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ProtomanVolnutt
08/03/19 4:53:52 PM
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Do you? - Results (22 votes)
Yes
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No
36.36% (8 votes)
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Garioshi
08/03/19 4:54:15 PM
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Violence solves nothing.
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mooreandrew58
08/03/19 4:55:52 PM
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I dont support violence over mere words but if they get violent first yeah they deserve an ass kicking.
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Future_Ruins
08/03/19 4:56:37 PM
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I have a sticker of Richard Spencer getting punched in the face on the lid of my turn-table. I get to see it everytime I play records.
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SideshowBob311
08/03/19 4:57:08 PM
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The mentality of "It's ok to punch people who's ideas I don't like" is a very, very dangerous direction to go in.
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emblem boy
08/03/19 4:58:00 PM
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Na
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Lost_All_Senses
08/03/19 4:58:14 PM
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SideshowBob311 posted...
The mentality of "It's ok to punch people who's ideas I don't like" is a very, very dangerous direction to go in.


Hitler had an idea once.
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ThePhantomMedic
08/03/19 4:58:34 PM
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SideshowBob311 posted...
The mentality of "It's ok to punch people who's ideas I don't like" is a very, very dangerous direction to go in.


their supposed "ideas i dont like" are a very dangerous set of ideals to have. fuck look at the racial tension going on today. Shut the fuck up.
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QuantumTheory
08/03/19 4:58:55 PM
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For words that cause offence but dont incite violence - a fine.

For words that do incite violence - some jail time.

For racially motivated violence - lots of jail time.

The victim of racist words shouldnt respond with violence but should call the police instead.

Victims of violence have the right to fight back up to a certain point.
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ThanksUglyGod
08/03/19 4:59:22 PM
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Depends. Are they being racist AND committing a crime? Sure. Are they espousing racist ideas? Then no.
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averagejoel
08/03/19 5:00:26 PM
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SideshowBob311 posted...
The mentality of "It's ok to punch people who's ideas I don't like" is a very, very dangerous direction to go in.

it's significantly more dangerous to legitimize genocide as a political position, which you are doing by framing racism as "ideas I don't like"
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hyperpsycho
08/03/19 5:00:45 PM
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Annihilated
08/03/19 5:01:37 PM
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Who's calling them racist, and why?
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glitteringfairy
08/03/19 5:04:28 PM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
Hitler had an idea once.
Exactly. Instead of keeping it to just an idea he got violent with his idea.

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Paper_Okami
08/03/19 5:05:53 PM
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https://www.thewrap.com/18-best-richard-spencer-punch-in-the-face-remixes/

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SideshowBob311
08/03/19 5:06:32 PM
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ThePhantomMedic posted...
SideshowBob311 posted...
The mentality of "It's ok to punch people who's ideas I don't like" is a very, very dangerous direction to go in.


their supposed "ideas i dont like" are a very dangerous set of ideals to have. fuck look at the racial tension going on today. Shut the fuck up.


"I should be able to physically beat someone I disagree with" is a far more dangerous idea than anything a racist is saying.
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Funkydog
08/03/19 5:06:55 PM
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I ain't gonna feel bad for them, but I'm not sure it actually accomplishes anything really.
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averagejoel
08/03/19 5:08:16 PM
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SideshowBob311 posted...
ThePhantomMedic posted...
SideshowBob311 posted...
The mentality of "It's ok to punch people who's ideas I don't like" is a very, very dangerous direction to go in.


their supposed "ideas i dont like" are a very dangerous set of ideals to have. fuck look at the racial tension going on today. Shut the fuck up.


"I should be able to physically beat someone I disagree with" is a far more dangerous idea than anything a racist is saying.

then it's a good thing people aren't saying that
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Lost_All_Senses
08/03/19 5:09:21 PM
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glitteringfairy posted...
Lost_All_Senses posted...
Hitler had an idea once.
Exactly. Instead of keeping it to just an idea he got violent with his idea.


Im not sure where you're going with that.
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mooreandrew58
08/03/19 5:09:33 PM
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Annihilated posted...
Who's calling them racist, and why?


Thats part of the problem people get called racist for all sorts of dumb shit these days.

