Current Events > Once Upon a Time in.... Hollywood...... It didn't have a PLOT *spoilers*

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good movie tough

i wouldn't watch it if youre not a fan of his movies though
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It didn't have a plot yes.

And since I think plots are essential for movies, it's IMO a bad movie.
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joe40001 posted...

It didn't have a plot yes.

And since I think plots are essential for movies, it's IMO a bad movie.

Yeah dont know what to make of the movie

The 3rd act was good though

Felt like a different Quentin Tarantino movie
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It wasn't bad. It wasn't great either. I had a pretty good idea of what to expect from a Quentin Tarantino movie. IMO he has 2 types of movies. A crazy journey all through the movie or a slog fest with an entertaining ending.

My movie experience was pretty funny though. I was off work the entire week and it was a rainy day, that was the only reason i went to see it. Saw the first showing opening week at 11am on a weekday. I was the only person in the theater under 60 and it was pretty packed.

The older people seemed to enjoy the movie for the first 2 hours. I'm guessing a lot of this crowd didnt know how a Tarantino movie could be... The utter disgust at the end of the movie was very noticeable from the elderly crowd.
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Bruce Lee getting beat up and being a jerk. QT yeah.. that is how he sees people .
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I loved it, far more than anything else he's done in the past 10 or so years.

I get why a lot of people don't, especially younger people who don't know shit about Sharon Tate or have been raised on Marvel films.
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Loved it, saw it twice, a great movie
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it did have a plot. it was just subtle. the movie was character-focused instead. i really liked it.
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KillerSlaw posted...

I loved it, far more than anything else he's done in the past 10 or so years.

I get why a lot of people don't, especially younger people who don't know shit about Sharon Tate or have been raised on Marvel films.

Or people could not like seeing real people made into caricatures .
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didnt see the movie yet but might this weekend. is it like pulp fiction where the appeal is really the individual scenes but there is shit to tie it together?

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the hateful eight was waaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better while being just as slow paced

Amazing how tension, good dialogue, interesting standout characters and character conflict can make such a difference

cjsdowg posted...

Bruce Lee getting beat up and being a jerk. QT yeah.. that is how he sees people .

You completely missed the point of that scene lol
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What a fantastic movie. Not much of a plot, yeah, but when everything else is great, it doesn't need one.

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I definitely enjoyed it. I would put it on the lower end of Tarantino films though.
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Smashingpmkns posted...

You completely missed the point of that scene lol

So what was the point of it .. LOL
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Pulp Fiction didn't really have a plot either, it was just a bunch of stories from different perspectives at different points in time, but it was still awesome >_>
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Hail caesar didn't either
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Enjoyed the characters. Two dudes at the end of their careers handling it it in two totally different ways.
The scene with Cliff on his boat in the Scuba suit had me laughing pretty good. I think I was the only one in the theater who found it funny.
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Another masterpiece from QT tbh
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So Im reading the criticisms about the film (Bruce lee, portraying of women in the movie, violence) and holy shit do adults not know the difference between movies and real life?

Are writers and directors not allowed to make films however they want? Apparently theres some sort of check list thats needs to be adhered too (eg. have enough women in your film, no violence, not bad language, protray all types of cultures and races in your film equally)

Arggghh makes me mad

Just enjoy this film for what it is
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jeffhardyb0yz posted...

KillerSlaw posted...

I loved it, far more than anything else he's done in the past 10 or so years.

I get why a lot of people don't, especially younger people who don't know shit about Sharon Tate or have been raised on Marvel films.

har har too bad Infinity War is a better movie

Aren't you the guy that actually works in film?

lmfao

My post wasn't meant to be an insult, btw. I truly do understand why people wouldn't like it if they're used to the type of film that has been prevalent for the past ten years, popularized by Marvel.
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the dialogue was pretty plain and dry for a QT film, that has to be said too

in past movies even when the plot isn't going the dialogue keeps you engaged, here not so much

Yeah, this one was definitely pretty different. It doesn't cater to as wide an audience as. A lot of things are lost on those who aren't familiar with Tate and the Manson murders. They're not going in with the same expectations as others are, so when the 3rd act comes in and everything is subverted for them it isn't. Or the scenes with Margot Robbie might seem useless or out of place, but they're meant to continue building those expectations that it wants to subvert.

Again, all of that means Jack shit if you don't know about or care about Sharon Tate, Manson, Hollywood, the 60s, etc. This very much seems like a Movie that QT made for himself tbh.
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I think people are used to QTs chapters and back-and-forth storytelling, whereas once upon a time is really straight forward storytelling

I think a few days after seeing it, Im liking it more, will have to go in again to rewatch it
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Dude, Pulp Fiction for the most part didnt really have much of a "plot" as well, but most of us still love it.
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SaccharineSmile posted...

