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Giant_Aspirin 07/25/19 4:24:35 PM #101:	god damn fuck this new quoting system. if i cant include more than 7 quotes in a fucking post then the fucking quote button should strip it down. fuck. She posted them on a specific app to get a date. Not for nerds on GFAQs to question what's between her legs. i think complaining about that is akin to complaining about having your picture taken in public. once you go out in public any expectation of privacy is gone. similarly, once you post a photo on the internet it's free game for all to see; there is no expectation of privacy or control over the content. --- Playing: Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night, Vermintide 2 I suppose it will all make sense when we grow up <cite>Giant_Aspirin posted [p:925176930] in I think th... [t:77884360]...</cite> <quote>god damn fuck this new quoting system. if i cant include more than 7 quotes in a fucking post then the fucking quote button should strip it down. fuck. She posted them on a specific app to get a date. Not for nerds on GFAQs to question what's between her legs. i think complaining about that is akin to complaining about having your picture taken in public. once you go out in public any expectation of privacy is gone. similarly, once you post a photo on the internet it's free game for all to see; there is no expectation of privacy or control over the content.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Holy_Pumpkin 07/25/19 4:30:34 PM #102:	QueenCarly posted... Conflict posted... Movie theaters must be offering you jobs constantly with how talented of a projectionist you are< I'm sure your thought that was real witty in your own head. You lashed out at someone for expressing that people have varying interests in dating and some people may want to settle and start a family without adopting, assuming he was "reducing a woman's worth" to their ability to do that These types of stupid, gross overreactions actively cause harm to LGBT causes Tbh it came out sounding way dumber than I intended it too. I'm never funny when I try to be. Sure, I might have overreacted. I get people may want to have children of their own, and that's fine. But the fucking biological essentialism that surrounds these discussions has got to go. It is the real root of my anger. Trans women aren't 'real women' bullshit needs to stop. It leads to trans people's deaths. I think the problem is you jumped the gun and started drawing an accusatory tone before anyone posted anything resembling actual transphobic dialogue. There's the simple fact that people are allowed to have preferences when it comes to their dating life and dating preferences don't have to necessarily reflect one's general views on the actual character or worth of any individual or group. I'm not homophobic for not wanting to date men, because I'm not sexually nor romantically attracted to men and am not interested in having a partnership with one. Without even having to provide more context or background, I think it's fine to just stop there and say "OK" rather than be intrusively accusatory or passive aggressive. In the case of a trans-woman, if my preferences were such that I would prefer to date a biological woman as opposed to a trans-woman, regardless of the reason, wouldn't it be in the interest of both parties to attempt to openly disclose that information sooner than later as opposed to it resulting in a waste of each other's time? I agree that trans people shouldn't feel obligated to have to wear their identity on their sleeve and it should not be mandatory on a dating app profile, but I think it should be reasonable and inoffensive to have a discussion about it between two people interested in dating each other. --- "romance or action does not matter, hurting your friends will make you sadder..." <cite>Holy_Pumpkin posted [p:925177166] in I think th... [t:77884360]...</cite> <quote>QueenCarly posted...</cite> <quote><quote>Conflict posted... Movie theaters must be offering you jobs constantly with how talented of a projectionist you are< I'm sure your thought that was real witty in your own head. You lashed out at someone for expressing that people have varying interests in dating and some people may want to settle and start a family without adopting, assuming he was "reducing a woman's worth" to their ability to do that These types of stupid, gross overreactions actively cause harm to LGBT causes</quote> Tbh it came out sounding way dumber than I intended it too. I'm never funny when I try to be. Sure, I might have overreacted. I get people may want to have children of their own, and that's fine. But the fucking biological essentialism that surrounds these discussions has got to go. It is the real root of my anger. Trans women aren't 'real women' bullshit needs to stop. It leads to trans people's deaths.</quote> I think the problem is you jumped the gun and started drawing an accusatory tone before anyone posted anything resembling actual transphobic dialogue. There's the simple fact that people are allowed to have preferences when it comes to their dating life and dating preferences don't have to necessarily reflect one's general views on the actual character or worth of any individual or group. I'm not homophobic for not wanting to date men, because I'm not sexually nor romantically attracted to men and am not interested in having a partnership with one. Without even having to provide more context or background, I think it's fine to just stop there and say "OK" rather than be intrusively accusatory or passive aggressive. In the case of a trans-woman, if my preferences were such that I would prefer to date a biological woman as opposed to a trans-woman, regardless of the reason, wouldn't it be in the interest of both parties to attempt to openly disclose that information sooner than later as opposed to it resulting in a waste of each other's time? I agree that trans people shouldn't feel obligated to have to wear their identity on their sleeve and it should not be mandatory on a dating app profile, but I think it should be reasonable and inoffensive to have a discussion about it between two people interested in dating each other.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zodd3224 07/25/19 4:37:34 PM #104:	Conflict posted... Giant_Aspirin posted... god damn fuck this new quoting system. if i cant include more than 7 quotes in a fucking post then the fucking quote button should strip it down. fuck. She posted them on a specific app to get a date. Not for nerds on GFAQs to question what's between her legs. i think complaining about that is akin to complaining about having your picture taken in public. once you go out in public any expectation of privacy is gone. similarly, once you post a photo on the internet it's free game for all to see; there is no expectation of privacy or control over the content. I mean you could say that, but you could use that to justify stalking random people on facebook to just post their pictures here and I wouldn't agree with that There's a middle ground and it can be argued that posting pics of a transgender person for CE to gauge how "manly" she looks is pretty shitty Amazing that people cant see this. But it is CE after all. --- https://imgur.com/qAas5O2 <cite>Zodd3224 posted [p:925177429] in I think th... [t:77884360]...