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DarkRoast
06/28/19 7:52:46 AM
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It was still 1,000x better and more informative than anything that ever came out of the GOP.

And yeah, Beto is pretty much not ready for primetime. Not really sure what people saw in him.

Kamala kicked ass though.

Kinda wish Biden would be more active. I know he's the establishment choice and doesn't want to blow it early, so maybe that'll change?
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Blue_Dream87
06/28/19 7:53:44 AM
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Biden is fucking finished
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DarkRoast
06/28/19 7:54:27 AM
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Blue_Dream87 posted...
Biden is fucking finished


Not so fast, hombre.

Diamond Joe is just getting started
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DarkRoast
06/28/19 7:57:55 AM
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CrimsonRage posted...
who said it's disappointing? i thought the going opinion was that it was better than the first night, mostly due to kamala harris. she was on fire!


Let me rephrase - disappointing for the traditional candidates. Biden, Beto, etc.

And Yang. I mean yeesh.
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DarkRoast
06/28/19 8:03:41 AM
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I kinda like Bernie's "you know what, screw the establishment" schtick. He needed more of that last time.
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Doom_Art
06/28/19 8:05:52 AM
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CrimsonRage posted...
bernie has trouble standing out now that other candidates have adopted his platform

This is true. I love the guy but his whole thing during the debates last night was basically just "The Greatest Hits of 2016"
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Kavatar
06/28/19 8:22:40 AM
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The only disappointing thing about the debates was that they had to devote some time to all the throwaway candidates.
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Squall28
06/28/19 8:24:57 AM
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CrimsonRage posted...
bernie has trouble standing out now that other candidates have adopted his platform


More like stole his platform. Pretty obvious none of the others believe in it.
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DoubleDare
06/28/19 8:32:15 AM
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Fuck Bernie, I will be DAMNED if my paycheck is going to get lower to give unemployed pieces of shit and illegal immigrants healthcare.
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RebelElite791
06/28/19 8:42:09 AM
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DoubleDare posted...
Fuck Bernie, I will be DAMNED if my paycheck is going to get lower to give unemployed pieces of shit and illegal immigrants healthcare.

As if anyone believes you have a job, let alone one earning enough to be taxed lol.
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Bluebomber182
06/28/19 8:45:12 AM
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The Admiral
06/28/19 8:51:25 AM
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This is all good theater. but the nominee will be Biden. Might be useful for VP auditions, however. I think Harris would be a strong choice.
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BignutzisBack
06/28/19 8:56:04 AM
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TheBiggerWiggle
06/28/19 8:57:36 AM
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DoubleDare posted...
Fuck Bernie, I will be DAMNED if my paycheck is going to get lower to give unemployed pieces of shit and illegal immigrants healthcare.


Instead youre ok with you taxes being increased because the rich are taxes less?
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DarkRoast
06/28/19 8:58:56 AM
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TheBiggerWiggle posted...
DoubleDare posted...
Fuck Bernie, I will be DAMNED if my paycheck is going to get lower to give unemployed pieces of shit and illegal immigrants healthcare.


Instead youre ok with you taxes being increased because the rich are taxes less?


Considering I pay 40% of my paycheck in taxes, I wouldn't mind a break.

But not from Trump.
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StealthRock
06/28/19 9:01:31 AM
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DNC is disappointing. Especially for black people
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TheBiggerWiggle
06/28/19 9:02:11 AM
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DarkRoast posted...
TheBiggerWiggle posted...
DoubleDare posted...
Fuck Bernie, I will be DAMNED if my paycheck is going to get lower to give unemployed pieces of shit and illegal immigrants healthcare.


Instead youre ok with you taxes being increased because the rich are taxes less?


Considering I pay 40% of my paycheck in taxes, I wouldn't mind a break.

But not from Trump.


Wealthy enough to get taxed out the ass but poor enough to still have to pay them
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darkprince45
06/28/19 9:03:49 AM
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The Admiral posted...
This is all good theater. but the nominee will be Biden. Might be useful for VP auditions, however. I think Harris would be a strong choice.

In all sad honesty, this. Itll be a huge surprise if Bernie or warren pull this off.. theyll finish off a good 2nd. As for the others, its great Castro showed a strong presence, he will finish a nice 7th. They should rally behind Bernie/Warren and the rest of them as cabinet members. I found myself liking people like fucking de blasio
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littlebro07
06/28/19 9:05:20 AM
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The Admiral posted...
This is all good theater. but the nominee will be Biden. Might be useful for VP auditions, however. I think Harris would be a strong choice.


I think Harris with Buttigieg as VP would be a good pairing

Just imagine a Harris vs Trump debate, or Pence vs Buttigieg.
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DarkRoast
06/28/19 9:11:13 AM
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TheBiggerWiggle posted...
DarkRoast posted...
TheBiggerWiggle posted...
DoubleDare posted...
Fuck Bernie, I will be DAMNED if my paycheck is going to get lower to give unemployed pieces of shit and illegal immigrants healthcare.


