Current Events > Mural of George Washington set to be destroyed for being racist

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FrozenXylophone 08/02/19 8:58:49 PM #1:	https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1038641 More than 100 people filled the lobby of a San Francisco high school on Thursday to see a mural of George Washington that has been ordered destroyed because its depiction of slaves and the subjugation of Native American is deemed by some to be racist. The massive mural shows Washington at various points in his life, with images of slaves working at his Mount Vernon home and a dead Native American killed in America's westward expansion. A majority of those who came to see the mural, take pictures and snap selfies seemed to be against its destruction, NBC Bay Area reported. The artwork, painted in 1935 by Russian immigrant Victor Arnautoff, was intended as a harsh critique of Washington's legacy as America's first president. <cite>FrozenXylophone posted [p:925543063] in Mural of G... [t:77910495]...</cite> <quote>https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1038641 <quote>More than 100 people filled the lobby of a San Francisco high school on Thursday to see a mural of George Washington that has been ordered destroyed because its depiction of slaves and the subjugation of Native American is deemed by some to be racist. The massive mural shows Washington at various points in his life, with images of slaves working at his Mount Vernon home and a dead Native American killed in America's westward expansion. A majority of those who came to see the mural, take pictures and snap selfies seemed to be against its destruction, NBC Bay Area reported. The artwork, painted in 1935 by Russian immigrant Victor Arnautoff, was intended as a harsh critique of Washington's legacy as America's first president.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reis 08/02/19 8:58:58 PM #2:	nice <cite>Reis posted [p:925543066] in Mural of G... [t:77910495]...</cite> <quote>nice </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paper_Okami 08/02/19 8:59:44 PM #3:	it's a shitty mural anyway --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie <cite>Paper_Okami posted [p:925543089] in Mural of G... [t:77910495]...</cite> <quote>it's a shitty mural anyway </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FrozenXylophone 08/02/19 9:00:28 PM #5:	"Most people are painting glossy pictures of our founding fathers, and this is very contrary to that," said the artist's grandson Paul Arnautoff, who attended the public viewing. But others, like Linda Fadeke Richardson, who is African American, backed the school board and said the images in front of her were derogatory.'' <cite>FrozenXylophone posted [p:925543117] in Mural of G... [t:77910495]...</cite> <quote><quote>"Most people are painting glossy pictures of our founding fathers, and this is very contrary to that," said the artist's grandson Paul Arnautoff, who attended the public viewing. But others, like Linda Fadeke Richardson, who is African American, backed the school board and said the images in front of her were derogatory.''</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 08/02/19 9:01:54 PM #6:	https://www.birminghamtimes.com/2018/02/after-complaints-about-slave-mural-jefferson-county-to-unveil-new-paintings-in-april/ --- 53 LIII 0b110101 p16 0x35 <cite>DevsBro posted [p:925543161] in Mural of G... [t:77910495]...</cite> <quote>https://www.birminghamtimes.com/2018/02/after-complaints-about-slave-mural-jefferson-county-to-unveil-new-paintings-in-april/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hyperpsycho 08/02/19 9:02:20 PM #8:	--- Husband. Father. Gamer. https://imgur.com/ZrnUI3A ~United_World. https://imgtc.com/i/3fBg5r1.jpg ~Proofpyros. https://i.imgtc.ws/1rnJA1h.jpg ~Ryetoast <cite>hyperpsycho posted [p:925543173] in Mural of G... [t:77910495]...</cite> <quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kastrada 08/02/19 9:02:27 PM #9:	FrozenXylophone posted... But others, like Linda Fadeke Richardson, who is African American, backed the school board and said the images in front of her were derogatory.'' So wait....she is saying that criticizing America's genocide and enslavement of two minorities groups is derogatory? So.....she.....supports those things? --- PoW '09 Topic of the Year Co-Winners (Rada and Texy) FFD <cite>Kastrada posted [p:925543175] in Mural of G... [t:77910495]...</cite> <quote>FrozenXylophone posted...</cite> <quote>But others, like Linda Fadeke Richardson, who is African American, backed the school board and said the images in front of her were derogatory.''</quote> So wait....she is saying that criticizing America's genocide and enslavement of two minorities groups is derogatory? So.....she.....supports those things?