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Veggeta X
06/29/19 3:26:12 PM
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Uncle tom

A black man who will do anything to stay in good standing with "the white man" including betray his own people

Leroy is such an Uncle Tom; he told the boss I took a 2 hour lunch; I had to go see my baby momma

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Lorthremar
06/29/19 3:29:18 PM
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Yes? Be a white guy and call someone an Uncle Tom, see how it goes.
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Bad_Mojo
06/29/19 3:30:12 PM
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eggcorn
06/29/19 3:58:17 PM
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Yes.
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Jiek_Fafn
06/29/19 3:59:20 PM
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Fuck yes it is
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r25
06/29/19 4:01:22 PM
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I've seen it used on anyone who isn't white. Not just Africans.
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ThanksUglyGod
06/29/19 4:01:31 PM
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It can be. But being an Uncle Tom can be racist too.
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Lordgold666
06/29/19 4:06:38 PM
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Uncles name is actually thomas
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Rimmer_Dall
06/29/19 4:08:07 PM
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It literally means "race traitor".
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alimajor
06/29/19 4:08:11 PM
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Im black
I have an Uncle named Tom
It took me 25 years to realize why we called him Big Tom
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mattnd2007
06/29/19 4:12:28 PM
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What about Uncle ruckus?

Lol I kid. But I always think of him and I suppose the whole point of him is to like be an uncle Tom to the 90000th power
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YookaLaylee
06/29/19 4:12:48 PM
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Anteaterking
06/29/19 4:14:19 PM
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It obviously depends on how it is being used, but generally no. It's related to race, but that's not the same thing as it being racist.
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dmorrissey
06/29/19 4:15:35 PM
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It's literally used for black people who agree with white people, so it's all about race.
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Complete_Idi0t
06/29/19 4:16:23 PM
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but what if you actually have an uncle named Tom
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EnragedSlith
06/29/19 4:19:26 PM
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Yes. It stems from a controversial book that was supposed to be absolutionist at the time but later took on racist connotations.
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Taharqa_
06/29/19 4:21:20 PM
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dmorrissey posted...
It's literally used for black people who agree with white people, so it's all about race.


No it doesn't.
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Delirious_Beard
06/29/19 4:21:53 PM
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Anteaterking posted...
It obviously depends on how it is being used, but generally no. It's related to race, but that's not the same thing as it being racist.

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KeeperOfShadows
06/29/19 4:23:33 PM
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Anteaterking posted...
It obviously depends on how it is being used, but generally no. It's related to race, but that's not the same thing as it being racist.

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Infinite 2003
06/29/19 4:24:23 PM
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It implies you need to think and act a certain way to be black so it seems pretty racist to me
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YookaLaylee
06/29/19 4:26:24 PM
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Infinite 2003 posted...
It implies you need to think and act a certain way to be black so it seems pretty racist to me

Thats not what it implies. An Uncle Tom is someone who sucks up to white people and is ashamed of the fact that theyre black. They say racist stuff about other black people and are even willing to throw them under the bus in order to get ahead in life
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Warrior_Man
06/29/19 4:27:37 PM
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Lol at "it's racial but not racist" when it's exclusively used to denigrate.
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FrisbeeDude
06/29/19 4:33:08 PM
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lmao at asking the Current "theres nothing wrong wrong with workplace racial discrimination" Events board this question
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DarthWendy
06/29/19 4:42:18 PM
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Lorthremar posted...
Yes? Be a white guy and call someone an Uncle Tom, see how it goes.

What about a black guy ? If a black guy calls another black guy an Uncle tom ?
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dmorrissey
06/29/19 4:42:36 PM
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YookaLaylee posted...
Infinite 2003 posted...
It implies you need to think and act a certain way to be black so it seems pretty racist to me

Thats not what it implies. An Uncle Tom is someone who sucks up to white people and is ashamed of the fact that theyre black. They say racist stuff about other black people and are even willing to throw them under the bus in order to get ahead in life

Nah you can be called an Uncle Tom for thinking OJ Simpson is a murderer.
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Solar_Crimson
06/29/19 4:42:50 PM
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ThanksUglyGod posted...
It can be. But being an Uncle Tom can be racist too.

This.
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brestugo
06/29/19 5:27:26 PM
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DarthWendy posted...
Lorthremar posted...
Yes? Be a white guy and call someone an Uncle Tom, see how it goes.

What about a black guy ? If a black guy calls another black guy an Uncle tom ?

Hands will be thrown.
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brestugo
06/29/19 5:28:28 PM
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dmorrissey posted...
YookaLaylee posted...
Infinite 2003 posted...
It implies you need to think and act a certain way to be black so it seems pretty racist to me

Thats not what it implies. An Uncle Tom is someone who sucks up to white people and is ashamed of the fact that theyre black. They say racist stuff about other black people and are even willing to throw them under the bus in order to get ahead in life

Nah you can be called an Uncle Tom for thinking OJ Simpson is a murderer.

