Current Events > Do people still haggle at the dealership?

(+) Yeah! (+)

I never hear about it anymore

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Yes
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Yes
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Yes, though at a real dealership you shouldn't need to do it more than a couple times to get close to the price you want, and it shouldn't take you all day, either.
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sticker price is sucker price

We went to more a local dealer and they wouldnt haggle at all and we even left. But its still way under the normal asking price

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I got 10% knocked off my vehicle by haggling.

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darkprince45 posted...

We went to more a local dealer and they wouldnt haggle at all and we even left. But its still way under the normal asking price

Depends on the dealership a lot of times. Some of them are pretty straightforward and don't do the haggling game, the price they offer is close to the lowest they would be willing to go and you can look at the sales order to see it (though I guess they could have a fake sales order but that seems... illegal or unethical and too much work).
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meestermj posted...

I got 10% knocked off my vehicle by haggling.

Still paid 40% more that actual price
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I plan to buy a new Mercedes C43 sometime in the future, and I plan on going to 3 different dealerships and making them play the lowest offer game.

And then once they finally agree to give me the lowest price - i'll threaten to walk out if I dont get free mats.
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Fenrimis posted...

I plan to buy a new Mercedes C43 sometime in the future, and I plan on going to 3 different dealerships and making them play the lowest offer game.

And then once they finally agree to give me the lowest price - i'll threaten to walk out if I dont get free mats.

Where do people get the energy for this shit

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REMercsChamp posted...

Fenrimis posted...

I plan to buy a new Mercedes C43 sometime in the future, and I plan on going to 3 different dealerships and making them play the lowest offer game.

And then once they finally agree to give me the lowest price - i'll threaten to walk out if I dont get free mats.

Where do people get the energy for this shit

People who want to save money
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Fenrimis posted...

I plan to buy a new Mercedes C43 sometime in the future, and I plan on going to 3 different dealerships and making them play the lowest offer game.

And then once they finally agree to give me the lowest price - i'll threaten to walk out if I dont get free mats.

I did that. Took about 4 days total. Now I get something just off lease at Carmax. They have good prices and I like the no-haggle policy.
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CADE FOSTER posted...

Still paid 40% more that actual price

Nah. Was at a used dealership, and the car was very undervalued.

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Haven't bought a car in a while (thanks honda! for reliable cars) but when I get it serviced I do hear negotiations. the old school "lemme talk to my manager" deal where he goes to the back room and they're like "just pretend like we're talking about prices hahaha" and then comes back and says no go.
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Sure, but dealerships these days usually screw you through the financing on your vehicle rather than the price they quote you

Best way to get around that is to pay cash. Financing a depreciating asset is a sucker move
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A new car should have a singular price. Dealer markups and allotment bullshit on new cars (ie- being double the price on some cars) shouldn't be legal.

It's a shame Telsa is so anticonsmer, I liked their distro model.
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my uncle haggles the prices of his new cars and my cousins bring him to haggle for theirs. thing is... he buys the cars cash-iers check. well, not financed and paid in full when hes done at the dealership.

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HBOSS posted...

my uncle haggles the prices of his new cars and my cousins bring him to haggle for theirs. thing is... he buys the cars cash-iers check. well, not financed and paid in full when hes done at the dealership.

I used to think this was the way to go, however it's smarter to not tie your money up in the car all at once, make your money work for you while you pay smaller installments.

Hell, even sticking the money in a savings account gaining 3% interest will net you more money in the long run as long as your credit is decent and you can get a good loan.
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I've talked to used car dealership owners and they tell me that they almost always break even on down payments. If the customer even pays their financing at all, it's profit.
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My favorite was how, back in 2016, there was a 2015 Passat that was listed for $15,000+. It already had 30k miles on it (was a rental vehicle in a previous life). Talked them down to 13,035 and then talked them down to an even 13,000.

That dealership was a pain in the ass though, they didn't understand how registration in other states worked so they changed my address and took forever to get my plates.
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You should always be asking for a deal/discount whenever you spend significant money on anything.

StealthRock posted...

REMercsChamp posted...

Fenrimis posted...

I plan to buy a new Mercedes C43 sometime in the future, and I plan on going to 3 different dealerships and making them play the lowest offer game.

And then once they finally agree to give me the lowest price - i'll threaten to walk out if I dont get free mats.

Where do people get the energy for this shit

People who want to save money

They could just switch to Geico
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Yes, i did it through email for my f150 lol
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Dunno if it's still around, but those that want a new car could save a lot of bullcrap by going through Costco. The other nice benefit of that route is that you never set foot in the sales area. You instead deal directly with the Fleet Manager. Otherwise, as mentioned, sales folks will try to sneak in financing, 'insurances' and other charges at the last second.
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Costco sells cars? Cash is the best way to go. At least you can really negotiate with cash and the depreciation will take a while to hit the price you paid for if you negotiated right.

