Current Events > Got a Switch. What the hell, you can't turn off the console using the joycons?

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Or any controller? You have to manually press down on the power button (which is kinda awkward when it's docked because you don't want to press too hard) and then select the "power off" using the controller?

What the actual fuck. The Wii had a power off button on the wii-mote. How is this an overlooked oversight? Instead of a dedicated picture button, they should have maybe considered a power button?

It's such a small thing, I can't even. For some people's setup this is highly inconvenient since the console might be at the bottom of a tv stand and bending over every time to turn it on and off is a hassle that not even the old consoles of the 90s had (since you didn't have to hard press and wait to see if it actually turned on or not)
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I'm sorry to hear that.
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Why would you ever want to turn it off though

You can turn it off just press the home button and navigate to sleep
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the switch is meant to almost always be in sleep mode unless you need to transport it somewhere or give it a hard reset
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Can't you just press Home and shut it off from the home screen?
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Sleep mode for the Switch is essentially it's "power down" feature. You're technically not meant to turn the console off, often. When you leave it in sleep mode, and when it's docked, it's not drawing power from the battery.

You can put the console in sleep mode three ways, without actually pushing the button.
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Im 99% positive power options are available through the menu like every other current console.
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PoopPotato posted...

Can't you just press Home and shut it off from the home screen?

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Do you not have any other modern console?
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Hold down the Home button (tiny button on the right side) to get the menu that allows you to power down.

You're welcome.
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CRON posted...

Sleep mode for the Switch is essentially it's "power down" feature. You're technically not meant to turn the console off, often. When you leave it in sleep mode, and when it's docked, it's not drawing power from the battery.

You can put the console in sleep mode three ways, without actually pushing the button.

It does draw power from the battery, just significantly less. Also another thing to note is that if you drain the battery it needs to charge for a few minutes before you can play it again, even docked.
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Paragon21XX posted...

Hold down the Home button (tiny button on the right side) to get the menu that allows you to power down.

You're welcome.

This.
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I wasn't aware I could turn it off at all actually
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Lmao I bet this guy actually connects his switch to a TV

Romulox28 posted...

the switch is meant to almost always be in sleep mode unless you need to transport it somewhere or give it a hard reset

Why is it meant to always be in sleep mode? Can't find anything in the manual about that. That's like saying the DS or whatever should always be in sleep mode and never actually turned off. Just curious if there's a reason you say that.

CRON posted...

Sleep mode for the Switch is essentially it's "power down" feature. You're technically not meant to turn the console off, often. When you leave it in sleep mode, and when it's docked, it's not drawing power from the battery.

You can put the console in sleep mode three ways, without actually pushing the button.

Why do you say it's not meant to be turned off? Sleep mode means it's still technically on, just in a more powered down state. But it's still on. It's still draining power isn't it? Also while I'm not sure about overheating, I know that with consoles it's best I turn them off since I might not get a chance to play them in many days, sometimes weeks on end, so obviously having them be in sleep mode and draining power and electricity isn't the best option is it?
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saspa posted...

Why is it meant to always be in sleep mode? Can't find anything in the manual about that. That's like saying the DS or whatever should always be in sleep mode and never actually turned off. Just curious if there's a reason you say that.

its just kind of how electronics are now in 2019, sleep mode enables the switch to download updates and shit while it's not in use, enables faster bootup time, etc and there's no moving parts in the switch (i.e. mechanical hard drive) so nothing's really getting worn out. similar to how you probably next to never turn off your phone unless it's a quick reset or you're going on a plane or something
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that's the least of the issues. the joycons develop stick drift after a month. it's absolute trash.
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Yeha I would like to see something official from Nintendo. Until then, I will occasionally power down entirely.
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CheekSqueak posted...

that's the least of the issues. the joycons develop stick drift after a month. it's absolute trash.

Stick drift you say? What's that? I got a pro controller for a traditional console experience, but didn't know that the switch came with a specific grip for the joycons. Ah well I'll benefit from the extra controller.
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ocelot51 posted...

Why would you ever want to turn it off though

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Romulox28 posted...

saspa posted...

