Current Events > An Incel tracked down and brutally murdered a 17-year old girl from Discord

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Gafemage
07/15/19 6:31:38 PM
#154:


Gamerguymass posted...
The majority of them are probably just trolling though. They know doing shit like that will piss people off and enrage them so they do it to watch people flip out and then laugh about it. That's pretty much what the internet is these days. I mean just look at all the trolls on this site that say stupid shit just to get a rise out of people.

Or maybe their brains have just been rotted irreversibly by incel circlejerks & they're taking advantage of the site's anonymity to vent their fucked up worldviews. Don't be so oblivious about this stuff, dude.
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Darmik
07/15/19 6:34:08 PM
#156:


If the only thing you can say in response to a person posting a murdered victim on a message board who then has someone posting pictures of themselves masturbating to those pictures and then those pictures are sent to the victim's family is "It's not illegal" I think you're just presenting an argument that the laws need to catch up to what's happening on the internet.

Jerry_Hellyeah posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
Nice to know CE still isnt above victim blaming

I dont think its necessarily victim blaming to take something away from a tragedy other than "murderers r bad".


A man butchered a young woman. Trying to dig through her internet history in some bizarre attempt to justify it is victim blaming.

She was a 17 year old girl who at most was mean on the internet. If that justifies murder and declaring someone a bad person we've got a very guilty generation of people.

The stuff isn't even related to the guy who murdered her.
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Darmik
07/15/19 6:36:56 PM
#158:


Is this the part where we pretend that a man didn't murder his wife on 4chan and left her body for his kids to find?

Or when a guy gunned down a rising singer on stage because he was obsessed with her?

But I guess we should give the guy who cut off a young girls head the benefit of the doubt for...reasons?
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viewmaster_pi
07/15/19 6:37:11 PM
#159:


Darmik posted...
The stuff isn't even related to the guy who murdered her.

Some people might call that karma.
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Neo1661
07/15/19 6:38:41 PM
#160:


Err it telling me it's blocked and says my iP address...Maybe because it's US only site?

Error code 16
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Darmik
07/15/19 6:38:41 PM
#161:


viewmaster_pi posted...
Darmik posted...
The stuff isn't even related to the guy who murdered her.

Some people might call that karma.


With standards like that I guess every murder is 'karma'
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Lorthremar
07/15/19 6:40:15 PM
#163:


Gamerguymass posted...
Patty_Fleur posted...
Lebronwon posted...
The 4chan comments are so fucked up. One guy jerked off to the pics of the dead body and posted proof he deeded and said along the lines she deserved it and he got enjoyment out of it. Fuck man it is scary people over there think the lady deserved to get killed.


WTF? How these people not arrested?


Because it's not illegal. Sure it's fucked up, but he/they didn't do anything wrong according to the law.

The majority of them are probably just trolling though. They know doing shit like that will piss people off and enrage them so they do it to watch people flip out and then laugh about it. That's pretty much what the internet is these days. I mean just look at all the trolls on this site that say stupid shit just to get a rise out of people.


ironic that you have the audacity to call other people trolls when you yourself post some pretty questionable comments relating to women and minorities daily
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Oatcakes
07/15/19 6:40:44 PM
#164:


hitmanfan4eva posted...
Apparently, she has a history of manipulating men.

Take advantage of the wrong guy and u get results like this


If that's your logical conclusion to "being manipulated" then I fear for the women in your life.
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Kensaimage
07/15/19 6:41:58 PM
#165:


Tmaster148 posted...
Kensaimage posted...
This board is oddly obsessed with whether or not the murderer was an incel or not.

Does that really matter? Psychos come in all varieties. Literally. Being an incel has zero relevancy to it, and most here are zoning in on it like its some kind of critical element to the tragedy.

Guy was a psycho. Thats it. Takes a fucked up and unhinged mind to even consider doing what he did. Those issues stem WAAAAY deeper than being an incel


So why do you care if people call him an incel then, if you say it doesn't matter?


I dont care. Call him what you want. Im saying its a weird detail to cling to
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Darmik
07/15/19 6:43:02 PM
#166:


Conflict posted...
Darmik posted...
She was a 17 year old girl who at most was mean on the internet


I dunno if blackmailing constitutes as 'just being mean on the internet'

Still doesn't justify murder in any shape or form though.


Is there actual proof of that?

No matter how much you read on the internet you are not getting a full picture of this person. You don't know them. The internet and social media is not a reliable perspective on anyone.
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Esrac
07/15/19 6:57:29 PM
#167:


Darmik posted...
If the only thing you can say in response to a person posting a murdered victim on a message board who then has someone posting pictures of themselves masturbating to those pictures and then those pictures are sent to the victim's family is "It's not illegal" I think you're just presenting an argument that the laws need to catch up to what's happening on the internet.