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Freddie_Mercury 08/02/19 9:02:35 PM #10:	FrozenXylophone posted... "Most people are painting glossy pictures of our founding fathers, and this is very contrary to that," said the artist's grandson Paul Arnautoff, who attended the public viewing. isn't that what history class is for --- https://i.imgtc.com/eMQvkRJ.png https://i.imgtc.ws/l86HyIt.png <cite>Freddie_Mercury posted [p:925543179] in Mural of G... [t:77910495]...</cite> <quote>FrozenXylophone posted...</cite> <quote>"Most people are painting glossy pictures of our founding fathers, and this is very contrary to that," said the artist's grandson Paul Arnautoff, who attended the public viewing. </quote> isn't that what history class is for</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterpug53 08/02/19 9:07:47 PM #11:	ProfessorKukui posted... The people of Pawnee wouldn't have stood for this. --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read. <cite>masterpug53 posted [p:925543326] in Mural of G... [t:77910495]...</cite> <quote>ProfessorKukui posted...</cite> <quote>The people of Pawnee wouldn't have stood for this.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 08/02/19 9:21:14 PM #12:	I have mixed feelings about this. They are paying a lot of money to have it digitally archived, so it's not as if it's been erased from existence. On the other hand, a mural meant to criticize the subjugation and genocide of minority groups seems like something that should be preserved in its original form. It's not like the victims being depict are drawn as exaggerated caricatures. Of course, a high school is a bit of an odd location for such a thing. I don't think visual representations of atrocities are what I would want to see along the walls of my high school. It's important to remember them, but to be confronted with it between classes for five days a week seems a bit excessive. And it's not like it's a great landmark. It's a high school mural. I don't know. On the whole, I think I disapprove of taking it down. But I think there have been worse losses than this. <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:925543792] in Mural of G... [t:77910495]...</cite> <quote>I have mixed feelings about this. They are paying a lot of money to have it digitally archived, so it's not as if it's been erased from existence. On the other hand, a mural meant to criticize the subjugation and genocide of minority groups seems like something that should be preserved in its original form. It's not like the victims being depict are drawn as exaggerated caricatures. Of course, a high school is a bit of an odd location for such a thing. I don't think visual representations of atrocities are what I would want to see along the walls of my high school. It's important to remember them, but to be confronted with it between classes for five days a week seems a bit excessive. And it's not like it's a great landmark. It's a high school mural. I don't know. On the whole, I think I disapprove of taking it down. But I think there have been worse losses than this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kastrada 08/02/19 9:23:29 PM #13:	Freddie_Mercury posted... isn't that what history class is for You think the negative aspects of history should be contained just in history classes? --- PoW '09 Topic of the Year Co-Winners (Rada and Texy) FFD <cite>Kastrada posted [p:925543860] in Mural of G... [t:77910495]...</cite> <quote>Freddie_Mercury posted...</cite> <quote>isn't that what history class is for </quote> You think the negative aspects of history should be contained just in history classes?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 08/02/19 9:26:25 PM #14:	I think it wiser, moreover, not to keep open the sores of war, but to follow the example of those nations who endeavored to obliterate the marks of civil strife, and to commit to oblivion the feelings it engendered. ~ General Robert E. Lee --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:925543950] in Mural of G... [t:77910495]...</cite> <quote><quote>I think it wiser, moreover, not to keep open the sores of war, but to follow the example of those nations who endeavored to obliterate the marks of civil strife, and to commit to oblivion the feelings it engendered.</quote> ~ General Robert E. Lee </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Skye Reynolds 08/02/19 9:27:37 PM #16:	Tyranthraxus posted... I think it wiser, moreover, not to keep open the sores of war, but to follow the example of those nations who endeavored to obliterate the marks of civil strife, and to commit to oblivion the feelings it engendered. ~ General Lee whose high school was later renamed after pharmaceuticals <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:925543989] in Mural of G... [t:77910495]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><quote> I think it wiser, moreover, not to keep open the sores of war, but to follow the example of those nations who endeavored to obliterate the marks of civil strife, and to commit to oblivion the feelings it engendered.