</cite> <quote>Conflict posted...</cite> <quote>Giant_Aspirin posted...</cite> <quote>god damn fuck this new quoting system. if i cant include more than 7 quotes in a fucking post then the fucking quote button should strip it down. fuck. She posted them on a specific app to get a date. Not for nerds on GFAQs to question what's between her legs. i think complaining about that is akin to complaining about having your picture taken in public. once you go out in public any expectation of privacy is gone. similarly, once you post a photo on the internet it's free game for all to see; there is no expectation of privacy or control over the content.</quote> I mean you could say that, but you could use that to justify stalking random people on facebook to just post their pictures here and I wouldn't agree with that There's a middle ground and it can be argued that posting pics of a transgender person for CE to gauge how "manly" she looks is pretty shitty</quote> Amazing that people cant see this. But it is CE after all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Holy_Pumpkin 07/25/19 4:37:46 PM #105:	On the separate subject of whether or not posting her photos on GameFAQs is okay or not... she posted her pics online yes, but for a specific purpose on a specific platform. Should she be able to take any legal action against anyone for sharing her pics anywhere else? Of course not. But that doesn't change the fact it's "not cool" and is rude/impolite in the same way that snapping photos of random people in public without asking their permission wouldn't be cool but simply rude and impolite. I'm just saying, if hypothetically TC and the girl in context started dating and she found out he shared her pics on a forum without asking, you couldn't really blame the girl for being uncomfortable or even upset about it. --- "romance or action does not matter, hurting your friends will make you sadder..." <cite>Holy_Pumpkin posted [p:925177442] in I think th... [t:77884360]...</cite> <quote>On the separate subject of whether or not posting her photos on GameFAQs is okay or not... she posted her pics online yes, but for a specific purpose on a specific platform. Should she be able to take any legal action against anyone for sharing her pics anywhere else? Of course not. But that doesn't change the fact it's "not cool" and is rude/impolite in the same way that snapping photos of random people in public without asking their permission wouldn't be cool but simply rude and impolite. I'm just saying, if hypothetically TC and the girl in context started dating and she found out he shared her pics on a forum without asking, you couldn't really blame the girl for being uncomfortable or even upset about it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giant_Aspirin 07/25/19 4:44:58 PM #106:	Conflict posted... I mean you could say that, but you could use that to justify stalking random people on facebook to just post their pictures here and I wouldn't agree with that in the case of FB there is some privacy behind what you post. if content is expected to be available only to 'friends', for example, and someone takes that and shares it publicly then i'd agree that someone's privacy was violated in that case. i should probably rephrase what i originally said to be more like 'content publicly posted on the internet has no expectation of privacy or control over the content'. Conflict posted... There's a middle ground and it can be argued that posting pics of a transgender person for CE to gauge how "manly" she looks is pretty shitty i would probably agree with that. i was more just reacting to "posting someone's tinder pictures on another website is shitty" and i wasn't considering the context, so that's my bad. Zodd3224 posted... Amazing that people cant see this. But it is CE after all. that doesn't facilitate healthy discussion at all. instead of just dismissing what i said as "lol nerds" explain your point of view. --- Playing: Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night, Vermintide 2 I suppose it will all make sense when we grow up <cite>Giant_Aspirin posted [p:925177745] in I think th... [t:77884360]...</cite> <quote>Conflict posted...</cite> <quote>I mean you could say that, but you could use that to justify stalking random people on facebook to just post their pictures here and I wouldn't agree with that</quote> in the case of FB there is some privacy behind what you post. if content is expected to be available only to 'friends', for example, and someone takes that and shares it publicly then i'd agree that someone's privacy was violated in that case. i should probably rephrase what i originally said to be more like 'content publicly posted on the internet has no expectation of privacy or control over the content'. Conflict posted...</cite> <quote>There's a middle ground and it can be argued that posting pics of a transgender person for CE to gauge how "manly" she looks is pretty shitty</quote> i would probably agree with that. i was more just reacting to "posting someone's tinder pictures on another website is shitty" and i wasn't considering the context, so that's my bad. Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote>Amazing that people cant see this. But it is CE after all.</quote> that doesn't facilitate healthy discussion at all. instead of just dismissing what i said as "lol nerds" explain your point of view.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zodd3224 07/25/19 4:48:02 PM #107:	Giant_Aspirin posted... Conflict posted... I mean you could say that, but you could use that to justify stalking random people on facebook to just post their pictures here and I wouldn't agree with that in the case of FB there is some privacy behind what you post. if content is expected to be available only to 'friends', for example, and someone takes that and shares it publicly then i'd agree that someone's privacy was violated in that case. i should probably rephrase what i originally said to be more like 'content publicly posted on the internet has no expectation of privacy or control over the content'. Conflict posted... There's a middle ground and it can be argued that posting pics of a transgender person for CE to gauge how "manly" she looks is pretty shitty i would probably agree with that. i was more just reacting to "posting someone's tinder pictures on another website is shitty" and i wasn't considering the context, so that's my bad. Zodd3224 posted... Amazing that people cant see this. But it is CE after all. that doesn't facilitate healthy discussion at all. instead of just dismissing what i said as "lol nerds" explain your point of view. If I post a profile pic on LinkedIn or some shit I would prefer it not be posted somewhere else by someone for people to talk shit about my appearance. Sure it could happen and that's a risk of posting anything on the internet. But the person who does that is an asshole. That's my point or view. --- https://imgur.com/qAas5O2 <cite>Zodd3224 posted [p:925177865] in I think th... [t:77884360]...</cite> <quote>Giant_Aspirin posted...</cite> <quote>Conflict posted...