally for me, I have been to psychiatrists multiple times. They don't really help if your not trying to help yourself. Hell i feel my old doctor was mu best psychiatrist. He explained to me that unless I want to get better, going to a psychiatrist wouldn't help much.

To end a long post, this person first step in getting better was to talk and vent. Having also posters marking and or saying shit like "This isn't the place" or being nasty in anyways is stupid. If you have notjing helpful to say the get the fuck out of the topic. As for mods, i feel the topic should be monitored. Any one trying to encourage the suicide attempt should be permabanned, but a warning should do. If the topic starts turning dark then yeah close it. but that's jsut my random two cents.
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yutterh posted...

Mover_of_Zigs posted...

Someone in that state of mind might much rather come to a community like this where they may feel more comfortable for support rather than calling a suicide hotline to talk to someone who, while having the best intentions, get paid to tell you it'll be ok

mooreandrew58 posted...

LinkPizza posted...

While PotD may not be the best place to go, it really depends. Some people here are pretty close. And have made bonds. And are basically friends. Not to mention, not everyone can get a doctor. Maybe they love far from anywhere without a good means of travel. Or maybe its the money. I heard they can be expensive. Maybe he just needed to talk a little. Shutting him down like this isnt helpful. Its probably worse than if he didnt even try...

Sometimes all a person needs is someone to talk vent to also.

Had a friend of a friend call me once at 3 in the morning asking for our mutual friend who lived with us. I had work in the morning and told him to call back the next day. Next day I heard he tried killing himself. Really bugged me cause nothing sounded off when he called, he didnt try to insist when I told him to call back later, and calling at absurd hours was normal for him as he did generally lack any respect for people in that regard. Had he succeeded in his attempt though id probably still be beating myself up over it.

These two are the correct responses. Professional help is not always the first step, the first defense for suicide is those around you, person felt comfortable around here. Ypu should always ask the person to of course seek proffesional help but to basically say "Fuck off, go see a psychiatrist" is not helpful. You have to talk to them, give then a safe place to vent and then suggest help.

Personally for me, I have been to psychiatrists multiple times. They don't really help if your not trying to help yourself. Hell i feel my old doctor was mu best psychiatrist. He explained to me that unless I want to get better, going to a psychiatrist wouldn't help much.

To end a long post, this person first step in getting better was to talk and vent. Having also posters marking and or saying shit like "This isn't the place" or being nasty in anyways is stupid. If you have notjing helpful to say the get the fuck out of the topic. As for mods, i feel the topic should be monitored. Any one trying to encourage the suicide attempt should be permabanned, but a warning should do. If the topic starts turning dark then yeah close it. but that's jsut my random two cents.

Yeah with said friend after failing to get through to our mutual friend through me he apparently sent a "cry for attention" style text to someone else and she didnt respond but instead forwarded it to his parents. They found him mere moments after he kicked the chair out from under hinself and was swinging. If he had gottend someone to talk to I doubt it would have gone that far.
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wwinterj25 posted...

That's a bit extreme. I'd rather they get help though personally and GameFAQs isn't the place for that.

That's clearly what the mods are going for though. It helps nobody suspending them.
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mooreandrew58 posted...

yutterh posted...

Mover_of_Zigs posted...

Someone in that state of mind might much rather come to a community like this where they may feel more comfortable for support rather than calling a suicide hotline to talk to someone who, while having the best intentions, get paid to tell you it'll be ok

mooreandrew58 posted...

LinkPizza posted...

While PotD may not be the best place to go, it really depends. Some people here are pretty close. And have made bonds. And are basically friends. Not to mention, not everyone can get a doctor. Maybe they love far from anywhere without a good means of travel. Or maybe its the money. I heard they can be expensive. Maybe he just needed to talk a little. Shutting him down like this isnt helpful. Its probably worse than if he didnt even try...

Sometimes all a person needs is someone to talk vent to also.

Had a friend of a friend call me once at 3 in the morning asking for our mutual friend who lived with us. I had work in the morning and told him to call back the next day. Next day I heard he tried killing himself. Really bugged me cause nothing sounded off when he called, he didnt try to insist when I told him to call back later, and calling at absurd hours was normal for him as he did generally lack any respect for people in that regard. Had he succeeded in his attempt though id probably still be beating myself up over it.

