Current Events > Fact check: Trump's Orlando rally featured more than 15 false claims over 76 min

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Hanky_Bannister
06/19/19 12:48:36 PM
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President Donald Trump kicked off his formal reelection campaign Tuesday night with a rally in Orlando. His 76-minute speech featured more than 15 false statements, many of them ones that he's repeated frequently in the past

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/19/politics/fact-check-trump-orlando-rally/index.html
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MC_BatCommander
06/19/19 12:49:53 PM
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It's okay when he does it because he's a republican
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gp1829
06/19/19 12:50:47 PM
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Only 15?
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Hanky_Bannister
06/19/19 12:52:40 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
It's okay when he does it because he's a republican

P much
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Caution999
06/19/19 12:55:57 PM
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CNN has no credibility imo
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Pukelid
06/19/19 12:56:17 PM
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Caution999 posted...
CNN has no credibility imo

If anyone responds to this guy it will effectively end the topic

just a psa for the usual suspects who cant resist
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Hanky_Bannister
06/19/19 12:57:54 PM
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Pukelid posted...
Caution999 posted...
CNN has no credibility imo

If anyone responds to this guy it will effectively end the topic

just a psa for the usual suspects who cant resist

Yea its pathetic
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Phantom_Nook
06/19/19 12:58:39 PM
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clearly he's just telling it like it is.
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spudger
06/19/19 12:59:30 PM
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Pukelid posted...
Caution999 posted...
CNN has no credibility imo

If anyone responds to this guy it will effectively end the topic

just a psa for the usual suspects who cant resist

whats amazing is that even when confront with factual data that is inarguable they act like trump; stick their heads in the sand, and yell "FAEK NEWZZ"
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Zikten
06/19/19 1:01:21 PM
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Why is the crowd still cheering about the wall? He's obviously never going to do it. If he was allowed to run a third time he would bring it up again in another 4 years
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06/19/19 1:01:54 PM
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spudger
06/19/19 1:02:50 PM
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Zikten posted...
Why is the crowd still cheering about the wall? He's obviously never going to do it. If he was allowed to run a third time he would bring it up again in another 4 years

he never got mexico to pay for it either
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gikos
06/19/19 1:03:55 PM
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gp1829 posted...
Only 15?

what happened this isn't like him at all
did he forget to take his big mac to boost him up for the rally?
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Bishop9800
06/19/19 1:08:35 PM
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Caution999 posted...
CNN has no credibility imo


Neither do you
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Doom_Art
06/19/19 1:08:36 PM
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It's too early for a Caution melty
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spudger
06/19/19 1:08:44 PM
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another caution melty

this is pathetic
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Pukelid
06/19/19 1:10:37 PM
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Ok topic is effectively dead.
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spudger
06/19/19 1:11:26 PM
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Pukelid posted...
Ok topic is effectively dead.

maybe hes a trump agent and this is his job
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s0nicfan
06/19/19 1:12:04 PM
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Some of these are really pedantic, like calling it a lie that we're now number one in energy exports because 2/3 of those we were already number one in years ago, or calling it a lie that dems voted for a wall because it was really a fence. Or saying Obama doing nothing before then election was a lie because he personally told Putin to "cut it out". Or saying Hillary deleting emails was a lie because BleachBit isn't literally bleach.

Many are very clearly untrue, but a bunch feel like CNN tying to pad the list.
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Pukelid
06/19/19 1:13:37 PM
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spudger posted...
Pukelid posted...
Ok topic is effectively dead.

maybe hes a trump agent and this is his job

Well, yes and no. His goal is to kill discussion, muddy the waters, and waste ppls time. You guys help him every time. He's actually really good at trolling I guess, since the same few people absolutely cannot pass up on responding to him.
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spudger
06/19/19 1:13:38 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Some of these are really pedantic, like calling it a lie that we're now number one in energy exports because 2/3 of those we were already number one in years ago, or calling it a lie that dems voted for a wall because it was really a fence. Or saying Obama doing nothing before then election was a lie because he personally told Putin to "cut it out". Or saying Hillary deleting emails was a lie because BleachBit isn't literally bleach.