I mean if a guy is standing on a street corner saying all blacks should be killed then yeah I wouldnt really care if someone rearranged his jaw for him. Not gonna say a person should hit them I just wouldnt bat a eye if it did happen. But if someone just assumed a guy is racist cause hes talking shit about a particular person or group of people (as in like a handful of people not a whole race) then fuck no.
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk
08/03/19 5:09:55 PM
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Sure if they arrest the violent criminals for assault
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RamboCell29
08/03/19 5:16:33 PM
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No I don't support violence against others for racism (I am assuming verbal language, not Nazi esque genocide of ethnic groups).

But it doesn't hurt my feelings if an openly racist individual gets punched for being a racist jerk.
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EnvoyOfTheLight
08/03/19 5:20:23 PM
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SideshowBob311 posted...
The mentality of "It's ok to punch people who's ideas I don't like" is a very, very dangerous direction to go in.


The "x i don't like" logic never holds up to a real argument. It just ignores the "why" entirely, and equalizes all dislikes.

At best, you just haven't thought this through. At worst, you're just trying to deflect from things you yourself don't agree with.
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MrToothHasYou
08/03/19 5:23:51 PM
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Violence against Nazis and white supremacists, is good
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Hop103
08/03/19 5:24:34 PM
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Nope.
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Unsugarized_Foo
08/03/19 5:27:09 PM
#28:


Lost_All_Senses posted...
SideshowBob311 posted...
The mentality of "It's ok to punch people who's ideas I don't like" is a very, very dangerous direction to go in.


Hitler had an idea once.


His last idea was pretty good

But no, if someone's racism is affecting you, legal action usually leads to better benefit. Unless it's self-defense, that's fine
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Leanaunfurled
08/03/19 5:30:15 PM
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RamboCell29 posted...
No I don't support violence against others for racism (I am assuming verbal language, not Nazi esque genocide of ethnic groups).

But it doesn't hurt my feelings if an openly racist individual gets punched for being a racist jerk.

This exactly.
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Hexenherz
08/03/19 5:31:35 PM
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When it was that Richard Spencer guy who was a proven white supremacist I was OK with it. I was also OK with the guy who punched him getting charged for assault because it's obviously against the law to attack people.

But it's gotten to the point where people are beating up random people just because they "look" racist, and that's going too far. So yeah, it's time to dial that shit back.
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EnvoyOfTheLight
08/03/19 5:33:26 PM
#31:


Hexenherz posted...
When it was that Richard Spencer guy who was a proven white supremacist I was OK with it. I was also OK with the guy who punched him getting charged for assault because it's obviously against the law to attack people.

But it's gotten to the point where people are beating up random people just because they "look" racist, and that's going too far. So yeah, it's time to dial that shit back.


I'm not saying this is impossible, but the only time I saw this on the news, it ended up being a hoax. Guy hurt himself to have a story about how he was attacked for having a racist haircut.
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Lost_All_Senses
08/03/19 5:34:43 PM
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Unsugarized_Foo posted...
Lost_All_Senses posted...
SideshowBob311 posted...
The mentality of "It's ok to punch people who's ideas I don't like" is a very, very dangerous direction to go in.


Hitler had an idea once.


His last idea was pretty good

But no, if someone's racism is affecting you, legal action usually leads to better benefit. Unless it's self-defense, that's fine


Oh yeah, how could I forget our unbias completely non racist legal system. You're right.
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Unsugarized_Foo
08/03/19 5:37:54 PM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
Unsugarized_Foo posted...
Lost_All_Senses posted...
SideshowBob311 posted...
The mentality of "It's ok to punch people who's ideas I don't like" is a very, very dangerous direction to go in.


Hitler had an idea once.


His last idea was pretty good

But no, if someone's racism is affecting you, legal action usually leads to better benefit. Unless it's self-defense, that's fine


Oh yeah, how could I forget our unbias completely non racist legal system. You're right.


Oh yeah,I forgot that's never worked, like, ever
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Broseph_Stalin
08/03/19 5:40:54 PM
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people get in fights all the time for reasons way dumber than racism i'm not exactly gonna lose sleep over it
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EndOfDiscOne
08/03/19 5:41:16 PM
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How racist are we talking? What if its people who dont like white people?
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EnvoyOfTheLight
08/03/19 5:42:22 PM
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EndOfDiscOne posted...
How racist are we talking? What if its people who dont like white people?


Why single out white people? The subject is racists, not racists against specific races.
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Umbreon
08/03/19 5:43:12 PM
#37:


Garioshi posted...
Violence solves nothing.


That's a lie.

It's great when things can be solved without violence, but it absolutely can solve a problem.