These two are the correct responses. Professional help is not always the first step, the first defense for suicide is those around you, person felt comfortable around here. Ypu should always ask the person to of course seek proffesional help but to basically say "Fuck off, go see a psychiatrist" is not helpful. You have to talk to them, give then a safe place to vent and then suggest help.

Personally for me, I have been to psychiatrists multiple times. They don't really help if your not trying to help yourself. Hell i feel my old doctor was mu best psychiatrist. He explained to me that unless I want to get better, going to a psychiatrist wouldn't help much.

To end a long post, this person first step in getting better was to talk and vent. Having also posters marking and or saying shit like "This isn't the place" or being nasty in anyways is stupid. If you have notjing helpful to say the get the fuck out of the topic. As for mods, i feel the topic should be monitored. Any one trying to encourage the suicide attempt should be permabanned, but a warning should do. If the topic starts turning dark then yeah close it. but that's jsut my random two cents.

Yeah with said friend after failing to get through to our mutual friend through me he apparently sent a "cry for attention" style text to someone else and she didnt respond but instead forwarded it to his parents. They found him mere moments after he kicked the chair out from under hinself and was swinging. If he had gottend someone to talk to I doubt it would have gone that far.

Yeah. We have to take a class for it every year. Or multiple times a year. And they say to basically not blow them off. Talk to them. Try to see if they would talk to someone. Not to leave them alone. Stuff like that. But sometimes, talking to someone is what they need. Try not to make them feel unwanted. And dont make them feel like a nuisance...
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LinkPizza posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

yutterh posted...

Mover_of_Zigs posted...

Someone in that state of mind might much rather come to a community like this where they may feel more comfortable for support rather than calling a suicide hotline to talk to someone who, while having the best intentions, get paid to tell you it'll be ok

mooreandrew58 posted...

LinkPizza posted...

While PotD may not be the best place to go, it really depends. Some people here are pretty close. And have made bonds. And are basically friends. Not to mention, not everyone can get a doctor. Maybe they love far from anywhere without a good means of travel. Or maybe its the money. I heard they can be expensive. Maybe he just needed to talk a little. Shutting him down like this isnt helpful. Its probably worse than if he didnt even try...

Sometimes all a person needs is someone to talk vent to also.

Had a friend of a friend call me once at 3 in the morning asking for our mutual friend who lived with us. I had work in the morning and told him to call back the next day. Next day I heard he tried killing himself. Really bugged me cause nothing sounded off when he called, he didnt try to insist when I told him to call back later, and calling at absurd hours was normal for him as he did generally lack any respect for people in that regard. Had he succeeded in his attempt though id probably still be beating myself up over it.

These two are the correct responses. Professional help is not always the first step, the first defense for suicide is those around you, person felt comfortable around here. Ypu should always ask the person to of course seek proffesional help but to basically say "Fuck off, go see a psychiatrist" is not helpful. You have to talk to them, give then a safe place to vent and then suggest help.

Personally for me, I have been to psychiatrists multiple times. They don't really help if your not trying to help yourself. Hell i feel my old doctor was mu best psychiatrist. He explained to me that unless I want to get better, going to a psychiatrist wouldn't help much.

To end a long post, this person first step in getting better was to talk and vent. Having also posters marking and or saying shit like "This isn't the place" or being nasty in anyways is stupid. If you have notjing helpful to say the get the fuck out of the topic. As for mods, i feel the topic should be monitored. Any one trying to encourage the suicide attempt should be permabanned, but a warning should do. If the topic starts turning dark then yeah close it. but that's jsut my random two cents.

Yeah with said friend after failing to get through to our mutual friend through me he apparently sent a "cry for attention" style text to someone else and she didnt respond but instead forwarded it to his parents. They found him mere moments after he kicked the chair out from under hinself and was swinging. If he had gottend someone to talk to I doubt it would have gone that far.

Yeah. We have to take a class for it every year. Or multiple times a year. And they say to basically not blow them off. Talk to them. Try to see if they would talk to someone. Not to leave them alone. Stuff like that. But sometimes, talking to someone is what they need. Try not to make them feel unwanted. And dont make them feel like a nuisance...

I wish dude had given me some indication things where not ok. I assumed it was one of his numererous drunk middle of the night calls.
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yutterh posted...

These two are the correct responses. Professional help is not always the first step, the first defense for suicide is those around you, person felt comfortable around here. Ypu should always ask the person to of course seek proffesional help but to basically say "Fuck off, go see a psychiatrist" is not helpful. You have to talk to them, give then a safe place to vent and then suggest help.

