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gunplagirl 06/25/19 11:46:24 AM #52:	justaguy3492 posted... gunplagirl posted... Or else, just the general fact that it's cis people regulating us out of society and they've gained major ground in America when they elected the fascist Donald Trump to act as president I'm genuinely trying to understand your point here. So are you saying that cis people are wrong to not date/have interest in trans people? I agree trump is terrible for the trans community, but what does that have to do with this topic? I also understand and agree that it's a problem that trans people are more likely to commit suicide and be murdered, but again what does that have to do with this topic? Guess I'll keep it short and simple this time: the problem is the concept of deeply ingrained societal transphobia. MacadamianNut3 posted... averagejoel posted... it is also reasonable that some of these ideas extend to their dating preferences Yeah I'm still not seeing the jump from this to murdering people I don't want to date a trans person, so I guess I'm transphobic. Even then, I'm pretty sure murdering anyone is the last thing on my mind, so what's the point of this logical jump in this topic about dating At least you can admit it. --- https://i.imgtc.ws/x2KBsjI.png <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:923821714] in Study: 96.... [t:77817572]...</cite> <quote><cite>justaguy3492 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>Or else, just the general fact that it's cis people regulating us out of society and they've gained major ground in America when they elected the fascist Donald Trump to act as president</quote> I'm genuinely trying to understand your point here. So are you saying that cis people are wrong to not date/have interest in trans people? I agree trump is terrible for the trans community, but what does that have to do with this topic? I also understand and agree that it's a problem that trans people are more likely to commit suicide and be murdered, but again what does that have to do with this topic?</quote> Guess I'll keep it short and simple this time: the problem is the concept of deeply ingrained societal transphobia. <cite>MacadamianNut3 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>it is also reasonable that some of these ideas extend to their dating preferences</quote> Yeah I'm still not seeing the jump from this to murdering people I don't want to date a trans person, so I guess I'm transphobic. Even then, I'm pretty sure murdering anyone is the last thing on my mind, so what's the point of this logical jump in this topic about dating</quote> At least you can admit it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MacadamianNut3 06/25/19 11:49:42 AM #53:	averagejoel posted... the higher rate of trans murder victims stems from the same societal transphobia ...ok So what does this have to do with this topic about dating. I'm not trying to act like UnfairRepresent with his endless moronic devil's advocate questioning, but jumping to trans people getting murdered in a topic subject that ends at "cis people dont want to date trans people and that's the end of this study" seems like some really dumb misplaced emotional appeal to get cis people to want to date trans people I might as well post stats about black women and domestic abuse every time someone here says they're not attracted to black women. That will surely change some minds gunplagirl posted... At least you can admit it. Thanks for the reddit like zinger for something I said. Do you want some gold kind stranger --- Roll Tide & Go Irish <cite>MacadamianNut3 posted [p:923821855] in Study: 96.... [t:77817572]...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>the higher rate of trans murder victims stems from the same societal transphobia</quote> ...ok So what does this have to do with this topic about dating. I'm not trying to act like UnfairRepresent with his endless moronic devil's advocate questioning, but jumping to trans people getting murdered in a topic subject that ends at "cis people dont want to date trans people and that's the end of this study" seems like some really dumb misplaced emotional appeal to get cis people to want to date trans people I might as well post stats about black women and domestic abuse every time someone here says they're not attracted to black women. That will surely change some minds <cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>At least you can admit it.</quote> Thanks for the reddit like zinger for something I said. Do you want some gold kind stranger</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
justaguy3492 06/25/19 11:50:10 AM #54:	gunplagirl posted... Guess I'll keep it short and simple this time: the problem is the concept of deeply ingrained societal transphobia You're being purposefully vague when I'm trying to have a conversation and understand things from a different perspective. But ok. --- Gt: justaguy3492 <cite>justaguy3492 posted [p:923821876] in Study: 96.... [t:77817572]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>Guess I'll keep it short and simple this time: the problem is the concept of deeply ingrained societal transphobia</quote> You're being purposefully vague when I'm trying to have a conversation and understand things from a different perspective. But ok.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tennisdude818 06/25/19 11:52:14 AM #55:	The word Phobia has come a long way if it now applies to people who dont want a feminine penis in their butt. Or if they dont want to have sex with a vagina that was made by a plastic surgeon. --- "Those who need leaders are not qualified to choose them." -Michael Malice <cite>tennisdude818 posted [p:923821986] in Study: 96.... [t:77817572]...</cite> <quote>The word Phobia has come a long way if it now applies to people who dont want a feminine penis in their butt. Or if they dont want to have sex with a vagina that was made by a plastic surgeon.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SRR Capdown 06/25/19 11:59:28 AM #56:	which means only 3.1% of straight people think you can date a transgender and still be straight Surely I'm not the only one who has a problem with this conclusion? For example, I dont think it's gay for a man to have sex with a (pre-op) trans woman, and would never judge anyone for doing so, but at the same time, I'm not attracted to penises and wouldn't have sex with someone who has one. I also think this conclusion completely ignores the other side of things. It absolutely is gay for a man to date and or have sex with a trans man and surely suggesting otherwise is trans phobic. --- Fire Bucket <cite>SRR Capdown posted [p:923822318] in Study: 96.... [t:77817572]...</cite> <quote><quote>which means only 3.1% of straight people think you can date a transgender and still be straight </quote> Surely I'm not the only one who has a problem with this conclusion? For example, I dont think it's gay for a man to have sex with a (pre-op) trans woman, and would never judge anyone for doing so, but at the same time, I'm not attracted to penises and wouldn't have sex with someone who has one. I also think this conclusion completely ignores the other side of things. It absolutely is gay for a man to date and or have sex with a trans man and surely suggesting otherwise is trans phobic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 06/25/19 12:05:33 PM #57:	SRR Capdown posted... <I also think this conclusion completely ignores the other side of things. It absolutely is gay for a man to date and or have sex with a trans man and surely suggesting otherwise is trans phobic. You're right about that. Trans men are men. If another man has sex with a trans man, that's gay. Or bi, or pansexual, or whatever. But to say it's straight IS transphobic as it denies agency or validity to the trans man. --- https://i.imgtc.ws/x2KBsjI.png <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:923822587] in Study: 96.... [t:77817572]...