Anyways

It's legally assault, but I don't feel bad for racists being punched. Of course, people should go around punching just any random person.

But there are some people out there who need a good smack.
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AlecSkorpio
08/03/19 5:43:16 PM
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I have a stance of violence should only be used when threatened with violence. So no.

But I'm also not going to get upset about it so
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Annihilated
08/03/19 5:44:01 PM
#39:


Hexenherz posted...
When it was that Richard Spencer guy who was a proven white supremacist I was OK with it. I was also OK with the guy who punched him getting charged for assault because it's obviously against the law to attack people.

But it's gotten to the point where people are beating up random people just because they "look" racist, and that's going too far. So yeah, it's time to dial that shit back.


Like I said before, the "why" is the real problem. Aside from the fact that violence doesn't solve problems of speech, it's necessary to protect the rights of speech even from racist scumbags to protect the rights of speech of everyone else. You can't just have people drawing arbitrary lines in the sand because inevitably you will find yourself standing on the other side.
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Lost_All_Senses
08/03/19 5:44:36 PM
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Unsugarized_Foo posted...
Lost_All_Senses posted...
Unsugarized_Foo posted...
Lost_All_Senses posted...
SideshowBob311 posted...
The mentality of "It's ok to punch people who's ideas I don't like" is a very, very dangerous direction to go in.


Hitler had an idea once.


His last idea was pretty good

But no, if someone's racism is affecting you, legal action usually leads to better benefit. Unless it's self-defense, that's fine


Oh yeah, how could I forget our unbias completely non racist legal system. You're right.


Oh yeah,I forgot that's never worked, like, ever


It works if you pay for it to work. Or maybe you just got the right look.
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Hexenherz
08/03/19 5:57:32 PM
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EnvoyOfTheLight posted...
Hexenherz posted...
When it was that Richard Spencer guy who was a proven white supremacist I was OK with it. I was also OK with the guy who punched him getting charged for assault because it's obviously against the law to attack people.

But it's gotten to the point where people are beating up random people just because they "look" racist, and that's going too far. So yeah, it's time to dial that shit back.


I'm not saying this is impossible, but the only time I saw this on the news, it ended up being a hoax. Guy hurt himself to have a story about how he was attacked for having a racist haircut.

The incident I was thinking of was the two Marine reservists who got jumped in Philly by people allegedly associated with Antifa.
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Blue_Dream87
08/03/19 6:07:32 PM
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I don't exactly condone violence, but if a dude is gonna drop some bombs on me or espouses some white nationalist/genocidal shit, I'm gonna throw a hand and I'll look the other way if anyone else does the same

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IShall_Run_Amok
08/03/19 6:14:08 PM
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"You shouldn't punch racists because you might accidentally punch a non-racist" makes about as much sense as "You shouldn't buy whiskey because you might accidentally buy Southern Comfort or James Foxe."

...this post is just an excuse to complain about Southern Comfort.
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QuantumTheory
08/03/19 6:17:26 PM
#45:


MrToothHasYou posted...
Violence against Nazis and white supremacists, is good


What about supremacists of any and all colours?
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industrializeit
08/03/19 6:18:47 PM
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Of course not, because lol everyone is racist these days. Specially the ones punching "racists". Try to not be brainwashed by social media and bias news, of any kind. Stupid fucking idiots of the world lol

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EndOfDiscOne
08/03/19 6:27:47 PM
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What about your typical old lady who clutches her purse when a black man walks by, is it okay to punch her
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manmouse
08/03/19 6:30:04 PM
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SideshowBob311 posted...
The mentality of "It's ok to punch people who's ideas I don't like" is a very, very dangerous direction to go in.
Ideas I dont like?

You mean like differences in favorite bands, the best way to mount the toilet paper roll, opinions on scary movies, which way to cut a sandwich?

Surely you wouldnt be the kind of person to conflate LIFE OR DEATH matters such as racism, antisemitism, islamophobia, and anti-immigration attitudes with simple disagreements of opinions and ideas.
I mean, I guess someone who truly sees racism as being benign and acceptable could possibly conflate it with trivial matters, but only a racist would see it that way.

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Laserion
08/03/19 6:32:43 PM
#49:


mooreandrew58 posted...
I don't support violence over mere words, but if they get violent first, yeah they deserve an ass-kicking.

I was going to say this. If the offense is verbal, you should be able to defend yourself verbally too.
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BruceWayneJr
08/03/19 6:33:39 PM
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hyperpsycho posted...
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