Current Events > joker (2019) - will this be a good or bad DC film?

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Parappa09
08/28/19 3:43:31 PM
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topic - Results (16 votes)
good
43.75% (7 votes)
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bad
50% (8 votes)
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who knows
6.25% (1 vote)
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from the final trailer, i really can't tell. i get yellow flags at parts but i'm hoping it will be a good DC film

it's hard to mess up the joker right? and its starring joaquin phoenix

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Smashingpmkns
08/28/19 3:45:33 PM
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I think the overall film will be average to meh but Joaquin will have a great performance. He's the only reason why I'm going to watch it tbh.
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Veggeta_MAX
08/28/19 3:47:38 PM
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It's gonna sell billions because we live in an era where people are all weak and broken from society and needs something to relate to and the Joker's original story and his turn to evil is prolly something very relatable to casual these days.

You know how many likes and shares this picture got on social media? A lot.

0QrMycr

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iPhone_7
08/28/19 3:48:55 PM
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I think it will be ok, just ok
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Parappa09
08/28/19 3:50:02 PM
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Veggeta_MAX posted...
You know how many likes and shares this picture got on social media? A lot.

0QrMycr
yikes

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Smashingpmkns
08/28/19 3:50:15 PM
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Veggeta_MAX posted...
It's gonna sell billions because we live in a...society

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au_gold
08/28/19 3:51:15 PM
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Joaquin Phoenix elevates anything hes in.
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EvalAngell
08/28/19 3:52:11 PM
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#NotMyJoker
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Veggeta_MAX
08/28/19 3:52:44 PM
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Parappa09 posted...
yikes
Unfortunately it's the selling point of the movie. The world is cruel and beats him down even though he's just a normal decent person just tryna survive. It's the world's fault he becomes the Joker. And I have this feeling most of our average people these days feels the same. Which is why it's gonna sell millions.

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GeneralKenobi85
08/28/19 3:58:51 PM
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I've heard certain rumors about the movie, and if those turn out to be true, it's going to be awful. If they're not true, I still can't imagine it being great, but maybe it will be entertaining enough. I do think Phoenix will give a solid performance at least.

Interestingly though the movie reminds me so much of The King of Comedy, which I loved. Right down to having De Niro in it.
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Veggeta_MAX
08/28/19 4:04:57 PM
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RedWhiteBlue posted...
Considering how fucked up people can get for being treated as expendable trash, subhuman, or even denied basic human needs, makes sense.
Life screws all of us over and I understand everyone takes and deals with it different. Some are stronger than others. In fact, one of DC's consistent theme is anyone can break, even the best and greatest people. However... DC SPOILERS

In TDK, part of the main plot was breaking Dent. In other DC renditions, Joker was able to break Superman by killing Louise and Supes became insane. But DC was ALWAYS careful when hitting these themes. They ALWAYS made sure the audience knew that even though the best people can break, it doesn't make it okay.

But sadly everyone only wants to latch on to the turning point and not the end resolute point.

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BLAKUboy
08/28/19 4:08:53 PM
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First trailer already looked dumb, but this one looks way worse.
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Parappa09
08/28/19 5:40:51 PM
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Hairistotle posted...
looks awful imo but what do i know
your taste in game of thrones and other TV shows is impeccable

au_gold posted...
Joaquin Phoenix elevates anything hes in.
i do agree with this

BLAKUboy posted...
First trailer already looked dumb, but this one looks way worse.
but the music...

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konokonohamaru
08/28/19 5:41:42 PM
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Veggeta_MAX posted...
It's gonna sell billions because we live in an era where people are all weak and broken from society and needs something to relate to and the Joker's original story and his turn to evil is prolly something very relatable to casual these days.

You know how many likes and shares this picture got on social media? A lot.

0QrMycr


So the Joker is a millennial?
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creativerealms
08/28/19 5:49:28 PM
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It looks really bad to me. He looks more like Ronald McDonald with green hair then the Joker.
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MabusIncarnate
08/28/19 5:52:29 PM
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I think it will about be on par with Venom. My expectations are kind of low, from the start, this hasn't interested me much.

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SherIock_HoImes
08/28/19 5:56:44 PM
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I think itll be mediocre but Joaquins performance will be the highlight.
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AlephZero
08/28/19 5:57:36 PM
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finally a movie for and by gamers
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Banjo2553
08/28/19 6:00:08 PM
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I really have no idea. Seems like it might be okay but I don't know about making Joker a sympathetic villain.
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Tyranthraxus
08/28/19 6:02:14 PM
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Veggeta_MAX posted...
It's gonna sell billions


WB projected this movie to make around 79 million dollars and because of the immense amount of positive buzz it has receive those estimates were updated to 85 million dollars.

If it somehow manages to crack 200 million everyone at WB is going to be so fucking confused they won't be able to dress themselves in the morning.

There is 0 chance it will sell a billion.

It's going to be a fantastic movie regardless.

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tamagucci
08/28/19 6:02:33 PM
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Probably better than most DC garbage but not as great as shazam I bet.
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Zack_Attackv1
08/28/19 6:03:10 PM
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It's gonna bring in da moneh.
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Veggeta_MAX
08/28/19 6:13:05 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
WB projected this movie to make around 79 million dollars and because of the immense amount of positive buzz it has receive those estimates were updated to 85 million dollars.

If it somehow manages to crack 200 million everyone at WB is going to be so fucking confused they won't be able to dress themselves in the morning.

There is 0 chance it will sell a billion.

It's going to be a fantastic movie regardless.
You might be right. The Killing Joke animated movie, another Joker origin, was ridiculed heavily even with Luke Skywalker back at the helm.