</cite> <quote><cite>SRR Capdown posted...</cite> <quote><I also think this conclusion completely ignores the other side of things. It absolutely is gay for a man to date and or have sex with a trans man and surely suggesting otherwise is trans phobic.</quote> You're right about that. Trans men are men. If another man has sex with a trans man, that's gay. Or bi, or pansexual, or whatever. But to say it's straight IS transphobic as it denies agency or validity to the trans man.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 06/25/19 1:05:05 PM #58:	Sounds sort of redundant --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:923825284] in Study: 96.... [t:77817572]...</cite> <quote>Sounds sort of redundant</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Politics 06/25/19 1:06:30 PM #59:	I've hooked up with a few trans people but idk if I could actually marry one. <cite>Politics posted [p:923825357] in Study: 96.... [t:77817572]...</cite> <quote>I've hooked up with a few trans people but idk if I could actually marry one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HairyThotter 06/25/19 1:08:44 PM #60:	Makes me wonder how many transgender folks would date other transgender folks. --- "With cheese in either hand, anything is possible" <cite>HairyThotter posted [p:923825467] in Study: 96.... [t:77817572]...</cite> <quote>Makes me wonder how many transgender folks would date other transgender folks.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mist_Turnips 06/25/19 1:13:23 PM #61:	96.9% of straight people are sane. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Mist_Turnips posted [p:923825704] in Study: 96.... [t:77817572]...</cite> <quote>96.9% of straight people are sane.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 06/25/19 1:31:00 PM #62:	I'm not remotely surprised by that number. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Esrac/wishlist/ <cite>Esrac posted [p:923826488] in Study: 96.... [t:77817572]...</cite> <quote>I'm not remotely surprised by that number.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kisai 06/25/19 1:31:46 PM #63:	--- WHO MODS THE MODERATORS? <cite>Kisai posted [p:923826524] in Study: 96.... [t:77817572]...</cite> <quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thanosibe 06/25/19 1:33:25 PM #64:	We really needed a study of a 1000 people to reach this conclusion? --- I think I need a drink. Almost everybody does only they don't know it. -- Charles Bukowski <cite>thanosibe posted [p:923826599] in Study: 96.... [t:77817572]...</cite> <quote>We really needed a study of a 1000 people to reach this conclusion?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HylianFox 06/25/19 1:34:12 PM #65:	Mist_Turnips posted... 96.9% of straight people are sane. Active posts: 6 --- I like my beer cold, my TV loud, and my homosexuals FUH-LAMING! - Homer Simpson Don't be a turd. - Chris Pratt <cite>HylianFox posted [p:923826638] in Study: 96.... [t:77817572]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mist_Turnips posted...</cite> <quote>96.9% of straight people are sane.</quote> Active posts: 6</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 06/25/19 1:36:46 PM #66:	Conception616 posted... You should see all of the straight guys who constantly comment on and DM my hot trans friends. They may not want a relationship, but they are clearly DTF. Some of these dudes look like they came out of a 90s Onyx rap video too. that makes sense, though. trans is still a heavily taboo thing in society. relationships tend to become public and eventually you have to tell all your friends and family. society isn't at that point yet plus a lot of people want to have kids (dont bother responding to me with adoption as an option) --- https://imgur.com/6cPXvLN <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:923826752] in Study: 96.... [t:77817572]...</cite> <quote><cite>Conception616 posted...</cite> <quote>You should see all of the straight guys who constantly comment on and DM my hot trans friends. They may not want a relationship, but they are clearly DTF. Some of these dudes look like they came out of a 90s Onyx rap video too.</quote> that makes sense, though. trans is still a heavily taboo thing in society. relationships tend to become public and eventually you have to tell all your friends and family. society isn't at that point yet plus a lot of people want to have kids (dont bother responding to me with adoption as an option)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nemu 06/25/19 1:41:42 PM #67:	It would be very surprising if that number ever reaches above 10% even accounting for people who may still be lying on that sheet. It's certainly not a negative thing for a straight person to be with a transperson, but it's not something anyone should push for in terms of social acceptance of transpeople. For the average person, a transperson is a transperson. That will never change. Anyone who really thinks acceptance needs to reflect dating and sex is on the extreme side of the argument. <cite>nemu posted [p:923826953] in Study: 96.... [t:77817572]...</cite> <quote>It would be very surprising if that number ever reaches above 10% even accounting for people who may still be lying on that sheet. It's certainly not a negative thing for a straight person to be with a transperson, but it's not something anyone should push for in terms of social acceptance of transpeople. For the average person, a transperson is a transperson. That will never change. Anyone who really thinks acceptance needs to reflect dating and sex is on the extreme side of the argument.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thanosibe 06/25/19 1:52:53 PM #68:	nemu posted... It would be very surprising if that number ever reaches above 10% even accounting for people who may still be lying on that sheet. It's certainly not a negative thing for a straight person to be with a transperson, but it's not something anyone should push for in terms of social acceptance of transpeople. For the average person, a transperson is a transperson. That will never change. Anyone who really thinks acceptance needs to reflect dating and sex is on the extreme side of the argument. Yes. And there are certainly people that think one cannot support transpeople without including them in their dating/sexual relations pool. Just as there are extremist in the opposite direction thinking transpeople aren't the gender they have transitioned to. But extremists will be extremists. --- I think I need a drink. Almost everybody does only they don't know it. -- Charles Bukowski <cite>thanosibe posted [p:923827441] in Study: 96.... [t:77817572]...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>It would be very surprising if that number ever reaches above 10% even accounting for people who may still be lying on that sheet. It's certainly not a negative thing for a straight person to be with a transperson, but it's not something anyone should push for in terms of social acceptance of transpeople. For the average person, a transperson is a transperson. That will never change. Anyone who really thinks acceptance needs to reflect dating and sex is on the extreme side of the argument.