Why is it meant to always be in sleep mode? Can't find anything in the manual about that. That's like saying the DS or whatever should always be in sleep mode and never actually turned off. Just curious if there's a reason you say that.

its just kind of how electronics are now in 2019, sleep mode enables the switch to download updates and shit while it's not in use, enables faster bootup time, etc and there's no moving parts in the switch (i.e. mechanical hard drive) so nothing's really getting worn out. similar to how you probably next to never turn off your phone unless it's a quick reset or you're going on a plane or something

Hmm that's true I almost never turn off my phone, not even on the plane. But then again we tend to "upgrade" our phones every couple of years while for consoles I expect to have 10-20 year life on the same model, if not more since I don't upgrade consoles. Still have a working 64 (but admittedly the old consoles are much less complicated than they are now) and I hope my wii and ps3 continue to last for a long time.

What surprised me (in a good way) with the Switch is how tiny it was. The box was small but I had no idea how small the actual device really was, amazing that it can play these high quality games likes that recent zelda on such a small cartridge and device. So I'm hoping it's true that there aren't any internal devices that will be worn out from my leaving the console in sleep mode.

I don't know if it's supposed to be a handheld primarily but I'm gonna be using it exclusively in docked mode, and will pretty much never take it off the dock, for what that's worth.
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There's no benefit to turning it off, really. Just dock it
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Even the Wii back in 2006 was like this. You could put it in a sort of "sleep" mode from the remote, but to power it down fully, you had to actually hold in the power button on the console itself.
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Powering off a Switch also powers off the controller-listener radio.
Getting up off the couch to turn it off just means you have to get off the couch to turn it on again.

ultimate reaver posted...

There's no benefit to turning it off, really. Just dock it

Switching memory cards without turning it off is apparently a risk.
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Questionmarktarius posted...

Powering off a Switch also powers off the controller-listener radio.
Getting up off the couch to turn it off just means you have to get off the couch to turn it on again.

Which is why sleep is more than good enough for docked.
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If you leave it docked it comes on in seconds from sleep and that's the whole idea

You're only really supposed to turn it off when you're not gonna be using it for a long time
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Kisai posted...

Even the Wii back in 2006 was like this. You could put it in a sort of "sleep" mode from the remote, but to power it down fully, you had to actually hold in the power button on the console itself.

It's interesting you bring that up. I remember when they were going on about "Wiiconnect24" at that popular game convention and how the console would get updates even when powered down. So you had it go from green (power on) to orange (powered down but with Wiiconnect24 still on) to red. You got red by going to the settings and turning of wiiconnect24, which I did within the first few months of owning a Wii. I don't like my consoles hooked up to the internet unless with my say so, since I prefer offline play for everything.

This time however they didn't even put that option. Still tentative about leaving it in sleep mode, I'm gonna see what the consensus is since there's several factors to consider on my end when it comes to leaving it powered on.
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What I hate is turning it off handheld, and then it turns back on when you dock it.

AvantgardeAClue posted...

not gonna be using it for a long time

None of the good games are out yet so yeah, it has been long times between uses.
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DoomSwell posted...

What I hate is turning it off handheld, and then it turns back on when you dock it.

AvantgardeAClue posted...

not gonna be using it for a long time

None of the good games are out yet so yeah, it has been long times between uses.

That actually doesn't happen. You put it in sleep mode and then plug it in, it'll show the battery icon then charge normally.

And lol@ no good games. We gonna pretend that Odyssey doesn't exist then
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Makeveli_lives posted...

I wasn't aware I could turn it off at all actually

Actually you used to be able to turn it off. They disabled that feature though you can still do it from the power button on the console itself.
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Tyranthraxus posted...

Makeveli_lives posted...

I wasn't aware I could turn it off at all actually

Actually you used to be able to turn it off. They disabled that feature though you can still do it from the power button on the console itself.

Wait that can't be right. They disabled a feature? It's impossible to believe they'd do something so bizarrely spiteful like that.
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@AvantgardeAClue posted...

That actually doesn't happen. You put it in sleep mode and then plug it in, it'll show the battery icon then charge normally.