Many are very clearly untrue, but a bunch feel like CNN tying to pad the list.

when you have a president who habitually lies you need to focus on every one and bring it to light.

he's lying scum
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PleaseClap
06/19/19 1:13:41 PM
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Caution999 posted...
Fox has TRIPLE those ratings because they've earned something called credibility.

Lmao
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BLAKUboy
06/19/19 1:14:24 PM
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Pukelid posted...
If anyone responds to this guy it will effectively end the topic

just a psa for the usual suspects who cant resist

This counts as feeding, by the way.
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Guide
06/19/19 1:14:50 PM
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Caution, I don't wanna call you a duck dodger, but you're ducking and dodging me.
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Pukelid
06/19/19 1:15:52 PM
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BLAKUboy posted...
Pukelid posted...
If anyone responds to this guy it will effectively end the topic

just a psa for the usual suspects who cant resist

This counts as feeding, by the way.

Only if no one listens to me. Which I guess happened so yea
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gikos
06/19/19 1:16:26 PM
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PleaseClap posted...
Caution999 posted...
Fox has TRIPLE those ratings because they've earned something called credibility.

Lmao

didn't trump recently turn on his fox & friends so still think that or you are now going to change your tune now
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MacDaMurderer
06/19/19 1:24:26 PM
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All these news reports were saying over 70000 people were trying to get tickets to this thing. My coworker said she went over there after work with no tickets. Just walked in security check her bags without asking for a ticket and she sat down without issue.

So how exactly where was the 70000 people at?
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spudger
06/19/19 1:24:51 PM
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Conflict posted...
PleaseClap posted...
Caution999 posted...
Fox has TRIPLE those ratings because they've earned something called credibility.

Lmao


I didn't even notice that

Hysterical

hes ventured into DE levels of gimmickry
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hockeybub89
06/19/19 1:26:13 PM
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spudger
06/19/19 1:39:56 PM
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how his cult continue to believe in spite of truth is really pathetic

it truly is a cult
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Bossdog421
06/19/19 2:35:19 PM
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This is why this shit cant be taken seriously.

Everything they claim is false, they admit Trump is actually right in a lot of this. Most of it is just word play or misleading people into thinking a statement is flase.

Energy - They claim it's wrong, cite data on a more general item than mentioned (petroleum instead of Oil) then go on to say yeah we just got # in crude oil this year... yeah that makes Trumps statement true...

Russia - He said 40 mill, we don't know the number so he must be lying! No you don't have proof that makes it a concrete lie?

The Wall - Dems didn't vote for a wall... they voted for a fence!! I mean really?

Environment- If you read the paragraph directly below the paragraph in the article they quote... While this is a significant spike in areas with unhealthy levels of ozone and particle pollution, it remains still far below the 166 million in the years covered in the 2016 report . It's like they are counting on no one reading the actual source. That's not dishonest at all...

Clinton emails - They didnt "acid wash" they used a program called bleachbit... Talk about semantics. Acid wash is a general term for the process... It's why the program is called bleachbit (bleach is used to acid wash jeans)

Factory production - Why is this even on the list? The only thing in the fact check is them saying trump is right... LITERALLY . Seriously read it!!!! They aren't even trying and you still gobble it up! Maybe because he rounded up to 60K from 59,794?

China - The harp on the 500 / 507 number. If you look at the report the number was down by 507 exactly in April. It could have been explained better i guess but it's a rally. They even say he didnt mention trade deficit specifically but claim hes done do more than "100 times in the past" Why isn't that being fact checked...

Unemployment - First they attempt to take steam away from the African American number, but just agree before saying it was more impactful during Obama. Total # 50 years vs him saying 51...

Trade - On auto they completely avoid the fact he is talking about American auto. On NAFTA they claim USMCA isn't really brand new as it still has a lot from NAFTA in it...

Manufacturing - They are mad that Trump rounded down the job loss before he took office? Then go on to say well Obama got a mess on this too!

Medication - Again they confirm that he did do exactly what he said then go on to try and say well "most" of requests were filled before this anyways.

VA Choice - They claim it was Obama's laws, then go on to say yeah Trump did more to it in 2018

Border security - bOtH SiDes are partisan on this. No real lie here.