What do you want us to say? Someone asked how they're not arrested yet and the answer is "because what they did isn't illegal".

Its fucked up, but it's not against the law to be a fucked up, bad person.

Whether or not what they did should be illegal is debatable.
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Seto-Kaiba
07/15/19 7:03:14 PM
#168:


Death penalty. No trial.

If anybody out there is even 1% as crazy as this waste of human flesh, seek help immediately.
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Gamerguymass
07/15/19 7:03:42 PM
#169:


Lorthremar posted...
Gamerguymass posted...
Patty_Fleur posted...
Lebronwon posted...
The 4chan comments are so fucked up. One guy jerked off to the pics of the dead body and posted proof he deeded and said along the lines she deserved it and he got enjoyment out of it. Fuck man it is scary people over there think the lady deserved to get killed.


WTF? How these people not arrested?


Because it's not illegal. Sure it's fucked up, but he/they didn't do anything wrong according to the law.

The majority of them are probably just trolling though. They know doing shit like that will piss people off and enrage them so they do it to watch people flip out and then laugh about it. That's pretty much what the internet is these days. I mean just look at all the trolls on this site that say stupid shit just to get a rise out of people.


ironic that you have the audacity to call other people trolls when you yourself post some pretty questionable comments relating to women and minorities daily


Yes it's really a questionable comment about minorities to say I think major characters should stay the race they were created as. That goes the same for making black or Asian characters white as well. Anyone that is capable of any type of critial thought and knows how to read would have been able to understand that. Sadly those traits are severely lacking these days, especially on this site.
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Rika_Furude
07/15/19 7:04:34 PM
#170:


Thats disgusting. Life in prison without parole
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MalachiteXWater
07/15/19 7:07:20 PM
#171:


Welp I saw the pics and read some threads from various sites and I have some regrets like seriously some people have no chill or empathy.
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0xDEFECADE
07/15/19 7:08:13 PM
#172:


Conflict posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
Nice to know CE still isnt above victim blaming


I mean she didn't deserve to get murdered but is it really victim blaming to acknowledge she did some shitty things?

it's more the way they phrase it imo
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Goats
07/15/19 7:10:04 PM
#173:


I've updated my tags for this topic azelf
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The Great Muta 22
07/15/19 7:14:28 PM
#174:


Gamerguymass posted...
Lorthremar posted...
Gamerguymass posted...
Patty_Fleur posted...
Lebronwon posted...
The 4chan comments are so fucked up. One guy jerked off to the pics of the dead body and posted proof he deeded and said along the lines she deserved it and he got enjoyment out of it. Fuck man it is scary people over there think the lady deserved to get killed.


WTF? How these people not arrested?


Because it's not illegal. Sure it's fucked up, but he/they didn't do anything wrong according to the law.

The majority of them are probably just trolling though. They know doing shit like that will piss people off and enrage them so they do it to watch people flip out and then laugh about it. That's pretty much what the internet is these days. I mean just look at all the trolls on this site that say stupid shit just to get a rise out of people.


ironic that you have the audacity to call other people trolls when you yourself post some pretty questionable comments relating to women and minorities daily


Yes it's really a questionable comment about minorities to say I think major characters should stay the race they were created as. That goes the same for making black or Asian characters white as well. Anyone that is capable of any type of critial thought and knows how to read would have been able to understand that. Sadly those traits are severely lacking these days, especially on this site.


Considering you downplaying sending a cum tribute on a murder victim with her throat slit to the victims mother as "just trolling", I'd say others lacking critical thought should be the least of your concerns.
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Superlinkbro
07/15/19 7:14:33 PM
#175:


Oh I saw the blurred picture of her head and it freaked me the fuck out. What a fucking piece of shit for doing that to her. He gets a special place in hell.
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mercurydude
07/15/19 7:17:30 PM
#176:


Hairistotle posted...
Solid Sonic posted...
The use of incel as a synonym for violent sexual frustration makes me guilty for never having sausaged a female entry point in my post-30 years of existence. Like there is a dangerous psychological deterioration that comes with remaining a virgin for too long.

bro this is bullshit. you do it to yourself

Yep, and there was even a time in history where men were lauded, not shamed, for being virgins, especially in the early days of Christianity. There wasn't an abundance of incel types back then. Guys didn't even have time to sit around, stewing in their own "poor pitiful me" juices, because there was always work to be done. Monks and nuns, both Buddhist and Christian, have also been able to handle being virgins without "psychological deterioration." And even if you're just a regular dude who has trouble in love for whatever reason, you can always use your hand or workout or find some way to release all of that energy that doesn't involve blaming all of your problems on women. When I do long distance hikes, I rarely get sexually frustrated at all because I'm always putting that energy elsewhere.