Personally for me, I have been to psychiatrists multiple times. They don't really help if your not trying to help yourself. Hell i feel my old doctor was mu best psychiatrist. He explained to me that unless I want to get better, going to a psychiatrist wouldn't help much.

To end a long post, this person first step in getting better was to talk and vent. Having also posters marking and or saying shit like "This isn't the place" or being nasty in anyways is stupid. If you have notjing helpful to say the get the fuck out of the topic. As for mods, i feel the topic should be monitored. Any one trying to encourage the suicide attempt should be permabanned, but a warning should do. If the topic starts turning dark then yeah close it. but that's jsut my random two cents.

Revelation34 posted...

wwinterj25 posted...

That's a bit extreme. I'd rather they get help though personally and GameFAQs isn't the place for that.

That's clearly what the mods are going for though. It helps nobody suspending them.

Its a legal thing. Do nothing and could be sued by someone on the basis of having done nothing to prevent the suicide. Do something, even if its suspending the person, and it counts as having acted.

WastelandCowboy posted...

yutterh posted...

These two are the correct responses. Professional help is not always the first step, the first defense for suicide is those around you, person felt comfortable around here. Ypu should always ask the person to of course seek proffesional help but to basically say "Fuck off, go see a psychiatrist" is not helpful. You have to talk to them, give then a safe place to vent and then suggest help.

Personally for me, I have been to psychiatrists multiple times. They don't really help if your not trying to help yourself. Hell i feel my old doctor was mu best psychiatrist. He explained to me that unless I want to get better, going to a psychiatrist wouldn't help much.

To end a long post, this person first step in getting better was to talk and vent. Having also posters marking and or saying shit like "This isn't the place" or being nasty in anyways is stupid. If you have notjing helpful to say the get the fuck out of the topic. As for mods, i feel the topic should be monitored. Any one trying to encourage the suicide attempt should be permabanned, but a warning should do. If the topic starts turning dark then yeah close it. but that's jsut my random two cents.

Revelation34 posted...

wwinterj25 posted...

That's a bit extreme. I'd rather they get help though personally and GameFAQs isn't the place for that.

That's clearly what the mods are going for though. It helps nobody suspending them.

Its a legal thing. Do nothing and could be sued by someone on the basis of having done nothing to prevent the suicide. Do something, even if its suspending the person, and it counts as having acted.

Wouldnt just simply tossing up the suicide hotline number though count as doing something?
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WastelandCowboy posted...

Its a legal thing. Do nothing and could be sued by someone on the basis of having done nothing to prevent the suicide. Do something, even if its suspending the person, and it counts as having acted.

Only actively encouraging somebody to do it themselves would count for a lawsuit.
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Revelation34 posted...

WastelandCowboy posted...

Its a legal thing. Do nothing and could be sued by someone on the basis of having done nothing to prevent the suicide. Do something, even if its suspending the person, and it counts as having acted.

Only actively encouraging somebody to do it themselves would count for a lawsuit.

And I feel those people need to be modded with extreme prejudice. I dont care how clean their mod record is or if they arw a ? Block account. Encouraging suicide should be a instant suspension or ban.
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Mead posted...

Just being able to talk to someone is usually the best help

They should be sending personal messages to specific individuals, not suicide topics. The people who make those sort of topics just feed off the attention they get and it only makes them more likely to keep making those topics rather than actually seeking help. Then we also have all the trolls who would make topics like that just to amuse themselves. No thanks.

mooreandrew58 posted...

And I feel those people need to be modded with extreme prejudice. I dont care how clean their mod record is or if they arw a ? Block account. Encouraging suicide should be a instant suspension or ban.

I meant if the mods or admins themselves were doing it. Otherwise there would be no legal case.
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mooreandrew58 posted...

Revelation34 posted...

WastelandCowboy posted...

Its a legal thing. Do nothing and could be sued by someone on the basis of having done nothing to prevent the suicide. Do something, even if its suspending the person, and it counts as having acted.

Only actively encouraging somebody to do it themselves would count for a lawsuit.

And I feel those people need to be modded with extreme prejudice. I dont care how clean their mod record is or if they arw a ? Block account. Encouraging suicide should be a instant suspension or ban.

Why?

Revelation34 posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

And I feel those people need to be modded with extreme prejudice. I dont care how clean their mod record is or if they arw a ? Block account. Encouraging suicide should be a instant suspension or ban.