</quote>Yes. And there are certainly people that think one cannot support transpeople without including them in their dating/sexual relations pool. Just as there are extremist in the opposite direction thinking transpeople aren't the gender they have transitioned to. But extremists will be extremists.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 06/25/19 1:57:30 PM #69:	This is kind of the one area where the rubber meets the road in terms of how far people are willing to take political correctness. You can say all you want about how there is "absolutely no difference" between a biological woman and a transwoman, or about how gender is all some outdated social construct, but at some point our biological instinct kicks in and reality trumps the rhetoric. The folks engaging in shaming strategies in this topic like gunplagirl to guilt straight people into being open to fucking to transgenders are disgusting. There is no difference between that and attempting to shame someone into being straight via gay conversion therapy by convincing those people to ignore their biological urges. People are attracted to who they're attracted to. Leave them the fuck alone. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:923827640] in Study: 96.... [t:77817572]...</cite> <quote>This is kind of the one area where the rubber meets the road in terms of how far people are willing to take political correctness. You can say all you want about how there is "absolutely no difference" between a biological woman and a transwoman, or about how gender is all some outdated social construct, but at some point our biological instinct kicks in and reality trumps the rhetoric. The folks engaging in shaming strategies in this topic like gunplagirl to guilt straight people into being open to fucking to transgenders are disgusting. There is no difference between that and attempting to shame someone into being straight via gay conversion therapy by convincing those people to ignore their biological urges. People are attracted to who they're attracted to. Leave them the fuck alone.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 06/25/19 1:58:19 PM #70:	thanosibe posted... Just as there are extremist in the opposite direction thinking transpeople aren't the gender Just a simple and clear point to be made here: why else do you think straight people seem to so majorly reject the possibility of dating a transwoman? Do you really believe that a ~97% rejection rate is due to reproduction? In which case, you would imagine a 97% rejection rate for women who have had a hysterectomy for medical purposes? It seems to be, and without pushing any agenda, that the straight forward explanation is that most straight people who categorically reject the possibility of dating a transwoman do so because on some level they still see that transwoman as male. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:923827679] in Study: 96.... [t:77817572]...</cite> <quote><cite>thanosibe posted...</cite> <quote>Just as there are extremist in the opposite direction thinking transpeople aren't the gender</quote> Just a simple and clear point to be made here: why else do you think straight people seem to so majorly reject the possibility of dating a transwoman? Do you really believe that a ~97% rejection rate is due to reproduction? In which case, you would imagine a 97% rejection rate for women who have had a hysterectomy for medical purposes? It seems to be, and without pushing any agenda, that the straight forward explanation is that most straight people who categorically reject the possibility of dating a transwoman do so because on some level they still see that transwoman as male.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 06/25/19 1:58:22 PM #71:	nemu posted... It would be very surprising if that number ever reaches above 10% even accounting for people who may still be lying on that sheet. It's certainly not a negative thing for a straight person to be with a transperson, but it's not something anyone should push for in terms of social acceptance of transpeople. For the average person, a transperson is a transperson. That will never change. Anyone who really thinks acceptance needs to reflect dating and sex is on the extreme side of the argument. this is a fundamental misunderstanding of the argument. cis people not wanting to date trans people is more an indication of larger societal issues than a unique problem in and of itself. we aren't pushing against the dating issue specifically; we're pushing against the system that created it --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:923827683] in Study: 96.... [t:77817572]...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>It would be very surprising if that number ever reaches above 10% even accounting for people who may still be lying on that sheet. It's certainly not a negative thing for a straight person to be with a transperson, but it's not something anyone should push for in terms of social acceptance of transpeople. For the average person, a transperson is a transperson. That will never change. Anyone who really thinks acceptance needs to reflect dating and sex is on the extreme side of the argument.</quote> this is a fundamental misunderstanding of the argument. cis people not wanting to date trans people is more an indication of larger societal issues than a unique problem in and of itself. we aren't pushing against the dating issue specifically; we're pushing against the system that created it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 06/25/19 2:00:16 PM #72:	also I can support transgender rights without wanting to date one just like I support gay rights without being gay or how I support freedom of religion without ever wanting to be a part of any religion or how I support freedom of speech without condoning all speech ever said etc it's a little dishonest to say its hypocritical to support transgender rights while not wanting to date one --- https://imgur.com/6cPXvLN <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:923827782] in Study: 96.... [t:77817572]...</cite> <quote>also I can support transgender rights without wanting to date one just like I support gay rights without being gay or how I support freedom of religion without ever wanting to be a part of any religion or how I support freedom of speech without condoning all speech ever said etc it's a little dishonest to say its hypocritical to support transgender rights while not wanting to date one</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HerpToTheDerp 06/25/19 2:01:12 PM #73:	Classic gunpla getting triggered over people who dont want to get spooned by the phantom penis. <cite>HerpToTheDerp posted [p:923827835] in Study: 96.... [t:77817572]...</cite> <quote>Classic gunpla getting triggered over people who dont want to get spooned by the phantom penis.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 06/25/19 2:05:05 PM #74:	ThyCorndog posted... also I can support transgender rights without wanting to date one just like I support gay rights without being gay or how I support freedom of religion without ever wanting to be a part of any religion or how I support freedom of speech without condoning all speech ever said I think more equivalently: "I can be a supporter of black people without wanting to be a friend to one" or any sentence in which a statement of support is immediately contradicted by a stance that tells people how you really feel. When people are pressed on this issue for long enough, it tends to be because they get grossed out, because they cannot push it out of their mind that this person is actually a man. I'm not, like, chastising people for not being able to fully accept it. But it seems pretty clear as day to me that this is what this is, a form of nonacceptance. People don't transition because they identify as trans. