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Rika_Furude 06/20/19 9:00:03 PM #51:	darkphoenix181 posted... Maze_ posted... I don't understand this "It's illegal for you to live in this country but it is legal to get a drivers liscense while you're illegally here." That doesn't make sense to me... Either make it legal for them to be here or kick them out... You can't do both... It is not illegal for them to live in said country. It was illegal for them to enter said country. But now that they are here, they are allowed to stay. Thats not how it works. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:923615493] in New York P... [t:77805750]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Maze_ posted...</cite> <quote> I don't understand this "It's illegal for you to live in this country but it is legal to get a drivers liscense while you're illegally here." That doesn't make sense to me... Either make it legal for them to be here or kick them out... You can't do both...</quote> It is not illegal for them to live in said country. It was illegal for them to enter said country. But now that they are here, they are allowed to stay.</quote> Thats not how it works.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nemu 06/20/19 9:03:34 PM #52:	I don't get this. There should be two options, get them on the path to legalization or deport them. Half-measures make no sense whatsoever. If they're illegal, they deserve no rights beyond basic human rights, so they should be deported. If the country decides that they should get the rights of a citizen, then the country should work on making them citizens. <cite>nemu posted [p:923615626] in New York P... [t:77805750]...</cite> <quote>I don't get this. There should be two options, get them on the path to legalization or deport them. Half-measures make no sense whatsoever. If they're illegal, they deserve no rights beyond basic human rights, so they should be deported. If the country decides that they should get the rights of a citizen, then the country should work on making them citizens.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 06/20/19 9:05:57 PM #53:	Rika_Furude posted... darkphoenix181 posted... Maze_ posted... I don't understand this "It's illegal for you to live in this country but it is legal to get a drivers liscense while you're illegally here." That doesn't make sense to me... Either make it legal for them to be here or kick them out... You can't do both... It is not illegal for them to live in said country. It was illegal for them to enter said country. But now that they are here, they are allowed to stay. Thats not how it works. Then explain this Cuomo, who has said he is a staunch supporter of the bill, on Monday surprised lawmakers and said he would only sign it if the state solicitor general felt there were enough protections to prevent federal immigration authorities from accessing immigrants' data through the DMV database. Attorney General Letitia James released a statement Monday night saying the measure contained "ample protections for those who apply for driver's licenses." --- "Even if that's not the case, I would prefer this bill fail, since I'd rather see a Democrat get this win instead" - Doom_Art <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:923615732] in New York P... [t:77805750]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Maze_ posted...</cite> <quote> I don't understand this "It's illegal for you to live in this country but it is legal to get a drivers liscense while you're illegally here." That doesn't make sense to me... Either make it legal for them to be here or kick them out... You can't do both...</quote> It is not illegal for them to live in said country. It was illegal for them to enter said country. But now that they are here, they are allowed to stay.</quote> Thats not how it works.</quote> Then explain this <quote>Cuomo, who has said he is a staunch supporter of the bill, on Monday surprised lawmakers and said he would only sign it if the state solicitor general felt there were enough protections to prevent federal immigration authorities from accessing immigrants' data through the DMV database. Attorney General Letitia James released a statement Monday night saying the measure contained "ample protections for those who apply for driver's licenses." </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 06/20/19 9:06:34 PM #54:	nemu posted... I don't get this. There should be two options, get them on the path to legalization or deport them. Half-measures make no sense whatsoever. If they're illegal, they deserve no rights beyond basic human rights, so they should be deported. If the country decides that they should get the rights of a citizen, then the country should work on making them citizens. Cheap labor --- "Even if that's not the case, I would prefer this bill fail, since I'd rather see a Democrat get this win instead" - Doom_Art <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:923615763] in New York P... [t:77805750]...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>I don't get this. There should be two options, get them on the path to legalization or deport them. Half-measures make no sense whatsoever. If they're illegal, they deserve no rights beyond basic human rights, so they should be deported. If the country decides that they should get the rights of a citizen, then the country should work on making them citizens.