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Machete
09/07/19 12:01:02 PM
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fenderbender321 posted...
Petrichoric posted...
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I dont have a problem with people getting treatment. I have a problem with forcing everyone to pay for that treatment though.

So then you have a problem with people getting treatment


If we forced doctors to give treatment without being paid, would you say that anyone opposed to that is "against people getting treatment"?


I would be interested to see statistics about how many doctors chose to pursue that career exclusively on the perception of how much money they would make.
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UnfairRepresent
09/07/19 12:04:12 PM
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fenderbender321 posted...


The point is that you can wave the magic wand of government to try and solve all kinds of problems in so many different ways. My hypothetical was a different way to solve the problem than what you said. But if we are saying that a person must not want another to have treatment because they don't support government solution X, then we must make the same claim for somebody who doesn't support government solution Y. So if you disagree with being judged as such for supporting government solution Y, you must disagree with the claim for supporting government solution X.

No that's a complete fallacy

That's a false equivalence. Saying "You saying that me calling type 1 diabetics losers and not wanting my tax dollars to go into healthcare to treat them is bad is the same as me saying you want doctors to be unpaid slaves because you don't mind healthcare being part of tax."

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That's absurd.
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hockeybub89
09/07/19 12:04:21 PM
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There are ways besides government. This is why charitable rich people are lining up to pay everyone's medical bills so you never hear someone pass or delay treatment due to money.
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Petrichoric
09/07/19 12:39:07 PM
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fenderbender321 posted...
Petrichoric posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
I dont have a problem with people getting treatment. I have a problem with forcing everyone to pay for that treatment though.

So then you have a problem with people getting treatment


If we forced doctors to give treatment without being paid, would you say that anyone opposed to that is "against people getting treatment"?

Stupid strawman argument. No one is saying the doctors won't get paid
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UnfairRepresent
09/07/19 1:20:39 PM
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fenderbender321 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
fenderbender321 posted...


The point is that you can wave the magic wand of government to try and solve all kinds of problems in so many different ways. My hypothetical was a different way to solve the problem than what you said. But if we are saying that a person must not want another to have treatment because they don't support government solution X, then we must make the same claim for somebody who doesn't support government solution Y. So if you disagree with being judged as such for supporting government solution Y, you must disagree with the claim for supporting government solution X.

No that's a complete fallacy

That's a false equivalence. Saying "You saying that me calling type 1 diabetics losers and not wanting my tax dollars to go into healthcare to treat them is bad is the same as me saying you want doctors to be unpaid slaves because you don't mind healthcare being part of tax."

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That's absurd.


I am not saying they are the same. I am saying that you can't call one an instance of a person not wanting others to get treatment and not the other.

Yes you can. Easily
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HylianFox
09/07/19 1:57:35 PM
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We already knew this

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Ruvan22
09/07/19 2:59:45 PM
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fenderbender321 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
fenderbender321 posted...


The point is that you can wave the magic wand of government to try and solve all kinds of problems in so many different ways. My hypothetical was a different way to solve the problem than what you said. But if we are saying that a person must not want another to have treatment because they don't support government solution X, then we must make the same claim for somebody who doesn't support government solution Y. So if you disagree with being judged as such for supporting government solution Y, you must disagree with the claim for supporting government solution X.

No that's a complete fallacy

That's a false equivalence. Saying "You saying that me calling type 1 diabetics losers and not wanting my tax dollars to go into healthcare to treat them is bad is the same as me saying you want doctors to be unpaid slaves because you don't mind healthcare being part of tax."

..

That's absurd.


I am not saying they are the same. I am saying that you can't call one an instance of a person not wanting others to get treatment and not the other.

Yes you can. Easily


Okay. Why does it only sometimes apply?


You still haven't defined "loser" and why they are necessary to get people to "Want to play the game"?
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Ruvan22
09/07/19 3:58:40 PM
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fenderbender321 posted...
Ruvan22 posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
fenderbender321 posted...


The point is that you can wave the magic wand of government to try and solve all kinds of problems in so many different ways. My hypothetical was a different way to solve the problem than what you said. But if we are saying that a person must not want another to have treatment because they don't support government solution X, then we must make the same claim for somebody who doesn't support government solution Y. So if you disagree with being judged as such for supporting government solution Y, you must disagree with the claim for supporting government solution X.