</quote> ~ General Lee </quote> whose high school was later renamed after pharmaceuticals</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EverDownward 08/02/19 9:29:45 PM #17:	So...artwork created by an immigrant that was meant to be a scathing critique against the first U.S. President is going to be destroyed for doing exactly what it intended to do? --- "Tried to point my finger, but the wind was blowing me around in circles, circles." <cite>EverDownward posted [p:925544074] in Mural of G... [t:77910495]...</cite> <quote>So...artwork created by an immigrant that was meant to be a scathing critique against the first U.S. President is going to be destroyed for doing exactly what it intended to do?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrozenXylophone 08/02/19 9:29:54 PM #18:	Skye Reynolds posted... Tyranthraxus posted... I think it wiser, moreover, not to keep open the sores of war, but to follow the example of those nations who endeavored to obliterate the marks of civil strife, and to commit to oblivion the feelings it engendered. ~ General Lee whose high school was later renamed after pharmaceuticals To be fair, it could happen to George Washington in the far future. <cite>FrozenXylophone posted [p:925544079] in Mural of G... [t:77910495]...</cite> <quote>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><quote> I think it wiser, moreover, not to keep open the sores of war, but to follow the example of those nations who endeavored to obliterate the marks of civil strife, and to commit to oblivion the feelings it engendered.</quote> ~ General Lee </quote> whose high school was later renamed after pharmaceuticals</quote> To be fair, it could happen to George Washington in the far future.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaiganeer 08/02/19 9:39:51 PM #19:	ought to set fire to some books while they're at it <cite>Kaiganeer posted [p:925544378] in Mural of G... [t:77910495]...</cite> <quote>ought to set fire to some books while they're at it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SapphireTech462 08/02/19 9:43:27 PM #20:	Too bad it cant be moved to a museum. --- 3TEETH - METAWAR - Metal - 2019 <cite>SapphireTech462 posted [p:925544480] in Mural of G... [t:77910495]...</cite> <quote>Too bad it cant be moved to a museum.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 08/02/19 9:44:50 PM #21:	SapphireTech462 posted... Too bad it cant be moved to a museum. If some rich donor were to fund it, that would be my preference as well. <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:925544524] in Mural of G... [t:77910495]...</cite> <quote>SapphireTech462 posted...</cite> <quote>Too bad it cant be moved to a museum.</quote> If some rich donor were to fund it, that would be my preference as well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Delta_F14 08/02/19 10:11:13 PM #22:	Wonder if I'll live to see Mt Rushmore being destroyed. --- http://conniptions.me/ <cite>Delta_F14 posted [p:925545354] in Mural of G... [t:77910495]...</cite> <quote>Wonder if I'll live to see Mt Rushmore being destroyed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hanky_Bannister 08/02/19 10:12:34 PM #23:	I dont like the idea of erasing art for feels This isnt the same as those shitty confederate shit monuments --- "3rd Best Whiskey in Northern Burma" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvjOu4EzjYg <cite>Hanky_Bannister posted [p:925545397] in Mural of G... [t:77910495]...</cite> <quote>I dont like the idea of erasing art for feels This isnt the same as those shitty confederate shit monuments</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Duncanwii 08/02/19 10:17:25 PM #24:	Delta_F14 posted... Wonder if I'll live to see Mt Rushmore being destroyed. Dont be overly dramatic --- Hello, I like video games and comedies. Let's be friends. :) <cite>Duncanwii posted [p:925545555] in Mural of G... [t:77910495]...</cite> <quote>Delta_F14 posted...</cite> <quote>Wonder if I'll live to see Mt Rushmore being destroyed.</quote> Dont be overly dramatic</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
E32005 08/02/19 10:17:52 PM #25:	Hanky_Bannister posted... I dont like the idea of erasing art for feels --- https://i.imgtc.com/IR4XrBA.gif https://i.imgtc.com/7X1rBRv.gif <cite>E32005 posted [p:925545569] in Mural of G... [t:77910495]...</cite> <quote>Hanky_Bannister posted...</cite> <quote>I dont like the idea of erasing art for feels </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrozenXylophone 08/03/19 11:29:19 AM #26:	Duncanwii posted... Delta_F14 posted... Wonder if I'll live to see Mt Rushmore being destroyed. Dont be overly dramatic It was built on stolen land from Natives so I don't think he was. <cite>FrozenXylophone posted [p:925562434] in Mural of G... [t:77910495]...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted...</cite> <quote>Delta_F14 posted...</cite> <quote>Wonder if I'll live to see Mt Rushmore being destroyed.</quote> Dont be overly dramatic</quote> It was built on stolen land from Natives so I don't think he was.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