</cite> <quote>I mean you could say that, but you could use that to justify stalking random people on facebook to just post their pictures here and I wouldn't agree with that</quote> in the case of FB there is some privacy behind what you post. if content is expected to be available only to 'friends', for example, and someone takes that and shares it publicly then i'd agree that someone's privacy was violated in that case. i should probably rephrase what i originally said to be more like 'content publicly posted on the internet has no expectation of privacy or control over the content'. Conflict posted...</cite> <quote>There's a middle ground and it can be argued that posting pics of a transgender person for CE to gauge how "manly" she looks is pretty shitty</quote> i would probably agree with that. i was more just reacting to "posting someone's tinder pictures on another website is shitty" and i wasn't considering the context, so that's my bad. Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote>Amazing that people cant see this. But it is CE after all.</quote> that doesn't facilitate healthy discussion at all. instead of just dismissing what i said as "lol nerds" explain your point of view.</quote> If I post a profile pic on LinkedIn or some shit I would prefer it not be posted somewhere else by someone for people to talk shit about my appearance. Sure it could happen and that's a risk of posting anything on the internet. But the person who does that is an asshole. That's my point or view.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giant_Aspirin 07/25/19 4:50:48 PM #108:	Zodd3224 posted... If I post a profile pic on LinkedIn or some shit I would prefer it not be posted somewhere else by someone for people to talk shit about my appearance. Sure it could happen and that's a risk of posting anything on the internet. But the person who does that is an asshole. That's my point or view. thank you. is it the act or the intent that bothers you? like, if i found a girl on a dating site and wanted my friend's opinion, would there be an inherent problem with me linking him to her picture? i completely agree that publicly making fun of anyone is a dick move. posting someone's picture for the sole purpose of 'talking shit' is shitty. --- Playing: Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night, Vermintide 2 I suppose it will all make sense when we grow up <cite>Giant_Aspirin posted [p:925177948] in I think th... [t:77884360]...</cite> <quote>Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote>If I post a profile pic on LinkedIn or some shit I would prefer it not be posted somewhere else by someone for people to talk shit about my appearance. Sure it could happen and that's a risk of posting anything on the internet. But the person who does that is an asshole. That's my point or view.</quote> thank you. is it the act or the intent that bothers you? like, if i found a girl on a dating site and wanted my friend's opinion, would there be an inherent problem with me linking him to her picture? i completely agree that publicly making fun of anyone is a dick move. posting someone's picture for the sole purpose of 'talking shit' is shitty.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fossil 07/25/19 4:51:39 PM #109:	Zodd3224 posted... If I post a profile pic on LinkedIn or some shit I would prefer it not be posted somewhere else by someone for people to talk shit about my appearance. Sure it could happen and that's a risk of posting anything on the internet. But the person who does that is an asshole. That's my point or view. What does it matter when there's little to no chance you'll ever be aware anyone is talking shit about you... <cite>Fossil posted [p:925177990] in I think th... [t:77884360]...</cite> <quote>Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote>If I post a profile pic on LinkedIn or some shit I would prefer it not be posted somewhere else by someone for people to talk shit about my appearance. Sure it could happen and that's a risk of posting anything on the internet. But the person who does that is an asshole. That's my point or view.</quote> What does it matter when there's little to no chance you'll ever be aware anyone is talking shit about you...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zodd3224 07/25/19 4:53:11 PM #111:	Giant_Aspirin posted... Zodd3224 posted... If I post a profile pic on LinkedIn or some shit I would prefer it not be posted somewhere else by someone for people to talk shit about my appearance. Sure it could happen and that's a risk of posting anything on the internet. But the person who does that is an asshole. That's my point or view. thank you. is it the act or the intent that bothers you? like, if i found a girl on a dating site and wanted my friend's opinion, would there be an inherent problem with me linking him to her picture? i completely agree that publicly making fun of anyone is a dick move. posting someone's picture for the sole purpose of 'talking shit' is shitty. I wouldn't say asking your friend's opinion about a potential date is wrong. But the intent of this thread was pretty clear. --- https://imgur.com/qAas5O2 <cite>Zodd3224 posted [p:925178054] in I think th... [t:77884360]...</cite> <quote>Giant_Aspirin posted...</cite> <quote>Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote>If I post a profile pic on LinkedIn or some shit I would prefer it not be posted somewhere else by someone for people to talk shit about my appearance. Sure it could happen and that's a risk of posting anything on the internet. But the person who does that is an asshole. That's my point or view.</quote> thank you. is it the act or the intent that bothers you? like, if i found a girl on a dating site and wanted my friend's opinion, would there be an inherent problem with me linking him to her picture? i completely agree that publicly making fun of anyone is a dick move. posting someone's picture for the sole purpose of 'talking shit' is shitty.</quote> I wouldn't say asking your friend's opinion about a potential date is wrong. But the intent of this thread was pretty clear.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Comfy_Pillow 07/25/19 4:55:35 PM #112:	If you hooked up and she put a fleshlight in your ass and fucked that would it be gay sex or straight sex? <cite>Comfy_Pillow posted [p:925178155] in I think th... [t:77884360]...</cite> <quote>If you hooked up and she put a fleshlight in your ass and fucked that would it be gay sex or straight sex?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Deadpool_18 07/25/19 4:56:43 PM #113:	0AbsoluteZero0 posted... Its hard to tell, so if she is transgendered she isnt unpassable. However the phone placement right over the Adams apple in all three pics is just too suspicious, so Id bet shes trans. Thisss --- "I'm so embarrassed. I wish everyone else was dead." <cite>Deadpool_18 posted [p:925178194] in I think th... [t:77884360]...</cite> <quote>0AbsoluteZero0 posted...</cite> <quote>Its hard to tell, so if she is transgendered she isnt unpassable. However the phone placement right over the Adams apple in all three pics is just too suspicious, so Id bet shes trans.