Are writers and directors not allowed to make films however they want? Apparently theres some sort of check list thats needs to be adhered too (eg. have enough women in your film, no violence, not bad language, protray all types of cultures and races in your film equally)

Arggghh makes me mad

Just enjoy this film for what it is

You can make what ever the hell you want. Just like people can call out bullshit when they see it .
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Prestoff posted...

Dude, Pulp Fiction for the most part didnt really have much of a "plot" as well, but most of us still love it.

Had more interesting characters and dialogue, just like the hateful eight

Once upon a time just doesnt have much of that

Pulp fiction has way more of a plot
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It was more a collection of scenes if anything.

Cliff was the absolute best part. The Manson family getting murdered instead of Sharon and her friends was amazing.
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SaccharineSmile posted...

So Im reading the criticisms about the film (Bruce lee, portraying of women in the movie, violence) and holy shit do adults not know the difference between movies and real life?

Are writers and directors not allowed to make films however they want? Apparently theres some sort of check list thats needs to be adhered too (eg. have enough women in your film, no violence, not bad language, protray all types of cultures and races in your film equally)

Arggghh makes me mad

Just enjoy this film for what it is

Who said writers and directors aren't allowed to do what they want?
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scar the 1 posted...

SaccharineSmile posted...

So Im reading the criticisms about the film (Bruce lee, portraying of women in the movie, violence) and holy shit do adults not know the difference between movies and real life?

Are writers and directors not allowed to make films however they want? Apparently theres some sort of check list thats needs to be adhered too (eg. have enough women in your film, no violence, not bad language, protray all types of cultures and races in your film equally)

Arggghh makes me mad

Just enjoy this film for what it is

Who said writers and directors aren't allowed to do what they want?

A lot of people are mad Bruce Lee isn't portrayed as infallible

AlphaCuck posted...

A lot of people are mad Bruce Lee isn't portrayed as infallible

No they are that he is portrayed as caricature of himself and gets beat up and out martial arts by someone dude who should not know any.
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cjsdowg posted...

AlphaCuck posted...

A lot of people are mad Bruce Lee isn't portrayed as infallible

No they are that he is portrayed as caricature of himself and gets beat up and out martial arts by someone dude who should not know any.

Pretty sure that whole sequence took place in brad pitt's mind
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joe40001 posted...

cjsdowg posted...

AlphaCuck posted...

A lot of people are mad Bruce Lee isn't portrayed as infallible

No they are that he is portrayed as caricature of himself and gets beat up and out martial arts by someone dude who should not know any.

Pretty sure that whole sequence took place in brad pitt's mind

Yeah, as a flashback. Shit happened. That's why he wasn't with Dalton and had to stay back. Because of that incident.

Also, lmao at saying Cliff shouldn't have known how to fight. He's a fictitious character. He knows whatever and is capable of whatever the writing of his character provides. Bruce Lee wasn't some untouchable god. The point is moot since it's not like he had Lee on his heels either. Lee was caught off guard and got tossed trying to do the same shit he did the first round. It wasn't the beatdown you make it seem to be.
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SailorGoon posted...

joe40001 posted...

cjsdowg posted...

AlphaCuck posted...

A lot of people are mad Bruce Lee isn't portrayed as infallible

No they are that he is portrayed as caricature of himself and gets beat up and out martial arts by someone dude who should not know any.

Pretty sure that whole sequence took place in brad pitt's mind

Yeah, as a flashback. Shit happened. That's why he wasn't with Dalton and had to stay back. Because of that incident.

Also, lmao at saying Cliff shouldn't have known how to fight. He's a fictitious character. He knows whatever and is capable of whatever the writing of his character provides. Bruce Lee wasn't some untouchable god. The point is moot since it's not like he had Lee on his heels either. Lee was caught off guard and got tossed trying to do the same shit he did the first round. It wasn't the beatdown you make it seem to be.

Seemed more to me like he was playing out what would happen if he pushed more on Leo's character to let him on set
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Quentin Tarantino:

"Brad would not be able to beat up Bruce Lee, but Cliff maybe could. If you ask me the question, 'Who would win in a fight: Bruce Lee or Dracula?' Its the same question. It's a fictional character. If I say Cliff can beat Bruce Lee up, he's a fictional character so he could beat Bruce Lee up."