Instead youre ok with you taxes being increased because the rich are taxes less?


Considering I pay 40% of my paycheck in taxes, I wouldn't mind a break.

But not from Trump.


Wealthy enough to get taxed out the ass but poor enough to still have to pay them


Upper middle class is really the class that gets murdered by our current tax system while the very wealthy enjoys tax havens. Sucks.
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DarkRoast
06/28/19 9:12:13 AM
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littlebro07 posted...
The Admiral posted...
This is all good theater. but the nominee will be Biden. Might be useful for VP auditions, however. I think Harris would be a strong choice.


I think Harris with Buttigieg as VP would be a good pairing

Just imagine a Harris vs Trump debate, or Pence vs Buttigieg.


Pence has deplorable political views but unlike Trump he does have political acumen.
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The Admiral
06/28/19 9:41:15 AM
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DarkRoast posted...
TheBiggerWiggle posted...
DarkRoast posted...
TheBiggerWiggle posted...
DoubleDare posted...
Fuck Bernie, I will be DAMNED if my paycheck is going to get lower to give unemployed pieces of shit and illegal immigrants healthcare.


Instead youre ok with you taxes being increased because the rich are taxes less?


Considering I pay 40% of my paycheck in taxes, I wouldn't mind a break.

But not from Trump.


Wealthy enough to get taxed out the ass but poor enough to still have to pay them


Upper middle class is really the class that gets murdered by our current tax system while the very wealthy enjoys tax havens. Sucks.


It's not really tax havens or shelters, it's that the extremely wealthy earn most of their income from capital gains, which is taxed much lower than ordinary income. This is 100% legal, and there haven't been any major efforts from either party to change that.
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ElatedVenusaur
06/28/19 9:48:29 AM
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Squall28 posted...
CrimsonRage posted...
bernie has trouble standing out now that other candidates have adopted his platform


More like stole his platform. Pretty obvious none of the others believe in it.

Yeah, thats the whole deal. Didnt expect Gillibrand to be so eager to associate herself with him.
Kamala might have struck the strongest blow, but Bennett(!) and Bernie each got good digs in too: Bennett bagged Biden on his terrible deal with McConnell on the Bush tax cuts, while Bernie drew a great contrast over the Iraq war.
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TheBiggerWiggle
06/28/19 9:53:15 AM
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DarkRoast posted...
TheBiggerWiggle posted...
DarkRoast posted...
TheBiggerWiggle posted...
DoubleDare posted...
Fuck Bernie, I will be DAMNED if my paycheck is going to get lower to give unemployed pieces of shit and illegal immigrants healthcare.


Instead youre ok with you taxes being increased because the rich are taxes less?


Considering I pay 40% of my paycheck in taxes, I wouldn't mind a break.

But not from Trump.


Wealthy enough to get taxed out the ass but poor enough to still have to pay them


Upper middle class is really the class that gets murdered by our current tax system while the very wealthy enjoys tax havens. Sucks.


Yeah its broken
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hollow_shrine
06/28/19 10:24:02 AM
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I'm watching a stream now, and this crowd is much less well behaved than the first crowd. Thirty minutes in, and every question devotes into shouting and chaos. They should have done these in groups of five.

EDIT: And mama Kamala just told these rowdy kids to sit down. The crowd is absolutely eating it up. A more cynical person/conspiracy theorist would say that moment was scripted with how well she timed it.
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EnragedSlith
06/28/19 10:34:49 AM
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Blue_Dream87 posted...
Biden is fucking finished

Haha

No. Hell likely win the nomination. Youre gonna hear a bunch of negative press from progressive rags and the youthful electorate, but I guarantee that boomers are going to silently come out in droves for him. Its what happened with Trump, too.

And thats not a bad thing. Dems are digging themselves a grave with identity politics and abortion, but they need a candidate that appeals to the millions of disgruntled whites on the rust belt that cost Hillary the election

Edit: also, Kamala is a hypocrite. She dug herself a grave last night for some early political points
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EnragedSlith
06/28/19 10:37:27 AM
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The Admiral posted...
This is all good theater. but the nominee will be Biden. Might be useful for VP auditions, however. I think Harris would be a strong choice.

Echoing this again. I know a lot of Republicans who like Biden a lot more than Trump, and thats what will potentially win the election short of an Obama esque cult of personality
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NeuralLaxative
06/28/19 10:38:25 AM
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Why bother watching, you know they rigged it for Clinton last time, diamond joe will be on the ticket mark my words; gotta maintain the illusion of choice
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s0nicfan
06/28/19 10:39:53 AM
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NeuralLaxative posted...
Why bother watching, you know they rigged it for Clinton last time, diamond joe will be on the ticket mark my words; gotta maintain the illusion of choice


Out of curiosity... Biden has been dominating every poll since even before he ran. Are you also suggesting that the entirety of mainstream media is also working with the DNC to rig things, or is Biden maybe just the most popular?
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hollow_shrine
06/28/19 10:40:55 AM
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NeuralLaxative posted...
Why bother watching, you know they rigged it for Clinton last time, diamond joe will be on the ticket mark my words; gotta maintain the illusion of choice

If nothing else, so I know what I'm talking about. Also Biden's resilience isn't the story getting air right now.

s0nicfan posted...
Biden has been dominating every poll since even before he ran.