</quote> Cheap labor</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarthAragorn 06/20/19 9:07:31 PM #56:	If they're illegal, deport them --- A thousand eyes, and one. <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:923615798] in New York P... [t:77805750]...</cite> <quote>If they're illegal, deport them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 06/20/19 9:08:27 PM #57:	They're just undoing a post 9/11 law. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:923615837] in New York P... [t:77805750]...</cite> <quote>They're just undoing a post 9/11 law.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeonOctopus 06/20/19 9:08:48 PM #58:	This is why Trump won --- https://imgur.com/nlaY1qH https://imgur.com/zHJ1OCo https://i.imgtc.com/ae0qJBn.jpg https://imgur.com/1B3bMHw https://i.imgtc.com/oBtziLb.png <cite>NeonOctopus posted [p:923615853] in New York P... [t:77805750]...</cite> <quote>This is why Trump won</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 06/20/19 9:13:05 PM #59:	isn't it odd how conservatives take the emotional stance on every single issue i thought facts don't care about your feelings? <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:923616036] in New York P... [t:77805750]...</cite> <quote>isn't it odd how conservatives take the emotional stance on every single issue i thought facts don't care about your feelings?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 06/20/19 9:14:26 PM #60:	Broseph_Stalin posted... isn't it odd how conservatives take the emotional stance on every single issue i thought facts don't care about your feelings? Yeah if someone can't argue with facts, then they shouldn't argue at all. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:923616078] in New York P... [t:77805750]...</cite> <quote><cite>Broseph_Stalin posted...</cite> <quote>isn't it odd how conservatives take the emotional stance on every single issue i thought facts don't care about your feelings?</quote> Yeah if someone can't argue with facts, then they shouldn't argue at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 06/20/19 9:39:39 PM #61:	Federal authorities are still able to apprehend people who violate federal laws. This allows people who will be driving anyway to have insurance so theyll report accidents instead of driving off. --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:923617154] in New York P... [t:77805750]...</cite> <quote>Federal authorities are still able to apprehend people who violate federal laws. This allows people who will be driving anyway to have insurance so theyll report accidents instead of driving off.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 06/20/19 10:04:24 PM #62:	King_Hellebuyck posted... Federal authorities are still able to apprehend people who violate federal laws. This allows people who will be driving anyway to have insurance so theyll report accidents instead of driving off. LOL Yeah, this will surely stop all that --- Oda break tracker 2019- 4 (3) \| THE Ohio State: 13-1 \| Oakland Raiders: 4-12 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:923618215] in New York P... [t:77805750]...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote>Federal authorities are still able to apprehend people who violate federal laws. This allows people who will be driving anyway to have insurance so theyll report accidents instead of driving off.</quote> LOL Yeah, this will surely stop all that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 06/20/19 10:06:47 PM #63:	voldothegr8 posted... King_Hellebuyck posted... Federal authorities are still able to apprehend people who violate federal laws. This allows people who will be driving anyway to have insurance so theyll report accidents instead of driving off. LOL Yeah, this will surely stop all that Are you implying all undocumented immigrants are rotten drivers? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:923618329] in New York P... [t:77805750]...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote>Federal authorities are still able to apprehend people who violate federal laws. This allows people who will be driving anyway to have insurance so theyll report accidents instead of driving off.</quote> LOL Yeah, this will surely stop all that</quote> Are you implying all undocumented immigrants are rotten drivers?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Feline_Heart 06/20/19 10:08:49 PM #64:	ICE is probably happy that they'll have a list of all the illegal immigrants in NYC. Itll make it easier for them to deport them --- Pickles the Drummer doodily doo ding dong doodily doodily doo <cite>Feline_Heart posted [p:923618427] in New York P... [t:77805750]...</cite> <quote>ICE is probably happy that they'll have a list of all the illegal immigrants in NYC. Itll make it easier for them to deport them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 06/20/19 10:12:22 PM #65:	voldothegr8 posted... King_Hellebuyck posted... Federal authorities are still able to apprehend people who violate federal laws. This allows people who will be driving anyway to have insurance so theyll report accidents instead of driving off. LOL Yeah, this will surely stop all that It wont stop it but itll help. Drives down insurance costs for everyone. Let the feds do their own work. --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:923618566] in New York P... [t:77805750]...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote>Federal authorities are still able to apprehend people who violate federal laws. This allows people who will be driving anyway to have insurance so theyll report accidents instead of driving off.