No that's a complete fallacy

That's a false equivalence. Saying "You saying that me calling type 1 diabetics losers and not wanting my tax dollars to go into healthcare to treat them is bad is the same as me saying you want doctors to be unpaid slaves because you don't mind healthcare being part of tax."

..

That's absurd.


I am not saying they are the same. I am saying that you can't call one an instance of a person not wanting others to get treatment and not the other.

Yes you can. Easily


Okay. Why does it only sometimes apply?


You still haven't defined "loser" and why they are necessary to get people to "Want to play the game"?


Loser means lots of different things. I dont have 900 pages worth of space to write out just the introduction to what I'm saying.


So why state there "needs to be losers" if you don't want to describe what they are?

If I said "This new product I'm selling is really popular with the 56.24 15.26s!!!" I'd need to define what the 56.24 15.26s are to convince people of my point - as you seem to be trying to do with your original statement.

If you want to be brief/specific, you could define what "losers" are in the healthcare discussion and why they "need to exist" for "people to want to play the game"
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Petrichoric
09/07/19 4:32:41 PM
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fenderbender321 posted...
Losers and winners is basically a cinnamon for saying that some people should be better off than others.

Cinnamon
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KobeSystem
09/07/19 5:12:49 PM
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Petrichoric posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
Losers and winners is basically a cinnamon for saying that some people should be better off than others.

Cinnamon

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Kolibri X
09/07/19 5:17:55 PM
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Anonymous source.

In the trash bin it goes.

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Ruvan22
09/07/19 6:02:42 PM
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fenderbender321 posted...
Losers and winners is basically a cinnamon for saying that some people should be better off than others.


Ok - so why do you believe that some people *should* be worse off than others? (I'm assuming you mean through no fault of their own - correct me if I'm wrong)
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Gobstoppers12
09/07/19 6:05:33 PM
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This article has been written, basically word for word, at least once a month for the past three years. It's kinda losing its punch.
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Delirious_Beard
09/07/19 6:07:50 PM
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holy shit there's 3 visible posts on page 3 lmfao
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Machete
09/07/19 6:09:18 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
This article has been written, basically word for word, at least once a month for the past three years. It's kinda losing its punch.


Has Naruto ever lost his punch in your fanfiction?
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Gobstoppers12
09/07/19 6:12:11 PM
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Machete posted...
Gobstoppers12 posted...
This article has been written, basically word for word, at least once a month for the past three years. It's kinda losing its punch.


Has Naruto ever lost his punch in your fanfiction?

Naruto is only in like ten scenes.
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MudKip_Master
09/07/19 6:13:31 PM
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fenderbender321 posted...
Yet, he is still a better choice than anything the Democrats have to offer. What does that tell us?


True
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Machete
09/07/19 6:14:00 PM
#74:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
Machete posted...
Gobstoppers12 posted...
This article has been written, basically word for word, at least once a month for the past three years. It's kinda losing its punch.


Has Naruto ever lost his punch in your fanfiction?

Naruto is only in like ten scenes.


how many is trump in?
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Petrichoric
09/07/19 6:38:14 PM
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Machete posted...
Gobstoppers12 posted...
Machete posted...
Gobstoppers12 posted...
This article has been written, basically word for word, at least once a month for the past three years. It's kinda losing its punch.


Has Naruto ever lost his punch in your fanfiction?

Naruto is only in like ten scenes.


how many is trump in?

Gobbys writing is Emo Dude slash fiction with Trump, so all of them
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Gobstoppers12
09/07/19 6:56:35 PM
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Petrichoric posted...
Machete posted...
Gobstoppers12 posted...
Machete posted...
Gobstoppers12 posted...
This article has been written, basically word for word, at least once a month for the past three years. It's kinda losing its punch.


Has Naruto ever lost his punch in your fanfiction?

Naruto is only in like ten scenes.


how many is trump in?

Gobbys writing is Emo Dude slash fiction with Trump, so all of them

Literally zero. Why do you guys just randomly make shit up?
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marthsheretoo
09/07/19 7:15:54 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
Literally zero. Why do you guys just randomly make s*** up?