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Veggeta_MAX
08/28/19 6:14:12 PM
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konokonohamaru posted...
So the Joker is a millennial?
Not exactly. He portrays an origin that a lot of broken and bitter people can relate to. Almost no one IRL will ever take it to the Joker's extreme but I'm sure relating to some of his experience is the selling point.

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voldothegr8
08/28/19 6:17:22 PM
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It's going to bomb critically and DC fanboys will blame Disney/Marvel

It will at the very least have a monster opening weekend and probably succeed financially like most DC films
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Parappa09
08/28/19 6:19:42 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
It will at the very least have a monster opening weekend and probably succeed financially like most DC films
it might also be an oscar award-winning film like suicide squad

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Tyranthraxus
08/28/19 6:20:26 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
It's going to bomb critically and DC fanboys will blame Disney/Marvel

It will at the very least have a monster opening weekend and probably succeed financially like most DC films


It's already critically one of the most praised movies of the year from exclusive insider screenings.

https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/todd-phillips-joker-oscars-venice-film-fest

https://www.indiewire.com/2019/07/oscars-2020-tiff-awards-contenders-joker-jojo-rabbit-1202160225/


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Cosmic_Diabetic
08/28/19 6:23:28 PM
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I have no faith in the director.
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voldothegr8
08/28/19 6:28:29 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
It's going to bomb critically and DC fanboys will blame Disney/Marvel

It will at the very least have a monster opening weekend and probably succeed financially like most DC films


It's already critically one of the most praised movies of the year from exclusive insider screenings.

https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/todd-phillips-joker-oscars-venice-film-fest

https://www.indiewire.com/2019/07/oscars-2020-tiff-awards-contenders-joker-jojo-rabbit-1202160225/


I don't know if I'd call that a good sign or not. Time will tell though.
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Parappa09
08/28/19 6:28:39 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
It's already critically one of the most praised movies of the year from exclusive insider screenings.

https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/todd-phillips-joker-oscars-venice-film-fest

https://www.indiewire.com/2019/07/oscars-2020-tiff-awards-contenders-joker-jojo-rabbit-1202160225/
i'm going to venice tomorrow and i'm gonna try and get tickets to watch joker. they instantly sold out but i'll try queuing

i got tickets for ad astra and marriage story which is p cool

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BlueBoy675
08/28/19 6:29:37 PM
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>DC movie
>Good

pick 1

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Tyranthraxus
08/28/19 6:32:45 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
I don't know if I'd call that a good sign or not. Time will tell though.


Well it would be a useless sign if the insiders in question were like... friends and family of the production staff, but in this particular case they were showcased to people that run the most respected film conventions in the world. To use a slightly more relatable example, it would have been like they gave an advance screening to Ebert and he came out and said "This is probably going to win an Oscar" except Ebert had very little influence at the academy proper. These guys are essentially baselines for predicting who goes and who wins at the oscars.

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MrNintendo1213
08/28/19 6:45:54 PM
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Idk about the script but the trailers look really good to me.

Maybe it isnt great written out but actually watching it play it could be better.
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BobanMarjanovic
08/28/19 6:47:33 PM
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Cosmic_Diabetic posted...
I have no faith in the director.

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BLAKUboy
08/28/19 6:48:21 PM
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M_Live posted...
Idk, is society good or bad?

It is lived in.
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Parappa09
08/28/19 6:48:37 PM
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M_Live posted...
Idk, is society good or bad?
d e e p

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I Like Toast
08/28/19 6:49:08 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
These guys are essentially baselines for predicting who goes and who wins at the oscars.
Which is based on who bribes the best because it's all a sham.

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MrNintendo1213
08/28/19 6:51:01 PM
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I Like Toast posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
These guys are essentially baselines for predicting who goes and who wins at the oscars.
Which is based on who bribes the best because it's all a sham.


I always thought it was more like a popular vote thing, like being homecoming king.

Even if you haven't seen the movie, you hear from other cool kids around town.
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Tyranthraxus
08/28/19 6:54:26 PM
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I Like Toast posted...
Which is based on who bribes the best because it's all a sham.
If it was based on bribes Disney would win everything every year

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I Like Toast
08/28/19 7:10:22 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
If it was based on bribes Disney would win everything every year


https://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/09/movies/oscar-films-75-years-of-bribes-lies-and-overkill.html
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-35613630

There is no if. The only thing it says is Disney doesn't feel it generated more revenue then it cost.


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Tyranthraxus
08/28/19 7:18:00 PM
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What you're calling bribery is actually just targeted advertising. It says they're not even allowed to contact voters by email or telephone.

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Shablagoo
08/28/19 7:19:44 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
I think the overall film will be average to meh but Joaquin will have a great performance. He's the only reason why I'm going to watch it tbh.


This.

Although King of Comedys influence on it (and DeNiros presence to boot) also has me interested.
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08/28/19 7:57:14 PM
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Im sure itll be just fine.

I hate how much people are going to act like the Joker is sO rElAtAbLe on social media though
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I Like Toast
08/28/19 8:00:38 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
It says they're not even allowed to contact voters by email or telephone.
even if we pretended that this isn't a farce rule not enforced, that leaves only about a million other ways to communicate with people. You know like we're doing right now.

Sorry to burst your bubble, the Oscar's are just as corrupt as everything else.

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08/28/19 8:02:01 PM
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tullock
08/28/19 8:07:26 PM
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au_gold posted...
Joaquin Phoenix elevates anything hes in.


Dude is a phenomenal actor.
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