</quote> LOL Yeah, this will surely stop all that</quote> It wont stop it but itll help. Drives down insurance costs for everyone. Let the feds do their own work.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 06/20/19 10:14:32 PM #66:	Abiz_ posted... Questionmarktarius posted... At best, the only thing a state can really do is forward the information on to ICE. Assuming, of course, the address given for the drivers license isn't bullshit. It's a crime to not have the right address on your license in NY. I believe it is a 100 dollar ticket if I remember right. I would venture the guess that someone who isn't even supposed to have an address in NY, may not be too honest about it. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:923618660] in New York P... [t:77805750]...</cite> <quote><cite>Abiz_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>At best, the only thing a state can really do is forward the information on to ICE. Assuming, of course, the address given for the drivers license isn't bullshit.</quote> It's a crime to not have the right address on your license in NY. I believe it is a 100 dollar ticket if I remember right.</quote> I would venture the guess that someone who isn't even supposed to have an address in NY, may not be too honest about it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 06/20/19 10:16:51 PM #67:	hockeybub89 posted... voldothegr8 posted... King_Hellebuyck posted... Federal authorities are still able to apprehend people who violate federal laws. This allows people who will be driving anyway to have insurance so theyll report accidents instead of driving off. LOL Yeah, this will surely stop all that Are you implying all undocumented immigrants are rotten drivers? Illegal aliens wont call the authorities knowing that they are at risk of deportation. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:923618760] in New York P... [t:77805750]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote> Federal authorities are still able to apprehend people who violate federal laws. This allows people who will be driving anyway to have insurance so theyll report accidents instead of driving off. </quote> LOL Yeah, this will surely stop all that</quote> Are you implying all undocumented immigrants are rotten drivers?</quote> Illegal aliens wont call the authorities knowing that they are at risk of deportation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 06/20/19 11:05:33 PM #68:	darkmaian23 posted... I don't understand why people living in the country illegally need more free things You pay for a driver's license --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:923620712] in New York P... [t:77805750]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkmaian23 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't understand why people living in the country illegally need more free things</quote> You pay for a driver's license</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkmaian23 06/20/19 11:32:28 PM #69:	Antifar posted... darkmaian23 posted... I don't understand why people living in the country illegally need more free things You pay for a driver's license I meant to write "more things given freely", as in "stuff citizens get or can do". I need sleep and that's totally on me. <cite>darkmaian23 posted [p:923621678] in New York P... [t:77805750]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkmaian23 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't understand why people living in the country illegally need more free things</quote> You pay for a driver's license</quote> I meant to write "more things given freely", as in "stuff citizens get or can do". I need sleep and that's totally on me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cornmuffins 06/20/19 11:34:05 PM #70:	Questionmarktarius posted... Abiz_ posted... Questionmarktarius posted... At best, the only thing a state can really do is forward the information on to ICE. Assuming, of course, the address given for the drivers license isn't bullshit. It's a crime to not have the right address on your license in NY. I believe it is a 100 dollar ticket if I remember right. I would venture the guess that someone who isn't even supposed to have an address in NY, may not be too honest about it. Wait so your license, registration, and insurance are all going to have a fake address on it? --- Getting C's and D's, saying thanks and please. You broke the golden rule, you're staying after school. <cite>Cornmuffins posted [p:923621744] in New York P... [t:77805750]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Abiz_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>At best, the only thing a state can really do is forward the information on to ICE. Assuming, of course, the address given for the drivers license isn't bullshit.</quote> It's a crime to not have the right address on your license in NY. I believe it is a 100 dollar ticket if I remember right.</quote> I would venture the guess that someone who isn't even supposed to have an address in NY, may not be too honest about it.