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Ryven 07/14/19 5:08:20 PM #103:	As a hardcore, and lifelong Bond fan, I might get flak for saying this, but: I'm totally fine with this. If they're not changing James Bond the character, and simply giving the 00 to another person, i'm totally fine with it. They're leaving Bond alone and the universe continues? I'm good with it. --- 'We're not gonna make it, are we? People i mean.' 'It's in your nature to destroy yourselves.' <cite>Ryven posted [p:924683533] in 007 is pla... [t:77863045]...</cite> <quote>As a hardcore, and lifelong Bond fan, I might get flak for saying this, but: I'm totally fine with this. If they're not changing James Bond the character, and simply giving the 00 to another person, i'm totally fine with it. They're leaving Bond alone and the universe continues? I'm good with it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kpt_Kapowski 07/14/19 5:21:34 PM #104:	Ryven posted... As a hardcore, and lifelong Bond fan, I might get flak for saying this, but: I'm totally fine with this. If they're not changing James Bond the character, and simply giving the 00 to another person, i'm totally fine with it. They're leaving Bond alone and the universe continues? I'm good with it. Agreed --- https://imgur.com/AUD7lK4 https://imgur.com/AVz8ad6 <cite>Kpt_Kapowski posted [p:924684016] in 007 is pla... [t:77863045]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryven posted...</cite> <quote>As a hardcore, and lifelong Bond fan, I might get flak for saying this, but: I'm totally fine with this. If they're not changing James Bond the character, and simply giving the 00 to another person, i'm totally fine with it. They're leaving Bond alone and the universe continues? I'm good with it.</quote> Agreed</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 07/14/19 5:23:17 PM #105:	Ryven posted... As a hardcore, and lifelong Bond fan, I might get flak for saying this, but: I'm totally fine with this. If they're not changing James Bond the character, and simply giving the 00 to another person, i'm totally fine with it. They're leaving Bond alone and the universe continues? I'm good with it. THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!! --- There are enough attention whores on CE as it is. <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:924684085] in 007 is pla... [t:77863045]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryven posted...</cite> <quote>As a hardcore, and lifelong Bond fan, I might get flak for saying this, but: I'm totally fine with this. If they're not changing James Bond the character, and simply giving the 00 to another person, i'm totally fine with it. They're leaving Bond alone and the universe continues? I'm good with it.</quote> THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crepes 07/14/19 5:25:26 PM #106:	DeadBankerDream posted... Can this actress act? She was terrible in Mrs Marvel It's not like any of the previous Bond actors could act. --- Praxis Makes Perfect The only intelligent tactical response to life's horror is to laugh defiantly at it. ~Soren Kierkegaard <cite>Crepes posted [p:924684164] in 007 is pla... [t:77863045]...</cite> <quote><cite>DeadBankerDream posted...</cite> <quote>Can this actress act? She was terrible in Mrs Marvel</quote> It's not like any of the previous Bond actors could act.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bass_X0 07/14/19 5:27:50 PM #107:	Crepes posted... DeadBankerDream posted... Can this actress act? She was terrible in Mrs Marvel It's not like any of the previous Bond actors could act. Pierce Brosnan? --- "Well, it's not a bad game. It's made by Capcom, so how could it?" ~ AVGN <cite>Bass_X0 posted [p:924684268] in 007 is pla... [t:77863045]...</cite> <quote><cite>Crepes posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DeadBankerDream posted...</cite> <quote>Can this actress act? She was terrible in Mrs Marvel</quote> It's not like any of the previous Bond actors could act.</quote> Pierce Brosnan?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadBankerDream 07/14/19 5:28:21 PM #108:	Crepes posted... DeadBankerDream posted... Can this actress act? She was terrible in Mrs Marvel It's not like any of the previous Bond actors could act. All of them except Moore (and maybe Lazenby) are good actors, so that's a bad take. --- "Your mother was a broken down tub of junk with more gentlemen callers than the operator." <cite>DeadBankerDream posted [p:924684284] in 007 is pla... [t:77863045]...</cite> <quote><cite>Crepes posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DeadBankerDream posted...</cite> <quote>Can this actress act? She was terrible in Mrs Marvel</quote> It's not like any of the previous Bond actors could act.</quote> All of them except Moore (and maybe Lazenby) are good actors, so that's a bad take.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 07/14/19 5:36:56 PM #109:	DeadBankerDream posted... Crepes posted... DeadBankerDream posted... Can this actress act? She was terrible in Mrs Marvel It's not like any of the previous Bond actors could act. All of them except Moore (and maybe Lazenby) are good actors, so that's a bad take. I might be the only one, but Timothy Dalton was a bad choice for Bond. --- There are enough attention whores on CE as it is. <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:924684601] in 007 is pla... [t:77863045]...</cite> <quote><cite>DeadBankerDream posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Crepes posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DeadBankerDream posted...</cite> <quote>Can this actress act? She was terrible in Mrs Marvel</quote> It's not like any of the previous Bond actors could act.</quote> All of them except Moore (and maybe Lazenby) are good actors, so that's a bad take.</quote> I might be the only one, but Timothy Dalton was a bad choice for Bond.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadBankerDream 07/14/19 5:37:54 PM #110:	Bishop9800 posted... I might be the only one, but Timothy Dalton was a bad choice for Bond. I think its either generally accepted that this is true, or that his two films were fairly poor at showing off his capability with the role. Still a fine actor, though. --- "Your mother was a broken down tub of junk with more gentlemen callers than the operator." <cite>DeadBankerDream posted [p:924684640] in 007 is pla... [t:77863045]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote>I might be the only one, but Timothy Dalton was a bad choice for Bond. </quote> I think its either generally accepted that this is true, or that his two films were fairly poor at showing off his capability with the role. Still a fine actor, though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1NfamousACE_2 07/14/19 5:39:52 PM #111:	Im only here for the reactions --- New signature needed, acquire within from management <cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted [p:924684718] in 007 is pla... [t:77863045]...</cite> <quote>Im only here for the reactions</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gamerguymass 07/14/19 6:04:07 PM #112:	Ryven posted... As a hardcore, and lifelong Bond fan, I might get flak for saying this, but: I'm totally fine with this. If they're not changing James Bond the character, and simply giving the 00 to another person, i'm totally fine with it. They're leaving Bond alone and the universe continues? I'm good with it. Except James Bond is 007. After 50+ years they are literally one in the same. Not to mention I believe the franchise has used that actual line as advertising before. Have her be a different 00 instead of ruining the movie by pissing off the fans. As far as I remember 006 in Goldeneye is the only other 00 we have actually met on screen, so its not like they can't fill things in with other 00s. Have her be 009 I think it was that Q said the car was originally for in Spectre, unless he said 009 was a guy, I don't remember. There is no reason to give her the 007 number except as a way to tell the established fanbase to piss off. --- Now Playing: "The Hunt for the Two Missing Nintendo 64 Games" An expansion came out, but I'm still a third of the way through! <cite>Gamerguymass posted [p:924685602] in 007 is pla... [t:77863045]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryven posted...</cite> <quote>As a hardcore, and lifelong Bond fan, I might get flak for saying this, but: I'm totally fine with this. If they're not changing James Bond the character, and simply giving the 00 to another person, i'm totally fine with it. They're leaving Bond alone and the universe continues? I'm good with it.</quote> Except James Bond is 007. After 50+ years they are literally one in the same. Not to mention I believe the franchise has used that actual line as advertising before. Have her be a different 00 instead of ruining the movie by pissing off the fans. As far as I remember 006 in Goldeneye is the only other 00 we have actually met on screen, so its not like they can't fill things in with other 00s. Have her be 009 I think it was that Q said the car was originally for in Spectre, unless he said 009 was a guy, I don't remember. There is no reason to give her the 007 number except as a way to tell the established fanbase to piss off.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