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:923828024] in Study: 96.... [t:77817572]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>also I can support transgender rights without wanting to date one just like I support gay rights without being gay or how I support freedom of religion without ever wanting to be a part of any religion or how I support freedom of speech without condoning all speech ever said</quote> I think more equivalently: "I can be a supporter of black people without wanting to be a friend to one" or any sentence in which a statement of support is immediately contradicted by a stance that tells people how you really feel. When people are pressed on this issue for long enough, it tends to be because they get grossed out, because they cannot push it out of their mind that this person is actually a man. I'm not, like, chastising people for not being able to fully accept it. But it seems pretty clear as day to me that this is what this is, a form of nonacceptance. People don't transition because they identify as trans.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 06/25/19 2:06:31 PM #75:	COVxy posted... ThyCorndog posted... also I can support transgender rights without wanting to date one just like I support gay rights without being gay or how I support freedom of religion without ever wanting to be a part of any religion or how I support freedom of speech without condoning all speech ever said I think more equivalently: "I can be a supporter of black people without wanting to be a friend to one" or any sentence in which a statement of support is immediately contradicted by a stance that tells people how you really feel. When people are pressed on this issue for long enough, it tends to be because they get grossed out, because they cannot push it out of their mind that this person is actually a man. I'm not, like, chastising people for not being able to fully accept it. But it seems pretty clear as day to me that this is what this is, a form of nonacceptance. People don't transition because they identify as trans. are you dating a transgender person? --- https://imgur.com/6cPXvLN <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:923828094] in Study: 96.... [t:77817572]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>also I can support transgender rights without wanting to date one just like I support gay rights without being gay or how I support freedom of religion without ever wanting to be a part of any religion or how I support freedom of speech without condoning all speech ever said</quote> I think more equivalently: "I can be a supporter of black people without wanting to be a friend to one" or any sentence in which a statement of support is immediately contradicted by a stance that tells people how you really feel. When people are pressed on this issue for long enough, it tends to be because they get grossed out, because they cannot push it out of their mind that this person is actually a man. I'm not, like, chastising people for not being able to fully accept it. But it seems pretty clear as day to me that this is what this is, a form of nonacceptance. People don't transition because they identify as trans.</quote> are you dating a transgender person?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 06/25/19 2:09:59 PM #76:	ThyCorndog posted... are you dating a transgender person? No, and I can't say that I've actually interacted with any transpeople for any amount of time that would allow me to determine if I were truly comfortable with it. But if I weren't, I would admit that I just couldn't get see myself to fully accept them in the way that they would want. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:923828277] in Study: 96.... [t:77817572]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>are you dating a transgender person? </quote> No, and I can't say that I've actually interacted with any transpeople for any amount of time that would allow me to determine if I were truly comfortable with it. But if I weren't, I would admit that I just couldn't get see myself to fully accept them in the way that they would want.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phewfus 06/25/19 2:12:37 PM #77:	averagejoel posted... cis people not wanting to date trans people is more an indication of larger societal issues than a unique problem in and of itself. we aren't pushing against the dating issue specifically; we're pushing against the system that created it So are gay people heterophobes for not wanting to date the opposite sex now? <cite>Phewfus posted [p:923828405] in Study: 96.... [t:77817572]...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>cis people not wanting to date trans people is more an indication of larger societal issues than a unique problem in and of itself. we aren't pushing against the dating issue specifically; we're pushing against the system that created it</quote> So are gay people heterophobes for not wanting to date the opposite sex now?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 06/25/19 2:12:59 PM #78:	COVxy posted... I'm not, like, chastising people for not being able to fully accept it. But it seems pretty clear as day to me that this is what this is, a form of nonacceptance. Acceptance of transgenders means treating those people with dignity, respecting their identity choices, and generally not acting like an asshole to them. In other words, just treating them like regular people who happen to have a benign medical condition (read for would-be markers: medical condition is not a mental disorder). It does not mean buying hook, line, and sinker that they are biologically identical to non-trans women. And it does not mean needing to adjust your sexual preference to accommodate opposite sex genitalia because someone has a certain identity. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:923828428] in Study: 96.... [t:77817572]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote>I'm not, like, chastising people for not being able to fully accept it. But it seems pretty clear as day to me that this is what this is, a form of nonacceptance. </quote> Acceptance of transgenders means treating those people with dignity, respecting their identity choices, and generally not acting like an asshole to them. In other words, just treating them like regular people who happen to have a benign medical condition (read for would-be markers: medical condition is not a mental disorder). It does not mean buying hook, line, and sinker that they are biologically identical to non-trans women. And it does not mean needing to adjust your sexual preference to accommodate opposite sex genitalia because someone has a certain identity.