uwnim 08/03/19 11:38:50 AM #27:	This seems really dumb. Do these people also want to change the history textbooks so everyone can pretend the horrible shit we did never happened? --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] <cite>uwnim posted [p:925562741] in Mural of G... [t:77910495]...</cite> <quote>This seems really dumb. Do these people also want to change the history textbooks so everyone can pretend the horrible shit we did never happened?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 08/03/19 7:08:41 PM #28:	FrozenXylophone posted... Duncanwii posted... Delta_F14 posted... Wonder if I'll live to see Mt Rushmore being destroyed. Dont be overly dramatic It was built on stolen land from Natives so I don't think he was. They're not gonna replace Mt. Rushmore. They're just gonna chisel Teddy Roosevelt into Barack Obama. <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:925578875] in Mural of G... [t:77910495]...</cite> <quote>FrozenXylophone posted...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted...</cite> <quote>Delta_F14 posted...</cite> <quote>Wonder if I'll live to see Mt Rushmore being destroyed.</quote> Dont be overly dramatic</quote> It was built on stolen land from Natives so I don't think he was.</quote> They're not gonna replace Mt. Rushmore. They're just gonna chisel Teddy Roosevelt into Barack Obama.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrozenXylophone 08/03/19 9:00:11 PM #29:	Skye Reynolds posted... FrozenXylophone posted... Duncanwii posted... Delta_F14 posted... Wonder if I'll live to see Mt Rushmore being destroyed. Dont be overly dramatic It was built on stolen land from Natives so I don't think he was. They're not gonna replace Mt. Rushmore. They're just gonna chisel Teddy Roosevelt into Barack Obama. How will that appease those whose ancestor's lands were stolen? <cite>FrozenXylophone posted [p:925583037] in Mural of G... [t:77910495]...</cite> <quote>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote>FrozenXylophone posted...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted...</cite> <quote>Delta_F14 posted...</cite> <quote>Wonder if I'll live to see Mt Rushmore being destroyed.</quote> Dont be overly dramatic</quote> It was built on stolen land from Natives so I don't think he was.</quote> They're not gonna replace Mt. Rushmore. They're just gonna chisel Teddy Roosevelt into Barack Obama.</quote> How will that appease those whose ancestor's lands were stolen?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 08/03/19 9:12:25 PM #30:	I was being facetious. <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:925583447] in Mural of G... [t:77910495]...</cite> <quote>I was being facetious.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FFVII_REMAKE 08/03/19 9:14:57 PM #31:	So they destroy a mural that was painted by their own students not too long ago. Liberal logic. --- LA Clippers fan since 2019 https://i.imgtc.ws/UOwpJCI.jpg <cite>FFVII_REMAKE posted [p:925583526] in Mural of G... [t:77910495]...</cite> <quote>So they destroy a mural that was painted by their own students not too long ago. Liberal logic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prestoff 08/03/19 9:24:03 PM #32:	Hanky_Bannister posted... I dont like the idea of erasing art for feels This isnt the same as those shitty confederate shit monuments This is my feelings as well. --- It's what all true warriors strive for! Switch FC: SW-0575-4758-7878 <cite>Prestoff posted [p:925583796] in Mural of G... [t:77910495]...</cite> <quote>Hanky_Bannister posted...</cite> <quote>I dont like the idea of erasing art for feels This isnt the same as those shitty confederate shit monuments</quote> This is my feelings as well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Duncanwii 08/03/19 9:26:45 PM #33:	FrozenXylophone posted... Duncanwii posted... Delta_F14 posted... Wonder if I'll live to see Mt Rushmore being destroyed. Dont be overly dramatic It was built on stolen land from Natives so I don't think he was. They arent going to destroy a national landmark to appese people who died long long ago. Its like saying they'd knock down the Washington Monumemt because it was built by slaves. So again, stop being overly dramatic. --- Hello, I like video games and comedies. Let's be friends. :) <cite>Duncanwii posted [p:925583913] in Mural of G... [t:77910495]...</cite> <quote>FrozenXylophone posted...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted...</cite> <quote>Delta_F14 posted...</cite> <quote>Wonder if I'll live to see Mt Rushmore being destroyed.</quote> Dont be overly dramatic</quote> It was built on stolen land from Natives so I don't think he was.</quote> They arent going to destroy a national landmark to appese people who died long long ago. Its like saying they'd knock down the Washington Monumemt because it was built by slaves. So again, stop being overly dramatic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