</quote> Wait so your license, registration, and insurance are all going to have a fake address on it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 06/21/19 12:19:56 AM #71:	Cornmuffins posted... Questionmarktarius posted... Abiz_ posted... Questionmarktarius posted... At best, the only thing a state can really do is forward the information on to ICE. Assuming, of course, the address given for the drivers license isn't bullshit. It's a crime to not have the right address on your license in NY. I believe it is a 100 dollar ticket if I remember right. I would venture the guess that someone who isn't even supposed to have an address in NY, may not be too honest about it. Wait so your license, registration, and insurance are all going to have a fake address on it? Hopefully, you'd be clever enough to be consistent about your fake address. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:923623201] in New York P... [t:77805750]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cornmuffins posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Abiz_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>At best, the only thing a state can really do is forward the information on to ICE. Assuming, of course, the address given for the drivers license isn't bullshit.</quote> It's a crime to not have the right address on your license in NY. I believe it is a 100 dollar ticket if I remember right.</quote> I would venture the guess that someone who isn't even supposed to have an address in NY, may not be too honest about it.</quote> Wait so your license, registration, and insurance are all going to have a fake address on it?</quote> Hopefully, you'd be clever enough to be consistent about your fake address.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BillyKidd 06/21/19 12:26:29 AM #72:	last time i checked, you needed a utility bill showing your address before getting a license --- Tho I walk through the valley of death, I shall fear no evil. For I'm the meanest mofo in the whole f'n valley https://imgur.com/4GzX1 <cite>BillyKidd posted [p:923623431] in New York P... [t:77805750]...</cite> <quote>last time i checked, you needed a utility bill showing your address before getting a license</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scorpion41 06/21/19 12:30:23 AM #73:	So how will they provide proof of residence? Insurance? A fucking social security number? Democrats are insane. --- PSN: scorpion_4160 Currently Playing: NCAA 14, Darksiders series(PS3) <cite>scorpion41 posted [p:923623568] in New York P... [t:77805750]...</cite> <quote>So how will they provide proof of residence? Insurance? A fucking social security number? Democrats are insane.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chicken 06/21/19 12:37:24 AM #74:	New York needed more cabbies. --- https://youtu.be/jGbI0P4hh3o <cite>Chicken posted [p:923623770] in New York P... [t:77805750]...</cite> <quote>New York needed more cabbies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 06/21/19 8:04:58 AM #75:	scorpion41 posted... So how will they provide proof of residence? Probably with the pieces of mail everyone else provides proof with. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:923632615] in New York P... [t:77805750]...</cite> <quote><cite>scorpion41 posted...</cite> <quote>So how will they provide proof of residence? </quote> Probably with the pieces of mail everyone else provides proof with.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Iodine 06/21/19 8:37:26 AM #76:	States Rights --- In Belichick we Trust <cite>Iodine posted [p:923633339] in New York P... [t:77805750]...</cite> <quote>States Rights</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Musourenka 06/21/19 9:02:42 AM #77:	King_Hellebuyck posted... Federal authorities are still able to apprehend people who violate federal laws. This allows people who will be driving anyway to have insurance so theyll report accidents instead of driving off. This sounds good to me. The law seems reasonable. --- Shooing away pigeons crapping on debate tables is not a violation of the pigeons' free speech. <cite>Musourenka posted [p:923633978] in New York P... [t:77805750]...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote>Federal authorities are still able to apprehend people who violate federal laws. This allows people who will be driving anyway to have insurance so theyll report accidents instead of driving off.</quote> This sounds good to me. The law seems reasonable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caution998 06/21/19 9:07:12 AM #78:	Just one step closer to being unable to deny these people to illegally cast votes. Also I love this new "undocumented" term. It's like when car dealerships sell used cars. They're "certified pre-owned now!!" Doesn't change the fact the car was used. the concept of law and order no longer matters. --- https://youtu.be/U06jlgpMtQs <cite>Caution998 posted [p:923634134] in New York P... [t:77805750]...</cite> <quote>Just one step closer to being unable to deny these people to illegally cast votes. Also I love this new "undocumented" term. It's like when car dealerships sell used cars. They're "certified pre-owned now!!" Doesn't change the fact the car was used. the concept of law and order no longer matters.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkProto05 06/21/19 9:13:19 AM #79:	This is good. You guys have no idea how many shitty drivers cause accidents in New York because they are illegal and never learned how to drive. If they're forced to actually learn and become good then less accidents. --- Alpha Sapphire FC: 2552 5569 3267 <cite>DarkProto05 posted [p:923634325] in New York P... [t:77805750]...