Current Events > Joe Rogan: I'm Not Right Wing, So Stop Saying It

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ThyCorndog posted...

rogan is for things like universal healthcare and gay rights and is pro immigration etc

but cause he likes guns and doesn't think transwomen should compete with ciswomen that means hes an alt right nazi

This pretty much, but especially the :45 mark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux2z8CFVEMg" data-time="

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joe rogan is a boring centrist douche but its funny to call him alt right because it upsets people honestly

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ultimate reaver posted...

joe rogan is a boring centrist douche but its funny to call him alt right because it upsets people honestly

reminds me of the mindstate of the people who voted for Trump just to "upset the Libs."

psyche examinations should be routine for some folk, lmao

I'm not saying it's the same thing, but it DOES come from the same place. which is what I am getting at.
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averagejoel posted...

joe rogan can't be right wing because he smoked weed one time

Dudes a wake n' baker.
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RickyTheBAWSE posted...

reminds me of the mindstate of the people who voted for Trump just to "upset the Libs."

psyche examinations should be routine for some folk, lmao

I'm not saying it's the same thing, but it DOES come from the same place. which is what I am getting at.

are you really comparing electing someone who is going to massively effect the day to day life of millions of people for years on end to trolling about a podcast host?

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ultimate reaver posted...

RickyTheBAWSE posted...

reminds me of the mindstate of the people who voted for Trump just to "upset the Libs."

psyche examinations should be routine for some folk, lmao

I'm not saying it's the same thing, but it DOES come from the same place. which is what I am getting at.

are you really comparing electing someone who is going to massively effect the day to day life of millions of people for years on end to trolling about a podcast host?

Jesus Christ... lmao. go sit in the corner.
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RickyTheBAWSE posted...

Jesus Christ... lmao. go sit in the corner.

i mean you can say you aren't comparing them, but when you immediately compare them above that statement it sort of rings hollow (and dumb)

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ultimate reaver posted...

RickyTheBAWSE posted...

Jesus Christ... lmao. go sit in the corner.

i mean you can say you aren't comparing them, but when you immediately compare them above that statement it sort of rings hollow (and dumb)

what's dumb is not understanding that literally anything can be compared. what's also dumb is not understanding that something being compared doesn't mean they equate.

what's intellectually dishonest and pathetic is making somebody explain something so elementary to you just because you're RUNNING from what the clear point was.

I don't know if you're just playing dumb, but I have no problem playing along and treating you like it.
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RickyTheBAWSE posted...

what's dumb is not understanding that literally anything can be compared. what's also dumb is not understanding that something being compared doesn't mean they equate.

what's intellectually dishonest and pathetic is making somebody explain something so elementary to you just because you're RUNNING from what the clear point was.

I don't know if you're just playing dumb, but I have no problem playing along and treating you like it.

anything being comparable doesn't really give adequate excuse to compare two things that aren't even in the slightest bit similar. you might as well have compared double parking to running someone down in a parking lot and said "geeze lmao people really need to learn how to drive"

but if you wanna be super protective about a missed shot like that be my guest, i don't want to make you feel bad or anything. live and let live.

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ultimate reaver posted...

RickyTheBAWSE posted...

what's dumb is not understanding that literally anything can be compared. what's also dumb is not understanding that something being compared doesn't mean they equate.

what's intellectually dishonest and pathetic is making somebody explain something so elementary to you just because you're RUNNING from what the clear point was.

I don't know if you're just playing dumb, but I have no problem playing along and treating you like it.

anything being comparable doesn't really give adequate excuse to compare two things that aren't even in the slightest bit similar. you might as well have compared double parking to running someone down in a parking lot and said "geeze lmao people really need to learn how to drive"

but if you wanna be super protective about a missed shot like that be my guest, i don't want to make you feel bad or anything. live and let live.

pointing out that doing petty things for the purpose of just upsetting people comes from a place that extends to other things (like voting) shouldn't be all that confusing. if the shoe fits, wear it. no need to use ad hominem, lol.

just wear it.

they come from the same place in the mind.
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RickyTheBAWSE posted...

pointing out that doing petty things for the purpose of just upsetting people comes from a place that extends to other things (like voting) shouldn't be all that confusing. if the shoe fits, wear it. no need to use ad hominem, lol.

just wear it.

they come from the same place in the mind.

so not only can you not make good comparisons but you tell people they need to get psych examinations and when they bite back you try to pretend it's a debate and tell them to back off ad homs lol

idk why you're getting so weird about this dude

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ultimate reaver posted...