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SauI_Goodman posted...

Haven't bought a car in a while (thanks honda! for reliable cars) but when I get it serviced I do hear negotiations. the old school "lemme talk to my manager" deal where he goes to the back room and they're like "just pretend like we're talking about prices hahaha" and then comes back and says no go.

This happened when I bought my truck and I asked the salesman if the manager could come out so I could talk to them directly and make a deal since the manager was calling the shots. The sales guy started babbling about the manager being busy etc etc. so then I said okay well nows your chance to make a deal and show the manager that youre a go getter.

Sometimes acting like a complete moron is more effective than trying to be a hard ass. It came pretty naturally to me and since I was never gonna see that guy again I had no issue staying a hour and a half after they closed to keep going back and forth. I think he was so sick of me that he just said fuck it. He kept commenting about how he was getting a cold and how his wife was gonna kill him for being at work so late.
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i did when i bought my last car, which was 11 years ago! damn. time flies.

i basically got preapproved for a loan through my bank and then used it as leverage to negotiate down (dealers want you to use their financing)

it wasnt a huge cut but it basically covered the cost of warranty and i got free maint. for the life of the warranty.
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fenderbender321 posted...

I dont get how to haggle

"I only want to pay $300 a month"

"The best I can do is $340"

"Okay I cant afford that. Sorry"

"Let me talk to my manager"

Comes back

"My manager says we can't go any lower"

"Okay"

you gotta know when to hold em
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Just steal the car and you won't have this problem

Yes but there are some dealerships that don't haggle. CarMax is one of them that I know of.

What's bad is when you not only have to haggle the price of the car you are buying, but also the value of your trade in.
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fenderbender321 posted...

I dont get how to haggle

"I only want to pay $300 a month"

"The best I can do is $340"

"Okay I cant afford that. Sorry"

"Let me talk to my manager"

Comes back

"My manager says we can't go any lower"

"Okay"

You're not haggling the monthly payment, because the monthly payment is based on the total loan amount, the duration of the loan and the interest rate (which is based heavily on your credit score and the duration of the loan).

It's really just the total cost of the car.

What it boils down to in my opinion is figuring out which car you want, figure out the average value of a car in that condition, figure out your bottom line (be reasonable). It helps to have multiple options and not be set on one car specifically.

When you go to the dealership, don't go alone, take a friend or two. Don't engage in BS games with the dealer (the second they say, "Oh that's the Special Online Price you can only get that if you printed the listing out!" or "We can negotiate the price once you fill out this form with your number, address, e-mail address" just walk away because those dealerships are just there to play games and take advantage of people).

When you're testing the car out, test *everything* - AC, heater, heated seats, windows, radio, power outlets/lighters. Look at the engine. Look for damage to the seats or missing details inside, etc.

After the test drive you just have to be a little cool, collected and patient. Tell them a cost that's close to what your desired limit is, when they counter-offer tell them you'll think about it and go sit in the car a little bit, or maybe tell them you'll come back later to check it out. When you return, tell them you'd take it if they took the processing fee off. They'll say they can't, but you can suggest they deduct that amount from the final cost. And... that's about it.

Some dealerships will show you the purchase order for the car so you can see what they actually paid for it. Don't know if those are always legitimate but it's still something to consider, sometimes they just won't go too far negative.

And if you're able to pay in cash you can talk the cost down even lower if you suggest you have a terrible credit history and are probably going to finance through them (if you don't mind stretching the truth a little bit >_>). Also not guaranteed but worth a shot sometimes.
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Damn_Underscore posted...

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Do people still buy new cars?
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Haggling in modern times is basically just countering their jacked up price with one you researched that is as close to cost as possible with them still making a profit

SiO4 posted...

Damn_Underscore posted...

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lmfao

FrankGoreHOF posted...

Do people still buy new cars?

You can and should talk down used car prices, too.
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FrankGoreHOF posted...

Do people still buy new cars?

Don't people haggle over lease agreements also? Most of the "due at signing" amounts I see advertised are outrageous.
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Me: I'll pay X amount in amount in cash out the door (after my trade in) for the Crosstrek or I'm going to go across the street to Nissan and buy that Rogue with similar features they offered me for X amount.
Dealer: But...We're already giving you several discounts...
Me: ok have a good day *Gets up to leave*
Dealer: Let me talk my manager and see what I can do.

10 minutes later, lo and behold I bought a brand new 19 Crosstrek for the price I was after.

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I can knock $100 dollars off of that true coat.
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Have you guys considered buying cars you can afford instead of spending all that time and energy trying to rip the dealership off?

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REMercsChamp posted...

Have you guys considered buying cars you can afford instead of spending all that time and energy trying to rip the dealership off?

It's all about *looks at the bottom of the post*

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