omega cookie 08/03/19 9:35:03 PM #34:	Duncanwii posted... FrozenXylophone posted... Duncanwii posted... Delta_F14 posted... Wonder if I'll live to see Mt Rushmore being destroyed. Dont be overly dramatic It was built on stolen land from Natives so I don't think he was. They arent going to destroy a national landmark to appese people who died long long ago. Its like saying they'd knock down the Washington Monumemt because it was built by slaves. So again, stop being overly dramatic. He posts, while being the guy who PMs mods asking to be banned and spams the board with topics titled "I'm a bad person" because some "girl" on a dying message board puts him on ignore. --- FFRK: BRKB - Eiko - Guardian Mog <cite>omega cookie posted [p:925584235] in Mural of G... [t:77910495]...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted...</cite> <quote>FrozenXylophone posted...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted...</cite> <quote>Delta_F14 posted...</cite> <quote>Wonder if I'll live to see Mt Rushmore being destroyed.</quote> Dont be overly dramatic</quote> It was built on stolen land from Natives so I don't think he was.</quote> They arent going to destroy a national landmark to appese people who died long long ago. Its like saying they'd knock down the Washington Monumemt because it was built by slaves. So again, stop being overly dramatic.</quote> He posts, while being the guy who PMs mods asking to be banned and spams the board with topics titled "I'm a bad person" because some "girl" on a dying message board puts him on ignore.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Duncanwii 08/03/19 9:41:15 PM #35:	omega cookie posted... Duncanwii posted... FrozenXylophone posted... Duncanwii posted... Delta_F14 posted... Wonder if I'll live to see Mt Rushmore being destroyed. Dont be overly dramatic It was built on stolen land from Natives so I don't think he was. They arent going to destroy a national landmark to appese people who died long long ago. Its like saying they'd knock down the Washington Monumemt because it was built by slaves. So again, stop being overly dramatic. He posts, while being the guy who PMs mods asking to be banned and spams the board with topics titled "I'm a bad person" because some "girl" on a dying message board puts him on ignore. So you have no retort and you decide to attack my character rather then continue the conversation? How droll. Also insinuating Sayoria isnt a girl is against the rules on this site so don't do that. --- Hello, I like video games and comedies. Let's be friends. :) <cite>Duncanwii posted [p:925584464] in Mural of G... [t:77910495]...</cite> <quote>omega cookie posted...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted...</cite> <quote>FrozenXylophone posted...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted...</cite> <quote>Delta_F14 posted...</cite> <quote>Wonder if I'll live to see Mt Rushmore being destroyed.</quote> Dont be overly dramatic</quote> It was built on stolen land from Natives so I don't think he was.</quote> They arent going to destroy a national landmark to appese people who died long long ago. Its like saying they'd knock down the Washington Monumemt because it was built by slaves. So again, stop being overly dramatic.</quote> He posts, while being the guy who PMs mods asking to be banned and spams the board with topics titled "I'm a bad person" because some "girl" on a dying message board puts him on ignore.</quote> So you have no retort and you decide to attack my character rather then continue the conversation? How droll. Also insinuating Sayoria isnt a girl is against the rules on this site so don't do that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meestermj 08/03/19 9:42:08 PM #36:	We've gotten to a point where being "woke" and sensitive are more important than remembering history and honoring the people who founded our nation. Fucking pathetic. --- Psn: beastlytoast Left-handed fire-slapsies leave me feeling confused about life. - Merydia <cite>meestermj posted [p:925584510] in Mural of G... [t:77910495]...