I meant if the mods or admins themselves were doing it. Otherwise there would be no legal case.

I was just saying I feel and hope those people that do get modded to hell and back. I mean its rather simple. If someone is talking like they are suicidal if you dont have anything positive to say stay out of it.
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mooreandrew58 posted...

WastelandCowboy posted...

yutterh posted...

These two are the correct responses. Professional help is not always the first step, the first defense for suicide is those around you, person felt comfortable around here. Ypu should always ask the person to of course seek proffesional help but to basically say "Fuck off, go see a psychiatrist" is not helpful. You have to talk to them, give then a safe place to vent and then suggest help.

Personally for me, I have been to psychiatrists multiple times. They don't really help if your not trying to help yourself. Hell i feel my old doctor was mu best psychiatrist. He explained to me that unless I want to get better, going to a psychiatrist wouldn't help much.

To end a long post, this person first step in getting better was to talk and vent. Having also posters marking and or saying shit like "This isn't the place" or being nasty in anyways is stupid. If you have notjing helpful to say the get the fuck out of the topic. As for mods, i feel the topic should be monitored. Any one trying to encourage the suicide attempt should be permabanned, but a warning should do. If the topic starts turning dark then yeah close it. but that's jsut my random two cents.

Revelation34 posted...

wwinterj25 posted...

That's a bit extreme. I'd rather they get help though personally and GameFAQs isn't the place for that.

That's clearly what the mods are going for though. It helps nobody suspending them.

Its a legal thing. Do nothing and could be sued by someone on the basis of having done nothing to prevent the suicide. Do something, even if its suspending the person, and it counts as having acted.

Wouldnt just simply tossing up the suicide hotline number though count as doing something?

I see suspending the person is kind of a insult honestly, most likely just make them feel worse. Since your basically punishing them for trying to seek help.

Tossing up the suicide hotline as the only thing you say is equally the same or not more insulting. I am sure they know what a suicide hotline is, most likely they can find the number on their own. Your basically saying they are bothering you and talk to someone else.

Handling a suicidal person isn't easy, hell I had to talk my little cousin off the edge more then once. Fuck I have to talk myself off the edge basically everyday. When someone comes to you or your website to talk about this stuff it's because they are confiding in you or the community. It can be a burden that one wants to deal with, which is why you just shouldn't say anything if your not gonna try to help, and just turning the person away is not helpful.
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yutterh posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

WastelandCowboy posted...

yutterh posted...

These two are the correct responses. Professional help is not always the first step, the first defense for suicide is those around you, person felt comfortable around here. Ypu should always ask the person to of course seek proffesional help but to basically say "Fuck off, go see a psychiatrist" is not helpful. You have to talk to them, give then a safe place to vent and then suggest help.

Personally for me, I have been to psychiatrists multiple times. They don't really help if your not trying to help yourself. Hell i feel my old doctor was mu best psychiatrist. He explained to me that unless I want to get better, going to a psychiatrist wouldn't help much.

To end a long post, this person first step in getting better was to talk and vent. Having also posters marking and or saying shit like "This isn't the place" or being nasty in anyways is stupid. If you have notjing helpful to say the get the fuck out of the topic. As for mods, i feel the topic should be monitored. Any one trying to encourage the suicide attempt should be permabanned, but a warning should do. If the topic starts turning dark then yeah close it. but that's jsut my random two cents.

Revelation34 posted...

wwinterj25 posted...

That's a bit extreme. I'd rather they get help though personally and GameFAQs isn't the place for that.

That's clearly what the mods are going for though. It helps nobody suspending them.

Its a legal thing. Do nothing and could be sued by someone on the basis of having done nothing to prevent the suicide. Do something, even if its suspending the person, and it counts as having acted.

Wouldnt just simply tossing up the suicide hotline number though count as doing something?

I see suspending the person is kind of a insult honestly, most likely just make them feel worse. Since your basically punishing them for trying to seek help.

Tossing up the suicide hotline as the only thing you say is equally the same or not more insulting. I am sure they know what a suicide hotline is, most likely they can find the number on their own. Your basically saying they are bothering you and talk to someone else.

Handling a suicidal person isn't easy, hell I had to talk my little cousin off the edge more then once. Fuck I have to talk myself off the edge basically everyday. When someone comes to you or your website to talk about this stuff it's because they are confiding in you or the community. It can be a burden that one wants to deal with, which is why you just shouldn't say anything if your not gonna try to help, and just turning the person away is not helpful.