Preexisting conditions - A lot of word play here too. Weakening isn't removing protections. They go on to say he claimed pre existing conditions are unconstitutional. It was the individual mandate that was the glaring issue.
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Bossdog421
06/19/19 2:36:59 PM
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Fact check the fact checkers next time...
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Machete
06/19/19 2:39:09 PM
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Caution999 posted...

I disagree. Caution999 did not post, in my opinion.
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Giant_Aspirin
06/19/19 2:40:01 PM
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Zikten posted...
Why is the crowd still cheering about the wall?


they're not the brightest and the best
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ThyCorndog
06/19/19 2:40:07 PM
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that seems low. I expect 1 per minute from trump. is he ok? I'm worried
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ThePrinceFish
06/19/19 2:43:16 PM
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Bossdog421 posted...

It must be frustrating to have gone through the effort to read CNN's crap and type up an explanation for a bunch of people who won't read it and will only respond "lul Trump is such an evil liar, CNN says so"
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Musourenka
06/19/19 2:45:45 PM
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spudger posted...
how his cult continue to believe in spite of truth is really pathetic

it truly is a cult


The cult doesn't value truth. Only spite and "winning".
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Bossdog421
06/19/19 2:46:39 PM
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ThePrinceFish posted...
Bossdog421 posted...

It must be frustrating to have gone through the effort to read CNN's crap and type up an explanation for a bunch of people who won't read it and will only respond "lul Trump is such an evil liar, CNN says so"


Yeah no one will read it.

The only really frustrating thing is the glaring shit they call a lie that isn't. The factory production thing... the people who write this crap bank on people not actually reading anything in the actual let alone the sources...
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dave_is_slick
06/19/19 2:52:58 PM
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BLAKUboy posted...
Pukelid posted...
If anyone responds to this guy it will effectively end the topic

just a psa for the usual suspects who cant resist

This counts as feeding, by the way.

No it doesn't.
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Solar_Crimson
06/19/19 3:48:59 PM
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Spooking posted...
Folks are mad that their best bet is a creepy ex-VP who sniffs hair of random women. They're afraid of another easy 2020 victory for President Trump.

Meanwhile, you guys are going to bat for a guy who has proudly boasted on walking in on changing teenaged models and coined the phrase "Grab them by the pussy."
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Villain
06/19/19 3:51:42 PM
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spudger posted...
Pukelid posted...
Caution999 posted...
CNN has no credibility imo

If anyone responds to this guy it will effectively end the topic

just a psa for the usual suspects who cant resist

whats amazing is that even when confront with factual data that is inarguable they act like trump; stick their heads in the sand, and yell "FAEK NEWZZ"

Yeah they really are DDIQs. And not even in the high digits :/
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creativerealms
06/19/19 3:59:03 PM
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Only fifteen?
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creativerealms
06/19/19 4:00:13 PM
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Caution999 posted...
CNN has no credibility imo

And your opinion of them makes me trust them more.
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Eat More Beef
06/19/19 4:00:59 PM
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Spooking posted...
Caution999 posted...
Stories that CNN has gotten wrong include:

George Zimmerman
Hands up, Don't Shoot
Trump can't win the election
Brett Kavanaugh: Serial rapist
Covington Kids = Racist
Trump colluded with Russia

where do you get credibility from a network that constantly is wrong?

They've cut 100 jobs this year already, their ratings have plummeted, and their primetime ratings have hit 761,000 viewers. Fox has TRIPLE those ratings because they've earned something called credibility.

Forgive me if I doubt their "fact check"

Folks are mad that their best bet is a creepy ex-VP who sniffs hair of random women. They're afraid of another easy 2020 victory for President Trump.


My favourite part is claiming that they cut 100 jobs due to failing ratings. It's like homeboy ain't taking automation into account. As society progresses through technology, we need less humans to do the heavy lifting when it can be outsourced to robots and A.I. and algorithms.
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Bossdog421
06/19/19 6:47:26 PM
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No one seems to care that the list is 100% bullshit.

You seem to only care about lies the media is lying to you about.
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Machete
06/19/19 7:36:59 PM
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Bossdog421 posted...
No one seems to care that the list is 100% bullshit.

You seem to only care about lies the media is lying to you about.


"Waaaaahhhh" is how I read that post.
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