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WastelandCowboy
07/26/19 2:41:22 PM
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Should the individual states or federal government mandate the security of all U.S. elections? - Results (8 votes)
Individual states
62.5% (5 votes)
5
Federal government
37.5% (3 votes)
3
Topic should be self-explanatory. With all the hubbub about election security, I'm curious as to the response from you folks. Should the individual states or federal government mandate the security of all elections inside the USA, regardless of it's at the local, state, or federal level?

Personally, while I'd to see a day where the U.S. federal government doesn't have to step in and control everything, this is something that, IMO, should be controlled by the federal government, to establish a level of consistency. The idea would be that no state has no more control over how they elect their officials than another state to prevent the possibility of anything that could influence or change the results of an election, which everyone should be against, anyway.
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SmokeMassTree
07/26/19 2:43:48 PM
#2:


If it's federal, the federal government should do it

If it's state, the state should do it

If it's local, the state should do it
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Mead
07/26/19 2:45:39 PM
#3:


Both

Federal elections should be secured by federal officials and state elections by state officials
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Taily_Po
07/26/19 2:48:06 PM
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States should have full control over their election process. If security is an actual problem, public outcry within the state tends to address it. The hanging chat issue of the 2000 election, for instance, pushed for the discontinuation of manual punch systems (granted, electronic systems are theoretically *more* prone to fraudulent influence)

WastelandCowboy posted...
The idea would be that no state has no more control over how they elect their officials than another state to prevent the possibility of anything that could influence or change the results of an election, which everyone should be against, anyway.


Putting everything in the hands of the Feds just means that when things fail, they fail more spectacularly. Any corruption -- and there will always be some amount of corruption -- then impacts every state instead of just a few.
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ParanoidObsessive
07/26/19 2:50:35 PM
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If we're worried about corruption, it doesn't matter, because the federal government is just as capable of being corrupt as the various state governments are.


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captpackrat
07/26/19 4:57:59 PM
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The federal government should establish certain minimums, which all states must meet but are allowed to exceed.
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Taily_Po
07/26/19 6:32:15 PM
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captpackrat posted...
The federal government should establish certain minimums, which all states must meet but are allowed to exceed.


idk, that might preclude the possibility of deciding a state's governor by a ski race and I'm not sure I could stand it.

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BlackScythe0
07/26/19 10:26:33 PM
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The federal government needs to ensure election security for federal elections. When we are being attacked by foreign governments we need our government to fight them.
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Taily_Po
07/27/19 1:34:37 AM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
The federal government needs to ensure election security for federal elections. When we are being attacked by foreign governments we need our government to fight them.


...if a foreign nation attacks, it gets reported to the feds anyway. More so, there's no good way to separate national and location elections (since they're held on the same day) and foreign nations have considerable incentive to sabotage local elections as well, considering governors and mayors of large cities have substantial power.

Of course, if the feds control everything, that brings us one step closer to a totalitarian regime because it'd be a helluva lot easier to rig elections.
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BlackScythe0
07/27/19 1:52:58 AM
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Taily_Po posted...
BlackScythe0 posted...
The federal government needs to ensure election security for federal elections. When we are being attacked by foreign governments we need our government to fight them.


...if a foreign nation attacks, it gets reported to the feds anyway. More so, there's no good way to separate national and location elections (since they're held on the same day) and foreign nations have considerable incentive to sabotage local elections as well, considering governors and mayors of large cities have substantial power.

Of course, if the feds control everything, that brings us one step closer to a totalitarian regime because it'd be a helluva lot easier to rig elections.


Right now the only elections we are seeing rigged are being done with how decentralized things are.
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Yellow
07/27/19 2:38:30 AM
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I'd like more details before answering that.
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Taily_Po
07/27/19 5:56:17 AM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
Taily_Po posted...
BlackScythe0 posted...
The federal government needs to ensure election security for federal elections. When we are being attacked by foreign governments we need our government to fight them.


...if a foreign nation attacks, it gets reported to the feds anyway. More so, there's no good way to separate national and location elections (since they're held on the same day) and foreign nations have considerable incentive to sabotage local elections as well, considering governors and mayors of large cities have substantial power.

Of course, if the feds control everything, that brings us one step closer to a totalitarian regime because it'd be a helluva lot easier to rig elections.


Right now the only elections we are seeing rigged are being done with how decentralized things are.


I'm sure you can elaborate with actual examples and I'm absolutely certain that you're not going to pretend that influence-peddling is the same thing as vote-tampering.
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