</cite> <quote>We've gotten to a point where being "woke" and sensitive are more important than remembering history and honoring the people who founded our nation. Fucking pathetic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheBlueMonk_ 08/03/19 9:43:22 PM #37:	Conservatives: "WHY DO YOU KEEP BRINGING UP SLAVERY! IT WAS YEARS AGO. NONE OF YOU WERE SLAVES ANYWAY GET OVER IT!" Also Conservatives: "HOW DARE THEY REMOVE THIS MURAL JUST BECAUSE BLACK PEOPLE WERE SHOWN AS SLAVES. THATS A PART OF HISTORY, JUST ACCEPT IT" --- TWICE https://i.imgtc.ws/MjndBj5.gif <cite>TheBlueMonk_ posted [p:925584550] in Mural of G... [t:77910495]...</cite> <quote>Conservatives: "WHY DO YOU KEEP BRINGING UP SLAVERY! IT WAS YEARS AGO. NONE OF YOU WERE SLAVES ANYWAY GET OVER IT!" Also Conservatives: "HOW DARE THEY REMOVE THIS MURAL JUST BECAUSE BLACK PEOPLE WERE SHOWN AS SLAVES. THATS A PART OF HISTORY, JUST ACCEPT IT"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IShall_Run_Amok 08/03/19 9:44:00 PM #38:	Delta_F14 posted... Wonder if I'll live to see Mt Rushmore being destroyed. I mean, Mt. Rushmore's very construction involved destroying something much better and more significant than the end product, so it shouldn't be surprising to see the current Mount Rushmore destroyed to make way for something even more useless, if such a thing exists, before one dies. --- WhOs gOnNA gET hIs sPeciAL boWlinG bALl? <cite>IShall_Run_Amok posted [p:925584569] in Mural of G... [t:77910495]...</cite> <quote>Delta_F14 posted...</cite> <quote>Wonder if I'll live to see Mt Rushmore being destroyed.</quote> I mean, Mt. Rushmore's very construction involved destroying something much better and more significant than the end product, so it shouldn't be surprising to see the current Mount Rushmore destroyed to make way for something even more useless, if such a thing exists, before one dies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
omega cookie 08/03/19 9:44:03 PM #39:	Duncanwii posted... omega cookie posted... Duncanwii posted... FrozenXylophone posted... Duncanwii posted... Delta_F14 posted... Wonder if I'll live to see Mt Rushmore being destroyed. Dont be overly dramatic It was built on stolen land from Natives so I don't think he was. They arent going to destroy a national landmark to appese people who died long long ago. Its like saying they'd knock down the Washington Monumemt because it was built by slaves. So again, stop being overly dramatic. He posts, while being the guy who PMs mods asking to be banned and spams the board with topics titled "I'm a bad person" because some "girl" on a dying message board puts him on ignore. So you have no retort and you decide to attack my character rather then continue the conversation? How droll. Also insinuating Sayoria isnt a girl is against the rules on this site so don't do that. Wasn't Sayoria, but it's interesting that when I say "girl", you immediately jump to a trans person. That's fucked up. And I can't "continue the conversation", seeing as how I'm not the person you were talking to. It must be awful being so slow on the uptake. --- FFRK: BRKB - Eiko - Guardian Mog <cite>omega cookie posted [p:925584571] in Mural of G... [t:77910495]...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted...</cite> <quote>omega cookie posted...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted...</cite> <quote>FrozenXylophone posted...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted...</cite> <quote>Delta_F14 posted...</cite> <quote>Wonder if I'll live to see Mt Rushmore being destroyed.</quote> Dont be overly dramatic</quote> It was built on stolen land from Natives so I don't think he was.</quote> They arent going to destroy a national landmark to appese people who died long long ago. Its like saying they'd knock down the Washington Monumemt because it was built by slaves. So again, stop being overly dramatic.</quote> He posts, while being the guy who PMs mods asking to be banned and spams the board with topics titled "I'm a bad person" because some "girl" on a dying message board puts him on ignore.</quote> So you have no retort and you decide to attack my character rather then continue the conversation? How droll. Also insinuating Sayoria isnt a girl is against the rules on this site so don't do that.</quote> Wasn't Sayoria, but it's interesting that when I say "girl", you immediately jump to a trans person. That's fucked up. And I can't "continue the conversation", seeing as how I'm not the person you were talking to. It must be awful being so slow on the uptake.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrozenXylophone 08/04/19 9:01:47 AM #40:	TheBlueMonk_ posted... Conservatives: "WHY DO YOU KEEP BRINGING UP SLAVERY! IT WAS YEARS AGO. NONE OF YOU WERE SLAVES ANYWAY GET OVER IT!" Also Conservatives: "HOW DARE THEY REMOVE THIS MURAL JUST BECAUSE BLACK PEOPLE WERE SHOWN AS SLAVES. THATS A PART OF HISTORY, JUST ACCEPT IT" Are you so sure about that? <cite>FrozenXylophone posted [p:925600383] in Mural of G... [t:77910495]...</cite> <quote>TheBlueMonk_ posted...