au_gold 07/14/19 6:07:56 PM #114:	In 10 years when James Bond is an asexual, gender fluid, trans alien, we will look back on these days fondly. --- Let me talk to your mother. Get your mother please. <cite>au_gold posted [p:924685753] in 007 is pla... [t:77863045]...</cite> <quote>In 10 years when James Bond is an asexual, gender fluid, trans alien, we will look back on these days fondly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 07/14/19 6:14:03 PM #115:	Gamerguymass posted... Ryven posted... As a hardcore, and lifelong Bond fan, I might get flak for saying this, but: I'm totally fine with this. If they're not changing James Bond the character, and simply giving the 00 to another person, i'm totally fine with it. They're leaving Bond alone and the universe continues? I'm good with it. Except James Bond is 007. After 50+ years they are literally one in the same. Not to mention I believe the franchise has used that actual line as advertising before. Have her be a different 00 instead of ruining the movie by pissing off the fans. As far as I remember 006 in Goldeneye is the only other 00 we have actually met on screen, so its not like they can't fill things in with other 00s. Have her be 009 I think it was that Q said the car was originally for in Spectre, unless he said 009 was a guy, I don't remember. There is no reason to give her the 007 number except as a way to tell the established fanbase to piss off. So would the 'fanbase' be pissed off if a British white guy replaced Bond's 007 codename? --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:924686022] in 007 is pla... [t:77863045]...</cite> <quote><cite>Gamerguymass posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryven posted...</cite> <quote>As a hardcore, and lifelong Bond fan, I might get flak for saying this, but: I'm totally fine with this. If they're not changing James Bond the character, and simply giving the 00 to another person, i'm totally fine with it. They're leaving Bond alone and the universe continues? I'm good with it.</quote> Except James Bond is 007. After 50+ years they are literally one in the same. Not to mention I believe the franchise has used that actual line as advertising before. Have her be a different 00 instead of ruining the movie by pissing off the fans. As far as I remember 006 in Goldeneye is the only other 00 we have actually met on screen, so its not like they can't fill things in with other 00s. Have her be 009 I think it was that Q said the car was originally for in Spectre, unless he said 009 was a guy, I don't remember. There is no reason to give her the 007 number except as a way to tell the established fanbase to piss off.</quote> So would the 'fanbase' be pissed off if a British white guy replaced Bond's 007 codename?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 07/14/19 6:15:21 PM #116:	@Gamerguymass posted... Ryven posted... As a hardcore, and lifelong Bond fan, I might get flak for saying this, but: I'm totally fine with this. If they're not changing James Bond the character, and simply giving the 00 to another person, i'm totally fine with it. They're leaving Bond alone and the universe continues? I'm good with it. Except James Bond is 007. After 50+ years they are literally one in the same. Not to mention I believe the franchise has used that actual line as advertising before. Have her be a different 00 instead of ruining the movie by pissing off the fans. As far as I remember 006 in Goldeneye is the only other 00 we have actually met on screen, so its not like they can't fill things in with other 00s. Have her be 009 I think it was that Q said the car was originally for in Spectre, unless he said 009 was a guy, I don't remember. There is no reason to give her the 007 number except as a way to tell the established fanbase to piss off. Would you and other "established fans" be as angry if a White guy took up the 007 name? --- Be wary of boarding the hype train, lest you end up on the ruse cruise... - nanobuilder (r/nintendo) http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:924686077] in 007 is pla... [t:77863045]...</cite> <quote><cite>@Gamerguymass posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryven posted...</cite> <quote>As a hardcore, and lifelong Bond fan, I might get flak for saying this, but: I'm totally fine with this. If they're not changing James Bond the character, and simply giving the 00 to another person, i'm totally fine with it. They're leaving Bond alone and the universe continues? I'm good with it.</quote> Except James Bond is 007. After 50+ years they are literally one in the same. Not to mention I believe the franchise has used that actual line as advertising before. Have her be a different 00 instead of ruining the movie by pissing off the fans. As far as I remember 006 in Goldeneye is the only other 00 we have actually met on screen, so its not like they can't fill things in with other 00s. Have her be 009 I think it was that Q said the car was originally for in Spectre, unless he said 009 was a guy, I don't remember. There is no reason to give her the 007 number except as a way to tell the established fanbase to piss off.</quote> Would you and other "established fans" be as angry if a White guy took up the 007 name?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 07/14/19 6:18:31 PM #117:	Darmik posted... So would the 'fanbase' be pissed off if a British white guy replaced Bond's 007 codename? Solar_Crimson posted... Would you and other "established fans" be as angry if a White guy took up the 007 name? There is no universe where you would ever accept "of course they'd be as angry" as an answer, so just call him a racist and stop pretending. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:924686205] in 007 is pla... [t:77863045]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>So would the 'fanbase' be pissed off if a British white guy replaced Bond's 007 codename?</quote> <cite>Solar_Crimson posted...</cite> <quote>Would you and other "established fans" be as angry if a White guy took up the 007 name?</quote> There is no universe where you would ever accept "of course they'd be as angry" as an answer, so just call him a racist and stop pretending.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gamerguymass 07/14/19 6:19:23 PM #118:	Solar_Crimson posted... @Gamerguymass posted... Ryven posted... As a hardcore, and lifelong Bond fan, I might get flak for saying this, but: I'm totally fine with this. If they're not changing James Bond the character, and simply giving the 00 to another person, i'm totally fine with it. They're leaving Bond alone and the universe continues? I'm good with it. Except James Bond is 007. After 50+ years they are literally one in the same. Not to mention I believe the franchise has used that actual line as advertising before. Have her be a different 00 instead of ruining the movie by pissing off the fans. As far as I remember 006 in Goldeneye is the only other 00 we have actually met on screen, so its not like they can't fill things in with other 00s. Have her be 009 I think it was that Q said the car was originally for in Spectre, unless he said 009 was a guy, I don't remember. There is no reason to give her the 007 number except as a way to tell the established fanbase to piss off. Would you and other "established fans" be as angry if a White guy took up the 007 name? Yes, because the character isn't James Bond. No one has said black people can't be in movies, though if you actually gave a shit about diversity you would want their to be an Asian lead as they are pissed off about always being left out, all I have said is established major characters should stay the same race and gender as they were originally created, regardless of what the original race and gender is. --- Now Playing: "The Hunt for the Two Missing Nintendo 64 Games" An expansion came out, but I'm still a third of the way through! <cite>Gamerguymass posted [p:924686245] in 007 is pla... [t:77863045]...