And lol@ no good games. We gonna pretend that Odyssey doesn't exist then

Except it do. I turn it OFF and it comes back on in sleep mode when I dock it.

Mario and Zelda were great launch titles, but the Switch has been out a year or two now.
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Well I got Bayonetta, Okami, and smash and mk. I'm less likely to play smash and mk because they're multiplayer and unlike 10 years ago in college, I don't really have video game friends to play them with :( . Won't play okami either since I already beat it on the wii and just got it again because okami.

So Bayonetta is the one I'll be playing along with zelda and mario odyssey, and I'm hoping that the grandia 2 port isn't vaporware since I want to try that game if it's better than the 1st like people claim.
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Paragon21XX posted...

Hold down the Home button (tiny button on the right side) to get the menu that allows you to power down.

You're welcome.

This. Home button is the way to go.
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LostForest posted...

Paragon21XX posted...

Hold down the Home button (tiny button on the right side) to get the menu that allows you to power down.

You're welcome.

This. Home button is the way to go.

No that still only suspends the system. The only way to actually power it down is to hold the button on the console itself.

saspa posted...

Wait that can't be right. They disabled a feature? It's impossible to believe they'd do something so bizarrely spiteful like that.

I think it was done because you cannot power it on wirelessly.

Also it's not the first time features have been disabled. There's a long history of consoles cutting out shit that they were shipped with. The first major one was OtherOS
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DoomSwell posted...

@AvantgardeAClue posted...

That actually doesn't happen. You put it in sleep mode and then plug it in, it'll show the battery icon then charge normally.

And lol@ no good games. We gonna pretend that Odyssey doesn't exist then

Except it do. I turn it OFF and it comes back on in sleep mode when I dock it.

Mario and Zelda were great launch titles, but the Switch has been out a year or two now.

3 years. And Mario wasn't a launch title, it took like 6 to 7 months to drop.

saspa posted...

Well I got Bayonetta, Okami, and smash and mk. I'm less likely to play smash and mk because they're multiplayer

Should've got mortal kombat on the other consoles if at all, looks like dog shit on the switch.

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Tyranthraxus posted...

No that still only suspends the system. The only way to actually power it down is to hold the button on the console itself.

Why the fuck would you even want to do that with a docked Switch?
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Paragon21XX posted...

Tyranthraxus posted...

No that still only suspends the system. The only way to actually power it down is to hold the button on the console itself.

Why the fuck would you even want to do that with a docked Switch?

You would (should) only do it if you know you can't actually play it for an extended period of time.

Like maybe you're going out to a hunting lodge for several weeks where there's no power except for a single generator and a limited supply of fuel so you just leave anything unecessary at home.
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It's annoying. Very stupid that they make it difficult to actually turn off. The 3DS is also pretty annoying to actually turn off, for no good reason
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switch is essentially a console with gen 5 features
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Is it a console or handheld? This being both thing is kinda weird, I'm surprised it's so successful.
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Makeveli_lives posted...

DoomSwell posted...

@AvantgardeAClue posted...

That actually doesn't happen. You put it in sleep mode and then plug it in, it'll show the battery icon then charge normally.

And lol@ no good games. We gonna pretend that Odyssey doesn't exist then

Except it do. I turn it OFF and it comes back on in sleep mode when I dock it.

Mario and Zelda were great launch titles, but the Switch has been out a year or two now.

3 years.

Why are you rounding 3 months up to another year?
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saspa posted...

Is it a console or handheld? This being both thing is kinda weird, I'm surprised it's so successful.

It's a tablet with HDMI out. Not that difficult.
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Zack_Attackv1 posted...

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Lol'd at "how can you call it a Switch if it doesn't even have a switch to turn on and off" and holy shit I just realized how true that statement is, how utterly ironic.

That being said his main complaint doesn't sound the same as mine but I think I get what he's trying to say. He only mentioned my specific complaint at the very end and I feel that should have been the main focus of the video since I'm not sure what his main complaint was about.
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I feel like I'm in one of those horrible infomercials that play on some back-end network at 4 AM.
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I've turned my Switch off I think twice in the entire time I've owned it.

How is this a problem?
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