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HylianFox 08/20/19 10:43:04 PM #1:	just as I was getting to really like Tom Holland's Spider-Man --- I like my beer cold, my TV loud, and my homosexuals FUH-LAMING! - Homer Simpson Don't be a turd. - Chris Pratt <cite>HylianFox posted [p:926337551] in seriously,... [t:77953197]...</cite> <quote>just as I was getting to really like Tom Holland's Spider-Man </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE FOSTER 08/20/19 10:45:17 PM #2:	Sonys property Sonys right to get more money --- https://imgtc.com/i/HXEuaL9.jpg https://imgtc.com/i/xZ5hGDm.jpg https://imgtc.com/i/UZiqG9l.jpg https://imgtc.ws/i/gEfkzml.gif <cite>CADE FOSTER posted [p:926337637] in seriously,... [t:77953197]...</cite> <quote>Sonys property Sonys right to get more money</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MICHALECOLE 08/20/19 10:45:49 PM #3:	CADE FOSTER posted... Sonys property Sonys right to get more money spongebob meme sOnYs PrOpErTy <cite>MICHALECOLE posted [p:926337661] in seriously,... [t:77953197]...</cite> <quote>CADE FOSTER posted...</cite> <quote>Sonys property Sonys right to get more money</quote> spongebob meme sOnYs PrOpErTy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 08/20/19 10:46:05 PM #4:	It's really more Disney's fault, since they're trying to get a bigger cut --- https://imgur.com/VeNBg https://imgur.com/gd5jC8q https://imgur.com/PKIy7 https://imgur.com/3p29JqP <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:926337675] in seriously,... [t:77953197]...</cite> <quote>It's really more Disney's fault, since they're trying to get a bigger cut</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SONIC_305 08/20/19 10:49:46 PM #6:	Spiderman 4 plz --- PSN: KlonoaxGuntz BBCF Mains: Ragna, Makoto, Izayoi and Es Games Playing: DBFZ, BBCF, & Monster Hunter World <cite>SONIC_305 posted [p:926337834] in seriously,... [t:77953197]...</cite> <quote>Spiderman 4 plz</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 08/20/19 10:51:59 PM #7:	SONIC_305 posted... Spiderman 4 plz It's totally gonna happen. <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:926337919] in seriously,... [t:77953197]...</cite> <quote>SONIC_305 posted...</cite> <quote>Spiderman 4 plz</quote> It's totally gonna happen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 08/20/19 10:52:44 PM #8:	SONIC_305 posted... Spiderman 4 plz You can Spiderman 4-get about it --- https://imgur.com/VeNBg https://imgur.com/gd5jC8q https://imgur.com/PKIy7 https://imgur.com/3p29JqP <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:926337944] in seriously,... [t:77953197]...</cite> <quote><cite>SONIC_305 posted...</cite> <quote>Spiderman 4 plz</quote> You can Spiderman 4-get about it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MabusIncarnate 08/20/19 10:54:02 PM #9:	UnholyMudcrab posted... You can Spiderman 4-get about it Ohhhhhh --- Ten million dollars on a losing campaign, Twenty million starving and writhing in pain. Vicious_Dios Original - https://i.imgtc.ws/Zl0aw6F.png <cite>MabusIncarnate posted [p:926337999] in seriously,... [t:77953197]...</cite> <quote>UnholyMudcrab posted... </cite> <quote>You can Spiderman 4-get about it</quote>Ohhhhhh </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SailorGoon 08/20/19 10:59:30 PM #10:	EIiza posted... What happened? Disney wanted more money and Sony said no. So no more Spidey in the MCU. --- Me irl: https://i.imgtc.ws/DaWXgKp.png <cite>SailorGoon posted [p:926338196] in seriously,... [t:77953197]...</cite> <quote>EIiza posted...</cite> <quote>What happened?</quote> Disney wanted more money and Sony said no. So no more Spidey in the MCU.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 08/20/19 11:01:57 PM #11:	It's not like the MCU needed him or really benefited from having him. I'd say it was more of a loss than a gain for both Disney and Spider-Man. I'm looking forward to Spider-Man 4. I don't quite forgive what they did to Venom, but it'll be nice to have a Spider-Man movie where he's not in high school. <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:926338292] in seriously,... [t:77953197]...</cite> <quote>It's not like the MCU needed him or really benefited from having him. I'd say it was more of a loss than a gain for both Disney and Spider-Man. I'm looking forward to Spider-Man 4. I don't quite forgive what they did to Venom, but it'll be nice to have a Spider-Man movie where he's not in high school.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SONIC_305 08/20/19 11:02:34 PM #12:	UnholyMudcrab posted... SONIC_305 posted... Spiderman 4 plz You can Spiderman 4-get about it Smells like salt to me --- PSN: KlonoaxGuntz BBCF Mains: Ragna, Makoto, Izayoi and Es Games Playing: DBFZ, BBCF, & Monster Hunter World <cite>SONIC_305 posted [p:926338316] in seriously,... [t:77953197]...</cite> <quote>UnholyMudcrab posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SONIC_305 posted...</cite> <quote>Spiderman 4 plz</quote> You can Spiderman 4-get about it</quote> Smells like salt to me</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SwayM 08/20/19 11:05:55 PM #13:	Skye Reynolds posted... It's not like the MCU needed him or really benefited from having him. You should feel the heat on the back of your neck when youve said something really embarrassing. Thats how wrong you are --- https://imgur.com/Fbusl2a <cite>SwayM posted [p:926338459] in seriously,... [t:77953197]...