Recently (last week or so) he got topped by Warren.
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Goats
06/28/19 10:46:12 AM
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EnragedSlith posted...
The Admiral posted...
This is all good theater. but the nominee will be Biden. Might be useful for VP auditions, however. I think Harris would be a strong choice.

Echoing this again. I know a lot of Republicans who like Biden a lot more than Trump, and thats what will potentially win the election short of an Obama esque cult of personality


The only reason why Republicans like Biden is because he'd be a weak candidate. And they certainly don't like him more than Trump. It's just users like Admiral being disengenuous again.
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spanky1
06/28/19 10:48:55 AM
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I just love how angry Bernie is all the time.

He's like a cartoon character.
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Sad_Face
06/28/19 10:57:31 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
NeuralLaxative posted...
Why bother watching, you know they rigged it for Clinton last time, diamond joe will be on the ticket mark my words; gotta maintain the illusion of choice


Out of curiosity... Biden has been dominating every poll since even before he ran. Are you also suggesting that the entirety of mainstream media is also working with the DNC to rig things, or is Biden maybe just the most popular?


Clinton was the most popular from the start and they still rigged it in her favor the entire time. And no one got called out for it. Why would things change now?
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LRodC
06/28/19 11:11:33 AM
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DoubleDare posted...

Careful, insulting people for their lack of societal contributions is considered hate speech in 2019.
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The_OD
06/28/19 11:13:20 AM
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the only thing harris, and AOC have in common is they'd look great on a pornset.
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darkprince45
06/28/19 11:26:01 AM
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The_OD posted...
the only thing harris, and AOC have in common is they'd look great on a pornset.

List pornstars that look like kamala, people
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Megaman50100
06/28/19 11:31:28 AM
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If Yang hadn't gotten hit with the stage fright and completely dropped the ball with his very first impression in the debates I think he would have been received so much better. I mean he has literally written the book on the response to that question, but that was the absolute worst time to have a brain fart and seem like you were caught off guard by the question.
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DarthWendy
06/28/19 11:35:09 AM
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The President of the United States of America himself found it #BORING in an unprecedented cunning tweet. And he's The President. Not exactly your average joe.
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Megaman50100
06/28/19 11:35:23 AM
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I also think he needs to focus on the economic reasons that lead him to UBI instead of jumping right into to UBI itself. It exacerbates him as a gimmick candidate, and he himself recognizes UBI is simply a cushion for the real problems we are about to face, not a true solution.
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BillyKidd
06/28/19 11:38:55 AM
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No American flag(s) on stage. No American flag pins on candidates. Speaking spanish. Wanting to raise everybody's taxes. Wanting to have Americans pay illegal's health insurance. Don't see how that could be disappointing to an American.
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CommonStar
06/28/19 11:39:46 AM
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Yang failed because he barely said anything and when he did, it was just too much and for the average electorate it went over their heads. If he can't clearly and briefly explain his stance, then it's not going to help him. They even gave him more time to answer the first question than they did for other candidates.
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EnragedSlith
06/28/19 11:40:06 AM
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Goats posted...
EnragedSlith posted...
The Admiral posted...
This is all good theater. but the nominee will be Biden. Might be useful for VP auditions, however. I think Harris would be a strong choice.

Echoing this again. I know a lot of Republicans who like Biden a lot more than Trump, and thats what will potentially win the election short of an Obama esque cult of personality


The only reason why Republicans like Biden is because he'd be a weak candidate. And they certainly don't like him more than Trump. It's just users like Admiral being disengenuous again.

Nah
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Abiz_
06/28/19 11:40:34 AM
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CrimsonRage posted...
bernie has trouble standing out now that other candidates have adopted his platform

He doesn't really need to when people are adopting HIS stances. It looks disingenuous for a ton of other people to switch to his ideas.Flip floppers.
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King_Hellebuyck
06/28/19 11:45:51 AM
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BillyKidd posted...
No American flag(s) on stage. No American flag pins on candidates. Speaking spanish. Wanting to raise everybody's taxes. Wanting to have Americans pay illegal's health insurance. Don't see how that could be disappointing to an American.


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hollow_shrine
06/28/19 11:54:46 AM
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That Biden vs Kamala argument over busing was a bloodbath.

I mean, he was going to get it from Harris or Warren; he had to know that going in.Still, really surprised at how poorly he prepared for that moment.
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CommonStar
06/28/19 12:08:35 PM
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I also thought another great moment was when Bennet called Biden out on the tax deal he made with Mitch McConnell that he proudly touted that actually was a terrible deal for the American people.
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ReiRei89
06/28/19 12:41:40 PM
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BignutzisBack posted...
Yang easily won the debate


No one actually thinks this, not even Yang's campaign. They've been on suicide watch since last night.
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