RickyTheBAWSE posted...

pointing out that doing petty things for the purpose of just upsetting people comes from a place that extends to other things (like voting) shouldn't be all that confusing. if the shoe fits, wear it. no need to use ad hominem, lol.

just wear it.

they come from the same place in the mind.

so not only can you not make good comparisons but you tell people they need to get psych examinations and when they bite back you try to pretend it's a debate and tell them to back off ad homs lol

idk why you're getting so weird about this dude

pointing out that there is something mentally off about people who opperate with the sole purpose of upsetting people is.. weird? lolololol
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RickyTheBAWSE posted...

pointing out that there is something mentally off about people who opperate with the sole purpose of upsetting people is.. weird? lolololol

idk what you're trying to accomplish and you just look really embarrassed so im gonna let you do your thing. have a nice day man

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ultimate reaver posted...

RickyTheBAWSE posted...

pointing out that there is something mentally off about people who opperate with the sole purpose of upsetting people is.. weird? lolololol

idk what you're trying to accomplish and you just look really embarrassed so im gonna let you do your thing. have a nice day man

I accomplished pointing out that you exposed your affinity for douchey behavior, lol

"heehee, I take pleasure in pissing people off just because."

I mostly just like pointing shit out. and it applied to your character so well that you resorted to playing dumb when called out, lmao. but thanks, my day has been great so far. so much amusement.
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RickyTheBAWSE posted...

pointing out that doing petty things for the purpose of just upsetting people comes from a place that extends to other things (like voting) shouldn't be all that confusing. if the shoe fits, wear it. no need to use ad hominem, lol.

just wear it.

they come from the same place in the mind.

regardless of whether or not that's true, they have very different effects in reality. which is why people take issue with the analogy in the first place

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Joe lets people talk, even people he disagrees with. I can see how some liberals assume that's right wing.

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He is right wing, just not alt-right.

Oh many many conservatives smoke weed now. I know quite a few.
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He's probably a centrist
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averagejoel posted...

joe rogan can't be right wing because he smoked weed one time

You think Bernie Sanders is conservative

Bernie Sanders is center right
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Imagine a world where people are allowed to define their own gender for themselves but not their political orientation

If the guy says he's not right wing he's not fucking right wing

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EndOfDiscOne posted...

Bernie Sanders is center right

You know I haven't heard people say this until he went on Rogan's podcast.

It's amazing. The left is moving so exponentially fast to the left that no one will be on the left except for the person talking.

EndOfDiscOne posted...

Bernie Sanders is center right

lol
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MichaelKaySeeYa posted...

You think Bernie Sanders is conservative

I've said that he's "barely left of center", which is true

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averagejoel posted...

MichaelKaySeeYa posted...

You think Bernie Sanders is conservative

I've said that he's "barely left of center", which is true

And you also said he wasn't a liberal.

untrustful posted...

Alt right people always have this problem where they say they aren't alt right, but then you see them hanging around with alt right personalities and defend alt right talking points.

It's like when fox news looked at graffiti that said "no fascist usa" and immediately discerned the graffiti was about Trump.

https://twitter.com/foxnews/status/827032555790680064?lang=en

Like, you've already given away your game and game plan. Doesn't matter if you support legal immigration, or healthcare, or whatever liberal positions. If you think the left is too left, you're voting republican, and republicans don't support things like healthcare or legal immigration.

@averagejoel posted...

RickyTheBAWSE posted...

pointing out that doing petty things for the purpose of just upsetting people comes from a place that extends to other things (like voting) shouldn't be all that confusing. if the shoe fits, wear it. no need to use ad hominem, lol.

just wear it.

they come from the same place in the mind.

regardless of whether or not that's true, they have very different effects in reality. which is why people take issue with the analogy in the first place

doesn't matter. feelings are not a green light to handwave a valid point, and the point is that both examples come from the SAME place in the mind. people who routinely do petty, spiteful things for the sole purpose of pissing people off should check themselves. that behavior DOES spread to other shit, and there is no defending that, lol.

a hit dog hollering isn't an excuse or opportunity to evade the valid and historically proven point.