</cite> <quote>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote>It's not like the MCU needed him or really benefited from having him. </quote> You should feel the heat on the back of your neck when youve said something really embarrassing. Thats how wrong you are</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SailorGoon 08/20/19 11:12:07 PM #14:	I honestly don't understand why people are mad at Sony. Disney was the one who tried to break the status quo no? Things were sailing smoothly until they wanted more money. Like they didn't have enough as it is. They've got the whole fucking MCU to make bank off of. --- Me irl: https://i.imgtc.ws/DaWXgKp.png <cite>SailorGoon posted [p:926338691] in seriously,... [t:77953197]...</cite> <quote>I honestly don't understand why people are mad at Sony. Disney was the one who tried to break the status quo no? Things were sailing smoothly until they wanted more money. Like they didn't have enough as it is. They've got the whole fucking MCU to make bank off of.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zack_Attackv1 08/20/19 11:12:59 PM #15:	Sony always wins. --- https://imgur.com/pU2xtcp https://imgur.com/3GXDnxL <cite>Zack_Attackv1 posted [p:926338719] in seriously,... [t:77953197]...</cite> <quote>Sony always wins.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 08/20/19 11:13:11 PM #16:	SailorGoon posted... I honestly don't understand why people are mad at Sony. Disney was the one who tried to break the status quo no? Things were sailing smoothly until they wanted more money. Like they didn't have enough as it is. They've got the whole fucking MCU to make bank off of. Does Sony actually do anything for the movies other than letting them use the license? --- https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:926338728] in seriously,... [t:77953197]...</cite> <quote>SailorGoon posted...</cite> <quote>I honestly don't understand why people are mad at Sony. Disney was the one who tried to break the status quo no? Things were sailing smoothly until they wanted more money. Like they didn't have enough as it is. They've got the whole fucking MCU to make bank off of.</quote> Does Sony actually do anything for the movies other than letting them use the license?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 08/20/19 11:15:46 PM #17:	CADE FOSTER posted... Sonys property Sonys right to get more money Sony would've gotten more money if they stuck with Marvel. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:926338836] in seriously,... [t:77953197]...</cite> <quote>CADE FOSTER posted...</cite> <quote>Sonys property Sonys right to get more money</quote> Sony would've gotten more money if they stuck with Marvel.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 08/20/19 11:19:58 PM #18:	SwayM posted... Skye Reynolds posted... It's not like the MCU needed him or really benefited from having him. You should feel the heat on the back of your neck when youve said something really embarrassing. Thats how wrong you are Nah. I'll say it again. Disney didn't need Spider-Man and he hasn't been a blessing to them. Financially, sure. At this point, Disney can piss in a cup and expect to make half a billion from it. Creatively, I'd say Spider-Man appeared too late in the game. They already had heroes in love, heroes with wit, and heroes who were badasses. So what hey saw fit to do with him was stick him in the classroom as a 15 year old and give him a budding romance and a father figure in the MCU's favored son, Iron Man. I'd rather have Amazing Spider-Man where he's not in anybody's shadow. Another reboot isn't exactly what he needs, but I think Sony's Spider-Man 4 is gonna outdo Homecoming and Far From Home. Sam Raimi wants it. I can't imagine Tobey and Kirsten saying no either. <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:926338965] in seriously,... [t:77953197]...</cite> <quote>SwayM posted...</cite> <quote>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote>It's not like the MCU needed him or really benefited from having him. </quote> You should feel the heat on the back of your neck when youve said something really embarrassing. Thats how wrong you are</quote> Nah. I'll say it again. Disney didn't need Spider-Man and he hasn't been a blessing to them. Financially, sure. At this point, Disney can piss in a cup and expect to make half a billion from it. Creatively, I'd say Spider-Man appeared too late in the game. They already had heroes in love, heroes with wit, and heroes who were badasses. So what hey saw fit to do with him was stick him in the classroom as a 15 year old and give him a budding romance and a father figure in the MCU's favored son, Iron Man. I'd rather have Amazing Spider-Man where he's not in anybody's shadow. Another reboot isn't exactly what he needs, but I think Sony's Spider-Man 4 is gonna outdo Homecoming and Far From Home. Sam Raimi wants it. I can't imagine Tobey and Kirsten saying no either.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 08/20/19 11:25:45 PM #20:	pegusus123456 posted... SailorGoon posted... I honestly don't understand why people are mad at Sony. Disney was the one who tried to break the status quo no? Things were sailing smoothly until they wanted more money. Like they didn't have enough as it is. They've got the whole fucking MCU to make bank off of. Does Sony actually do anything for the movies other than letting them use the license? Yeah they co-produce them and use their studios. They also have the final say in any creative decisions. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:926339163] in seriously,... [t:77953197]...</cite> <quote>pegusus123456 posted...</cite> <quote>SailorGoon posted...</cite> <quote>I honestly don't understand why people are mad at Sony. Disney was the one who tried to break the status quo no? Things were sailing smoothly until they wanted more money. Like they didn't have enough as it is. They've got the whole fucking MCU to make bank off of.</quote> Does Sony actually do anything for the movies other than letting them use the license?