</cite> <quote>Conservatives: "WHY DO YOU KEEP BRINGING UP SLAVERY! IT WAS YEARS AGO. NONE OF YOU WERE SLAVES ANYWAY GET OVER IT!" Also Conservatives: "HOW DARE THEY REMOVE THIS MURAL JUST BECAUSE BLACK PEOPLE WERE SHOWN AS SLAVES. THATS A PART OF HISTORY, JUST ACCEPT IT"</quote> Are you so sure about that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 08/04/19 9:14:29 AM #41:	Tyranthraxus posted... I think it wiser, moreover, not to keep open the sores of war, but to follow the example of those nations who endeavored to obliterate the marks of civil strife, and to commit to oblivion the feelings it engendered. ~ General Robert E. Lee Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. ~George Santayana --- UnfairRepresent: "wut? who are you?" Ivynn: "DAYUM Shablagoo made you meltdown so hard you blocked it and him from your memory!" <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:925600688] in Mural of G... [t:77910495]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><quote>I think it wiser, moreover, not to keep open the sores of war, but to follow the example of those nations who endeavored to obliterate the marks of civil strife, and to commit to oblivion the feelings it engendered.</quote> ~ General Robert E. Lee </quote> Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. ~George Santayana</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Sonic 08/04/19 9:16:36 AM #42:	TheBlueMonk_ posted... Conservatives: "WHY DO YOU KEEP BRINGING UP SLAVERY! IT WAS YEARS AGO. NONE OF YOU WERE SLAVES ANYWAY GET OVER IT!" Also Conservatives: "HOW DARE THEY REMOVE THIS MURAL JUST BECAUSE BLACK PEOPLE WERE SHOWN AS SLAVES. THATS A PART OF HISTORY, JUST ACCEPT IT" I do agree with the latter part, though. Left or right trying to censor history should be taken as an affront and a desire to absolve responsibility through denial. --- "Imagine a world where hypothetical situations didn't exist..." <cite>Solid Sonic posted [p:925600740] in Mural of G... [t:77910495]...</cite> <quote>TheBlueMonk_ posted... </cite> <quote>Conservatives: "WHY DO YOU KEEP BRINGING UP SLAVERY! IT WAS YEARS AGO. NONE OF YOU WERE SLAVES ANYWAY GET OVER IT!" Also Conservatives: "HOW DARE THEY REMOVE THIS MURAL JUST BECAUSE BLACK PEOPLE WERE SHOWN AS SLAVES. THATS A PART OF HISTORY, JUST ACCEPT IT"</quote>I do agree with the latter part, though. Left or right trying to censor history should be taken as an affront and a desire to absolve responsibility through denial. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk 08/04/19 9:19:52 AM #43:	"hey remember that this painting is meant to show us how bad the first president actually was? Well we think it's racist now to show how racist he was so can we remove it for correctly displaying how fucked up racism is?" Is it conservatives that are removing this? It has to be right Oh wait it's "woke" people. I thought it was liberals for a moment. --- Dogs playing poker is the greatest sport of all time <cite>RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted [p:925600807] in Mural of G... [t:77910495]...</cite> <quote>"hey remember that this painting is meant to show us how bad the first president actually was? Well we think it's racist now to show how racist he was so can we remove it for correctly displaying how fucked up racism is?" Is it conservatives that are removing this? It has to be right Oh wait it's "woke" people. I thought it was liberals for a moment.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 08/04/19 9:40:36 AM #44:	FrozenXylophone posted... The artwork, painted in 1935 by Russian immigrant Victor Arnautoff, was intended as a harsh critique of Washington's legacy as America's first president. Anyone else think this was a weird choice for a school that is literally named after this president --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg https://imgur.com/8kjZU <cite>eston posted [p:925601230] in Mural of G... [t:77910495]...</cite> <quote>FrozenXylophone posted... </cite> <quote>The artwork, painted in 1935 by Russian immigrant Victor Arnautoff, was intended as a harsh critique of Washington's legacy as America's first president.</quote>Anyone else think this was a weird choice for a school that is literally named after this president </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 08/04/19 10:10:17 AM #45:	eston posted... FrozenXylophone posted... The artwork, painted in 1935 by Russian immigrant Victor Arnautoff, was intended as a harsh critique of Washington's legacy as America's first president. Anyone else think this was a weird choice for a school that is literally named after this president I like it, that they tried to be honest and show all sides of their namesake. --- UnfairRepresent: "wut? who are you?" Ivynn: "DAYUM Shablagoo made you meltdown so hard you blocked it and him from your memory!" <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:925602039] in Mural of G... [t:77910495]...