I have seen people on CE who use these troll tactics also admit to voting to piss off the Libs, so again... fuck them feelings lol.
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the annie chick he had on earlier was pretty cute. watched that ep last night
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He's just a conviction-less podcast host. 9/10 he just agrees or does a "wow that makes sense" thing when his guests speak. It could be some crazy right wing person or crazy left wing person and he'll just tell them they made an interesting point and keep the conversation going. The only thing he actually fights back on is weed and there was only like 1 guy who disagreed with him on that.
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This thread has brain damage

RickyTheBAWSE posted...

doesn't matter. feelings are not a green light to handwave a valid point

I wasn't talking about feelings though, and I don't think the point is valid

both examples come from the SAME place in the mind.

again, I don't care about whether or not this is true. they have very different effects in reality, which is why people don't think the comparison is a valid one.

people who routinely do petty, spiteful things for the sole purpose of pissing people off should check themselves.

saying "Joe Rogan is alt-right" on a message board is a different order of magnitude than voting for someone who ran on a platform of xenophobia though.

that behavior DOES spread to other shit, and there is no defending that, lol.

assuming for a second that your comparison is a valid one (and again, I don't think it is), it would be the person's state of mind that is causing the behavior. it wouldn't actually be the behavior spreading; it would be the state of mind spreading and causing the behavior.

a hit dog hollering isn't an excuse or opportunity to evade the valid and historically proven point.

what evidence do you have that it's actually valid? where has it historically been proven?

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averagejoel posted...

RickyTheBAWSE posted...

doesn't matter. feelings are not a green light to handwave a valid point

I wasn't talking about feelings though, and I don't think the point is valid

both examples come from the SAME place in the mind.

again, I don't care about whether or not this is true. they have very different effects in reality, which is why people don't think the comparison is a valid one.

people who routinely do petty, spiteful things for the sole purpose of pissing people off should check themselves.

saying "Joe Rogan is alt-right" on a message board is a different order of magnitude than voting for someone who ran on a platform of xenophobia though.

that behavior DOES spread to other shit, and there is no defending that, lol.

assuming for a second that your comparison is a valid one (and again, I don't think it is), it would be the person's state of mind that is causing the behavior. it wouldn't actually be the behavior spreading; it would be the state of mind spreading and causing the behavior.

a hit dog hollering isn't an excuse or opportunity to evade the valid and historically proven point.

what evidence do you have that it's actually valid? where has it historically been proven?

my argument is NOT about magnitude. discard all of that shit that was clearly not the point. ANYTHING can be compared. moot point.

are you so socially inexperienced that you REALLY need proof of these people existing?

if I do provide examples, will you concede or will I simply be wasting my time because you're just going to default back to square one?
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You're arguing with somebody who called Bernie Sanders a conservative.

I mean I understand why someone would call Bernie center left, because on an absolute scale that would be the case with the Democrats in general being center right. because left can be conflated with socialist and right with capitalist. but I don't think that's very useful when talking about American politics cause then everything is right wingers vs right wingers and it all becomes hard to talk about without confusing everyone
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that's what happens when people focus on the rhetoric from feelings and less on substantial facts.

people who prioritize their feelings before facts find their comfort to be the main objective, lol. so the conversations just loop instead of progressing to the next phase.

one of the things I appreciate about Rogan is that he at least doesn't try to misconstrue what is being told to him. he may not always know what to say, but he won't play dumb when somebody is being sincere, and he'll respond as logically as he can.
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RickyTheBAWSE posted...

my argument is NOT about magnitude. discard all of that shit that was clearly not the point. ANYTHING can be compared. moot point.

that doesn't make the comparison a valid one

are you so socially inexperienced that you REALLY need proof of these people existing?

no. that wasn't my point. I was asking for evidence that they come from the same place in the mind.

if I do provide examples, will you concede or will I simply be wasting my time because you're just going to default back to square one?

sure. show me evidence that they come from the same place in the mind and I'll concede that they do. it's irrelevant to my idea that it's not a valid comparison though

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People here argue the most petty things to try to sway some anon in matters that affect no one.