</quote> Yeah they co-produce them and use their studios. They also have the final say in any creative decisions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LockeMonster 08/20/19 11:27:30 PM #21:	Lol, Raimi Spider-Man 4 is not happening. Holland Spider-Man 3 and 4 are already in the works and they're not gonna get get old ass Tobey in 5 years and make a movie. Raimi's Spider-Man already had the story continue in Spider-verse. --- "Scranton is great, but New York is like Scranton on acid. No, on speed. Nah. On steroids." FC: 3282-3258-0224 <cite>LockeMonster posted [p:926339222] in seriously,... [t:77953197]...</cite> <quote>Lol, Raimi Spider-Man 4 is not happening. Holland Spider-Man 3 and 4 are already in the works and they're not gonna get get old ass Tobey in 5 years and make a movie. Raimi's Spider-Man already had the story continue in Spider-verse.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SwayM 08/20/19 11:33:26 PM #22:	Sony was getting 100% of the profits of the Spider-Man movies while Marvel did all the creative heavy lifting Disney/Marvel isnt wrong for trying to renegotiate a better partnership. Marvel came to them hat in hand and put their reputation on the line. They negotiated this absolutely shit deal for themselves because they had such ambition for the character, it was the right time for him to come back and they knew they could weave him into the MCU perfectly. It was a huge gamble and I think we know how it worked out. Sony is a bunch of fucking idiots for walking away after such critical and financial success. Theyre absolutely in the wrong here and I hope the backlash buries them --- https://imgur.com/Fbusl2a <cite>SwayM posted [p:926339414] in seriously,... [t:77953197]...</cite> <quote>Sony was getting 100% of the profits of the Spider-Man movies while Marvel did all the creative heavy lifting Disney/Marvel isnt wrong for trying to renegotiate a better partnership. Marvel came to them hat in hand and put their reputation on the line. They negotiated this absolutely shit deal for themselves because they had such ambition for the character, it was the right time for him to come back and they knew they could weave him into the MCU perfectly. It was a huge gamble and I think we know how it worked out. Sony is a bunch of fucking idiots for walking away after such critical and financial success. Theyre absolutely in the wrong here and I hope the backlash buries them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SailorGoon 08/20/19 11:37:21 PM #23:	SwayM posted... Sony was getting 100% of the profits of the Spider-Man movies while Marvel did all the creative heavy lifting Disney/Marvel isnt wrong for trying to renegotiate a better partnership. Marvel came to them hat in hand and put their reputation on the line. Like they negotiated this absolutely shit deal for themselves because they had such ambition for the character and it was the right time for him to come back and they knew they could weave him into the MCU perfectly. It was a huge gamble and I think we know how it worked out. Sony is a bunch of fucking idiots for walking away after such critical and financial success. Theyre absolutely in the wrong here and I hope the backlash buries them Well that's kinda false. Disney got 5% along with merchandising profits. To say Sony was getting it all without doing anything is overblowing things. Especially if what @Darmik was saying holds true. They aren't entirely out of their rights to want to stick with the status quo. There would have been no harm continuing as they had been --- Me irl: https://i.imgtc.ws/DaWXgKp.png <cite>SailorGoon posted [p:926339553] in seriously,... [t:77953197]...</cite> <quote>SwayM posted...</cite> <quote>Sony was getting 100% of the profits of the Spider-Man movies while Marvel did all the creative heavy lifting Disney/Marvel isnt wrong for trying to renegotiate a better partnership. Marvel came to them hat in hand and put their reputation on the line. Like they negotiated this absolutely shit deal for themselves because they had such ambition for the character and it was the right time for him to come back and they knew they could weave him into the MCU perfectly. It was a huge gamble and I think we know how it worked out. Sony is a bunch of fucking idiots for walking away after such critical and financial success. Theyre absolutely in the wrong here and I hope the backlash buries them</quote> Well that's kinda false. Disney got 5% along with merchandising profits. To say Sony was getting it all without doing anything is overblowing things. Especially if what @Darmik was saying holds true. They aren't entirely out of their rights to want to stick with the status quo. There would have been no harm continuing as they had been</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 08/20/19 11:38:03 PM #24:	LockeMonster posted... Lol, Raimi Spider-Man 4 is not happening. Holland Spider-Man 3 and 4 are already in the works and they're not gonna get get old ass Tobey in 5 years and make a movie. Raimi's Spider-Man already had the story continue in Spider-verse. Are they gonna be Sony pictures? 'Cause they're not in the works if Holland is attached to Disney. <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:926339579] in seriously,... [t:77953197]...</cite> <quote>LockeMonster posted...</cite> <quote>Lol, Raimi Spider-Man 4 is not happening. Holland Spider-Man 3 and 4 are already in the works and they're not gonna get get old ass Tobey in 5 years and make a movie. Raimi's Spider-Man already had the story continue in Spider-verse.</quote> Are they gonna be Sony pictures? 'Cause they're not in the works if Holland is attached to Disney.