Which is amusing because OJ was called an Uncle Tom before the murders.
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FrisbeeDude
06/29/19 5:31:27 PM
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brestugo posted...
dmorrissey posted...
YookaLaylee posted...
Infinite 2003 posted...
It implies you need to think and act a certain way to be black so it seems pretty racist to me

Thats not what it implies. An Uncle Tom is someone who sucks up to white people and is ashamed of the fact that theyre black. They say racist stuff about other black people and are even willing to throw them under the bus in order to get ahead in life

Nah you can be called an Uncle Tom for thinking OJ Simpson is a murderer.

Which is amusing because OJ was called an Uncle Tom before the murders.


and rightfully so. OJ used black resentment of police to get off on murder, and black folks at the time used a dude who went out of his way to separate himself from the black populace at large to stick it to the LAPD, with the Goldmans being collateral damage
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brestugo
06/29/19 5:35:04 PM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
brestugo posted...
dmorrissey posted...
YookaLaylee posted...
Infinite 2003 posted...
It implies you need to think and act a certain way to be black so it seems pretty racist to me

Thats not what it implies. An Uncle Tom is someone who sucks up to white people and is ashamed of the fact that theyre black. They say racist stuff about other black people and are even willing to throw them under the bus in order to get ahead in life

Nah you can be called an Uncle Tom for thinking OJ Simpson is a murderer.

Which is amusing because OJ was called an Uncle Tom before the murders.


and rightfully so. OJ used black resentment of police to get off on murder, and black folks at the time used a dude who went out of his way to separate himself from the populace at large to stick it to the LAPD, with the Goldmans being collateral damage

Not disagreeing with you, just pointing things out.
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dmorrissey
06/29/19 5:36:10 PM
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If a black guy supports a white guy over an Uncle Tom, is he also an Uncle Tom?
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ChaoticKnuckles
06/29/19 5:37:53 PM
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dmorrissey posted...
It's literally used for black people who agree with white people, so it's all about race.


Nope.
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VTBM
06/29/19 5:46:48 PM
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Jerry_Hellyeah
06/30/19 8:58:43 AM
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As a democrat who thinks the party is corrupt to the core and manipulating people by painting half of our country's population as the horrible bigoted enemy, Im known online as "Uncle Tom" and "Not Really Black" by the "tolerant" racist good guys.
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Twin3Turbo
06/30/19 9:12:54 AM
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Ive always greatly disliked the usage of Uncle Tom and any such similar terms. For a wide variety of reasons.
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Veggeta X
06/30/19 10:18:33 AM
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Hmm regardless if it is technically racist or not, it's definitely a controversial and offensive term. Best not to use it ever. With that said, I am the type of person who would most definitely shame anyone who would deny their background and their heritage. I wouldn't call anyone a race traitor but yeah you should be proud of where you come from.
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GiftedACIII
06/30/19 11:24:49 AM
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I think its a lot easier and doesnt make you look prejudiced if you simply say they have internalized racism.
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The Admiral
06/30/19 11:39:28 AM
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The term is frequently used by other black people, though. It's not really racist in that case, but it's an example of toxic racialism. Anyone who thinks people should act or think a certain way because of their race -- and tried to shame/insult them if they don't -- have deep-rooted racial issues themselves.
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Twin3Turbo
06/30/19 2:15:06 PM
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The Admiral posted...
The term is frequently used by other black people, though. It's not really racist in that case, but it's an example of toxic racialism. Anyone who thinks people should act or think a certain way because of their race -- and tried to shame/insult them if they don't -- have deep-rooted racial issues themselves.

As much as I hate to admit it, I agree. The above is a major part of the reason that i have always disliked the term. Also, most of the time I see it used, its just used as a way to ostracize/dismiss the person, which effectively ends any potential beneficial rational discussion.
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Twin3Turbo
06/30/19 2:17:00 PM
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GiftedACIII posted...
I think its a lot easier and doesnt make you look prejudiced if you simply say they have internalized racism.

To be honest, I disagree with most accusations of internalized racism.
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Taharqa_
06/30/19 2:19:33 PM
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Twin3Turbo posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
I think its a lot easier and doesnt make you look prejudiced if you simply say they have internalized racism.

To be honest, I disagree with most accusations of internalized racism.


Jesse Lee Peterson is internalized racism personified.
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Shablagoo
06/30/19 2:48:44 PM
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Infinite 2003 posted...
It implies you need to think and act a certain way to be black so it seems pretty racist to me

To me it implies you shouldnt sell out your fellow slaves to get a few more crumbs at the masters dinner table. It may have originated with race but its basically a term to call out those who betray their people for petty personal gain.

Like Judas.
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Twin3Turbo
06/30/19 3:14:04 PM
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Taharqa_ posted...
Twin3Turbo posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
I think its a lot easier and doesnt make you look prejudiced if you simply say they have internalized racism.

To be honest, I disagree with most accusations of internalized racism.


Jesse Lee Peterson is internalized racism personified.

Ive seen a few videos of him. As well as one showing how dishonest he was when he brought an atheist on his show once. Yeah hes definitely not someone I would ever care to argue in favor of
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