</cite> <quote><cite>Solar_Crimson posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@Gamerguymass posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryven posted...</cite> <quote>As a hardcore, and lifelong Bond fan, I might get flak for saying this, but: I'm totally fine with this. If they're not changing James Bond the character, and simply giving the 00 to another person, i'm totally fine with it. They're leaving Bond alone and the universe continues? I'm good with it.</quote> Except James Bond is 007. After 50+ years they are literally one in the same. Not to mention I believe the franchise has used that actual line as advertising before. Have her be a different 00 instead of ruining the movie by pissing off the fans. As far as I remember 006 in Goldeneye is the only other 00 we have actually met on screen, so its not like they can't fill things in with other 00s. Have her be 009 I think it was that Q said the car was originally for in Spectre, unless he said 009 was a guy, I don't remember. There is no reason to give her the 007 number except as a way to tell the established fanbase to piss off.</quote> Would you and other "established fans" be as angry if a White guy took up the 007 name?</quote> Yes, because the character isn't James Bond. No one has said black people can't be in movies, though if you actually gave a shit about diversity you would want their to be an Asian lead as they are pissed off about always being left out, all I have said is established major characters should stay the same race and gender as they were originally created, regardless of what the original race and gender is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 07/14/19 6:21:08 PM #119:	We wouldn't want anyone else to be 007. We don't want it to change. We just want to watch movies about James Bond MI6 agent with the codename 007 that has good action, scenic locations, cool spy stuff, good looking ladies, gadgets, and quips. Why is the fact that fans would be annoyed or angry over a drastic change is so baffling to people? I've said it before, I get what they're doing for this one movie and I'm ok with that. Most of us are talking about the hypothetical that the series could continue on without James Bond. It might just be a long shot and it's worry over nothing, but there's plenty of reasons why some of us believe that they would do that. --- https://imgur.com/hslUvRN When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:924686326] in 007 is pla... [t:77863045]...</cite> <quote>We wouldn't want anyone else to be 007. We don't want it to change. We just want to watch movies about James Bond MI6 agent with the codename 007 that has good action, scenic locations, cool spy stuff, good looking ladies, gadgets, and quips. Why is the fact that fans would be annoyed or angry over a drastic change is so baffling to people? I've said it before, I get what they're doing for this one movie and I'm ok with that. Most of us are talking about the hypothetical that the series could continue on without James Bond. It might just be a long shot and it's worry over nothing, but there's plenty of reasons why some of us believe that they would do that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crepes 07/14/19 6:22:50 PM #120:	Southernfatman posted... We wouldn't want anyone else to be 007. We don't want it to change. We just want to watch movies about James Bond MI6 agent with the codename 007 that has good action, scenic locations, cool spy stuff, good looking ladies, gadgets, and quips. Why is the fact that fans would be annoyed or angry over a drastic change is so baffling to people? I've said it before, I get what they're doing for this one movie and I'm ok with that. Most of us are talking about the hypothetical that the series will continue on without James Bond. It might just be a long shot and it's worry over nothing, but there's plenty of reasons why some of us believe that they would do that. For me the curious thing is why some changes are allowed but not others. The current Bond differs massively to how he was back in the 60s and all those changes get a free pass but the idea of a black Bond is somehow a step too far despite we actually had a lot of people stating Idris Elba would make a great Bond. --- Praxis Makes Perfect The only intelligent tactical response to life's horror is to laugh defiantly at it. ~Soren Kierkegaard <cite>Crepes posted [p:924686396] in 007 is pla... [t:77863045]...</cite> <quote><cite>Southernfatman posted...</cite> <quote>We wouldn't want anyone else to be 007. We don't want it to change. We just want to watch movies about James Bond MI6 agent with the codename 007 that has good action, scenic locations, cool spy stuff, good looking ladies, gadgets, and quips. Why is the fact that fans would be annoyed or angry over a drastic change is so baffling to people? I've said it before, I get what they're doing for this one movie and I'm ok with that. Most of us are talking about the hypothetical that the series will continue on without James Bond. It might just be a long shot and it's worry over nothing, but there's plenty of reasons why some of us believe that they would do that.</quote> For me the curious thing is why some changes are allowed but not others. The current Bond differs massively to how he was back in the 60s and all those changes get a free pass but the idea of a black Bond is somehow a step too far despite we actually had a lot of people stating Idris Elba would make a great Bond.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 07/14/19 6:23:51 PM #121:	This movie is still about James Bond though. Someone else taking his codename will be a plot development for his character. James Bond fans by now are more than used to change. This is the longest time the character has had a consistent continuity so a plot like this makes sense. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:924686456] in 007 is pla... [t:77863045]...</cite> <quote>This movie is still about James Bond though. Someone else taking his codename will be a plot development for his character. James Bond fans by now are more than used to change. This is the longest time the character has had a consistent continuity so a plot like this makes sense.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DezDroppedFreak 07/14/19 6:23:53 PM #122:	Cool Thatll be interesting --- I feel like Ratatouille when I'm whipping that cheddar <cite>DezDroppedFreak posted [p:924686458] in 007 is pla... [t:77863045]...</cite> <quote>Cool Thatll be interesting</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phewfus 07/14/19 6:25:10 PM #123:	Solar_Crimson posted... @Gamerguymass posted... Ryven posted... As a hardcore, and lifelong Bond fan, I might get flak for saying this, but: I'm totally fine with this. If they're not changing James Bond the character, and simply giving the 00 to another person, i'm totally fine with it. They're leaving Bond alone and the universe continues? I'm good with it. Except James Bond is 007. After 50+ years they are literally one in the same. Not to mention I believe the franchise has used that actual line as advertising before. Have her be a different 00 instead of ruining the movie by pissing off the fans. As far as I remember 006 in Goldeneye is the only other 00 we have actually met on screen, so its not like they can't fill things in with other 00s. Have her be 009 I think it was that Q said the car was originally for in Spectre, unless he said 009 was a guy, I don't remember. There is no reason to give her the 007 number except as a way to tell the established fanbase to piss off. Would you and other "established fans" be as angry if a White guy took up the 007 name? Yes. Fans hating white characters replacing established white characters is common too. There was plenty of fan outcry after Indiana Jones 4 over Shia lebouf potentially taking over the Indiana Jones series. <cite>Phewfus posted [p:924686501] in 007 is pla... [t:77863045]...</cite> <quote><cite>Solar_Crimson posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@Gamerguymass posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryven posted...</cite> <quote>As a hardcore, and lifelong Bond fan, I might get flak for saying this, but: I'm totally fine with this. If they're not changing James Bond the character, and simply giving the 00 to another person, i'm totally fine with it. They're leaving Bond alone and the universe continues? I'm good with it.