</cite> <quote>This is good. You guys have no idea how many shitty drivers cause accidents in New York because they are illegal and never learned how to drive. If they're forced to actually learn and become good then less accidents.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rebel_Patriot 06/21/19 9:18:06 AM #80:	Is the sidewalk even dry yet from the last time an undocumented immigrant used a truck as a weapon in New York? --- Horses?! We can't afford t'lose no horses! <cite>Rebel_Patriot posted [p:923634481] in New York P... [t:77805750]...</cite> <quote>Is the sidewalk even dry yet from the last time an undocumented immigrant used a truck as a weapon in New York?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SailorGoon 06/21/19 9:19:00 AM #81:	More traffic. Cool. --- https://i.imgtc.com/ycEUBZQ.png <cite>SailorGoon posted [p:923634512] in New York P... [t:77805750]...</cite> <quote>More traffic. Cool.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Caution998 06/21/19 9:21:50 AM #83:	M_Live posted... I honestly don't see what's wrong with this. I saw people on Facebook complaining that it'll allow illegal immigrants to vote and I couldn't find the logic behind that one If you owned a jewelry store this is like the equivalent of just leaving your door unlocked because you don't want to have to deal with criminals illegally breaking and entering and destroying your store. --- https://youtu.be/U06jlgpMtQs <cite>Caution998 posted [p:923634600] in New York P... [t:77805750]...</cite> <quote><cite>M_Live posted...</cite> <quote>I honestly don't see what's wrong with this. I saw people on Facebook complaining that it'll allow illegal immigrants to vote and I couldn't find the logic behind that one</quote> If you owned a jewelry store this is like the equivalent of just leaving your door unlocked because you don't want to have to deal with criminals illegally breaking and entering and destroying your store.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scorpion41 06/21/19 9:55:29 AM #84:	Antifar posted... scorpion41 posted... So how will they provide proof of residence? Probably with the pieces of mail everyone else provides proof with. So theyll steal someone elses mail? Because theres still no legal way for them to rent/own a residence. --- PSN: scorpion_4160 Currently Playing: NCAA 14, Darksiders series(PS3) <cite>scorpion41 posted [p:923635713] in New York P... [t:77805750]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scorpion41 posted...</cite> <quote>So how will they provide proof of residence? </quote> Probably with the pieces of mail everyone else provides proof with.</quote> So theyll steal someone elses mail? Because theres still no legal way for them to rent/own a residence.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caution998 06/21/19 10:16:19 AM #85:	scorpion41 posted... Antifar posted... scorpion41 posted... So how will they provide proof of residence? Probably with the pieces of mail everyone else provides proof with. So theyll steal someone elses mail? Because theres still no legal way for them to rent/own a residence. New York State should just stop beating around the bush and offer amnesty to the illegal aliens at this stage. They think they're being crafty by legalizing one thing at a time so that the casual voters or middle ground people don't see what's really going on here. They think we're dumb Just have their citizens vote on the issue. Have them vote on amnesty. --- https://youtu.be/U06jlgpMtQs <cite>Caution998 posted [p:923636452] in New York P... [t:77805750]...</cite> <quote><cite>scorpion41 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scorpion41 posted...</cite> <quote>So how will they provide proof of residence? </quote> Probably with the pieces of mail everyone else provides proof with.</quote> So theyll steal someone elses mail? Because theres still no legal way for them to rent/own a residence.</quote> New York State should just stop beating around the bush and offer amnesty to the illegal aliens at this stage. They think they're being crafty by legalizing one thing at a time so that the casual voters or middle ground people don't see what's really going on here. They think we're dumb Just have their citizens vote on the issue. Have them vote on amnesty.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 06/21/19 10:21:06 AM #86:	In what way is it illegal for undocumented immigrants to rent? I don't think I gave my landlord any information about my immigration status... Did I? --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:923636637] in New York P... [t:77805750]...</cite> <quote>In what way is it illegal for undocumented immigrants to rent? I don't think I gave my landlord any information about my immigration status... Did I?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 06/21/19 10:25:16 AM #87:	Caution998 posted... New York State should just stop beating around the bush and offer amnesty to the illegal aliens at this stage. States don't have the authority to do that. The best NY can do is somehow declare itself a "sanctuary state" and see where the ensuing shitstorm goes. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:923636764] in New York P... [t:77805750]...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution998 posted...