</quote> Thisss</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pogo_Marimo 07/25/19 5:22:14 PM #114:	Comfy_Pillow posted... If you hooked up and she put a fleshlight in your ass and fucked that would it be gay sex or straight sex? https://imgur.com/oG8syJX --- It feels like they're pretending. It's like they just want blowjobs and they know these songs will get them http://www.last.fm/user/Pogo92 <cite>Pogo_Marimo posted [p:925179321] in I think th... [t:77884360]...</cite> <quote>Comfy_Pillow posted...</cite> <quote>If you hooked up and she put a fleshlight in your ass and fucked that would it be gay sex or straight sex?</quote> https://imgur.com/oG8syJX</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Turbam 07/25/19 5:29:16 PM #115:	Comfy_Pillow posted... If you hooked up and she put a fleshlight in your ass and fucked that would it be gay sex or straight sex? --- ~snip (V)_(;,;)_(V) snip~ I'm just one man! Whoa! Well, I'm a one man band! https://imgur.com/p9Xvjvs <cite>Turbam posted [p:925179627] in I think th... [t:77884360]...</cite> <quote>Comfy_Pillow posted...</cite> <quote>If you hooked up and she put a fleshlight in your ass and fucked that would it be gay sex or straight sex?</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheCurseX2 07/25/19 5:52:17 PM #116:	Lmfao @ "The face is somewhat androgynous." --- As a Level 37 Sage, I expect to be treated with proper respect and acknowledged for my dedication to the GameFAQs Message Board Community as a whole. Thank you. <cite>TheCurseX2 posted [p:925180669] in I think th... [t:77884360]...</cite> <quote>Lmfao @ "The face is somewhat androgynous."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Freeney 07/25/19 5:58:14 PM #117:	QueenCarly posted... Conflict posted... Movie theaters must be offering you jobs constantly with how talented of a projectionist you are< I'm sure your thought that was real witty in your own head. You lashed out at someone for expressing that people have varying interests in dating and some people may want to settle and start a family without adopting, assuming he was "reducing a woman's worth" to their ability to do that These types of stupid, gross overreactions actively cause harm to LGBT causes Tbh it came out sounding way dumber than I intended it too. I'm never funny when I try to be. Sure, I might have overreacted. I get people may want to have children of their own, and that's fine. But the fucking biological essentialism that surrounds these discussions has got to go. It is the real root of my anger. Trans women aren't 'real women' bullshit needs to stop. It leads to trans people's deaths. They arent biologically real women though, I dont get why you find that so offensive. --- 2016/17 MYPH Football Pick 'Em Champion! Colts \| Raptors \| Blue Jays \| Maple Leafs \| TFC \| MCFC <cite>Freeney posted [p:925180956] in I think th... [t:77884360]...</cite> <quote>QueenCarly posted...</cite> <quote><quote>Conflict posted... Movie theaters must be offering you jobs constantly with how talented of a projectionist you are< I'm sure your thought that was real witty in your own head. You lashed out at someone for expressing that people have varying interests in dating and some people may want to settle and start a family without adopting, assuming he was "reducing a woman's worth" to their ability to do that These types of stupid, gross overreactions actively cause harm to LGBT causes</quote> Tbh it came out sounding way dumber than I intended it too. I'm never funny when I try to be. Sure, I might have overreacted. I get people may want to have children of their own, and that's fine. But the fucking biological essentialism that surrounds these discussions has got to go. It is the real root of my anger. Trans women aren't 'real women' bullshit needs to stop. It leads to trans people's deaths.</quote> They arent biologically real women though, I dont get why you find that so offensive.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 07/25/19 6:05:20 PM #118:	Freeney posted... They arent biologically real women though, I dont get why you find that so offensive. Careful, some of the mods are aggressive pro-trans activists and will warn you for saying things like this. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:925181279] in I think th... [t:77884360]...</cite> <quote>Freeney posted...</cite> <quote> They arent biologically real women though, I dont get why you find that so offensive.</quote> Careful, some of the mods are aggressive pro-trans activists and will warn you for saying things like this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PleaseClap 07/25/19 6:09:34 PM #119:	Gobstoppers12 posted... the mods are aggressive pro-trans activists oh heavens to betsy, the horror --- please https://imgur.com/AmWcJjM <cite>PleaseClap posted [p:925181460] in I think th... [t:77884360]...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted...</cite> <quote> the mods are aggressive pro-trans activists</quote> oh heavens to betsy, the horror</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 07/25/19 6:12:22 PM #120:	PleaseClap posted... Gobstoppers12 posted... the mods are aggressive pro-trans activists oh heavens to betsy, the horror Even if it weren't moddable, I wouldn't waste time trying to explain to you why it's a bad thing. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:925181561] in I think th... [t:77884360]...</cite> <quote>PleaseClap posted...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted...</cite> <quote> the mods are aggressive pro-trans activists</quote> oh heavens to betsy, the horror</quote> Even if it weren't moddable, I wouldn't waste time trying to explain to you why it's a bad thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
0xDEFECADE 07/25/19 6:12:56 PM #121:	lol --- 1101 1110 1111 1110 1100 1010 1101 1110 one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>0xDEFECADE posted [p:925181596] in I think th... [t:77884360]...</cite> <quote>lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PleaseClap 07/25/19 6:14:04 PM #122:	Gobstoppers12 posted... PleaseClap posted... Gobstoppers12 posted... the mods are aggressive pro-trans activists oh heavens to betsy, the horror Even if it weren't moddable, I wouldn't waste time trying to explain to you why it's a bad thing. I would love to see you try and explain why being pro-trans is a bad thing --- please https://imgur.com/AmWcJjM <cite>PleaseClap posted [p:925181647] in I think th... [t:77884360]...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted...</cite> <quote>PleaseClap posted...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted...</cite> <quote> the mods are aggressive pro-trans activists</quote> oh heavens to betsy, the horror</quote> Even if it weren't moddable, I wouldn't waste time trying to explain to you why it's a bad thing.</quote> I would love to see you try and explain why being pro-trans is a bad thing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 07/25/19 6:24:23 PM #123:	PleaseClap posted... Gobstoppers12 posted... PleaseClap posted... Gobstoppers12 posted... the mods are aggressive pro-trans activists oh heavens to betsy, the horror Even if it weren't moddable, I wouldn't waste time trying to explain to you why it's a bad thing. I would love to see you try and explain why being pro-trans is a bad thing I'm not saying that being pro-trans is a bad thing. I'm saying that moderators who deal out moderations based on personally biased political stances are bad moderators. You can't have political or controversial discussions if there's an overlooking body filled with biased individuals who will stifle one side of the argument by force. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:925182107] in I think th... [t:77884360]...</cite> <quote>PleaseClap posted...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted...</cite> <quote>PleaseClap posted...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted...</cite> <quote> the mods are aggressive pro-trans activists</quote> oh heavens to betsy, the horror</quote> Even if it weren't moddable, I wouldn't waste time trying to explain to you why it's a bad thing.</quote> I would love to see you try and explain why being pro-trans is a bad thing</quote> I'm not saying that being pro-trans is a bad thing. I'm saying that moderators who deal out moderations based on personally biased political stances are bad moderators. You can't have political or controversial discussions if there's an overlooking body filled with biased individuals who will stifle one side of the argument by force.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gobstoppers12 07/25/19 6:30:04 PM #125:	Conflict posted... Saying "transgender women aren't real, they're just playing pretend" is a little bit more than just a political stance, don't ya think? I didn't say that, did I? --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:925182382] in I think th... [t:77884360]...</cite> <quote>Conflict posted...</cite> <quote>Saying "transgender women aren't real, they're just playing pretend" is a little bit more than just a political stance, don't ya think?</quote> I didn't say that, did I?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PleaseClap 07/25/19 6:32:58 PM #126:	Hang on, it's important that we consider both sides of the "are trans people real and do they deserve respect" argument. --- please https://imgur.com/AmWcJjM <cite>PleaseClap posted [p:925182515] in I think th... [t:77884360]...</cite> <quote>Hang on, it's important that we consider both sides of the "are trans people real and do they deserve respect" argument.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gobstoppers12 07/25/19 6:40:57 PM #128:	PleaseClap posted... Hang on, it's important that we consider both sides of the "are trans people real and do they deserve respect" argument. They're real people, and they do deserve respect, but there's another side of the argument that addresses how the people whom they deal with deserve respect as well, which often includes: 1.) Being honest and upfront about status (especially when dating) 2.) Accepting that some people prefer not to be ordered around on how to refer to others (wrong pronouns, "deadnames", w/e should never be enough to warrant a hate crime or anything of the sort) 3.) Plenty of people are uncomfortable sharing a bathroom/locker room (or having their sons/daughters do the same) with a person who possesses the genitalia of the opposite sex. 4.) Not everybody wants to wax your scrotum, and it's disrespectful to demand it from somebody who is clearly uncomfortable with the idea, and even more disrespectful to sue over it. Basically it boils down to "respect is a two way street," and there comes a point where "equality" is no longer equality because it's disproportionately benefiting one side over the other. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:925182890] in I think th... [t:77884360]...</cite> <quote>PleaseClap posted...</cite> <quote>Hang on, it's important that we consider both sides of the "are trans people real and do they deserve respect" argument.</quote> They're real people, and they do deserve respect, but there's another side of the argument that addresses how the people whom they deal with deserve respect as well, which often includes: 1.) Being honest and upfront about status (especially when dating) 2.) Accepting that some people prefer not to be ordered around on how to refer to others (wrong pronouns, "deadnames", w/e should never be enough to warrant a hate crime or anything of the sort) 3.) Plenty of people are uncomfortable sharing a bathroom/locker room (or having their sons/daughters do the same) with a person who possesses the genitalia of the opposite sex. 4.) Not everybody wants to wax your scrotum, and it's disrespectful to demand it from somebody who is clearly uncomfortable with the idea, and even more disrespectful to sue over it. Basically it boils down to "respect is a two way street," and there comes a point where "equality" is no longer equality because it's disproportionately benefiting one side over the other.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Freeney 07/25/19 6:45:11 PM #129:	PleaseClap posted... Hang on, it's important that we consider both sides of the "are trans people real and do they deserve respect" argument. They deserve to be treated like anyone else to be honest, I dont have to like them any more or any less I would a non trans person. --- 2016/17 MYPH Football Pick 'Em Champion! Colts \| Raptors \| Blue Jays \| Maple Leafs \| TFC \| MCFC <cite>Freeney posted [p:925183108] in I think th... [t:77884360]...</cite> <quote>PleaseClap posted...</cite> <quote>Hang on, it's important that we consider both sides of the "are trans people real and do they deserve respect" argument.</quote> They deserve to be treated like anyone else to be honest, I dont have to like them any more or any less I would a non trans person.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gobstoppers12 07/25/19 6:52:44 PM #131:	Conflict posted... The first one is simply a common courtesy thing. Most people are going to ask you to do it, not order you, and if you refuse then you're just being a dick This would be true if not for the fact that people have lost their job or been sued over the things I mentioned. Conflict posted... The second one... which are you going to be more uncomfortable with? A FtM person in a men's bathroom that looks completely like a man but still has a vagina (not that you would know since you're not exactly going to be analyzing their genitals) This is where the gray area of "passing" comes into play. It's more a perception thing than anything else--how people perceive you outwardly is how they will expect you to behave. A person who looks much more like a man than a woman should be in the men's room, and a person who looks much more like a woman than a man should be in the women's room, but... And this is the sensitive "but" that nobody ever seems to want to hear, and I've been moderated in the past for saying something simply true like this: A lot of trans people don't look quite as much like their chosen sex as they think they do, and it's often jarring for the people around them when they enter the "wrong" bathroom (by their perception.) It's a complicated situation and I can sympathize with the people who'd rather not have to deal with it. The "third bathroom" idea seems pretty offensive on the surface and it would be very expensive to implement, but it's probably the most acceptable solution to the masses. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:925183465] in I think th... [t:77884360]...</cite> <quote>Conflict posted...</cite> <quote>The first one is simply a common courtesy thing. Most people are going to ask you to do it, not order you, and if you refuse then you're just being a dick</quote> This would be true if not for the fact that people have lost their job or been sued over the things I mentioned. Conflict posted...</cite> <quote>The second one... which are you going to be more uncomfortable with? A FtM person in a men's bathroom that looks completely like a man but still has a vagina (not that you would know since you're not exactly going to be analyzing their genitals)</quote> This is where the gray area of "passing" comes into play. It's more a perception thing than anything else--how people perceive you outwardly is how they will expect you to behave. A person who looks much more like a man than a woman should be in the men's room, and a person who looks much more like a woman than a man should be in the women's room, but... And this is the sensitive "but" that nobody ever seems to want to hear, and I've been moderated in the past for saying something simply true like this: A lot of trans people don't look quite as much like their chosen sex as they think they do, and it's often jarring for the people around them when they enter the "wrong" bathroom (by their perception.) It's a complicated situation and I can sympathize with the people who'd rather not have to deal with it. The "third bathroom" idea seems pretty offensive on the surface and it would be very expensive to implement, but it's probably the most acceptable solution to the masses.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
QueenCarly 07/25/19 6:54:09 PM #132:	Freeney posted... QueenCarly posted... Conflict posted... Movie theaters must be offering you jobs constantly with how talented of a projectionist you are< I'm sure your thought that was real witty in your own head. You lashed out at someone for expressing that people have varying interests in dating and some people may want to settle and start a family without adopting, assuming he was "reducing a woman's worth" to their ability to do that These types of stupid, gross overreactions actively cause harm to LGBT causes Tbh it came out sounding way dumber than I intended it too. I'm never funny when I try to be. Sure, I might have overreacted. I get people may want to have children of their own, and that's fine. But the fucking biological essentialism that surrounds these discussions has got to go. It is the real root of my anger. Trans women aren't 'real women' bullshit needs to stop. It leads to trans people's deaths. They arent biologically real women though, I dont get why you find that so offensive. https://growinguptransgender.com/2018/11/01/biological-sex-is-a-social-construct/ --- https://media.giphy.com/media/26AHNHoZ6XnXX2fhC/giphy.gif <cite>QueenCarly posted [p:925183518] in I think th... [t:77884360]...</cite> <quote>Freeney posted...</cite> <quote>QueenCarly posted...</cite> <quote><quote>Conflict posted... Movie theaters must be offering you jobs constantly with how talented of a projectionist you are< I'm sure your thought that was real witty in your own head. You lashed out at someone for expressing that people have varying interests in dating and some people may want to settle and start a family without adopting, assuming he was "reducing a woman's worth" to their ability to do that These types of stupid, gross overreactions actively cause harm to LGBT causes</quote> Tbh it came out sounding way dumber than I intended it too. I'm never funny when I try to be. Sure, I might have overreacted. I get people may want to have children of their own, and that's fine. But the fucking biological essentialism that surrounds these discussions has got to go. It is the real root of my anger. Trans women aren't 'real women' bullshit needs to stop. It leads to trans people's deaths.</quote> They arent biologically real women though, I dont get why you find that so offensive.</quote> https://growinguptransgender.com/2018/11/01/biological-sex-is-a-social-construct/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 07/25/19 6:57:40 PM #133:	QueenCarly posted... https://growinguptransgender.com/2018/11/01/biological-sex-is-a-social-construct/ That's totally a reputable and unbiased source that gives nothing but factual and reliable information, I'm sure. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:925183686] in I think th... [t:77884360]...</cite> <quote>QueenCarly posted...</cite> <quote> https://growinguptransgender.com/2018/11/01/biological-sex-is-a-social-construct/</quote> That's totally a reputable and unbiased source that gives nothing but factual and reliable information, I'm sure.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
QueenCarly 07/25/19 6:58:09 PM #134:	Passing is just enforcing cisnormative beauty standards on trans people. Fucked up and harmful. No one should have to "pass" to be treated with respect. --- https://media.giphy.com/media/26AHNHoZ6XnXX2fhC/giphy.gif <cite>QueenCarly posted [p:925183701] in I think th... [t:77884360]...</cite> <quote>Passing is just enforcing cisnormative beauty standards on trans people. Fucked up and harmful. No one should have to "pass" to be treated with respect.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
QueenCarly 07/25/19 6:58:36 PM #135:	Gobstoppers12 posted... QueenCarly posted... https://growinguptransgender.com/2018/11/01/biological-sex-is-a-social-construct/ That's totally a reputable and unbiased source that gives nothing but factual and reliable information, I'm sure. /Yawn --- https://media.giphy.com/media/26AHNHoZ6XnXX2fhC/giphy.gif <cite>QueenCarly posted [p:925183725] in I think th... [t:77884360]...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted...</cite> <quote>QueenCarly posted...</cite> <quote> https://growinguptransgender.com/2018/11/01/biological-sex-is-a-social-construct/</quote> That's totally a reputable and unbiased source that gives nothing but factual and reliable information, I'm sure.</quote> /Yawn</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 07/25/19 6:59:06 PM #136:	QueenCarly posted... Passing is just enforcing cisnormative beauty standards on trans people. Fucked up and harmful. No one should have to "pass" to be treated with respect. Passing is just the reality of the situation. It turns out that the concept of "seeing is believing" is more important than somebody else's word on the matter. When somebody sees what they perceive to be "a man in a wig" going into the women's room, it's gonna make a lot of folks uncomfortable. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:925183740] in I think th... [t:77884360]...</cite> <quote>QueenCarly posted...</cite> <quote>Passing is just enforcing cisnormative beauty standards on trans people. Fucked up and harmful. No one should have to "pass" to be treated with respect.</quote> Passing is just the reality of the situation. It turns out that the concept of "seeing is believing" is more important than somebody else's word on the matter. When somebody sees what they perceive to be "a man in a wig" going into the women's room, it's gonna make a lot of folks uncomfortable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