</quote> Except James Bond is 007. After 50+ years they are literally one in the same. Not to mention I believe the franchise has used that actual line as advertising before. Have her be a different 00 instead of ruining the movie by pissing off the fans. As far as I remember 006 in Goldeneye is the only other 00 we have actually met on screen, so its not like they can't fill things in with other 00s. Have her be 009 I think it was that Q said the car was originally for in Spectre, unless he said 009 was a guy, I don't remember. There is no reason to give her the 007 number except as a way to tell the established fanbase to piss off.</quote> Would you and other "established fans" be as angry if a White guy took up the 007 name?</quote> Yes. Fans hating white characters replacing established white characters is common too. There was plenty of fan outcry after Indiana Jones 4 over Shia lebouf potentially taking over the Indiana Jones series.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 07/14/19 6:27:51 PM #124:	Crepes posted... For me the curious thing is why some changes are allowed but not others. The current Bond differs massively to how he was back in the 60s and all those changes get a free pass but the idea of a black Bond is somehow a step too far despite we actually had a lot of people stating Idris Elba would make a great Bond. I can only speak for myself, but I don't care about race at this point. Bond was pretty much the same from the 60's to the early 2000's. He was a little different depending on the actor, but the character and formula were the same mostly. It wasn't until the Daniel Craig reboot series that things changed, and ultimately I'm not a fan of it. I yearn for the old days and the old style of James Bond. I'm not getting where this idea that the series was radically changed a lot is coming from. --- https://imgur.com/hslUvRN When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:924686597] in 007 is pla... [t:77863045]...</cite> <quote><cite>Crepes posted...</cite> <quote>For me the curious thing is why some changes are allowed but not others. The current Bond differs massively to how he was back in the 60s and all those changes get a free pass but the idea of a black Bond is somehow a step too far despite we actually had a lot of people stating Idris Elba would make a great Bond.</quote> I can only speak for myself, but I don't care about race at this point. Bond was pretty much the same from the 60's to the early 2000's. He was a little different depending on the actor, but the character and formula were the same mostly. It wasn't until the Daniel Craig reboot series that things changed, and ultimately I'm not a fan of it. I yearn for the old days and the old style of James Bond. I'm not getting where this idea that the series was radically changed a lot is coming from.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 07/14/19 6:29:17 PM #125:	Crepes posted... For me the curious thing is why some changes are allowed but not others. The current Bond differs massively to how he was back in the 60s and all those changes get a free pass but the idea of a black Bond is somehow a step too far despite we actually had a lot of people stating Idris Elba would make a great Bond. Do you actually not get the difference between tiny changes over 25 movies evolving a character such that he's different after 55 years and a massive shift that completely replaces the character as the lead? And what makes you assume that those changes got a "free pass". You're acting like fans have been in complete agreement over every change made over the last 55 years and that there weren't complaints made back then, too. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:924686648] in 007 is pla... [t:77863045]...</cite> <quote><cite>Crepes posted...</cite> <quote>For me the curious thing is why some changes are allowed but not others. The current Bond differs massively to how he was back in the 60s and all those changes get a free pass but the idea of a black Bond is somehow a step too far despite we actually had a lot of people stating Idris Elba would make a great Bond.</quote> Do you actually not get the difference between tiny changes over 25 movies evolving a character such that he's different after 55 years and a massive shift that completely replaces the character as the lead? And what makes you assume that those changes got a "free pass". You're acting like fans have been in complete agreement over every change made over the last 55 years and that there weren't complaints made back then, too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gamerguymass 07/14/19 6:29:58 PM #126:	Phewfus posted... Solar_Crimson posted... @Gamerguymass posted... Ryven posted... As a hardcore, and lifelong Bond fan, I might get flak for saying this, but: I'm totally fine with this. If they're not changing James Bond the character, and simply giving the 00 to another person, i'm totally fine with it. They're leaving Bond alone and the universe continues? I'm good with it. Except James Bond is 007. After 50+ years they are literally one in the same. Not to mention I believe the franchise has used that actual line as advertising before. Have her be a different 00 instead of ruining the movie by pissing off the fans. As far as I remember 006 in Goldeneye is the only other 00 we have actually met on screen, so its not like they can't fill things in with other 00s. Have her be 009 I think it was that Q said the car was originally for in Spectre, unless he said 009 was a guy, I don't remember. There is no reason to give her the 007 number except as a way to tell the established fanbase to piss off. Would you and other "established fans" be as angry if a White guy took up the 007 name? Yes. Fans hating white characters replacing established white characters is common too. There was plenty of fan outcry after Indiana Jones 4 over Shia lebouf potentially taking over the Indiana Jones series. That would have at least made sense though since he was Indy's son and it's not like he would have changed his name to Indiana. Of course then Shia Lebouf went completely batshit crazy apparently, so its not like it would habe worked out. That and people tended to hate the plot of the movie so it didn't do that great. Though I think it was kind of cool since the Crystal Skulls are a real thing and we still have no idea how the fuck they were made. Aliens is as good an explanation as any. --- Now Playing: "The Hunt for the Two Missing Nintendo 64 Games" An expansion came out, but I'm still a third of the way through! <cite>Gamerguymass posted [p:924686671] in 007 is pla... [t:77863045]...</cite> <quote><cite>Phewfus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Solar_Crimson posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@Gamerguymass posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryven posted...</cite> <quote>As a hardcore, and lifelong Bond fan, I might get flak for saying this, but: I'm totally fine with this. If they're not changing James Bond the character, and simply giving the 00 to another person, i'm totally fine with it. They're leaving Bond alone and the universe continues? I'm good with it.</quote> Except James Bond is 007. After 50+ years they are literally one in the same. Not to mention I believe the franchise has used that actual line as advertising before. Have her be a different 00 instead of ruining the movie by pissing off the fans. As far as I remember 006 in Goldeneye is the only other 00 we have actually met on screen, so its not like they can't fill things in with other 00s. Have her be 009 I think it was that Q said the car was originally for in Spectre, unless he said 009 was a guy, I don't remember. There is no reason to give her the 007 number except as a way to tell the established fanbase to piss off.</quote> Would you and other "established fans" be as angry if a White guy took up the 007 name?</quote> Yes. Fans hating white characters replacing established white characters is common too. There was plenty of fan outcry after Indiana Jones 4 over Shia lebouf potentially taking over the Indiana Jones series.</quote> That would have at least made sense though since he was Indy's son and it's not like he would have changed his name to Indiana. Of course then Shia Lebouf went completely batshit crazy apparently, so its not like it would habe worked out. That and people tended to hate the plot of the movie so it didn't do that great. Though I think it was kind of cool since the Crystal Skulls are a real thing and we still have no idea how the fuck they were made. Aliens is as good an explanation as any.