</cite> <quote>New York State should just stop beating around the bush and offer amnesty to the illegal aliens at this stage. </quote> States don't have the authority to do that. The best NY can do is somehow declare itself a "sanctuary state" and see where the ensuing shitstorm goes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 06/21/19 10:28:18 AM #88:	Caution998 posted... They think we're dumb you think states have jurisdiction over immigration so... <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:923636880] in New York P... [t:77805750]...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution998 posted...</cite> <quote>They think we're dumb </quote> you think states have jurisdiction over immigration so...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 06/21/19 10:29:16 AM #89:	MakoReizei posted... why is this good? they shouldn't be here in the first place neither should you --- "It's basically just a stuffed animal at that point." -Tyranthraxus <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:923636915] in New York P... [t:77805750]...</cite> <quote><cite>MakoReizei posted...</cite> <quote>why is this good? they shouldn't be here in the first place</quote> neither should you</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 06/21/19 10:33:38 AM #90:	Shablagoo posted... MakoReizei posted... why is this good? they shouldn't be here in the first place neither should you You are a child of the universe, no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here. - max ehrmann --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:923637059] in New York P... [t:77805750]...</cite> <quote><cite>Shablagoo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MakoReizei posted...</cite> <quote>why is this good? they shouldn't be here in the first place</quote> neither should you</quote> You are a child of the universe, no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here. - max ehrmann</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caution998 06/21/19 10:34:24 AM #91:	Broseph_Stalin posted... Caution998 posted... They think we're dumb you think states have jurisdiction over immigration so... Well that hasn't stopped all the cities within these states to find ways around that. --- https://youtu.be/U06jlgpMtQs <cite>Caution998 posted [p:923637085] in New York P... [t:77805750]...</cite> <quote><cite>Broseph_Stalin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution998 posted...</cite> <quote>They think we're dumb </quote> you think states have jurisdiction over immigration so...</quote> Well that hasn't stopped all the cities within these states to find ways around that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 06/21/19 10:35:41 AM #92:	SailorGoon posted... More traffic. Cool. No, more insurance for the people already on the road --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:923637132] in New York P... [t:77805750]...</cite> <quote><cite>SailorGoon posted...</cite> <quote>More traffic. Cool.</quote> No, more insurance for the people already on the road</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
marc55 06/21/19 10:36:04 AM #93:	Maze_ posted... darkphoenix181 posted... It is not illegal for them to live in said country. It was illegal for them to enter said country. But.... you have to do one to do the other. I don't understand America. visas are legal.... --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. <cite>marc55 posted [p:923637149] in New York P... [t:77805750]...</cite> <quote><cite>Maze_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote> It is not illegal for them to live in said country. It was illegal for them to enter said country. </quote> But.... you have to do one to do the other. I don't understand America.</quote> visas are legal....</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
glitteringfairy 06/21/19 10:36:47 AM #94:	Lordgold666 posted... Yikes --- "How come you can believe in God but not Bigfoot? V-E-G-Y https://imgur.com/AqR3aeX https://imgur.com/vvuUXpp https://i.imgtc.com/lyRboFN.jpg <cite>glitteringfairy posted [p:923637176] in New York P... [t:77805750]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lordgold666 posted...</cite> <quote>Yikes</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 06/21/19 10:36:54 AM #95:	Balrog0 posted... Shablagoo posted... MakoReizei posted... why is this good? they shouldn't be here in the first place neither should you You are a child of the universe, no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here. - max ehrmann that was actually my point lol:) --- "It's basically just a stuffed animal at that point." -Tyranthraxus <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:923637181] in New York P... [t:77805750]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Shablagoo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MakoReizei posted...</cite> <quote>why is this good? they shouldn't be here in the first place</quote> neither should you</quote> You are a child of the universe, no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here. - max ehrmann</quote> that was actually my point lol:)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SailorGoon 06/21/19 10:51:15 AM #96:	King_Hellebuyck posted... SailorGoon posted... More traffic. Cool. No, more insurance for the people already on the road And also, more traffic. More people on the road equals more traffic. I don't see how the effect on insurance would circumvent that. --- https://i.imgtc.com/ycEUBZQ.png <cite>SailorGoon posted [p:923637815] in New York P... [t:77805750]...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SailorGoon posted...</cite> <quote>More traffic. Cool.