Poll of the Day > Trump's Approval rating still at 43%

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SunWuKung420 posted...

You know you can disregard trump when Brits support him. They did invent taking over by immigration after all.

Congrats on writing one of your stupider posts.

I love when someone doesn't understand that "colonization" is just takeover by immigration.
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SunWuKung420 posted...

You know you can disregard trump when Brits support him. They did invent taking over by immigration after all.

We invented forced globalisation.

SunWuKung420 posted...

I love when someone doesn't understand that "colonization" is just takeover by immigration.

We're famously a country that has been colonised long before we were even a coherent country.
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Mead posted...

Patriotism is to stand by your country's governance

this might be the most incorrect thing you've ever posted

and theres some serious competition

It was quite impressive wasn't it?

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Blaqthourne posted...

You really shouldn't need to fact check everything. Otherwise, you'll never get anything accomplished.

Sure you should.

Fact-checking doesn't necessarily, or even usually, require you to go back to first principles the way you suggested with your baseball example. It requires that you find a credible source (or, preferably, multiple credible sources) verifying the account as true. In the case of your baseball example, if your random friend told you a random stat about a player, you would have reason to doubt him, but if MLB's website says the same thing, you know that it's probably true.

But then you're not fact checking everything, since you're now taking that "credible source" as fact.
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Kungfu Kenobi posted...

And this is the sense in which Trump's tweet is to be understood.

Don't be obtuse. There is a world of difference between "Bob's a miracle worker!" and "Jews love Bob like he's the King of Israel" and you know it.

Blaqthourne posted...

But then you're not fact checking everything, since you're now taking that "credible source" as fact.

Yes - also known as fact checking.

Because if you want to get technical, what you described - going back and checking the box scores to verify a baseball stat - isn't fact checking by your definition either. How do you know those box scores were reputable? How do you know someone didn't make a mistake? Or that they weren't altered after the fact? You'd have to go back and review all the footage of the games in question and compile your own data (and even then maybe some maniacal fanatic altered the footage).

Which is something no reasonable person would ever do, because credible sources and good data are things that exist. We can be confident that box scores are reputable and if multiple sports outlets are reporting on the same analysis pointing to records being set, we can be confident that that data is also valid. Reasonable fact checking simply involves checking your sources and, ideally, seeing if what they've reported has been verified by other reliable sources or peer review.

This isn't nearly as hard as you're making it out to be.
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