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 07/14/19 6:31:22 PM #127:	Southernfatman posted... Crepes posted... For me the curious thing is why some changes are allowed but not others. The current Bond differs massively to how he was back in the 60s and all those changes get a free pass but the idea of a black Bond is somehow a step too far despite we actually had a lot of people stating Idris Elba would make a great Bond. I can only speak for myself, but I don't care about race at this point. Bond was pretty much the same from the 60's to the early 2000's. He was a little different depending on the actor, but the character and formula were the same mostly. It wasn't until the Daniel Craig reboot series that things changed, and ultimately I'm not a fan of it. I yearn for the old days and the old style of James Bond. I'm not getting where this idea that the series was radically changed a lot is coming from. C'mon man. You can't pretend that From Russia With Love and Moonraker are similar. James Bond has always been a series that follows trends of what is popular. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:924686722] in 007 is pla... [t:77863045]...</cite> <quote><cite>Southernfatman posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Crepes posted...</cite> <quote>For me the curious thing is why some changes are allowed but not others. The current Bond differs massively to how he was back in the 60s and all those changes get a free pass but the idea of a black Bond is somehow a step too far despite we actually had a lot of people stating Idris Elba would make a great Bond.</quote> I can only speak for myself, but I don't care about race at this point. Bond was pretty much the same from the 60's to the early 2000's. He was a little different depending on the actor, but the character and formula were the same mostly. It wasn't until the Daniel Craig reboot series that things changed, and ultimately I'm not a fan of it. I yearn for the old days and the old style of James Bond. I'm not getting where this idea that the series was radically changed a lot is coming from.</quote> C'mon man. You can't pretend that From Russia With Love and Moonraker are similar. James Bond has always been a series that follows trends of what is popular.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 07/14/19 6:36:34 PM #128:	Gamerguymass posted... Yes, because the character isn't James Bond. And neither is this new character. She is 007, not James Bond. Plus, there would definitely not be as much outrage if it were a White guy instead. There might be some people angry, but for the most part, it'd be business as usual. Gamerguymass posted... No one has said black people can't be in movies, Some people certainly act like Black people can be leads in films that they care about, though, with all the complains about "pandering" and whatnot. They prefer them to be in films that they don't have to pay attention to. though if you actually gave a shit about diversity you would want their to be an Asian lead as they are pissed off about always being left out Crazy Rich Asians, The Sun is Also a Star, A Dog's Journey, and the upcoming Mulan film are all recent films that I know of with Asians as leads or in significant roles. --- Be wary of boarding the hype train, lest you end up on the ruse cruise... - nanobuilder (r/nintendo) http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:924686919] in 007 is pla... [t:77863045]...</cite> <quote><cite>Gamerguymass posted...</cite> <quote>Yes, because the character isn't James Bond.</quote> And neither is this new character. She is 007, not James Bond. Plus, there would definitely not be as much outrage if it were a White guy instead. There might be some people angry, but for the most part, it'd be business as usual. <cite>Gamerguymass posted...</cite> <quote>No one has said black people can't be in movies,</quote> Some people certainly act like Black people can be leads in films that they care about, though, with all the complains about "pandering" and whatnot. They prefer them to be in films that they don't have to pay attention to. <quote>though if you actually gave a shit about diversity you would want their to be an Asian lead as they are pissed off about always being left out</quote> Crazy Rich Asians, The Sun is Also a Star, A Dog's Journey, and the upcoming Mulan film are all recent films that I know of with Asians as leads or in significant roles.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 07/14/19 6:38:04 PM #129:	Funny how not making Bond black or a woman is still pissing people off so much. Gamerguymass posted... Except James Bond is 007. After 50+ years they are literally one in the same. And what happens when a 00 Agent gets killed or retires? They get replaced. The Craig movies have an actual continuity and have established James Bond as a person's name. A person who can stop being a 00 Agent --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:924686978] in 007 is pla... [t:77863045]...</cite> <quote>Funny how not making Bond black or a woman is still pissing people off so much. <cite>Gamerguymass posted...</cite> <quote>Except James Bond is 007. After 50+ years they are literally one in the same. </quote> And what happens when a 00 Agent gets killed or retires? They get replaced. The Craig movies have an actual continuity and have established James Bond as a person's name. A person who can stop being a 00 Agent</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
stoltenberg11 07/14/19 6:40:40 PM #130:	Funkydog posted... We really need to start casting more black people in traditional white roles, even if just for the tears. It changes very little but they start throwing a temper tantrum any toddler would be embarrassed by. yeah lets purposely piss people off this is exactly the dream mlk had! --- You're such a boring characterless entity. Try getting laid once in a while and maybe you'll have friends and find out what a "joke" is. - derrate <cite>stoltenberg11 posted [p:924687074] in 007 is pla... [t:77863045]...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote>We really need to start casting more black people in traditional white roles, even if just for the tears. It changes very little but they start throwing a temper tantrum any toddler would be embarrassed by.</quote> yeah lets purposely piss people off this is exactly the dream mlk had!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bass_X0 07/14/19 6:42:47 PM #131:	Isnt James Bond always 007 though? Its not like James Bond can suddenly become 006 or 008 on a whim. --- "Well, it's not a bad game. It's made by Capcom, so how could it?" ~ AVGN <cite>Bass_X0 posted [p:924687153] in 007 is pla... [t:77863045]...</cite> <quote>Isnt James Bond always 007 though? Its not like James Bond can suddenly become 006 or 008 on a whim.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 07/14/19 6:43:46 PM #132:	Darmik posted... C'mon man. You can't pretend that From Russia With Love and Moonraker are similar. James Bond has always been a series that follows trends of what is popular. The series got more over the top at times, but it's not like one could ever be confused that it isn't a James Bond movie or something. The very next film after it was another more serious and down to Earth movie more in the style of FRWL. That's how the series was. That's not as huge of a change as potentially changing the main character's gender. --- https://imgur.com/hslUvRN When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:924687191] in 007 is pla... [t:77863045]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote> C'mon man. You can't pretend that From Russia With Love and Moonraker are similar. James Bond has always been a series that follows trends of what is popular.</quote> The series got more over the top at times, but it's not like one could ever be confused that it isn't a James Bond movie or something. The very next film after it was another more serious and down to Earth movie more in the style of FRWL. That's how the series was. That's not as huge of a change as potentially changing the main character's gender.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 07/14/19 6:44:55 PM #133:	Bass_X0 posted... Isnt James Bond always 007 though? Its not like James Bond can suddenly become 006 or 008 on a whim. he retired. so that number went to someone else. kinda like how a sports player leaves and someone else takes their number --- There are enough attention whores on CE as it is. <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:924687234] in 007 is pla... [t:77863045]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bass_X0 posted...