It's funny, gay guys have historically had a far more difficult time finding partners for obvious reasons... it's easier now with gay bars and the internet, but even back in the old days, they didn't use sexual frustration as an excuse for killing sprees like incels do. 99% of the problem with incel mentality is their entitlement.

And getting back to what you said about how they do it to themselves... Elliot Rodger was gorgeous and could have easily been a male model... the problem women had with him was on the inside. He was a white supremacist, among other toxic traits, so at the end of the day, it was 100% his fault that women didn't want to be with him.
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gamestunner
07/15/19 7:18:10 PM
#177:


Disgusting.
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rodu_jr
07/15/19 7:18:59 PM
#178:


AwesomeToTheMAX posted...
If you're a virgin you're a virgin

If you're someone who harbors bitter hatred towards women you're an incel

Not complicated

unfortunately some people are going to lump the two together
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Darmik
07/15/19 7:24:02 PM
#179:


In 2016 around 1,000 men murdered their wives, girlfriends and ex-girlfriends in the US alone.

I'm sick of internet losers trying to claim that men are violent because they aren't having sex. It's a misogynistic mindset that tries to shift the blame to women when they're the victims yet again.
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A_A_Battery
07/15/19 7:27:56 PM
#180:


Honestly the people trolling this deserve the same fate as the killer imo. Throw em all in a spike pit and dont look back.
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Reverend_Wilson
07/15/19 7:35:41 PM
#181:


Seto-Kaiba posted...
Death penalty. No trial..


no
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Manocheese
07/15/19 7:45:18 PM
#182:


berlyman101 posted...
However, Utica made me think of steamed hams. All right, that's my piece.

It makes me think of pizza. I went there once and had some of the best pizza I've ever tasted.
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Unknown380
07/15/19 7:49:41 PM
#183:


Fucking incels, we got a right wing problem in this country, we need to start putting these incels and neo nazis on the terror watchlist once we get a Democrat back in power.
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Roxborough4Ever
07/15/19 7:51:10 PM
#184:


on twitter they said it was somebody she knew irl but w/e......as long as we get to talk shit on incels
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Prismsblade
07/15/19 7:52:31 PM
#185:


TetsuoS2 posted...
soulunison2 posted...
Man e-thots are exploiting a market, its
Not their fault these thirsty and incel boys are falling for it


Yes, lots of disgusting people exist, doesn't really mean it's alright to do it.

Correct, the twisted thing though is that society generally not only allows such behavior but rewards it. Ie, Twitch thots taking advantage of sad thritsy man for countless views and massive profits.

But hypocritically also prostitution is morally wrong. So dont even think of throwing money at such woman even though it's a objectively better use for it.
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Kastrada
07/15/19 7:55:07 PM
#186:


Gamerguymass posted...
Anyone that is capable of any type of critial thought and knows how to read would have been able to understand that. Sadly those traits are severely lacking these days, especially on this site.


So were Vipey and I just too stupid to understand your post about how you think a 12 year old child can consent to sex with an adult?

Was there any deeper meaning behind that or what?
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Enix Belmont
07/15/19 7:55:12 PM
#187:


Death Penalty is clearly the wrong choice in this case IMO, he tried to kill himself via throat stabbing? Right? Obviously the best punishment is life in prison
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RescueBC
07/15/19 8:01:23 PM
#188:


hyperpsycho posted...
Shablagoo posted...
Jesus Christ. We literally need Jesus Christ to come back, like right now or very soon.

He's coming soon. We're in the Great Tribulation.


Jesus is about to come. And boy, will there be a mess to clean up afterwards..
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Banana_Cyanide
07/15/19 8:03:50 PM
#189:


RescueBC posted...
hyperpsycho posted...
Shablagoo posted...
Jesus Christ. We literally need Jesus Christ to come back, like right now or very soon.

He's coming soon. We're in the Great Tribulation.


Jesus is about to come. And boy, will there be a mess to clean up afterwards..

PHRASING!
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Akagami_Shanks
07/15/19 8:05:54 PM
#190:


Roxborough4Ever posted...
on twitter they said it was somebody she knew irl but w/e......as long as we get to talk shit on incels

people will take any chance they get to push an agenda while feigning interest in the problem they're using to bait people.

See: this thread.

I can guarantee you that at least half of the posters in here don't actually care what happens, so long as they can throw out "look what incels did" upon seeing the buzz word in the topic title.
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Banana_Cyanide
07/15/19 8:08:33 PM
#191:


Akagami_Shanks posted...
Roxborough4Ever posted...
on twitter they said it was somebody she knew irl but w/e......as long as we get to talk shit on incels

people will take any chance they get to push an agenda while feigning interest in the problem they're using to bait people.