</cite> <quote>eston posted...</cite> <quote>FrozenXylophone posted... </cite> <quote>The artwork, painted in 1935 by Russian immigrant Victor Arnautoff, was intended as a harsh critique of Washington's legacy as America's first president.</quote>Anyone else think this was a weird choice for a school that is literally named after this president </quote> I like it, that they tried to be honest and show all sides of their namesake.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CountDog 08/04/19 10:17:35 AM #46:	Skye Reynolds posted... I have mixed feelings about this. They are paying a lot of money to have it digitally archived, so it's not as if it's been erased from existence. On the other hand, a mural meant to criticize the subjugation and genocide of minority groups seems like something that should be preserved in its original form. It's not like the victims being depict are drawn as exaggerated caricatures. Of course, a high school is a bit of an odd location for such a thing. I don't think visual representations of atrocities are what I would want to see along the walls of my high school. It's important to remember them, but to be confronted with it between classes for five days a week seems a bit excessive. And it's not like it's a great landmark. It's a high school mural. I don't know. On the whole, I think I disapprove of taking it down. But I think there have been worse losses than this. Depends on how mature your students and staff are. To have a constant reminder of negative impact is a sense of wisdom, unless misunderstood, misjudged, or people in general are more immature today. --- http://kinomania.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/gran-torino-clint-eastwood.jpg <cite>CountDog posted [p:925602257] in Mural of G... [t:77910495]...</cite> <quote>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote>I have mixed feelings about this. They are paying a lot of money to have it digitally archived, so it's not as if it's been erased from existence. On the other hand, a mural meant to criticize the subjugation and genocide of minority groups seems like something that should be preserved in its original form. It's not like the victims being depict are drawn as exaggerated caricatures. Of course, a high school is a bit of an odd location for such a thing. I don't think visual representations of atrocities are what I would want to see along the walls of my high school. It's important to remember them, but to be confronted with it between classes for five days a week seems a bit excessive. And it's not like it's a great landmark. It's a high school mural. I don't know. On the whole, I think I disapprove of taking it down. But I think there have been worse losses than this.</quote> Depends on how mature your students and staff are. To have a constant reminder of negative impact is a sense of wisdom, unless misunderstood, misjudged, or people in general are more immature today.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iPhone_7 08/05/19 11:29:13 PM #48:	EverDownward posted... So...artwork created by an immigrant that was meant to be a scathing critique against the first U.S. President is going to be destroyed for doing exactly what it intended to do? Yeup. F* that painting --- Sig User Logic https://imgur.com/lA5fm7w <cite>iPhone_7 posted [p:925682237] in Mural of G... [t:77910495]...</cite> <quote>EverDownward posted...</cite> <quote>So...artwork created by an immigrant that was meant to be a scathing critique against the first U.S. President is going to be destroyed for doing exactly what it intended to do?</quote> Yeup. F* that painting</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kensaimage 08/08/19 5:35:27 AM #50:	meestermj posted... We've gotten to a point where being "woke" and sensitive are more important than remembering history and honoring the people who founded our nation. Fucking pathetic. Weve become so weak and pathetic as a society that were retroactively editing historical paintings/monuments for being offensive in modern times. Were supposed to LEARN from the past. Not erase it. Morons these days have the concept backwards <cite>Kensaimage posted [p:925785703] in Mural of G... [t:77910495]...</cite> <quote>meestermj posted...</cite> <quote>We've gotten to a point where being "woke" and sensitive are more important than remembering history and honoring the people who founded our nation. Fucking pathetic.</quote> Weve become so weak and pathetic as a society that were retroactively editing historical paintings/monuments for being offensive in modern times. Were supposed to LEARN from the past. Not erase it. Morons these days have the concept backwards</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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