</cite> <quote>Isnt James Bond always 007 though? Its not like James Bond can suddenly become 006 or 008 on a whim.</quote> he retired. so that number went to someone else. kinda like how a sports player leaves and someone else takes their number</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 07/14/19 6:45:51 PM #134:	Bass_X0 posted... Isnt James Bond always 007 though? Its not like James Bond can suddenly become 006 or 008 on a whim. Yes, but for this exercise in accusing everyone of being racist we need to ignore the last 55 years and 25 movies and pretend that even though the main character of the new bond film using the 007 mantle won't be James Bond, that said change is completely different than changing bond himself. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:924687274] in 007 is pla... [t:77863045]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bass_X0 posted...</cite> <quote>Isnt James Bond always 007 though? Its not like James Bond can suddenly become 006 or 008 on a whim.</quote> Yes, but for this exercise in accusing everyone of being racist we need to ignore the last 55 years and 25 movies and pretend that even though the main character of the new bond film using the 007 mantle won't be James Bond, that said change is completely different than changing bond himself.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BruceWayneJr 07/14/19 6:46:45 PM #135:	Bishop9800 posted... DeadBankerDream posted... Crepes posted... DeadBankerDream posted... Can this actress act? She was terrible in Mrs Marvel It's not like any of the previous Bond actors could act. All of them except Moore (and maybe Lazenby) are good actors, so that's a bad take. I might be the only one, but Timothy Dalton was a bad choice for Bond. You're not the only one, but you are wrong. --- Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. <cite>BruceWayneJr posted [p:924687307] in 007 is pla... [t:77863045]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DeadBankerDream posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Crepes posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DeadBankerDream posted...</cite> <quote>Can this actress act? She was terrible in Mrs Marvel</quote> It's not like any of the previous Bond actors could act.</quote> All of them except Moore (and maybe Lazenby) are good actors, so that's a bad take.</quote> I might be the only one, but Timothy Dalton was a bad choice for Bond.</quote> You're not the only one, but you are wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 07/14/19 6:48:12 PM #136:	BruceWayneJr posted... Bishop9800 posted... DeadBankerDream posted... Crepes posted... DeadBankerDream posted... Can this actress act? She was terrible in Mrs Marvel It's not like any of the previous Bond actors could act. All of them except Moore (and maybe Lazenby) are good actors, so that's a bad take. I might be the only one, but Timothy Dalton was a bad choice for Bond. You're not the only one, but you are wrong. Dalton is the best to me. To me all the Bond actors are good in their own way. --- https://imgur.com/hslUvRN When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:924687376] in 007 is pla... [t:77863045]...</cite> <quote><cite>BruceWayneJr posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DeadBankerDream posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Crepes posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DeadBankerDream posted...</cite> <quote>Can this actress act? She was terrible in Mrs Marvel</quote> It's not like any of the previous Bond actors could act.</quote> All of them except Moore (and maybe Lazenby) are good actors, so that's a bad take.</quote> I might be the only one, but Timothy Dalton was a bad choice for Bond.</quote> You're not the only one, but you are wrong.</quote> Dalton is the best to me. To me all the Bond actors are good in their own way.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 07/14/19 6:50:36 PM #137:	s0nicfan posted... Bass_X0 posted... Isnt James Bond always 007 though? Its not like James Bond can suddenly become 006 or 008 on a whim. Yes, but for this exercise in accusing everyone of being racist we need to ignore the last 55 years and 25 movies and pretend that even though the main character of the new bond film using the 007 mantle won't be James Bond, that said change is completely different than changing bond himself. "Don't change established characters" "Ok we'll leave the characters as is and just make new characters that take up their mantle" "No, make new characters over there in new pandering franchises I can ignore. Now continue pandering to me please." --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:924687481] in 007 is pla... [t:77863045]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bass_X0 posted...</cite> <quote>Isnt James Bond always 007 though? Its not like James Bond can suddenly become 006 or 008 on a whim.</quote> Yes, but for this exercise in accusing everyone of being racist we need to ignore the last 55 years and 25 movies and pretend that even though the main character of the new bond film using the 007 mantle won't be James Bond, that said change is completely different than changing bond himself.</quote> "Don't change established characters" "Ok we'll leave the characters as is and just make new characters that take up their mantle" "No, make new characters over there in new pandering franchises I can ignore. Now continue pandering to me please."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 07/14/19 6:51:47 PM #138:	It's almost comical how some of you are crying about this still even after it's been explained 1000 times. --- Clean Butt Crew <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:924687530] in 007 is pla... [t:77863045]...</cite> <quote>It's almost comical how some of you are crying about this still even after it's been explained 1000 times.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 07/14/19 6:52:10 PM #139:	Smashingpmkns posted... It's almost comical how some of you are crying about this still even after it's been explained 1000 times. this x1000 --- There are enough attention whores on CE as it is. <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:924687545] in 007 is pla... [t:77863045]...</cite> <quote><cite>Smashingpmkns posted...</cite> <quote>It's almost comical how some of you are crying about this still even after it's been explained 1000 times.</quote> this x1000</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 07/14/19 6:53:47 PM #140:	hockeybub89 posted... "Don't change established characters" "Ok we'll leave the characters as is and just make new characters that take up their mantle" "No, make new characters over there in new pandering franchises I can ignore. Now continue pandering to me please." Why does there need to be new characters to take up an old characters mantel anyway though? Yes I know about the context of the next film, but my posts in the topic are about the hypothetical of them continuing the series without James Bond which is a possibility. --- https://imgur.com/hslUvRN When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:924687615] in 007 is pla... [t:77863045]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>"Don't change established characters" "Ok we'll leave the characters as is and just make new characters that take up their mantle" "No, make new characters over there in new pandering franchises I can ignore. Now continue pandering to me please."</quote> Why does there need to be new characters to take up an old characters mantel anyway though? Yes I know about the context of the next film, but my posts in the topic are about the hypothetical of them continuing the series without James Bond which is a possibility.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 07/14/19 6:57:50 PM #141:	Southernfatman posted... hockeybub89 posted... "Don't change established characters" "Ok we'll leave the characters as is and just make new characters that take up their mantle" "No, make new characters over there in new pandering franchises I can ignore. Now continue pandering to me please." Why does there need to be new characters to take up an old characters mantel anyway though? Yes I know about the context of the next film, but my posts in the topic are about the hypothetical of them continuing the series without James Bond which is a possibility. So they can continue a continuity without rebooting it. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:924687773] in 007 is pla... [t:77863045]...