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nemu 06/25/19 2:14:00 PM #79:	COVxy posted... ThyCorndog posted... also I can support transgender rights without wanting to date one just like I support gay rights without being gay or how I support freedom of religion without ever wanting to be a part of any religion or how I support freedom of speech without condoning all speech ever said I think more equivalently: "I can be a supporter of black people without wanting to be a friend to one" or any sentence in which a statement of support is immediately contradicted by a stance that tells people how you really feel. When people are pressed on this issue for long enough, it tends to be because they get grossed out, because they cannot push it out of their mind that this person is actually a man. I'm not, like, chastising people for not being able to fully accept it. But it seems pretty clear as day to me that this is what this is, a form of nonacceptance. People don't transition because they identify as trans. Well, yes, the person is biologically a male or female. That will never change no matter the hormones or the surgery. I'm perfectly fine referring to them as their identified gender without the need to even think about their biological sex in 98% of cases, but there are cases where their biological sex is and will forever be relevant. I do think the people who continually need to point out "they are a man" are being overly rude and dismissive of how the person wants to identify. <cite>nemu posted [p:923828477] in Study: 96.... [t:77817572]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>also I can support transgender rights without wanting to date one just like I support gay rights without being gay or how I support freedom of religion without ever wanting to be a part of any religion or how I support freedom of speech without condoning all speech ever said</quote> I think more equivalently: "I can be a supporter of black people without wanting to be a friend to one" or any sentence in which a statement of support is immediately contradicted by a stance that tells people how you really feel. When people are pressed on this issue for long enough, it tends to be because they get grossed out, because they cannot push it out of their mind that this person is actually a man. I'm not, like, chastising people for not being able to fully accept it. But it seems pretty clear as day to me that this is what this is, a form of nonacceptance. People don't transition because they identify as trans.</quote> Well, yes, the person is biologically a male or female. That will never change no matter the hormones or the surgery. I'm perfectly fine referring to them as their identified gender without the need to even think about their biological sex in 98% of cases, but there are cases where their biological sex is and will forever be relevant. I do think the people who continually need to point out "they are a man" are being overly rude and dismissive of how the person wants to identify.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bobaban 06/25/19 2:15:44 PM #80:	No trans chicks replaces no fat chicks now <cite>bobaban posted [p:923828553] in Study: 96.... [t:77817572]...</cite> <quote>No trans chicks replaces no fat chicks now</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thanosibe 06/25/19 2:20:59 PM #81:	COVxy posted... thanosibe posted... Just as there are extremist in the opposite direction thinking transpeople aren't the gender Just a simple and clear point to be made here: why else do you think straight people seem to so majorly reject the possibility of dating a transwoman? Do you really believe that a ~97% rejection rate is due to reproduction? In which case, you would imagine a 97% rejection rate for women who have had a hysterectomy for medical purposes? It seems to be, and without pushing any agenda, that the straight forward explanation is that most straight people who categorically reject the possibility of dating a transwoman do so because on some level they still see that transwoman as male. Okay fair enough. But if that is the case with some and they aren't preaching hatred or actively trying to fuck over the rights of transpeople than does it matter? --- I think I need a drink. Almost everybody does only they don't know it. -- Charles Bukowski <cite>thanosibe posted [p:923828813] in Study: 96.... [t:77817572]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thanosibe posted...</cite> <quote>Just as there are extremist in the opposite direction thinking transpeople aren't the gender</quote> Just a simple and clear point to be made here: why else do you think straight people seem to so majorly reject the possibility of dating a transwoman? Do you really believe that a ~97% rejection rate is due to reproduction? In which case, you would imagine a 97% rejection rate for women who have had a hysterectomy for medical purposes? It seems to be, and without pushing any agenda, that the straight forward explanation is that most straight people who categorically reject the possibility of dating a transwoman do so because on some level they still see that transwoman as male.</quote>Okay fair enough. But if that is the case with some and they aren't preaching hatred or actively trying to fuck over the rights of transpeople than does it matter?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Silver Bearings 06/25/19 2:21:00 PM #82:	I fully support people living their lives how they see fit, but I personally have no interest in dating a transgender and that will never change. There is no hatred there, just a reality. --- Silver Bearings 2020: Clear Vision for America <cite>Silver Bearings posted [p:923828814] in Study: 96.... [t:77817572]...</cite> <quote>I fully support people living their lives how they see fit, but I personally have no interest in dating a transgender and that will never change. There is no hatred there, just a reality.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 06/25/19 2:24:02 PM #83:	thanosibe posted... Okay fair enough. But if that is the case with some and they aren't preaching hatred or actively trying to fuck over the rights of transpeople than does it matter? It's about the clarity of the actual stance, and not hiding behind "support" to mask the lack of full acceptance. Support and acceptance sound similar, but in this context mean very different things. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:923828955] in Study: 96.... [t:77817572]...</cite> <quote><cite>thanosibe posted...</cite> <quote>Okay fair enough. But if that is the case with some and they aren't preaching hatred or actively trying to fuck over the rights of transpeople than does it matter? </quote> It's about the clarity of the actual stance, and not hiding behind "support" to mask the lack of full acceptance. Support and acceptance sound similar, but in this context mean very different things.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 06/25/19 2:24:18 PM #84:	COVxy posted... ThyCorndog posted... are you dating a transgender person? No, and I can't say that I've actually interacted with any transpeople for any amount of time that would allow me to determine if I were truly comfortable with it. But if I weren't, I would admit that I just couldn't get see myself to fully accept them in the way that they would want. if you said yes I would have said you're a better person than I am. I haven't actually met a trans person myself either. what you would or would not do doesn't matter. the only thing that matters is what you actually do. potential doesn't mean anything until it's put into action. it's an important thing to understand so you don't end up talking off of a high horse on a dying video game message board --- https://imgur.com/6cPXvLN <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:923828975] in Study: 96.... [t:77817572]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>are you dating a transgender person? </quote> No, and I can't say that I've actually interacted with any transpeople for any amount of time that would allow me to determine if I were truly comfortable with it. But if I weren't, I would admit that I just couldn't get see myself to fully accept them in the way that they would want.