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 08/20/19 11:39:56 PM #25:	SailorGoon posted... SwayM posted... Sony was getting 100% of the profits of the Spider-Man movies while Marvel did all the creative heavy lifting Disney/Marvel isnt wrong for trying to renegotiate a better partnership. Marvel came to them hat in hand and put their reputation on the line. Like they negotiated this absolutely shit deal for themselves because they had such ambition for the character and it was the right time for him to come back and they knew they could weave him into the MCU perfectly. It was a huge gamble and I think we know how it worked out. Sony is a bunch of fucking idiots for walking away after such critical and financial success. Theyre absolutely in the wrong here and I hope the backlash buries them Well that's kinda false. Disney got 5% along with merchandising profits. To say Sony was getting it all without doing anything is overblowing things. They got enough of it that saying sony "gets all of it" is not an unreasonable statement --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:926339634] in seriously,... [t:77953197]...</cite> <quote><cite>SailorGoon posted...</cite> <quote>SwayM posted...</cite> <quote> Sony was getting 100% of the profits of the Spider-Man movies while Marvel did all the creative heavy lifting Disney/Marvel isnt wrong for trying to renegotiate a better partnership. Marvel came to them hat in hand and put their reputation on the line. Like they negotiated this absolutely shit deal for themselves because they had such ambition for the character and it was the right time for him to come back and they knew they could weave him into the MCU perfectly. It was a huge gamble and I think we know how it worked out. Sony is a bunch of fucking idiots for walking away after such critical and financial success. Theyre absolutely in the wrong here and I hope the backlash buries them</quote> Well that's kinda false. Disney got 5% along with merchandising profits. To say Sony was getting it all without doing anything is overblowing things.</quote> They got enough of it that saying sony "gets all of it" is not an unreasonable statement</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 08/20/19 11:40:48 PM #26:	SwayM posted... Sony was getting 100% of the profits of the Spider-Man movies while Marvel did all the creative heavy lifting Disney/Marvel isnt wrong for trying to renegotiate a better partnership. Marvel came to them hat in hand and put their reputation on the line. They negotiated this absolutely shit deal for themselves because they had such ambition for the character, it was the right time for him to come back and they knew they could weave him into the MCU perfectly. It was a huge gamble and I think we know how it worked out. Sony is a bunch of fucking idiots for walking away after such critical and financial success. Theyre absolutely in the wrong here and I hope the backlash buries them https://archive.is/20170630163601/ https://www.wsj.com/articles/spider-man-a-175-million-commercial-for-disney-toys-1498815005#selection-2351.0-2351.357 In a 2011 renegotiation designed to resolve years of behind-the-scenes legal disputes and provide Sony with much-needed cash, the Japanese company gave up its share of merchandise rights and Marvel, now owned by Disney, agreed to forego its 5% of film revenue, as well as making a one-time payment of $175 million and up to $35 million for each future film. Now that it kept all the profit from Spider-Man merchandise, Disney cared more deeply that business, which declined as the movies lost momentum. U.S. toy sales of Spider-Man fell to $200 million around the release of The Amazing Spider-Man 2 in 2014, from $385 million in the year around the release of 2004s Spider-Man 2, according to NPD Group. No money changed hands under the deal. The only tweak to the prior arrangement was that in exchange for its producing services, Marvel gets to reduce the $35 million it would owe on Homecoming if the movie grosses more than $750 million, said people with knowledge of the arrangement. The narrative that Disney is some nice guy company who did this out of the goodness of their heats weirds me out. They both want to make money. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:926339674] in seriously,... [t:77953197]...</cite> <quote>SwayM posted...</cite> <quote>Sony was getting 100% of the profits of the Spider-Man movies while Marvel did all the creative heavy lifting Disney/Marvel isnt wrong for trying to renegotiate a better partnership. Marvel came to them hat in hand and put their reputation on the line. They negotiated this absolutely shit deal for themselves because they had such ambition for the character, it was the right time for him to come back and they knew they could weave him into the MCU perfectly. It was a huge gamble and I think we know how it worked out. Sony is a bunch of fucking idiots for walking away after such critical and financial success. Theyre absolutely in the wrong here and I hope the backlash buries them</quote> https://archive.is/20170630163601/ https://www.wsj.com/articles/spider-man-a-175-million-commercial-for-disney-toys-1498815005#selection-2351.0-2351.357 <quote>In a 2011 renegotiation designed to resolve years of behind-the-scenes legal disputes and provide Sony with much-needed cash, the Japanese company gave up its share of merchandise rights and Marvel, now owned by Disney, agreed to forego its 5% of film revenue, as well as making a one-time payment of $175 million and up to $35 million for each future film. Now that it kept all the profit from Spider-Man merchandise, Disney cared more deeply that business, which declined as the movies lost momentum. U.S. toy sales of Spider-Man fell to $200 million around the release of The Amazing Spider-Man 2 in 2014, from $385 million in the year around the release of 2004s Spider-Man 2, according to NPD Group.