QueenCarly 07/25/19 7:02:25 PM #137:	Gobstoppers12 posted... QueenCarly posted... Passing is just enforcing cisnormative beauty standards on trans people. Fucked up and harmful. No one should have to "pass" to be treated with respect. Passing is just the reality of the situation. It turns out that the concept of "seeing is believing" is more important than somebody else's word on the matter. When somebody sees what they perceive to be "a man in a wig" going into the women's room, it's gonna make a lot of folks uncomfortable. Then they're uncomfortable. Them being uncomfortable doesn't mean trans people can't be fucking respected. They're not owed comfort at the expense of trans people and to cut off the counter argument - no, the opposite does not apply. Trans people should be given the simple ability to be comfortable in a public space. They should not fear being attacked just for existing openly in public. --- https://media.giphy.com/media/26AHNHoZ6XnXX2fhC/giphy.gif <cite>QueenCarly posted [p:925183873] in I think th... [t:77884360]...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted...</cite> <quote>QueenCarly posted...</cite> <quote>Passing is just enforcing cisnormative beauty standards on trans people. Fucked up and harmful. No one should have to "pass" to be treated with respect.</quote> Passing is just the reality of the situation. It turns out that the concept of "seeing is believing" is more important than somebody else's word on the matter. When somebody sees what they perceive to be "a man in a wig" going into the women's room, it's gonna make a lot of folks uncomfortable.</quote> Then they're uncomfortable. Them being uncomfortable doesn't mean trans people can't be fucking respected. They're not owed comfort at the expense of trans people and to cut off the counter argument - no, the opposite does not apply. Trans people should be given the simple ability to be comfortable in a public space. They should not fear being attacked just for existing openly in public.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 07/25/19 7:06:32 PM #138:	QueenCarly posted... They're not owed comfort at the expense of trans people and to cut off the counter argument - no, the opposite does not apply. It kind of does apply. All people deserve to be comfortable, especially when it comes to public bathrooms/locker room spaces, where there's an expectation of being shielded from the eyes/attentions of the opposite sex. While a trans person does perceive him or herself to be a member of that sex, it is an understandable position for somebody to take that said trans person is not the same as them (especially when it comes to genitalia) and it can create that uncomfortable situation of "Why is there a penis in the women's locker room right now?" --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:925184056] in I think th... [t:77884360]...</cite> <quote>QueenCarly posted...</cite> <quote> They're not owed comfort at the expense of trans people and to cut off the counter argument - no, the opposite does not apply.</quote> It kind of does apply. All people deserve to be comfortable, especially when it comes to public bathrooms/locker room spaces, where there's an expectation of being shielded from the eyes/attentions of the opposite sex. While a trans person does perceive him or herself to be a member of that sex, it is an understandable position for somebody to take that said trans person is not the same as them (especially when it comes to genitalia) and it can create that uncomfortable situation of "Why is there a penis in the women's locker room right now?"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zodd3224 07/25/19 7:17:46 PM #140:	Public bathrooms are cesspools and why people are so worried about trans people using them is beyond me. It's such a non issue to make an issue out of. More a symbolic stance than one that is actually going to have any impact on anyone's life other than the trans person. --- https://imgur.com/qAas5O2 <cite>Zodd3224 posted [p:925184605] in I think th... [t:77884360]...</cite> <quote>Public bathrooms are cesspools and why people are so worried about trans people using them is beyond me. It's such a non issue to make an issue out of. More a symbolic stance than one that is actually going to have any impact on anyone's life other than the trans person.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
QueenCarly 07/25/19 7:18:50 PM #141:	DuranOfForcena posted... QueenCarly posted... No one should have to "pass" to be treated with respect. you wanna talk about respect, why are transgender persons supposed to have a free pass to not respect the dating preferences of straight cisgender males who only desire to date cisgender females, and are allowed and even encouraged to not be up front about the fact that they are transgender? how is claiming that a prospective partner has no right to know or ask whether a person is transgender anything but completely disrespecting that prospective partner and their dating preferences? Because cis straight men are gross and don't deserve to be treated with anything but contempt JK But maybe not --- https://media.giphy.com/media/26AHNHoZ6XnXX2fhC/giphy.gif <cite>QueenCarly posted [p:925184663] in I think th... [t:77884360]...</cite> <quote>DuranOfForcena posted...</cite> <quote>QueenCarly posted...</cite> <quote>No one should have to "pass" to be treated with respect.</quote> you wanna talk about respect, why are transgender persons supposed to have a free pass to not respect the dating preferences of straight cisgender males who only desire to date cisgender females, and are allowed and even encouraged to not be up front about the fact that they are transgender? how is claiming that a prospective partner has no right to know or ask whether a person is transgender anything but completely disrespecting that prospective partner and their dating preferences?</quote> Because cis straight men are gross and don't deserve to be treated with anything but contempt JK But maybe not</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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QueenCarly 07/25/19 7:22:00 PM #143:	DuranOfForcena posted... QueenCarly posted... DuranOfForcena posted... QueenCarly posted... No one should have to "pass" to be treated with respect. you wanna talk about respect, why are transgender persons supposed to have a free pass to not respect the dating preferences of straight cisgender males who only desire to date cisgender females, and are allowed and even encouraged to not be up front about the fact that they are transgender? how is claiming that a prospective partner has no right to know or ask whether a person is transgender anything but completely disrespecting that prospective partner and their dating preferences? Because cis straight men are gross and don't deserve to be treated with anything but contempt JK But maybe not hmm if this is another attempt at humor like your last one in this thread, i would suggest to just stop trying to be funny Half serious half not --- https://media.giphy.com/media/26AHNHoZ6XnXX2fhC/giphy.gif <cite>QueenCarly posted [p:925184799] in I think th... [t:77884360]...