I was just talking on the "legal reasons" thing. I completely understand the covering your ass mentality
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TentacleDemon posted...

Mead posted...

Just being able to talk to someone is usually the best help

They should be sending personal messages to specific individuals, not suicide topics. The people who make those sort of topics just feed off the attention they get and it only makes them more likely to keep making those topics rather than actually seeking help. Then we also have all the trolls who would make topics like that just to amuse themselves. No thanks.

Who are you to say what kind of help people shouldnt seek out

If some attention helps them get through a tough time thats hardly the worst thing in the world.

They could even move such topics to a dedicated help board with a disclaimer informing users that gamefaqs does not employ mental health professionals or take responsibility for users mental health.
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Mead posted...

TentacleDemon posted...

Mead posted...

Just being able to talk to someone is usually the best help

They should be sending personal messages to specific individuals, not suicide topics. The people who make those sort of topics just feed off the attention they get and it only makes them more likely to keep making those topics rather than actually seeking help. Then we also have all the trolls who would make topics like that just to amuse themselves. No thanks.

Who are you to say what kind of help people shouldnt seek out

If some attention helps them get through a tough time thats hardly the worst thing in the world.

They could even move such topics to a dedicated help board with a disclaimer informing users that gamefaqs does not employ mental health professionals or take responsibility for users mental health.

Also maybe they dont have anyone specific to message. So throwing a line out and hooing someone has beem through similar and might be able to relate and offer advice based on what helped them.
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mooreandrew58 posted...

Mead posted...

TentacleDemon posted...

Mead posted...

Just being able to talk to someone is usually the best help

They should be sending personal messages to specific individuals, not suicide topics. The people who make those sort of topics just feed off the attention they get and it only makes them more likely to keep making those topics rather than actually seeking help. Then we also have all the trolls who would make topics like that just to amuse themselves. No thanks.

Who are you to say what kind of help people shouldnt seek out

If some attention helps them get through a tough time thats hardly the worst thing in the world.

They could even move such topics to a dedicated help board with a disclaimer informing users that gamefaqs does not employ mental health professionals or take responsibility for users mental health.

Also maybe they dont have anyone specific to message. So throwing a line out and hooing someone has beem through similar and might be able to relate and offer advice based on what helped them.

True. Reaching out to a community instead of an individual...

Plus, if said individual isnt on for whatever reason, that could end up making them feel worse...
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LinkPizza posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

Mead posted...

TentacleDemon posted...

Mead posted...

Just being able to talk to someone is usually the best help

They should be sending personal messages to specific individuals, not suicide topics. The people who make those sort of topics just feed off the attention they get and it only makes them more likely to keep making those topics rather than actually seeking help. Then we also have all the trolls who would make topics like that just to amuse themselves. No thanks.

Who are you to say what kind of help people shouldnt seek out

If some attention helps them get through a tough time thats hardly the worst thing in the world.

They could even move such topics to a dedicated help board with a disclaimer informing users that gamefaqs does not employ mental health professionals or take responsibility for users mental health.

Also maybe they dont have anyone specific to message. So throwing a line out and hooing someone has beem through similar and might be able to relate and offer advice based on what helped them.

True. Reaching out to a community instead of an individual...

Plus, if said individual isnt on for whatever reason, that could end up making them feel worse...

Yeah been there dome that. When super depressed and people dont respond sometimes the thought creeps into mind they arent responding because you are bugging them and the last thing a depressed person wants is to feel like they are being a burden.
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WastelandCowboy posted...

Its a liability issue. Simple as that.

Someone posts about being suicidal and GameFAQs has to protect itself from liability of the suicide and the user from being goaded into committing suicide by others.

Amazing how people dont / wont understand this.
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it's a shame that we have to walk on eggshells with some topics of discussion in this world. it'd be nice if most people were less of an a** and more helpful to those that need it (both humans and animals).

there are times where i'm not always around gamefaqs to see that I got a pm, so i'd rather respond to someone in a topic, and tell them if they need to vent, i'm here and to send a pm if they wish.

there are times where I wish that what almost happened to me in the past, really happened. and that there are times where I wish I wasn't around, and that I feel like i'm a bother to those around me. then I think about that, and realize that too many people in my life, here, and on facebook would miss me too much and wonder what happened.

i'd like to think that this place can be a good support system for those that need it, with certain individual that would reach out and help in any way that they can (I certainly try to help when I can, and would've in this case)
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Meh. If someone is so depressed why are we protecting them? There's enough insane people out there already. Let nature run its course. It's not our job to intervene.