</quote> No, more insurance for the people already on the road</quote> And also, more traffic. More people on the road equals more traffic. I don't see how the effect on insurance would circumvent that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 06/21/19 11:23:59 AM #97:	scorpion41 posted... Antifar posted... scorpion41 posted... So how will they provide proof of residence? Probably with the pieces of mail everyone else provides proof with. So theyll steal someone elses mail? Because theres still no legal way for them to rent/own a residence. Where do you think undocumented immigrants live, exactly? --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:923639293] in New York P... [t:77805750]...</cite> <quote><cite>scorpion41 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scorpion41 posted...</cite> <quote>So how will they provide proof of residence? </quote> Probably with the pieces of mail everyone else provides proof with.</quote> So theyll steal someone elses mail? Because theres still no legal way for them to rent/own a residence.</quote> Where do you think undocumented immigrants live, exactly?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sktgamer_13dude 06/21/19 11:31:42 AM #98:	Caution998 posted... Just one step closer to being unable to deny these people to illegally cast votes. Also I love this new "undocumented" term. It's like when car dealerships sell used cars. They're "certified pre-owned now!!" Doesn't change the fact the car was used. the concept of law and order no longer matters. you-tried.jpg --- https://imgur.com/jWVrg9U https://imgur.com/g2efUtT https://imgur.com/5dOwhaP https://imgur.com/LVdqu8J Go Cougs and M's #DI4B <cite>sktgamer_13dude posted [p:923639650] in New York P... [t:77805750]...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution998 posted...</cite> <quote>Just one step closer to being unable to deny these people to illegally cast votes. Also I love this new "undocumented" term. It's like when car dealerships sell used cars. They're "certified pre-owned now!!" Doesn't change the fact the car was used. the concept of law and order no longer matters.</quote> you-tried.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zero_Destroyer 06/21/19 11:40:40 AM #99:	I don't agree with this. It's led to states like Texas having obscene requirements to obtain state IDs because they're trying to make sure undocumented immigrants can't get residency in their states, which in turn affects citizens who might have difficulty providing the giant checklist of lesser identification you require to get a state ID. This in turn affects poor citizens or people in unusual circumstances (i.e. cases where kids had custody changes, but lack some of the court papers.) It was a MASSIVE hassle to get my state ID. I should be clear I don't support the Trump admin on immigration, but I think this is entirely the wrong direction to go about this and skirts by the actual discussion/issue, and compels many state governments to increase red tape for ID. --- Enjoy movies and television? Check out my blog! I do reviews and analyses. http://fictionrantreview.wordpress.com/ (The Force Awakens spoiler review up!) <cite>Zero_Destroyer posted [p:923639995] in New York P... [t:77805750]...</cite> <quote>I don't agree with this. It's led to states like Texas having obscene requirements to obtain state IDs because they're trying to make sure undocumented immigrants can't get residency in their states, which in turn affects citizens who might have difficulty providing the giant checklist of lesser identification you require to get a state ID. This in turn affects poor citizens or people in unusual circumstances (i.e. cases where kids had custody changes, but lack some of the court papers.) It was a MASSIVE hassle to get my state ID. I should be clear I don't support the Trump admin on immigration, but I think this is entirely the wrong direction to go about this and skirts by the actual discussion/issue, and compels many state governments to increase red tape for ID.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 06/21/19 11:45:50 AM #100:	Zero_Destroyer posted... I don't agree with this. It's led to states like Texas having obscene requirements to obtain state IDs because they're trying to make sure undocumented immigrants can't get residency in their states, which in turn affects citizens who might have difficulty providing the giant checklist of lesser identification you require to get a state ID. This in turn affects poor citizens or people in unusual circumstances (i.e. cases where kids had custody changes, but lack some of the court papers.) That's Texas's choice, not one foisted upon them by New York. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:923640204] in New York P... [t:77805750]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zero_Destroyer posted...</cite> <quote>I don't agree with this. It's led to states like Texas having obscene requirements to obtain state IDs because they're trying to make sure undocumented immigrants can't get residency in their states, which in turn affects citizens who might have difficulty providing the giant checklist of lesser identification you require to get a state ID. This in turn affects poor citizens or people in unusual circumstances (i.e. cases where kids had custody changes, but lack some of the court papers.)</quote> That's Texas's choice, not one foisted upon them by New York.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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