It's just a joke lol, triggered cons taking everything so seriously
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BilalPowell
09/07/19 7:18:12 PM
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Trump's just too smart for everyone. That's why they think he's dumb. I used to think he said some dumb things, but then he won the election.
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Machete
09/07/19 7:18:21 PM
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lol
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Petrichoric
09/07/19 7:18:51 PM
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BilalPowell posted...
Trump's just too smart for everyone

Yeah. No. Only morons actually believe he's playing 5d chess at this point
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BilalPowell
09/07/19 7:27:38 PM
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Everyone called Bill Gates a moron at first too.
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Petrichoric
09/07/19 7:28:19 PM
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BilalPowell posted...
Everyone called Bill Gates a moron at first too.

What a stupid comparison
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BilalPowell
09/07/19 7:29:18 PM
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Petrichoric posted...
BilalPowell posted...
Everyone called Bill Gates a moron at first too.

What a stupid comparison

Nah it's accurate. People thought Gates buying all those programs was never gonna make him rich. People thought Trump making controversial statements would never make him president.
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SwaggieBeIIe462
09/07/19 7:30:23 PM
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Anti-trumps keeping at it
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Machete
09/07/19 7:32:10 PM
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BilalPowell posted...
Petrichoric posted...
BilalPowell posted...
Everyone called Bill Gates a moron at first too.

What a stupid comparison

Nah it's accurate. People thought Gates buying all those programs was never gonna make him rich. People thought Trump making controversial statements would never make him president.


"He won because he appealed to the lowest common denominator! TAKE THAT, higher denominators!"
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Petrichoric
09/07/19 7:33:03 PM
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BilalPowell posted...
Petrichoric posted...
BilalPowell posted...
Everyone called Bill Gates a moron at first too.

What a stupid comparison

Nah it's accurate. People thought Gates buying all those programs was never gonna make him rich. People thought Trump making controversial statements would never make him president.

Petrichoric posted...
What a stupid comparison
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YourDrunkFather
09/07/19 7:34:19 PM
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fenderbender321 posted...
Losers and winners is basically a cinnamon


Mmm

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bover_87
09/07/19 7:39:16 PM
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please stop feeding fender
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Gobstoppers12
09/07/19 7:39:58 PM
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marthsheretoo posted...
Gobstoppers12 posted...
Literally zero. Why do you guys just randomly make s*** up?


It's just a joke lol, triggered cons taking everything so seriously

It's a joke until it's insisted upon. There are people around here who like to claim that I write about Naruto as if he's some kind of aryan purist or some garbage like that. Others jump on the bandwagon of making the claim, too, and the fact it's a fucking lie never seems to stop anybody from agreeing that it's true.

It's a bit exhausting to be surrounded by liars, to tell you the truth.
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Machete
09/07/19 7:42:47 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
There are people around here who like to claim that I write about Naruto as if he's some kind of aryan purist or some garbage like that.


what the fuck?

I've mentioned your Naruto fanfiction in a negative light in the past multiple times including less than an hour ago and I've never once even considered that angle. If you are serious, I would hope that you know that I never had any weird ass race angle like that and I hadn't even considered such a thing until this post
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burns112233
09/07/19 7:49:16 PM
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You should not be able to run for president past the age of 65.
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BilalPowell
09/07/19 7:51:15 PM
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burns112233 posted...
You should not be able to run for president past the age of 65.

That's ageist. Not everyone declines at the same time. 35 min is also ageist.
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paerarru
09/09/19 8:50:23 AM
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fenderbender321 posted...
There needs to be winners and losers in the game of life,

Oh, there are. The question is do you know which is which. Do you know why.
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Notti
09/11/19 1:52:58 AM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
It's a bit exhausting to be surrounded by liars, to tell you the truth.


Says that... while supporting Trump.
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AngryRedHatter
09/11/19 6:19:12 AM
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A single, ANONYMOUS person made a complaint. As always, the comments would have more weight if a name was tied to them. We can't really trust the legitimacy of what was said here.
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Machete
09/11/19 11:20:04 AM
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AngryRedHatter posted...
A single, ANONYMOUS person made a complaint. As always, the comments would have more weight if a name was tied to them. We can't really trust the legitimacy of what was said here.


We can't trust the legitimacy of anything trump says ever.
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Shablagoo
09/12/19 9:03:40 AM
#97:


fenderbender321 posted...
Losers and winners is basically a cinnamon for saying that some people should be better off than others.


God bless you
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DanHaren2019
09/12/19 9:23:23 AM
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Yea hes a dumbass.
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