Besides, WTF is so bad that you'd get to that point? You dropped your ice cream, might as well end it... Bad relationship? Don't get into one. Bullies? Cave in a locker door with their face. Moral of the story is to ignore the mass of bullshit out there. It's needless stress. Build a bubble to block it and settle in. You'll never be angry a day in your life.
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DPsx7 posted...

Meh. If someone is so depressed why are we protecting them? There's enough insane people out there already. Let nature run its course. It's not our job to intervene.

Besides, WTF is so bad that you'd get to that point? You dropped your ice cream, might as well end it... Bad relationship? Don't get into one. Bullies? Cave in a locker door with their face. Moral of the story is to ignore the mass of bullshit out there. It's needless stress. Build a bubble to block it and settle in. You'll never be angry a day in your life.

For you, maybe that stuff works. But youre also not normal, no offense...
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DPsx7 posted...

Meh. If someone is so depressed why are we protecting them? There's enough insane people out there already. Let nature run its course. It's not our job to intervene.

Besides, WTF is so bad that you'd get to that point? You dropped your ice cream, might as well end it... Bad relationship? Don't get into one. Bullies? Cave in a locker door with their face. Moral of the story is to ignore the mass of bullshit out there. It's needless stress. Build a bubble to block it and settle in. You'll never be angry a day in your life.

It's not really that things can get so bad, depression and suicidal tendencies are a mental problem. Sometimes it can be serious shit and other times it can just be a terrible moment. Everyone has a different mental fortitude and trigger. It's not right to look down on others jsut because your not bothered by things that others are.
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rexcrk posted...

Amazing how people dont / wont understand this.

Find just ONE case where a website was found responsible for some users encouraging suicide.

DPsx7 posted...

Meh. If someone is so depressed why are we protecting them? There's enough insane people out there already. Let nature run its course. It's not our job to intervene.

Besides, WTF is so bad that you'd get to that point? You dropped your ice cream, might as well end it... Bad relationship? Don't get into one. Bullies? Cave in a locker door with their face. Moral of the story is to ignore the mass of bullshit out there. It's needless stress. Build a bubble to block it and settle in. You'll never be angry a day in your life.

Don't forget Steam being malware on your computer.
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DPsx7 posted...

Meh. If someone is so depressed why are we protecting them? There's enough insane people out there already. Let nature run its course. It's not our job to intervene.

Besides, WTF is so bad that you'd get to that point? You dropped your ice cream, might as well end it... Bad relationship? Don't get into one. Bullies? Cave in a locker door with their face. Moral of the story is to ignore the mass of bulls*** out there. It's needless stress. Build a bubble to block it and settle in. You'll never be angry a day in your life.

You might as well have told starving peasants to eat cake. That's how clueless, self-centered and naive you're being right now. If you needed help, wouldn't you want people to give a crap? Would you really just sit there and "let nature run its course"?
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Lirishae posted...

Would you really just sit there and "let nature run its course"?

He would.
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LinkPizza posted...

DPsx7 posted...

Meh. If someone is so depressed why are we protecting them? There's enough insane people out there already. Let nature run its course. It's not our job to intervene.

Besides, WTF is so bad that you'd get to that point? You dropped your ice cream, might as well end it... Bad relationship? Don't get into one. Bullies? Cave in a locker door with their face. Moral of the story is to ignore the mass of bullshit out there. It's needless stress. Build a bubble to block it and settle in. You'll never be angry a day in your life.

For you, maybe that stuff works. But youre also not normal, no offense...

That much is obvious. Ha. But it works. If I say 'I'm above all that' then it's not related to an ego trip. You focus on you. Don't do anything if you dislike it. My friends eventually stopped dragging me to movies is just one example.

Everyone needs to stop caring what others think. Why fuss over mundane things.
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Revelation34 posted...

Don't forget Steam being malware on your computer.

Not anymore. Part of me is glad Epic is screwing them over.
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Lirishae posted...

You might as well have told starving peasants to eat cake. That's how clueless, self-centered and naive you're being right now. If you needed help, wouldn't you want people to give a crap? Would you really just sit there and "let nature run its course"?

Depends on the situation. Injured at work? Help would be ok, there are programs for that. If you're a low income mom who keeps having children, then no. That was preventable and a poor decision.