</quote> <quote>No money changed hands under the deal. The only tweak to the prior arrangement was that in exchange for its producing services, Marvel gets to reduce the $35 million it would owe on Homecoming if the movie grosses more than $750 million, said people with knowledge of the arrangement.</quote> The narrative that Disney is some nice guy company who did this out of the goodness of their heats weirds me out. They both want to make money.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 08/20/19 11:41:34 PM #27:	Skye Reynolds posted... LockeMonster posted... Lol, Raimi Spider-Man 4 is not happening. Holland Spider-Man 3 and 4 are already in the works and they're not gonna get get old ass Tobey in 5 years and make a movie. Raimi's Spider-Man already had the story continue in Spider-verse. Are they gonna be Sony pictures? 'Cause they're not in the works if Holland is attached to Disney. I think it's guaranteed that he's signed with Sony. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:926339703] in seriously,... [t:77953197]...</cite> <quote>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote>LockeMonster posted...</cite> <quote>Lol, Raimi Spider-Man 4 is not happening. Holland Spider-Man 3 and 4 are already in the works and they're not gonna get get old ass Tobey in 5 years and make a movie. Raimi's Spider-Man already had the story continue in Spider-verse.</quote> Are they gonna be Sony pictures? 'Cause they're not in the works if Holland is attached to Disney.</quote> I think it's guaranteed that he's signed with Sony.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 08/20/19 11:43:07 PM #28:	Sony sounds like a reversal of Disney's Aladdin for Sega Genesis. Disney demanded so much of the profits that Sega got very little out of the games being sold. On the other hand, Sega still profited in that console sales rose due to people buying a Genesis specifically to play Aladdin. <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:926339764] in seriously,... [t:77953197]...</cite> <quote>Sony sounds like a reversal of Disney's Aladdin for Sega Genesis. Disney demanded so much of the profits that Sega got very little out of the games being sold. On the other hand, Sega still profited in that console sales rose due to people buying a Genesis specifically to play Aladdin.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LockeMonster 08/20/19 11:43:17 PM #29:	Skye Reynolds posted... LockeMonster posted... Lol, Raimi Spider-Man 4 is not happening. Holland Spider-Man 3 and 4 are already in the works and they're not gonna get get old ass Tobey in 5 years and make a movie. Raimi's Spider-Man already had the story continue in Spider-verse. Are they gonna be Sony pictures? 'Cause they're not in the works if Holland is attached to Disney. His contract is with Sony, not Disney. --- "Scranton is great, but New York is like Scranton on acid. No, on speed. Nah. On steroids." FC: 3282-3258-0224 <cite>LockeMonster posted [p:926339770] in seriously,... [t:77953197]...</cite> <quote>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote>LockeMonster posted...</cite> <quote>Lol, Raimi Spider-Man 4 is not happening. Holland Spider-Man 3 and 4 are already in the works and they're not gonna get get old ass Tobey in 5 years and make a movie. Raimi's Spider-Man already had the story continue in Spider-verse.</quote> Are they gonna be Sony pictures? 'Cause they're not in the works if Holland is attached to Disney.</quote> His contract is with Sony, not Disney.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 08/20/19 11:46:38 PM #30:	Ah, so they're set in the same continuity but incidentally won't feature any MCU characters. I guess that's fine. I mean, it's no worse off than he would've been with Disney. It's just a shame they're still going with kid Parker and Not Mary Jane. <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:926339850] in seriously,... [t:77953197]...</cite> <quote>Ah, so they're set in the same continuity but incidentally won't feature any MCU characters. I guess that's fine. I mean, it's no worse off than he would've been with Disney. It's just a shame they're still going with kid Parker and Not Mary Jane.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meralonne 08/20/19 11:46:53 PM #31:	Okay, so how does Sony do another Holland Spider-man movie and just strip out all of the connections to Iron Man and Co.? I mean, its great in one sense because he can forge his own path without all of the tech tricks he seems to be reliant upon, but still? --- "Sigs are for dorks."-- my wife <cite>meralonne posted [p:926339855] in seriously,... [t:77953197]...</cite> <quote>Okay, so how does Sony do another Holland Spider-man movie and just strip out all of the connections to Iron Man and Co.? I mean, its great in one sense because he can forge his own path without all of the tech tricks he seems to be reliant upon, but still?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 08/20/19 11:50:37 PM #32:	meralonne posted... Okay, so how does Sony do another Holland Spider-man movie and just strip out all of the connections to Iron Man and Co.? I mean, its great in one sense because he can forge his own path without all of the tech tricks he seems to be reliant upon, but still? Curt Connors becomes Peter Parker's new mentor and benefactor. Oh, hell, like 80% to 90% of Spider-Man's villains use high tech in one form or another. It could be most anybody. <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:926339972] in seriously,... [t:77953197]...</cite> <quote>meralonne posted...