</cite> <quote><cite>Southernfatman posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>"Don't change established characters" "Ok we'll leave the characters as is and just make new characters that take up their mantle" "No, make new characters over there in new pandering franchises I can ignore. Now continue pandering to me please."</quote> Why does there need to be new characters to take up an old characters mantel anyway though? Yes I know about the context of the next film, but my posts in the topic are about the hypothetical of them continuing the series without James Bond which is a possibility.</quote> So they can continue a continuity without rebooting it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 07/14/19 6:58:13 PM #142:	Southernfatman posted... hockeybub89 posted... "Don't change established characters" "Ok we'll leave the characters as is and just make new characters that take up their mantle" "No, make new characters over there in new pandering franchises I can ignore. Now continue pandering to me please." Why does there need to be new characters to take up an old characters mantel anyway though? Generally there's only nine 00's at any given time depending on the story teller. And James Bond technically isnt the first 007. --- Clean Butt Crew <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:924687789] in 007 is pla... [t:77863045]...</cite> <quote><cite>Southernfatman posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote> "Don't change established characters" "Ok we'll leave the characters as is and just make new characters that take up their mantle" "No, make new characters over there in new pandering franchises I can ignore. Now continue pandering to me please."</quote> Why does there need to be new characters to take up an old characters mantel anyway though?</quote> Generally there's only nine 00's at any given time depending on the story teller. And James Bond technically isnt the first 007.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 07/14/19 7:01:42 PM #143:	Southernfatman posted... Why does there need to be new characters to take up an old characters mantel anyway though? Why not? Are we seriously going to gatekeep creating original characters? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:924687916] in 007 is pla... [t:77863045]...</cite> <quote><cite>Southernfatman posted...</cite> <quote>Why does there need to be new characters to take up an old characters mantel anyway though?</quote> Why not? Are we seriously going to gatekeep creating original characters?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 07/14/19 7:03:47 PM #144:	Darmik posted... So they can continue a continuity without rebooting it. Eh, they rebooted it before. Might as well again. I didn't like the reboot in the first place, but that's just me. If anything, they should just end the Craig series, wait a few years, then reboot the series again and hopefully make it more like the originals. I'd even be open to a series set in the 60's. Maybe a miniseries on HBO or something would be cool. Smashingpmkns posted... Generally there's only nine 00's at any given time depending on the story teller. And James Bond technically isnt the first 007. Of course, but the James Bond series should be about James Bond. It might be just a one movie thing with this new 007 though, but who knows. hockeybub89 posted... Why not? Are we seriously going to gatekeep creating original characters? It worked for almost 60 years. If you want to do original stuff, be totally original and not piggyback off an established series that already has fans. --- https://imgur.com/hslUvRN When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:924687990] in 007 is pla... [t:77863045]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>So they can continue a continuity without rebooting it.</quote> Eh, they rebooted it before. Might as well again. I didn't like the reboot in the first place, but that's just me. If anything, they should just end the Craig series, wait a few years, then reboot the series again and hopefully make it more like the originals. I'd even be open to a series set in the 60's. Maybe a miniseries on HBO or something would be cool. <cite>Smashingpmkns posted...</cite> <quote>Generally there's only nine 00's at any given time depending on the story teller. And James Bond technically isnt the first 007.</quote> Of course, but the James Bond series should be about James Bond. It might be just a one movie thing with this new 007 though, but who knows. <cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>Why not? Are we seriously going to gatekeep creating original characters?</quote> It worked for almost 60 years. If you want to do original stuff, be totally original and not piggyback off an established series that already has fans.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 07/14/19 7:04:54 PM #145:	Southernfatman posted... Eh, they rebooted it before. Might as well again. I didn't like the reboot in the first place, but that's just me. If anything, they should just end the Craig series, wait a few years, then reboot the series again and hopefully make it more like the originals. I'd even be open to a series set in the 60's. Maybe a miniseries on HBO or something would be cool. They might. Or maybe they'll play around with this plot and have Bond takeover as M. There's plenty of stuff they can do. No point getting upset over it. They'll reboot it when they're ready. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:924688033] in 007 is pla... [t:77863045]...</cite> <quote><cite>Southernfatman posted...</cite> <quote>Eh, they rebooted it before. Might as well again. I didn't like the reboot in the first place, but that's just me. If anything, they should just end the Craig series, wait a few years, then reboot the series again and hopefully make it more like the originals. I'd even be open to a series set in the 60's. Maybe a miniseries on HBO or something would be cool. </quote> They might. Or maybe they'll play around with this plot and have Bond takeover as M. There's plenty of stuff they can do. No point getting upset over it. They'll reboot it when they're ready.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 07/14/19 7:05:32 PM #146:	Southernfatman posted... Of course, but the James Bond series should be about James Bond. It might be just a one movie thing with this new 007 though, but who knows James Bond is still the main character in the movie dude. --- Clean Butt Crew <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:924688061] in 007 is pla... [t:77863045]...</cite> <quote><cite>Southernfatman posted...</cite> <quote>Of course, but the James Bond series should be about James Bond. It might be just a one movie thing with this new 007 though, but who knows</quote> James Bond is still the main character in the movie dude.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
stoltenberg11 07/14/19 7:05:33 PM #147:	hockeybub89 posted... s0nicfan posted... Bass_X0 posted... Isnt James Bond always 007 though? Its not like James Bond can suddenly become 006 or 008 on a whim. Yes, but for this exercise in accusing everyone of being racist we need to ignore the last 55 years and 25 movies and pretend that even though the main character of the new bond film using the 007 mantle won't be James Bond, that said change is completely different than changing bond himself. "Don't change established characters" "Ok we'll leave the characters as is and just make new characters that take up their mantle" "No, make new characters over there in new pandering franchises I can ignore. Now continue pandering to me please." Person wants more of thing they like, more news at 11. --- You're such a boring characterless entity. Try getting laid once in a while and maybe you'll have friends and find out what a "joke" is. - derrate <cite>stoltenberg11 posted [p:924688062] in 007 is pla... [t:77863045]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bass_X0 posted...</cite> <quote>Isnt James Bond always 007 though? Its not like James Bond can suddenly become 006 or 008 on a whim.</quote> Yes, but for this exercise in accusing everyone of being racist we need to ignore the last 55 years and 25 movies and pretend that even though the main character of the new bond film using the 007 mantle won't be James Bond, that said change is completely different than changing bond himself.</quote> "Don't change established characters" "Ok we'll leave the characters as is and just make new characters that take up their mantle" "No, make new characters over there in new pandering franchises I can ignore. Now continue pandering to me please."