</quote> if you said yes I would have said you're a better person than I am. I haven't actually met a trans person myself either. what you would or would not do doesn't matter. the only thing that matters is what you actually do. potential doesn't mean anything until it's put into action. it's an important thing to understand so you don't end up talking off of a high horse on a dying video game message board</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 06/25/19 2:25:41 PM #85:	ThyCorndog posted... COVxy posted... ThyCorndog posted... are you dating a transgender person? No, and I can't say that I've actually interacted with any transpeople for any amount of time that would allow me to determine if I were truly comfortable with it. But if I weren't, I would admit that I just couldn't get see myself to fully accept them in the way that they would want. if you said yes I would have said you're a better person than I am. I haven't actually met a trans person myself either. what you would or would not do doesn't matter. the only thing that matters is what you actually do. potential doesn't mean anything until it's put into action. it's an important thing to understand so you don't end up talking off of a high horse on a dying video game message board No one has ever stated that you have to date a transwoman to accept transwoman. Only that the absolute refusal to date any hypothetical transwoman is evidence for some amount of nonacceptance. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:923829045] in Study: 96.... [t:77817572]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>are you dating a transgender person? </quote> No, and I can't say that I've actually interacted with any transpeople for any amount of time that would allow me to determine if I were truly comfortable with it. But if I weren't, I would admit that I just couldn't get see myself to fully accept them in the way that they would want.</quote> if you said yes I would have said you're a better person than I am. I haven't actually met a trans person myself either. what you would or would not do doesn't matter. the only thing that matters is what you actually do. potential doesn't mean anything until it's put into action. it's an important thing to understand so you don't end up talking off of a high horse on a dying video game message board</quote> No one has ever stated that you have to date a transwoman to accept transwoman. Only that the absolute refusal to date any hypothetical transwoman is evidence for some amount of nonacceptance.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 06/25/19 2:26:09 PM #86:	Phewfus posted... averagejoel posted... cis people not wanting to date trans people is more an indication of larger societal issues than a unique problem in and of itself. we aren't pushing against the dating issue specifically; we're pushing against the system that created it So are gay people heterophobes for not wanting to date the opposite sex now? in the future, please give evidence that you have read and understood what I said before replying like this --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:923829077] in Study: 96.... [t:77817572]...</cite> <quote><cite>Phewfus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>cis people not wanting to date trans people is more an indication of larger societal issues than a unique problem in and of itself. we aren't pushing against the dating issue specifically; we're pushing against the system that created it</quote> So are gay people heterophobes for not wanting to date the opposite sex now?</quote> in the future, please give evidence that you have read and understood what I said before replying like this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 06/25/19 2:27:34 PM #87:	COVxy posted... ThyCorndog posted... COVxy posted... ThyCorndog posted... are you dating a transgender person? No, and I can't say that I've actually interacted with any transpeople for any amount of time that would allow me to determine if I were truly comfortable with it. But if I weren't, I would admit that I just couldn't get see myself to fully accept them in the way that they would want. if you said yes I would have said you're a better person than I am. I haven't actually met a trans person myself either. what you would or would not do doesn't matter. the only thing that matters is what you actually do. potential doesn't mean anything until it's put into action. it's an important thing to understand so you don't end up talking off of a high horse on a dying video game message board No one has ever stated that you have to date a transwoman to accept transwoman. Only that the absolute refusal to date any hypothetical transwoman is evidence for some amount of nonacceptance. I'm only speaking from my current state. not from some absolutist state of all hypotheticals that can ever exist --- https://imgur.com/6cPXvLN <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:923829151] in Study: 96.... [t:77817572]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>are you dating a transgender person? </quote> No, and I can't say that I've actually interacted with any transpeople for any amount of time that would allow me to determine if I were truly comfortable with it. But if I weren't, I would admit that I just couldn't get see myself to fully accept them in the way that they would want.</quote> if you said yes I would have said you're a better person than I am. I haven't actually met a trans person myself either. what you would or would not do doesn't matter. the only thing that matters is what you actually do. potential doesn't mean anything until it's put into action. it's an important thing to understand so you don't end up talking off of a high horse on a dying video game message board</quote> No one has ever stated that you have to date a transwoman to accept transwoman. Only that the absolute refusal to date any hypothetical transwoman is evidence for some amount of nonacceptance.</quote> I'm only speaking from my current state. not from some absolutist state of all hypotheticals that can ever exist</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Trent 06/25/19 2:28:28 PM #88:	if i found out my wife was a transgender, i'd be like "wuhhh?" and then probably just stay married to her it'd be cheaper than divorce does that count --- i swear to God most of y'all cats just don't know The Trent you barely know yourself so i guess most of y'all should be offended <cite>The Trent posted [p:923829200] in Study: 96.... [t:77817572]...