"The reality of the situation is this: Cliff is a Green Beret He has killed many men in WWII in hand-to-hand combat. What Bruce Lee is talking about in the whole thing is that he admires warriors. He admires combat, and boxing is a closer approximation of combat as a sport. Cliff is not part of the sport that is like combat, he is a warrior. He is a combat person.
If Cliff were fighting Bruce Lee in a martial arts tournament in Madison Square Garden, Bruce would kill him. But if Cliff and Bruce were fighting in the jungles of the Philippines in a hand-to-hand combat fight, Cliff would kill him."

https://birthmoviesdeath.com/2019/08/13/quentin-tarantino-bruce-lee

All of Tarantino's movies have no plot
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SailorGoon posted...

joe40001 posted...

cjsdowg posted...

AlphaCuck posted...

A lot of people are mad Bruce Lee isn't portrayed as infallible

No they are that he is portrayed as caricature of himself and gets beat up and out martial arts by someone dude who should not know any.

Pretty sure that whole sequence took place in brad pitt's mind

Yeah, as a flashback. Shit happened. That's why he wasn't with Dalton and had to stay back. Because of that incident.

Also, lmao at saying Cliff shouldn't have known how to fight. He's a fictitious character. He knows whatever and is capable of whatever the writing of his character provides. Bruce Lee wasn't some untouchable god. The point is moot since it's not like he had Lee on his heels either. Lee was caught off guard and got tossed trying to do the same shit he did the first round. It wasn't the beatdown you make it seem to be.

So within this world, a Western character masted a Eastern art before it was brought to the West. Dude dented a car with Lee.
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cjsdowg posted...

SailorGoon posted...

joe40001 posted...

cjsdowg posted...

AlphaCuck posted...

A lot of people are mad Bruce Lee isn't portrayed as infallible

No they are that he is portrayed as caricature of himself and gets beat up and out martial arts by someone dude who should not know any.

Pretty sure that whole sequence took place in brad pitt's mind

Yeah, as a flashback. Shit happened. That's why he wasn't with Dalton and had to stay back. Because of that incident.

Also, lmao at saying Cliff shouldn't have known how to fight. He's a fictitious character. He knows whatever and is capable of whatever the writing of his character provides. Bruce Lee wasn't some untouchable god. The point is moot since it's not like he had Lee on his heels either. Lee was caught off guard and got tossed trying to do the same shit he did the first round. It wasn't the beatdown you make it seem to be.

So within this world, a Western character masted a Eastern art before it was brought to the West. Dude dented a car with Lee.

Who the heck said he mastered an Eastern Martial Art? See post #38 mang. He knows how to fight his own way. There's no fighting style that trumps all.

As for the car denting.
1. It's a movie. You've got people getting mauled in the nuts and fucking flame throwers and shit.
2. This was in the 60s. I don't think cars back then had the same safety ratings they have now. These days you'll get dents from a shopping cart.
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Yeah I hate how this movie will now be remembered for the Bruce lee scene

People just love to complain about nothing really

Its a movie, the scene can been seen as a parody, nobody really cared about parodies or representations of real life people that were incorrect in movies before so why now
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Complaining about the realism of a fight scene in a film where Sharon Tate lives and the Manson family gets mauled and torched to a crisp. Wut?
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I LOVED it.
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SaccharineSmile posted...

Yeah I hate how this movie will now be remembered for the Bruce lee scene

People just love to complain about nothing really

Its a movie, the scene can been seen as a parody, nobody really cared about parodies or representations of real life people that were incorrect in movies before so why now

Lee fought his whole life to not be made into the stereotype that the West normally made Asian actors . This movie makes him to the that very stereotype and is easily dispatched by the strong Westerner. Just another minority that a Westerner was able to put in his place.

It is funny how people don't see anything wrong with that.
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The plot is Rick's career. If you don't know who sharon tate is you miss the point of the movie

Like...

cjsdowg posted...

Bruce Lee getting beat up and being a jerk. QT yeah.. that is how he sees people .

It's almost like people forgot what the title of the movie is. And Bruce didn't come across as a jerk, arrogant, yea jerk no.
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Definitely has a plot. It's about how a former B-list actor (and his stuntman) deals with the end of his career at a time when Hollywood was undergoing a major transformation.

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I thought it was pretty lame and knew about Manson and Tate.

It just wasn't very entertaining and seemed to rely on repeating the same "twist" that Inglorious Basterds did.
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The Lee scene was a memory that Brad Pitt's character was having when he was repairing the TV antenna. It's how he chose to remember it, so we can assume it's not accurate (hence the crazy dent in the car).

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The Admiral posted...

The Lee scene was a memory that Brad Pitt's character was having when he was repairing the TV antenna. It's how he chose to remember it, so we can assume it's not accurate (hence the crazy dent in the car).

Also if it was his memory why did parts of it take place and not at all involve him? How could he remember an argument Leo had that he wasn't involved with?
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Saw it last night and it seems I'm lacking some type of background information because I didn't really get it
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