</quote> Person wants more of thing they like, more news at 11.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 07/14/19 7:08:05 PM #148:	Darmik posted... They might. Or maybe they'll play around with this plot and have Bond takeover as M. There's plenty of stuff they can do. No point getting upset over it. They'll reboot it when they're ready. I'm not really upset over it because Spectre already ruined the reboot story for me anyway, but I still want to like the series. I hope rather for a course correction than going in a very different direction with it. Smashingpmkns posted... James Bond is still the main character in the movie dude. I know that. As I've said before several times, I get the context of it in the upcoming movie. I'm speaking of if they potentially continue with the series with a different 007. --- https://imgur.com/hslUvRN When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:924688171] in 007 is pla... [t:77863045]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>They might. Or maybe they'll play around with this plot and have Bond takeover as M. There's plenty of stuff they can do. No point getting upset over it. They'll reboot it when they're ready.</quote> I'm not really upset over it because Spectre already ruined the reboot story for me anyway, but I still want to like the series. I hope rather for a course correction than going in a very different direction with it. <cite>Smashingpmkns posted...</cite> <quote>James Bond is still the main character in the movie dude.</quote> I know that. As I've said before several times, I get the context of it in the upcoming movie. I'm speaking of if they potentially continue with the series with a different 007.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ryven 07/14/19 7:10:11 PM #149:	Southernfatman posted... Darmik posted... So they can continue a continuity without rebooting it. Eh, they rebooted it before. Might as well again. I didn't like the reboot in the first place, but that's just me. If anything, they should just end the Craig series, wait a few years, then reboot the series again and hopefully make it more like the originals. I'd even be open to a series set in the 60's. Ive said this before, even though i enjoy the Craig series, its a little too modern age technology heavy. Placing it back in the 60's with quirky Q gadgets and more oldschool detective work kind of stuff would be awesome. --- 'We're not gonna make it, are we? People i mean.' 'It's in your nature to destroy yourselves.' <cite>Ryven posted [p:924688251] in 007 is pla... [t:77863045]...</cite> <quote><cite>Southernfatman posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>So they can continue a continuity without rebooting it.</quote> Eh, they rebooted it before. Might as well again. I didn't like the reboot in the first place, but that's just me. If anything, they should just end the Craig series, wait a few years, then reboot the series again and hopefully make it more like the originals. I'd even be open to a series set in the 60's.</quote> Ive said this before, even though i enjoy the Craig series, its a little too modern age technology heavy. Placing it back in the 60's with quirky Q gadgets and more oldschool detective work kind of stuff would be awesome.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 07/14/19 7:15:07 PM #150:	Southernfatman posted... It worked for almost 60 years. If you want to do original stuff, be totally original and not piggyback off an established series that already has fans. This is why Dick Grayson is the only Robin. 60 years is exactly why things should be shaken up. Bond has been all over the map in quality and has beaten tropes to death. Let him breathe. I'm really bad at being a fanboy because I love seeing freshness in things I like. It may not always work, but at least it was an attempt. And this idea isn't stupidly ridiculous on paper. I'll give it a chance. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:924688427] in 007 is pla... [t:77863045]...</cite> <quote><cite>Southernfatman posted...</cite> <quote>It worked for almost 60 years. If you want to do original stuff, be totally original and not piggyback off an established series that already has fans.</quote> This is why Dick Grayson is the only Robin. 60 years is exactly why things should be shaken up. Bond has been all over the map in quality and has beaten tropes to death. Let him breathe. I'm really bad at being a fanboy because I love seeing freshness in things I like. It may not always work, but at least it was an attempt. And this idea isn't stupidly ridiculous on paper. I'll give it a chance.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 07/14/19 7:15:21 PM #151:	What if they rebooted the series into two different timelines. One is Bond in the 60's and the other is modern 007 with a new agent and Bond is now M. The movies could alternate and connect to each other. The current Hollywood trend is interconnected universes after all. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:924688433] in 007 is pla... [t:77863045]...</cite> <quote>What if they rebooted the series into two different timelines. One is Bond in the 60's and the other is modern 007 with a new agent and Bond is now M. The movies could alternate and connect to each other. The current Hollywood trend is interconnected universes after all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
evil_zombie11 07/14/19 7:17:41 PM #152:	TheDrivingForce posted... If they tackle this the same way they did Batgirl on CW, it'll be dead on arrival. lmao can't wait for this to crash and burn. --- Well, what do you expect? I'm an evil zombie... https://imgur.com/Iqo9r37 <--- Me, I'm this guy. <cite>evil_zombie11 posted [p:924688524] in 007 is pla... [t:77863045]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheDrivingForce posted...</cite> <quote>If they tackle this the same way they did Batgirl on CW, it'll be dead on arrival.</quote> lmao can't wait for this to crash and burn.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 07/14/19 7:26:07 PM #153:	Ryven posted... Ive said this before, even though i enjoy the Craig series, its a little too modern age technology heavy. Placing it back in the 60's with quirky Q gadgets and more oldschool detective work kind of stuff would be awesome. I'd be cool with that. Especially bringing back the more detective side of Bond. hockeybub89 posted... This is why Dick Grayson is the only Robin. 60 years is exactly why things should be shaken up. Bond has been all over the map in quality and has beaten tropes to death. Let him breathe. I'm really bad at being a fanboy because I love seeing freshness in things I like. It may not always work, but at least it was an attempt. And this idea isn't stupidly ridiculous on paper. I'll give it a chance. Guess we'll have to agree to disagree there. I'm not against shaking things up necessarily, but that kind of change is extreme to me. Who knows though what will happen? It's not like I think the series will be dead or anything and I'm not like real mad over it or anything, but I'd just rather they get back to basics. --- https://imgur.com/hslUvRN When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:924688856] in 007 is pla... [t:77863045]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryven posted...</cite> <quote>Ive said this before, even though i enjoy the Craig series, its a little too modern age technology heavy. Placing it back in the 60's with quirky Q gadgets and more oldschool detective work kind of stuff would be awesome.</quote> I'd be cool with that. Especially bringing back the more detective side of Bond. <cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>This is why Dick Grayson is the only Robin. 60 years is exactly why things should be shaken up. Bond has been all over the map in quality and has beaten tropes to death. Let him breathe. I'm really bad at being a fanboy because I love seeing freshness in things I like. It may not always work, but at least it was an attempt. And this idea isn't stupidly ridiculous on paper. I'll give it a chance.</quote> Guess we'll have to agree to disagree there. I'm not against shaking things up necessarily, but that kind of change is extreme to me. Who knows though what will happen? It's not like I think the series will be dead or anything and I'm not like real mad over it or anything, but I'd just rather they get back to basics.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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