I'm not clueless, far from it. Some things happen for a reason and trying to fix the course of nature is creating a slippery slope. Too much fraud. Feel bad for the homeless guy asking for change? What happens when the next guy also has a pity sign but you notice a cell phone in their pocket? Someone wants to end it all but we have to 'save them' and lock them up for years. How is that better?

I can turn this into a rant beyond the scope of this topic so I'll save ya from the essay. I don't think along the same lines as everyone else.
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DPsx7 posted...

LinkPizza posted...

DPsx7 posted...

Meh. If someone is so depressed why are we protecting them? There's enough insane people out there already. Let nature run its course. It's not our job to intervene.

Besides, WTF is so bad that you'd get to that point? You dropped your ice cream, might as well end it... Bad relationship? Don't get into one. Bullies? Cave in a locker door with their face. Moral of the story is to ignore the mass of bullshit out there. It's needless stress. Build a bubble to block it and settle in. You'll never be angry a day in your life.

For you, maybe that stuff works. But youre also not normal, no offense...

That much is obvious. Ha. But it works. If I say 'I'm above all that' then it's not related to an ego trip. You focus on you. Don't do anything if you dislike it. My friends eventually stopped dragging me to movies is just one example.

Everyone needs to stop caring what others think. Why fuss over mundane things.

It does always work... For example, with the bullies. Most of the time, bullies pick on the ones that cant do anything. So, caving in a locker door with their face probably wont work. And most normal people like human interaction. So, a bad relationship sucks, but no relationship also sucks. That being said, you could also be in a good relationship where someone is taken away from you...
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DPsx7 posted...

I don't think along the same lines as everyone else.

I wouldn't say that. I've met plenty of people on the internet devoid of basic human empathy who like to victim-blame. You do realize this is a psychological defense mechanism where you convince yourself that bad things won't happen to you because you're smarter/better than everyone else, right? Sympathy don't cost you a dime, honey. In the end, you're just like everyone else. Disaster can strike you at any time through no fault of your own. That's just how this world is.
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Lirishae posted...

Sympathy don't cost you a dime, honey.

Not directly, but it's very costly to act on it.
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LinkPizza posted...

It does always work... For example, with the bullies. Most of the time, bullies pick on the ones that cant do anything. So, caving in a locker door with their face probably wont work. And most normal people like human interaction. So, a bad relationship sucks, but no relationship also sucks. That being said, you could also be in a good relationship where someone is taken away from you...

Then dump some white out into their milk, whatever works. Bullies also tend to be stupid so get creative. Get their pic, make a decal, sneak it into one of the guys urinals.

You'd think so but society is getting more annoying by the day. Entertainment is skewing towards the solo side. It's time to break away from that idea.
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not all depression comes from bullies or whatnot

Annoyedcops sounds like he has actual chemical depression. I have that too. it's something you are born with. my mom has it. and I inherited it. it's genetic . it makes you sometimes sad for no reason. or things are easier to get you sad. the chemicals in your brain are imbalanced and shift you towards bad emotions.

Lirishae posted...

DPsx7 posted...

I don't think along the same lines as everyone else.

I wouldn't say that. I've met plenty of people on the internet devoid of basic human empathy who like to victim-blame. You do realize this is a psychological defense mechanism where you convince yourself that bad things won't happen to you because you're smarter/better than everyone else, right? Sympathy don't cost you a dime, honey. In the end, you're just like everyone else. Disaster can strike you at any time through no fault of your own. That's just how this world is.

Not if you're careful to avoid those situations. It's what you allow. Maybe you lose $100 at a casino. Pets unfortunately pass on. Cars wear out. There are so many things you can cut out though.
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DPsx7 posted...

LinkPizza posted...

It does always work... For example, with the bullies. Most of the time, bullies pick on the ones that cant do anything. So, caving in a locker door with their face probably wont work. And most normal people like human interaction. So, a bad relationship sucks, but no relationship also sucks. That being said, you could also be in a good relationship where someone is taken away from you...

Then dump some white out into their milk, whatever works. Bullies also tend to be stupid so get creative. Get their pic, make a decal, sneak it into one of the guys urinals.

You'd think so but society is getting more annoying by the day. Entertainment is skewing towards the solo side. It's time to break away from that idea.

You think? I havent seen. Ive seen less marriages and less kids (being replaced with pets usually). But I havent seen more single people. Well, that want to be single.
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DPsx7 posted...

Lirishae posted...