</cite> <quote>Okay, so how does Sony do another Holland Spider-man movie and just strip out all of the connections to Iron Man and Co.? I mean, its great in one sense because he can forge his own path without all of the tech tricks he seems to be reliant upon, but still?</quote> Curt Connors becomes Peter Parker's new mentor and benefactor. Oh, hell, like 80% to 90% of Spider-Man's villains use high tech in one form or another. It could be most anybody.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 08/20/19 11:53:27 PM #33:	meralonne posted... Okay, so how does Sony do another Holland Spider-man movie and just strip out all of the connections to Iron Man and Co.? I mean, its great in one sense because he can forge his own path without all of the tech tricks he seems to be reliant upon, but still? I guess it depends on what they are or aren't allowed to do. Sequels have changed to different production studios in the past and they were allowed to reference past events right? Can Disney copyright name-dropping Iron Man? I think they might be able to. They will need to completely drop SHIELD and Happy though. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:926340057] in seriously,... [t:77953197]...</cite> <quote>meralonne posted...</cite> <quote>Okay, so how does Sony do another Holland Spider-man movie and just strip out all of the connections to Iron Man and Co.? I mean, its great in one sense because he can forge his own path without all of the tech tricks he seems to be reliant upon, but still?</quote> I guess it depends on what they are or aren't allowed to do. Sequels have changed to different production studios in the past and they were allowed to reference past events right? Can Disney copyright name-dropping Iron Man? I think they might be able to. They will need to completely drop SHIELD and Happy though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 08/20/19 11:55:21 PM #34:	FUCK Disney for wanting more than a massive 5% for movies they were responsible for the success of tbqh <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:926340120] in seriously,... [t:77953197]...</cite> <quote>FUCK Disney for wanting more than a massive 5% for movies they were responsible for the success of tbqh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoctorVader 08/21/19 12:03:10 AM #35:	Forget whatever nonsense happens in the Sony movies. Spider-Man will have to be completely removed from the future MCU movies. Motherfucker ~~died and helped influence Tony in saving everybody, and welp, he came back for 8 months and is gone again. That's worse than the fuckery with Wolverine/Professor X in DoFP and Logan.~~ --- It all just disappears, doesn't it? Everything you are, gone in a moment, like breath on a mirror. - The Doctor <cite>DoctorVader posted [p:926340357] in seriously,... [t:77953197]...</cite> <quote>Forget whatever nonsense happens in the Sony movies. Spider-Man will have to be completely removed from the future MCU movies. Motherfucker died and helped influence Tony in saving everybody, and welp, he came back for 8 months and is gone again. That's worse than the fuckery with Wolverine/Professor X in DoFP and Logan.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I Like Toast 08/21/19 12:03:49 AM #36:	UnholyMudcrab posted... It's really more Disney's fault, since they're trying to get a bigger cut --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:926340388] in seriously,... [t:77953197]...</cite> <quote>UnholyMudcrab posted...</cite> <quote>It's really more Disney's fault, since they're trying to get a bigger cut</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I Like Toast 08/21/19 12:07:22 AM #37:	meralonne posted... Okay, so how does Sony do another Holland Spider-man movie and just strip out all of the connections to Iron Man and Co.? I mean, its great in one sense because he can forge his own path without all of the tech tricks he seems to be reliant upon, but still? Ffm already sets it up. It's literally the point. Replace stark tech with ostech and spiderman is fine without the mcu. The only real loss is happy. Disney made spiderman critical to its story and hasn't had the post Tony movie which needs spiderman to be told. --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:926340503] in seriously,... [t:77953197]...</cite> <quote>meralonne posted...</cite> <quote>Okay, so how does Sony do another Holland Spider-man movie and just strip out all of the connections to Iron Man and Co.? I mean, its great in one sense because he can forge his own path without all of the tech tricks he seems to be reliant upon, but still?</quote> Ffm already sets it up. It's literally the point. Replace stark tech with ostech and spiderman is fine without the mcu. The only real loss is happy. Disney made spiderman critical to its story and hasn't had the post Tony movie which needs spiderman to be told.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 08/21/19 12:10:05 AM #38:	Yes Fuck Disney and fuck anyone who is stopping the deal from happening due to greed. It is not Disney who is helping these movies succeed. It is Kevin Feige and whoever else from Marvel Studios who works with him on their movies. Considering he gets credit as a creative consultant I'm sure Sony is already paying him for his work on their movies. Disney wants a 50/50 cut and I'm sure that's on top of getting 100% profit of any crossover movie that has Spider-man in it. It also sounds like they want every future Spider-man movie to be co-produced with them. This is on top of having full merchandise profit from any Spider-man movie. So yeah the fact that this is falling through is likely on Disney. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:926340597] in seriously,... [t:77953197]...