</cite> <quote>if i found out my wife was a transgender, i'd be like "wuhhh?" and then probably just stay married to her it'd be cheaper than divorce does that count</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 06/25/19 2:28:37 PM #89:	ThyCorndog posted... COVxy posted... ThyCorndog posted... COVxy posted... ThyCorndog posted... are you dating a transgender person? No, and I can't say that I've actually interacted with any transpeople for any amount of time that would allow me to determine if I were truly comfortable with it. But if I weren't, I would admit that I just couldn't get see myself to fully accept them in the way that they would want. if you said yes I would have said you're a better person than I am. I haven't actually met a trans person myself either. what you would or would not do doesn't matter. the only thing that matters is what you actually do. potential doesn't mean anything until it's put into action. it's an important thing to understand so you don't end up talking off of a high horse on a dying video game message board No one has ever stated that you have to date a transwoman to accept transwoman. Only that the absolute refusal to date any hypothetical transwoman is evidence for some amount of nonacceptance. I'm only speaking from my current state. not from some absolutist state of all hypotheticals that can ever exist Your weird double talk is exactly the point I'm making here. Why are you trying so hard to obscure your actual thoughts? --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:923829208] in Study: 96.... [t:77817572]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>are you dating a transgender person? </quote> No, and I can't say that I've actually interacted with any transpeople for any amount of time that would allow me to determine if I were truly comfortable with it. But if I weren't, I would admit that I just couldn't get see myself to fully accept them in the way that they would want.</quote> if you said yes I would have said you're a better person than I am. I haven't actually met a trans person myself either. what you would or would not do doesn't matter. the only thing that matters is what you actually do. potential doesn't mean anything until it's put into action. it's an important thing to understand so you don't end up talking off of a high horse on a dying video game message board</quote> No one has ever stated that you have to date a transwoman to accept transwoman. Only that the absolute refusal to date any hypothetical transwoman is evidence for some amount of nonacceptance.</quote> I'm only speaking from my current state. not from some absolutist state of all hypotheticals that can ever exist</quote> Your weird double talk is exactly the point I'm making here. Why are you trying so hard to obscure your actual thoughts?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thanosibe 06/25/19 2:30:52 PM #90:	COVxy posted... thanosibe posted... Okay fair enough. But if that is the case with some and they aren't preaching hatred or actively trying to fuck over the rights of transpeople than does it matter? It's about the clarity of the actual stance, and not hiding behind "support" to mask the lack of full acceptance. Support and acceptance sound similar, but in this context mean very different things. Okay I can see your point if you really aren't accepting of them and their gender identity. But if on a romantic or sexual level one is not willing to engage with a transperson than is that the same as acceptance in any other aspect? We had people trying to, in the past, "cure" (and unfortunately probably still do) homosexuality by convincing homosexual people that they were indeed just misguided heterosexual people. Are we going to now to try and "cure" heterosexuality by redefining it? --- I think I need a drink. Almost everybody does only they don't know it. -- Charles Bukowski <cite>thanosibe posted [p:923829331] in Study: 96.... [t:77817572]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thanosibe posted...</cite> <quote>Okay fair enough. But if that is the case with some and they aren't preaching hatred or actively trying to fuck over the rights of transpeople than does it matter? </quote> It's about the clarity of the actual stance, and not hiding behind "support" to mask the lack of full acceptance. Support and acceptance sound similar, but in this context mean very different things.</quote>Okay I can see your point if you really aren't accepting of them and their gender identity. But if on a romantic or sexual level one is not willing to engage with a transperson than is that the same as acceptance in any other aspect? We had people trying to, in the past, "cure" (and unfortunately probably still do) homosexuality by convincing homosexual people that they were indeed just misguided heterosexual people. Are we going to now to try and "cure" heterosexuality by redefining it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 06/25/19 2:31:21 PM #91:	COVxy posted... ThyCorndog posted... COVxy posted... ThyCorndog posted... COVxy posted... ThyCorndog posted... are you dating a transgender person? No, and I can't say that I've actually interacted with any transpeople for any amount of time that would allow me to determine if I were truly comfortable with it. But if I weren't, I would admit that I just couldn't get see myself to fully accept them in the way that they would want. if you said yes I would have said you're a better person than I am. I haven't actually met a trans person myself either. what you would or would not do doesn't matter. the only thing that matters is what you actually do. potential doesn't mean anything until it's put into action. it's an important thing to understand so you don't end up talking off of a high horse on a dying video game message board No one has ever stated that you have to date a transwoman to accept transwoman. Only that the absolute refusal to date any hypothetical transwoman is evidence for some amount of nonacceptance. I'm only speaking from my current state. not from some absolutist state of all hypotheticals that can ever exist Your weird double talk is exactly the point I'm making here. Why are you trying so hard to obscure your actual thoughts? i'm not double talking. you said I had absolute refusal to date any hypothetical transwoman. that's not true. I didn't make any absolute statements. all I said is that i don't want to date a transwoman. is it implicit that therefore I would never under any circumstance? it's possible one could show up where i'd absolutely fall in love with them. I just don't see it happening is all --- https://imgur.com/6cPXvLN <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:923829363] in Study: 96.... [t:77817572]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>are you dating a transgender person? </quote> No, and I can't say that I've actually interacted with any transpeople for any amount of time that would allow me to determine if I were truly comfortable with it. But if I weren't, I would admit that I just couldn't get see myself to fully accept them in the way that they would want.</quote> if you said yes I would have said you're a better person than I am. I haven't actually met a trans person myself either. what you would or would not do doesn't matter. the only thing that matters is what you actually do. potential doesn't mean anything until it's put into action. it's an important thing to understand so you don't end up talking off of a high horse on a dying video game message board</quote> No one has ever stated that you have to date a transwoman to accept transwoman. Only that the absolute refusal to date any hypothetical transwoman is evidence for some amount of nonacceptance.</quote> I'm only speaking from my current state. not from some absolutist state of all hypotheticals that can ever exist</quote> Your weird double talk is exactly the point I'm making here. Why are you trying so hard to obscure your actual thoughts?