DPsx7 posted...

I don't think along the same lines as everyone else.

I wouldn't say that. I've met plenty of people on the internet devoid of basic human empathy who like to victim-blame. You do realize this is a psychological defense mechanism where you convince yourself that bad things won't happen to you because you're smarter/better than everyone else, right? Sympathy don't cost you a dime, honey. In the end, you're just like everyone else. Disaster can strike you at any time through no fault of your own. That's just how this world is.

Not if you're careful to avoid those situations. It's what you allow. Maybe you lose $100 at a casino. Pets unfortunately pass on. Cars wear out. There are so many things you can cut out though.

It seems like you want to get rid of the good or best parts of life just so you wont Have the sad parts. Like breaking up in a relationship or losing them because of their death sucks. You can cut that out by not having a relationship. But thats a pretty good part of life. And most people would like a lifelong companion. As an example...
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DPsx7 posted...

What happens when the next guy also has a pity sign but you notice a cell phone in their pocket?

I didn't know you had xray vision.

Lirishae posted...

I've met plenty of people on the internet devoid of basic human empathy who like to victim-blame.

Victim blaming has turned into what it actually means into something else now though.
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Revelation34 posted...

Victim blaming has turned into what it actually means into something else now though.

According to poudmetoo, you're a victim if you think you are. No actual events needed to be a victim anymore.
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The_tall_midget posted...

Revelation34 posted...

Victim blaming has turned into what it actually means into something else now though.

According to poudmetoo, you're a victim if you think you are. No actual events needed to be a victim anymore.

That's called a victim complex.
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Solid Sonic posted...

That's called a victim complex.

Don't tell them that, they'll call you a misogynist/bigot/racist/Nazi/incel.
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The_tall_midget posted...

Solid Sonic posted...

That's called a victim complex.

Don't tell them that, they'll call you a misogynist/bigot/racist/Nazi.

I like when salty people knee-jerk accusations in my direction.
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Solid Sonic posted...

I like when salty people knee-jerk accusations in my direction.

It is quite entertaining. Damn it, I forgot incel.

Edit: Inserted incel to be more appropriate to the insult pool of modern reggresives.
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The_tall_midget posted...

According to poudmetoo, you're a victim if you think you are. No actual events needed to be a victim anymore.

I meant along the lines saying there's no evidence something happened.
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LinkPizza posted...

DPsx7 posted...

LinkPizza posted...

It does always work... For example, with the bullies. Most of the time, bullies pick on the ones that cant do anything. So, caving in a locker door with their face probably wont work. And most normal people like human interaction. So, a bad relationship sucks, but no relationship also sucks. That being said, you could also be in a good relationship where someone is taken away from you...

Then dump some white out into their milk, whatever works. Bullies also tend to be stupid so get creative. Get their pic, make a decal, sneak it into one of the guys urinals.

You'd think so but society is getting more annoying by the day. Entertainment is skewing towards the solo side. It's time to break away from that idea.

You think? I havent seen. Ive seen less marriages and less kids (being replaced with pets usually). But I havent seen more single people. Well, that want to be single.

Pets are better behaved. Then with Netflix and phones, VR, online gaming, and whatever else it's not like you need a crowd. I made do and I haven't known too many people for years.
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LinkPizza posted...

It seems like you want to get rid of the good or best parts of life just so you wont Have the sad parts. Like breaking up in a relationship or losing them because of their death sucks. You can cut that out by not having a relationship. But thats a pretty good part of life. And most people would like a lifelong companion. As an example...

Ha, 'good'... Cats will fit that problem. They won't argue. You don't know what a person will turn into.
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Revelation34 posted...

DPsx7 posted...

What happens when the next guy also has a pity sign but you notice a cell phone in their pocket?

I didn't know you had xray vision.

They kinda stick out ya know? Or you see one who forgot to put away their Starbucks and scratchies/lotto. Ooh better yet was the time this guy asked for $5 for gas because his mom was sick in the hospital. The same guy asked the same question a couple weeks later and when I pressed him, he left never to return. Those people ruin for those who could honestly use the $5 (if they exist).

The_tall_midget posted...

Solid Sonic posted...

That's called a victim complex.

Don't tell them that, they'll call you a misogynist/bigot/racist/Nazi/incel.

That's the moment you label them exceptionally stupid. Few know what those words mean, they toss 'em around to sound intelligent and 'modern'. Those folks need to go over the wall.
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Depression is malware.
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