It's quite a sight to behold.
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creativerealms posted...

He is right wing, just not alt-right.

Oh many many conservatives smoke weed now. I know quite a few.

Lmao

MichaelKaySeeYa posted...

You're arguing with somebody who called Bernie Sanders a conservative.

Lmfao

But its joel, he is an establishment lapdog so i believe it
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@averagejoel

your opinion doesn't invalidate anything, lol. you don't have to like what I'm saying, but you're definitely not the gatekeeper on what's valid. you're not even saying anything but "nuh uh,". how about you put in the effort that you're asking for? I'd like some evidence that spite/pettiness doesn't leak out to other shit.

proof that spite/pettiness leaks out into other things:

Donald Trump

Obama hurt his feelings. since then Trump has pushed the rhetoric that he's isn't American, tries stripping him of his Christian identity by suggesting that he's Muslim, he repealed the ACA(and other Obama era policies), removed the MLK bust and went for the Winston Churchill, etc...

proof that the spite people have leaks out into OTHER things. are you going to concede now or move the goal post?
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krazychao5 posted...

People here argue the most petty things to try to sway some anon in matters that affect no one.

It's quite a sight to behold.

you mean like grasping at straws in an impotent attempt to discredit an entire argument? normal lol
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averagejoel posted...

MichaelKaySeeYa posted...

You think Bernie Sanders is conservative

I've said that he's "barely left of center", which is true

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Rogan just gives a platform to anybody.

He does have a severe tendency to flip flop on key opinions depending on the guest though so I can see people saying that.
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RickyTheBAWSE posted...

your opinion doesn't invalidate anything, lol. you don't have to like what I'm saying, but you're definitely not the gatekeeper on what's valid. you're not even saying anything but "nuh uh,". how about you put in the effort that you're asking for? I'd like some evidence that spite/pettiness doesn't leak out to other shit.

I never said I was the gatekeeper on validity. and I gave a reason for why I don't consider it a valid comparison. you just chose to ignore it.

proof that spite/pettiness leaks out into other things:

that is not what I was asking for

Obama hurt his feelings. since then Trump has pushed the rhetoric that he's isn't American, tries stripping him of his Christian identity by suggesting that he's Muslim, he repealed the ACA(and other Obama era policies), removed the MLK bust and went for the Winston Churchill, etc...

proof that the spite people have leaks out into OTHER things. are you going to concede now or move the goal post?

that isn't what I asked for. spite leaking out into other things is completely irrelevant to the evidence that I asked for. I do not care if sprite "leaks out into other things"

even if I did, I don't think all those things were done exclusively out of spite.

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averagejoel posted...

RickyTheBAWSE posted...

your opinion doesn't invalidate anything, lol. you don't have to like what I'm saying, but you're definitely not the gatekeeper on what's valid. you're not even saying anything but "nuh uh,". how about you put in the effort that you're asking for? I'd like some evidence that spite/pettiness doesn't leak out to other shit.

I never said I was the gatekeeper on validity. and I gave a reason for why I don't consider it a valid comparison. you just chose to ignore it.

proof that spite/pettiness leaks out into other things:

that is not what I was asking for

Obama hurt his feelings. since then Trump has pushed the rhetoric that he's isn't American, tries stripping him of his Christian identity by suggesting that he's Muslim, he repealed the ACA(and other Obama era policies), removed the MLK bust and went for the Winston Churchill, etc...

proof that the spite people have leaks out into OTHER things. are you going to concede now or move the goal post?

that isn't what I asked for. spite leaking out into other things is completely irrelevant to the evidence that I asked for. I do not care if sprite "leaks out into other things"

even if I did, I don't think all those things were done exclusively out of spite.

What are you asking for? You're like a whining kid looking for a snack, but not liking the carrots given to him.
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krazychao5 posted...

What are you asking for?

averagejoel posted...

show me evidence that they come from the same place in the mind and I'll concede that they do.

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I never said I was the gatekeeper on validity

Oh?