</cite> <quote>Yes Fuck Disney and fuck anyone who is stopping the deal from happening due to greed. It is not Disney who is helping these movies succeed. It is Kevin Feige and whoever else from Marvel Studios who works with him on their movies. Considering he gets credit as a creative consultant I'm sure Sony is already paying him for his work on their movies. Disney wants a 50/50 cut and I'm sure that's on top of getting 100% profit of any crossover movie that has Spider-man in it. It also sounds like they want every future Spider-man movie to be co-produced with them. This is on top of having full merchandise profit from any Spider-man movie. So yeah the fact that this is falling through is likely on Disney.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarthAragorn 08/21/19 12:12:24 AM #40:	I Like Toast posted... UnholyMudcrab posted... It's really more Disney's fault, since they're trying to get a bigger cut DarthAragorn posted... FUCK Disney for wanting more than a massive 5% for movies they were responsible for the success of tbqh <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:926340660] in seriously,... [t:77953197]...</cite> <quote>I Like Toast posted...</cite> <quote>UnholyMudcrab posted...</cite> <quote>It's really more Disney's fault, since they're trying to get a bigger cut</quote></quote> DarthAragorn posted...</cite> <quote>FUCK Disney for wanting more than a massive 5% for movies they were responsible for the success of tbqh</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Banjo2553 08/21/19 12:13:13 AM #41:	SwayM posted... Skye Reynolds posted... It's not like the MCU needed him or really benefited from having him. You should feel the heat on the back of your neck when youve said something really embarrassing. Thats how wrong you are I'm guessing all those movies before Civil War just never existed huh? --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA <cite>Banjo2553 posted [p:926340681] in seriously,... [t:77953197]...</cite> <quote>SwayM posted...</cite> <quote>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote>It's not like the MCU needed him or really benefited from having him. </quote> You should feel the heat on the back of your neck when youve said something really embarrassing. Thats how wrong you are</quote> I'm guessing all those movies before Civil War just never existed huh?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Divinehero 08/21/19 12:13:47 AM #42:	considering disney gets all the merch profits... wanting 50% on top of that is stupid --- Every time I hear "The Big Bang Theory" I imagine God having sex with something and BOOM the Universe was created. - PatrickSim <cite>Divinehero posted [p:926340699] in seriously,... [t:77953197]...</cite> <quote>considering disney gets all the merch profits... wanting 50% on top of that is stupid</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I Like Toast 08/21/19 12:14:09 AM #43:	Hairistotle posted... sony should have taken the deal and continue to enjoy the stream of free money tbh Except it's not free and venom made 700-800 mil despite mixed at best reviews and no mcu. With the international market being bigger spiderman is a billion dollar movie with or without mcu --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:926340715] in seriously,... [t:77953197]...</cite> <quote>Hairistotle posted...</cite> <quote>sony should have taken the deal and continue to enjoy the stream of free money tbh</quote> Except it's not free and venom made 700-800 mil despite mixed at best reviews and no mcu. With the international market being bigger spiderman is a billion dollar movie with or without mcu</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
archedsoul 08/21/19 12:14:49 AM #44:	No, fuck Sony. These companies got a fucking deal of a life time because Marvel was on their knees and sold it really cheap. For the most part, they all fucked up through the 90s and 2000s save for a few gems. Along comes Disney and buys Marvel and wants their shit back, but these fuckers have just been constantly rebooting their crap so they can exploit a loophole to keep the rights. --- "Fear cuts deeper than swords." <cite>archedsoul posted [p:926340730] in seriously,... [t:77953197]...</cite> <quote>No, fuck Sony. These companies got a fucking deal of a life time because Marvel was on their knees and sold it really cheap. For the most part, they all fucked up through the 90s and 2000s save for a few gems. Along comes Disney and buys Marvel and wants their shit back, but these fuckers have just been constantly rebooting their crap so they can exploit a loophole to keep the rights.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 08/21/19 12:15:49 AM #45:	If you offered me the choice between the proceeds from the next Spider-Man movie or the proceeds and creative control, I'd take the creative control and the proceeds. I don't know that I agree with Sony's direction, but I can't blame them for wanting control over Spider-Man. <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:926340763] in seriously,... [t:77953197]...</cite> <quote>If you offered me the choice between the proceeds from the next Spider-Man movie or the proceeds and creative control, I'd take the creative control and the proceeds. I don't know that I agree with Sony's direction, but I can't blame them for wanting control over Spider-Man.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 08/21/19 12:17:13 AM #46:	Skye Reynolds posted... If you offered me the choice between the proceeds from the next Spider-Man movie or the proceeds and creative control, I'd take the creative control and the proceeds. I don't know that I agree with Sony's direction, but I can't blame them for wanting control over Spider-Man. that's all well and good until they inevitably make another shit movie that kills interest in spider-man like asm2 <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:926340799] in seriously,... [t:77953197]...