Current Events > If a woman forces a man to have sex, is that rape? It isnt in England and Wales.

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https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-49057533

When a man has penetrative sex with a woman without her consent, that's rape. But what if a woman makes a man have penetrative sex with her, without his consent? That's not rape under the law of England and Wales, but the author of a new study of the phenomenon says perhaps it should be. Her latest study, published this week - based on one-to-one interviews with 30 men between May 2018 and July 2019 - explores in greater detail the context in which forced penetration occurs, its consequences, and the response of the criminal justice system. All the participants were anonymised, but I will call one of them John. She'd come home from her job "and basically demand sex", he says. "She would be violent, and it got to the stage that I dreaded her coming back from work." On one occasion John woke up to find that his partner had handcuffed his right arm to the metal bed frame. Then she started hitting him on the head with a loudspeaker from the stereo system beside the bed, tied up his other arm with some nylon rope and tried to force him to have sex. Scared and in pain, John was unable to comply with her demands - so she beat him again and left him chained up for half an hour, before returning and freeing him. Afterwards she refused to talk about what had happened. Not long after that she became pregnant, and the violence abated. But a few months after the baby was born, John again woke one night to discover that he was being handcuffed to the bed. Then, he says, his partner force-fed him Viagra and gagged him. "There was nothing I could do about it," he says. When John has tried to tell people about it, he says he has often met with disbelief.

"I've been asked why I didn't leave the house. Well, it was my house that I'd bought for my kids. And the financial side as well, I was so locked into the relationship financially," he says. "I still get disbelief because it's like, 'Well why didn't you hit her back?' I get that quite a lot. Well that's a lot easier said than done. "I wish I'd run away a lot sooner." Aspects of John's story are repeated in the experiences of some of the other men Dr Weare has interviewed. One of her findings is that the perpetrator in "forced-to-penetrate" (FTP) cases is often a female partner or ex-partner , and that the experience is frequently one element in a wider pattern of domestic abuse. The experience of disbelief is also mentioned by other interviewees. "You must have enjoyed it or you'd have reported it sooner," one man says he was told by a police officer. Another participant said: "We're scared to talk about it and embarrassed, and when we do talk about it, we're not believed, because we're men. How can a man possibly be abused? Look at him, he's a man."


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I'm guessing that guy has to pay child support/alimony to his rapist/abuser.
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Same in Ireland. Fun fact, a woman can't rape a male child either. It has to involve penetrative sex with penis and vagina
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Centuries old portions of the world with backwards-assed archaic beliefs that conflict with progressive rhetoric of today?

I for one am SHOCKED...
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OpenlyGator posted...

Centuries old portions of the world with backwards-assed archaic beliefs that conflict with progressive rhetoric of today?

I for one am SHOCKED...

TIL "raping a man should be illegal" is rhetoric.
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Sounds about on the same level of stupidity of the "wives can't be raped" laws some places have had.

nemu posted...

Sounds about on the same level of stupidity of the "wives can't be raped" laws some places have had.

We also had that in Ireland!

Ireland: a beacon of ass backwards things where some still exist
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Jerry_Hellyeah posted...

OpenlyGator posted...

Centuries old portions of the world with backwards-assed archaic beliefs that conflict with progressive rhetoric of today?

I for one am SHOCKED...

TIL "raping a man should be illegal" is rhetoric.

Partly, yes.

Is the concept just in the form of rhetoric? No.
Is there rhetoric stating that? Yes.

It's part of the idea that the act of raping someone is inherently wrong despite gender. Which I agree.
Which means I do not agree with how the laws in the article are written. They're out-dated in need of reform.
They're sexist and dismiss the possibility of certain victims based on gender.
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"Boys always want it."
"Nobody would believe you anyway because I'm a girl."
"Even if they believed you, they would think something is wrong with *you* and not me because you didn't enjoy it."

That's what my attacker always told me back then, between the ages of 6 to 9 I had to deal with molestation with no escape because as far as I knew, she was right.

30 years later and nothing has changed. Disbelief, apathy, mockery, that's all I've ever gotten from others. The abuse ended long ago, but the victimizing never stopped.
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wow

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Yeah a lot of laws are old and need to be changed
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england sucks
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted...

nemu posted...

Sounds about on the same level of stupidity of the "wives can't be raped" laws some places have had.

We also had that in Ireland!

Ireland: a beacon of ass backwards things where some still exist

As if I didn't already have plenty of reasons to visit Ireland.

Here's hoping a busty red-headed Irish lass just has to have her way with me.
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America suck
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