</cite> <quote>DuranOfForcena posted...</cite> <quote>QueenCarly posted...</cite> <quote>DuranOfForcena posted...</cite> <quote>QueenCarly posted...</cite> <quote>No one should have to "pass" to be treated with respect.</quote> you wanna talk about respect, why are transgender persons supposed to have a free pass to not respect the dating preferences of straight cisgender males who only desire to date cisgender females, and are allowed and even encouraged to not be up front about the fact that they are transgender? how is claiming that a prospective partner has no right to know or ask whether a person is transgender anything but completely disrespecting that prospective partner and their dating preferences?</quote> Because cis straight men are gross and don't deserve to be treated with anything but contempt JK But maybe not</quote> hmm if this is another attempt at humor like your last one in this thread, i would suggest to just stop trying to be funny</quote> Half serious half not</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zodd3224 07/25/19 7:29:00 PM #146:	QueenCarly posted... DuranOfForcena posted... QueenCarly posted... DuranOfForcena posted... QueenCarly posted... No one should have to "pass" to be treated with respect. you wanna talk about respect, why are transgender persons supposed to have a free pass to not respect the dating preferences of straight cisgender males who only desire to date cisgender females, and are allowed and even encouraged to not be up front about the fact that they are transgender? how is claiming that a prospective partner has no right to know or ask whether a person is transgender anything but completely disrespecting that prospective partner and their dating preferences? Because cis straight men are gross and don't deserve to be treated with anything but contempt JK But maybe not hmm if this is another attempt at humor like your last one in this thread, i would suggest to just stop trying to be funny Half serious half not Yeah this is pretty shitty. --- https://imgur.com/qAas5O2 <cite>Zodd3224 posted [p:925185086] in I think th... [t:77884360]...</cite> <quote>QueenCarly posted...</cite> <quote>DuranOfForcena posted...</cite> <quote>QueenCarly posted...</cite> <quote>DuranOfForcena posted...</cite> <quote>QueenCarly posted...</cite> <quote>No one should have to "pass" to be treated with respect.</quote> you wanna talk about respect, why are transgender persons supposed to have a free pass to not respect the dating preferences of straight cisgender males who only desire to date cisgender females, and are allowed and even encouraged to not be up front about the fact that they are transgender? how is claiming that a prospective partner has no right to know or ask whether a person is transgender anything but completely disrespecting that prospective partner and their dating preferences?</quote> Because cis straight men are gross and don't deserve to be treated with anything but contempt JK But maybe not</quote> hmm if this is another attempt at humor like your last one in this thread, i would suggest to just stop trying to be funny</quote> Half serious half not</quote> Yeah this is pretty shitty.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
im not 13 07/25/19 7:30:47 PM #147:	Duuuuuuude looks like a lady --- http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m510t9eNw71r2yd8o.jpg <cite>im not 13 posted [p:925185170] in I think th... [t:77884360]...</cite> <quote>Duuuuuuude looks like a lady</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Freeney 07/25/19 7:33:13 PM #148:	DuranOfForcena posted... QueenCarly posted... Half serious half not that it is meant seriously at all is alarming, and indicative of a severely unreasonable double standard This girl has been standing on her soapbox for basically the entirety of this topic talking about how trans people deserves to be respected and she goes and says that! Lmao. --- 2016/17 MYPH Football Pick 'Em Champion! Colts \| Raptors \| Blue Jays \| Maple Leafs \| TFC \| MCFC <cite>Freeney posted [p:925185284] in I think th... [t:77884360]...</cite> <quote>DuranOfForcena posted...</cite> <quote>QueenCarly posted...</cite> <quote>Half serious half not</quote> that it is meant seriously at all is alarming, and indicative of a severely unreasonable double standard</quote> This girl has been standing on her soapbox for basically the entirety of this topic talking about how trans people deserves to be respected and she goes and says that! Lmao.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
QueenCarly 07/25/19 7:46:55 PM #149:	Freeney posted... DuranOfForcena posted... QueenCarly posted... Half serious half not that it is meant seriously at all is alarming, and indicative of a severely unreasonable double standard This girl has been standing on her soapbox for basically the entirety of this topic talking about how trans people deserves to be respected and she goes and says that! Lmao. I mean if they treat trans people with respect and aren't holding on to harming cisheteronormative beliefs then they're chill with me But generally have experienced this not being the case with most cishet men --- https://media.giphy.com/media/26AHNHoZ6XnXX2fhC/giphy.gif <cite>QueenCarly posted [p:925185845] in I think th... [t:77884360]...</cite> <quote>Freeney posted...</cite> <quote>DuranOfForcena posted...</cite> <quote>QueenCarly posted...</cite> <quote>Half serious half not</quote> that it is meant seriously at all is alarming, and indicative of a severely unreasonable double standard</quote> This girl has been standing on her soapbox for basically the entirety of this topic talking about how trans people deserves to be respected and she goes and says that! Lmao.</quote> I mean if they treat trans people with respect and aren't holding on to harming cisheteronormative beliefs then they're chill with me But generally have experienced this not being the case with most cishet men</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andel 07/25/19 7:48:16 PM #150:	queencarly is clearly not posting in good faith itt --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis <cite>andel posted [p:925185903] in I think th... [t:77884360]...</cite> <quote>queencarly is clearly not posting in good faith itt</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 07/25/19 7:48:37 PM #151:	QueenCarly posted... I mean if they treat trans people with respect and aren't holding on to harming cisheteronormative beliefs then they're chill with me Just as a thought experiment, would you consider it a "harming cisheteronormative belief" to be a straight man who wants his girlfriend to be a born female with a vagina and not a penis? --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:925185917] in I think th... [t:77884360]...</cite> <quote>QueenCarly posted...</cite> <quote>I mean if they treat trans people with respect and aren't holding on to harming cisheteronormative beliefs then they're chill with me</quote> Just as a thought experiment, would you consider it a "harming cisheteronormative belief" to be a straight man who wants his girlfriend to be a born female with a vagina and not a penis?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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