See: this thread.

I can guarantee you that at least half of the posters in here don't actually care what happens, so long as they can throw out "look what incels did" upon seeing the buzz word in the topic title.

That was something I was going to point out earlier but figured there was no point.
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Number090684
07/15/19 8:21:39 PM
#192:


viewmaster_pi posted...
Patty_Fleur posted...
Not allowed die until he dies.

lol


lol Think they meant "Not allowed to die until his body succumbs to the heinous torture."
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Number090684
07/15/19 8:28:44 PM
#194:


Esrac posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
PoorAndLonely posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
And that goes for a good half the posters ITT who seemingly can't wait to shine attention to how she may have acted like your typical 17 year old girl and strung guys along

I don't think the average girl does what she's been accused of.


It may be a bit monetized more than the average, but do you honestly believe girls or hell, people as a whole haven't led others on or strung them along for benefits before, or that it doesn't happen with a lot of teenagers? Bull fucking shit.


I mean, I really don't think sending men nudes and then blackmailing them because you're underage is typical 17 year old girl behavior.


Yeah, definitely not normal. The victim had serious morality problems, and possibly some mental ones too considering she did this for years and at such a young age. But what happened to her is not justified of course.
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PoorAndLonely
07/15/19 8:30:11 PM
#195:


So to sum it up:

1. Murderer knew the victim in real life.
2. Murderer did not identify as incel/have any ties to the incel community.
3. Murderer acted over over a personal grudge rather than to make a political statement.

The topic is literally misinformation. How are people inside of it getting modded while the topic itself remains?
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berlyman101
07/15/19 8:32:01 PM
#196:


ECW_Originals12 posted...
2 birds 1 stone. thanks for taking out the trash.


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Broseph_Stalin
07/15/19 8:36:24 PM
#197:


PoorAndLonely posted...
The topic is literally misinformation. How are people inside of it getting modded while the topic itself remains?

they got rid of the no misinformation rule since none of the conservatives could post at all
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PoorAndLonely
07/15/19 8:37:53 PM
#198:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
PoorAndLonely posted...
The topic is literally misinformation. How are people inside of it getting modded while the topic itself remains?

they got rid of the no misinformation rule since none of the conservatives could post at all

Nothing of value would be lost though.
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Lyrica
07/15/19 8:39:50 PM
#199:


Oh man, I saw the photos Really sad how fucked up some people are.
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CarrieChan
07/15/19 8:52:07 PM
#200:


Lotta people taking the TC's bait.
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Gamerguymass
07/15/19 9:08:02 PM
#201:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
Gamerguymass posted...
Lorthremar posted...
Gamerguymass posted...
Patty_Fleur posted...
Lebronwon posted...
The 4chan comments are so fucked up. One guy jerked off to the pics of the dead body and posted proof he deeded and said along the lines she deserved it and he got enjoyment out of it. Fuck man it is scary people over there think the lady deserved to get killed.


WTF? How these people not arrested?


Because it's not illegal. Sure it's fucked up, but he/they didn't do anything wrong according to the law.

The majority of them are probably just trolling though. They know doing shit like that will piss people off and enrage them so they do it to watch people flip out and then laugh about it. That's pretty much what the internet is these days. I mean just look at all the trolls on this site that say stupid shit just to get a rise out of people.


ironic that you have the audacity to call other people trolls when you yourself post some pretty questionable comments relating to women and minorities daily


Yes it's really a questionable comment about minorities to say I think major characters should stay the race they were created as. That goes the same for making black or Asian characters white as well. Anyone that is capable of any type of critial thought and knows how to read would have been able to understand that. Sadly those traits are severely lacking these days, especially on this site.


Considering you downplaying sending a cum tribute on a murder victim with her throat slit to the victims mother as "just trolling", I'd say others lacking critical thought should be the least of your concerns.


I didn't downplay that, I said the majority of them are trolling, as in the people on 4chan. I also said that is what the internet is these days, people will troll others over just about anything. Especially since everyone gets so easily offended or pissed off these days while online. I never said anything about that action specifically.
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Benify
07/15/19 9:49:43 PM
#202:


4Chan is so gross. I'm glad those people don't get out often. Literally hazards to society.
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Frosted_Midna
07/15/19 9:58:04 PM
#203:


This was gross to read. x_x
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ReignFury
07/15/19 10:01:47 PM
#204:


Lyrica posted...
So what happened to the guy who killed her? Do the police know exactly who it is? Is he in custody? Why isn't this on the news?


He tried to kill himself and cut his neck pretty good
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LinkFanatic
07/15/19 10:20:26 PM
#205:


shit's fucked up
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