Current Events > New genetic links to same-sex sexuality found in huge study

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https://news.yahoo.com/genetic-links-same-sex-sexuality-182246399.html
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The article says genetics cover less than half of the influences on sexual behavior. Meaning theoretically it is the environment that a person is raised in that causes sexuality.

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I think arguing nature vs nurture is pointless anyway.
Does it really fucking matter why someone is gay?

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Tyranthraxus posted...

I think arguing nature vs nurture is pointless anyway.
Does it really fucking matter why someone is gay?

This should be the mentality, but people on both sides don't understand it.

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RunAwayCaterpie posted...

The article says genetics cover less than half of the influences on sexual behavior. Meaning theoretically it is the environment that a person is raised in that causes sexuality.

So I guess you can, theoretically, "pray the gay away", considering how manipulable environmental triggers are (as opposed to genetics).

I'm thrilled when multiple major attempts of research separately come to the same consensus that homosexuality and bisexuality are not the result of genetic anomaly, because it means bigots can't filter us out with petty eugenics.
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CRON posted...

Tyranthraxus posted...

I think arguing nature vs nurture is pointless anyway.
Does it really fucking matter why someone is gay?

This should be the mentality, but people on both sides don't understand it.

I think it's important to understand why something is as it is. Nothing wrong with being a certain way, but it is important to know why something happens (or is likely to happen).
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MaverickXeo posted...

I think it's important to understand why something is as it is. Nothing wrong with being a certain way, but it is important to know why something happens (or is likely to happen).

There's a difference between understanding something and arguing over what you don't understand because you prefer the explanation to be something specific.

Like no fucking pundit in the world ever had a giant argument with a legislative body over P=NP

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I thought the majority opinion was that it was developmental during pregnancy.

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RunAwayCaterpie posted...

The article says genetics cover less than half of the influences on sexual behavior. Meaning theoretically it is the environment that a person is raised in that causes sexuality.

You can also beat people into writing with their right hand instead of their left and they will learn. Still doesn't make it any less repugnant to do so.
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Average person: "We need a cure for cancer."

Scientists: " The cure for gayness is within our grasps!"
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The Admiral posted...

I thought the majority opinion was that it was developmental during pregnancy.

There's a statistic out there suggesting that the more male children from the same mother there are the more likely they are to be gay which suggests developmental issues but there's no real proof of it. Especially since infants cannot possibly even hope to understand sexuality so it's not like you can just ask them.

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Tyranthraxus posted...

I think arguing nature vs nurture is pointless anyway.
Does it really fucking matter why someone is gay?

Yes. What if it could be scientifically converted? What if someone can change their sexuality in the same way someone goes to a plastic surgeon to get a new nose? It could help a lot of people who aren't comfortable with their sexuality and choose to undergo that change.
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AngelSeven posted...

Yes. What if it could be scientifically converted? What if someone can change their sexuality in the same way someone goes to a plastic surgeon to get a new nose? It could help a lot of people who aren't comfortable with their sexuality and choose to undergo that change.

The only reason someone wouldn't be comfortable with their sexuality is because other people made them uncomfortable.

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Tyranthraxus posted...

AngelSeven posted...

Yes. What if it could be scientifically converted? What if someone can change their sexuality in the same way someone goes to a plastic surgeon to get a new nose? It could help a lot of people who aren't comfortable with their sexuality and choose to undergo that change.

The only reason someone wouldn't be comfortable with their sexuality is because other people made them uncomfortable.

Other people? Try society.
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AngelSeven posted...

Other people? Try society.

We can't live in a society until October

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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...

You can also beat people into writing with their right hand instead of their left and they will learn. Still doesn't make it any less repugnant to do so.

Yes, but these are two incomparable things. Hand dominance is from the wound while sexuality is likely from childhood. Both are set in stone by adulthood, but hand dominance is as soon as birth while sexuality is later.
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Likely because by the time someone can be classified as gay, their sexuality is permanent. It could be possible to influence a persons sexuality by environmental factor during formative years.


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JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...

Science doesnt support those programs.

Science doesn't support things that don't have data/unverifiable-untested.
Science also frowns upon unnecessary harm of research subjects.

But science would be more welcoming to the idea if data to back up the premise is present.

RunAwayCaterpie posted...

The article says genetics cover less than half of the influences on sexual behavior. Meaning theoretically it is the environment that a person is raised in that causes sexuality.

Some people out there: "So you're saying we can stop the gay?"
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Fuck who you want to fuck, DNA be damned.

Conservatives: how dare youth take hormones to make them feel more like their perceived gender!

Also conservatives: let's treat homosexuality early to make sure it never develops!

ClockworkHare posted...

I'm thrilled when multiple major attempts of research separately come to the same consensus that homosexuality and bisexuality are not the result of genetic anomaly, because it means bigots can't filter us out with petty eugenics.

Instea they can filter you out with pray away the gay if its a choice. Either way they will find something to latch onto.
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pistachio12 posted...

Conservatives: how dare youth take hormones to make them feel more like their perceived gender!

Also conservatives: let's treat homosexuality early to make sure it never develops!

What?

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pistachio12 posted...

Conservatives

Almost.
Conservatives: how it is now.
Reactionaries: how it used to be.

I think people are confusing direct genetic results with indirect results, and jumping to conclusions about mental or environmental factors. For example, check out these tame foxes.

http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20160912-a-soviet-scientist-created-the-only-tame-foxes-in-the-world

There is no gene or gene set for floppy ears, but the hormonal and chemical balances involved in breeding domesticated foxes are thought to result in floppy ears, too.
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