</cite> <quote>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote>If you offered me the choice between the proceeds from the next Spider-Man movie or the proceeds and creative control, I'd take the creative control and the proceeds. I don't know that I agree with Sony's direction, but I can't blame them for wanting control over Spider-Man.</quote> that's all well and good until they inevitably make another shit movie that kills interest in spider-man like asm2</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SailorGoon 08/21/19 12:17:18 AM #47:	DarthAragorn posted... I Like Toast posted... UnholyMudcrab posted... It's really more Disney's fault, since they're trying to get a bigger cut DarthAragorn posted... FUCK Disney for wanting more than a massive 5% for movies they were responsible for the success of tbqh It's like you're willfully ignoring everything else in this topics that points to the situation being more than just 5%. Poor poor Disney. They need as much money as possible because they don't fucking own almost everything and can't profit off of literally any other superhero. --- Me irl: https://i.imgtc.ws/DaWXgKp.png <cite>SailorGoon posted [p:926340802] in seriously,... [t:77953197]...</cite> <quote>DarthAragorn posted...</cite> <quote>I Like Toast posted...</cite> <quote>UnholyMudcrab posted...</cite> <quote>It's really more Disney's fault, since they're trying to get a bigger cut</quote></quote> DarthAragorn posted...</cite> <quote>FUCK Disney for wanting more than a massive 5% for movies they were responsible for the success of tbqh</quote></quote> It's like you're willfully ignoring everything else in this topics that points to the situation being more than just 5%. Poor poor Disney. They need as much money as possible because they don't fucking own almost everything and can't profit off of literally any other superhero.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 08/21/19 12:17:35 AM #48:	archedsoul posted... No, fuck Sony. These companies got a fucking deal of a life time because Marvel was on their knees and sold it really cheap. For the most part, they all fucked up through the 90s and 2000s save for a few gems. Along comes Disney and buys Marvel and wants their shit back, but these fuckers have just been constantly rebooting their crap so they can exploit a loophole to keep the rights. The MCU would not exist if Fox and Sony didn't take a chance on superhero movies 20 years ago. Disney didn't get into the superhero game until it was already established and massive. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:926340819] in seriously,... [t:77953197]...</cite> <quote>archedsoul posted...</cite> <quote>No, fuck Sony. These companies got a fucking deal of a life time because Marvel was on their knees and sold it really cheap. For the most part, they all fucked up through the 90s and 2000s save for a few gems. Along comes Disney and buys Marvel and wants their shit back, but these fuckers have just been constantly rebooting their crap so they can exploit a loophole to keep the rights.</quote> The MCU would not exist if Fox and Sony didn't take a chance on superhero movies 20 years ago. Disney didn't get into the superhero game until it was already established and massive.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I Like Toast 08/21/19 12:19:14 AM #49:	DarthAragorn posted... that's all well and good until they inevitably make another shit movie that kills interest in spider-man like asm2 If it killed interest, why were people so excited when spiderman showed up kn civil war. Not to mention before the deal people were excited for asm3 which was planning on doing sinister 6. Which people are still waiting for. --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:926340860] in seriously,... [t:77953197]...</cite> <quote>DarthAragorn posted...</cite> <quote> that's all well and good until they inevitably make another shit movie that kills interest in spider-man like asm2</quote> If it killed interest, why were people so excited when spiderman showed up kn civil war. Not to mention before the deal people were excited for asm3 which was planning on doing sinister 6. Which people are still waiting for.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 08/21/19 12:19:49 AM #50:	I Like Toast posted... DarthAragorn posted... that's all well and good until they inevitably make another shit movie that kills interest in spider-man like asm2 If it killed interest, why were people so excited when spiderman showed up kn civil war. Not to mention before the deal people were excited for asm3 which was planning on doing sinister 6. Which people are still waiting for. because it was a competent studio in charge of it lmao who the actual fuck was excited for amazing fucking spider-man 3 <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:926340877] in seriously,... [t:77953197]...</cite> <quote>I Like Toast posted...</cite> <quote>DarthAragorn posted...</cite> <quote> that's all well and good until they inevitably make another shit movie that kills interest in spider-man like asm2</quote> If it killed interest, why were people so excited when spiderman showed up kn civil war. Not to mention before the deal people were excited for asm3 which was planning on doing sinister 6. Which people are still waiting for.</quote> because it was a competent studio in charge of it lmao who the actual fuck was excited for amazing fucking spider-man 3</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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