</quote> i'm not double talking. you said I had absolute refusal to date any hypothetical transwoman. that's not true. I didn't make any absolute statements. all I said is that i don't want to date a transwoman. is it implicit that therefore I would never under any circumstance? it's possible one could show up where i'd absolutely fall in love with them. I just don't see it happening is all</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BeatScrafty2 06/25/19 2:35:04 PM #92:	spudger posted... im def in that group support but no involvement lol This. --- 3DS FC: 3652-1012-6122 I'm not necessarily always right, so take anything I say with a grain of salt. <cite>BeatScrafty2 posted [p:923829573] in Study: 96.... [t:77817572]...</cite> <quote><cite>spudger posted...</cite> <quote>im def in that group support but no involvement lol</quote> This.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rodu_jr 06/25/19 2:35:10 PM #93:	woman who won't date me because I'm bald are peladophobes :( <cite>rodu_jr posted [p:923829576] in Study: 96.... [t:77817572]...</cite> <quote>woman who won't date me because I'm bald are peladophobes :(</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phewfus 06/25/19 2:47:50 PM #94:	averagejoel posted... Phewfus posted... averagejoel posted... cis people not wanting to date trans people is more an indication of larger societal issues than a unique problem in and of itself. we aren't pushing against the dating issue specifically; we're pushing against the system that created it So are gay people heterophobes for not wanting to date the opposite sex now? in the future, please give evidence that you have read and understood what I said before replying like this Nice dodge Why are gay people removed from this reasoning? Are gay people not wanting to date a straight person an indication of larger societal issues? If it is for straight people not wanting to date trans, then the same holds true for other groups. <cite>Phewfus posted [p:923830248] in Study: 96.... [t:77817572]...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Phewfus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>cis people not wanting to date trans people is more an indication of larger societal issues than a unique problem in and of itself. we aren't pushing against the dating issue specifically; we're pushing against the system that created it</quote> So are gay people heterophobes for not wanting to date the opposite sex now?</quote> in the future, please give evidence that you have read and understood what I said before replying like this</quote> Nice dodge Why are gay people removed from this reasoning? Are gay people not wanting to date a straight person an indication of larger societal issues? If it is for straight people not wanting to date trans, then the same holds true for other groups.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yao 06/25/19 2:47:55 PM #95:	Not surprised --- I keep telling my girlfriend she should become a competitive smash player since she doesn't shower often anyways ~ LostForest <cite>Yao posted [p:923830251] in Study: 96.... [t:77817572]...</cite> <quote>Not surprised</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 06/25/19 2:49:31 PM #96:	Phewfus posted... averagejoel posted... Phewfus posted... averagejoel posted... cis people not wanting to date trans people is more an indication of larger societal issues than a unique problem in and of itself. we aren't pushing against the dating issue specifically; we're pushing against the system that created it So are gay people heterophobes for not wanting to date the opposite sex now? in the future, please give evidence that you have read and understood what I said before replying like this Nice dodge Why are gay people removed from this reasoning? Are gay people not wanting to date a straight person an indication of larger societal issues? If it is for straight people not wanting to date trans, then the same holds true for other groups. did you legitimately not understand what I said or are you being dense on purpose? --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:923830344] in Study: 96.... [t:77817572]...</cite> <quote><cite>Phewfus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Phewfus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>cis people not wanting to date trans people is more an indication of larger societal issues than a unique problem in and of itself. we aren't pushing against the dating issue specifically; we're pushing against the system that created it</quote> So are gay people heterophobes for not wanting to date the opposite sex now?</quote> in the future, please give evidence that you have read and understood what I said before replying like this</quote> Nice dodge Why are gay people removed from this reasoning? Are gay people not wanting to date a straight person an indication of larger societal issues? If it is for straight people not wanting to date trans, then the same holds true for other groups.</quote> did you legitimately not understand what I said or are you being dense on purpose?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
omega cookie 06/25/19 3:14:59 PM #97:	96.9% of straight people are actually straight. Sort of disheartening that someone actually spent money to find this out, but here we are. --- FFRK: BRKB - Eiko - Guardian Mog <cite>omega cookie posted [p:923831518] in Study: 96.... [t:77817572]...</cite> <quote>96.9% of straight people are actually straight. Sort of disheartening that someone actually spent money to find this out, but here we are.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 06/25/19 3:58:38 PM #98:	omega cookie posted... 96.9% of straight people are actually straight. Sort of disheartening that someone actually spent money to find this out, but here we are. I have you tagged as Gihren Zabi for a reason. --- https://i.imgtc.ws/x2KBsjI.png <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:923833539] in Study: 96.... [t:77817572]...</cite> <quote><cite>omega cookie posted...</cite> <quote>96.9% of straight people are actually straight. Sort of disheartening that someone actually spent money to find this out, but here we are.</quote> I have you tagged as Gihren Zabi for a reason.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
omega cookie 06/25/19 5:37:56 PM #99:	gunplagirl posted... omega cookie posted... 96.9% of straight people are actually straight. Sort of disheartening that someone actually spent money to find this out, but here we are. I have you tagged as Gihren Zabi for a reason. And I don't have you tagged because you're irrelevant. Your point? --- FFRK: BRKB - Eiko - Guardian Mog <cite>omega cookie posted [p:923837922] in Study: 96.... [t:77817572]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>omega cookie posted...</cite> <quote>96.9% of straight people are actually straight. Sort of disheartening that someone actually spent money to find this out, but here we are.</quote> I have you tagged as Gihren Zabi for a reason.</quote> And I don't have you tagged because you're irrelevant. Your point?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EffectAndCause 06/25/19 5:38:46 PM #100:	Straight men are only attracted to women?! --- https://imgur.com/wMshiEN <cite>EffectAndCause posted [p:923837968] in Study: 96.... [t:77817572]...</cite> <quote>Straight men are only attracted to women?!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ving_Rhames 06/25/19 5:41:04 PM #101:	And? --- the real Irving Rameses https://imgur.com/A7f6F9h <cite>Ving_Rhames posted [p:923838067] in Study: 96.... [t:77817572]...</cite> <quote>And?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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