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Jakyl25 09/25/19 12:14:56 PM #1:	Man politics is BO-RING --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:927924629] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>Man politics is BO-RING</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 09/25/19 12:19:00 PM #2:	Mega Mana posted... Jakyl25 posted... LOL Rudy literally saying they meddled in Ukraine because it would be very, very beneficial to my client. He is THE WORST lawyer Need link because holy ** Its actually what he said he was going to Ukraine for BACK IN MAY that ended up leading to the call https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/09/us/politics/giuliani-ukraine-trump.html Were not meddling in an election, were meddling in an investigation, which we have a right to do, Mr. Giuliani said in an interview on Thursday when asked about the parallel to the special counsels inquiry. Theres nothing illegal about it, he said. Somebody could say its improper. And this isnt foreign policy Im asking them to do an investigation that theyre doing already and that other people are telling them to stop. And Im going to give them reasons why they shouldnt stop it because that information will be very, very helpful to my client, and may turn out to be helpful to my government. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:927924807] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mega Mana posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>LOL Rudy literally saying they meddled in Ukraine because it would be very, very beneficial to my client. He is THE WORST lawyer</quote> Need link because holy **</quote> Its actually what he said he was going to Ukraine for BACK IN MAY that ended up leading to the call https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/09/us/politics/giuliani-ukraine-trump.html <quote> Were not meddling in an election, were meddling in an investigation, which we have a right to do, Mr. Giuliani said in an interview on Thursday when asked about the parallel to the special counsels inquiry. Theres nothing illegal about it, he said. Somebody could say its improper. And this isnt foreign policy Im asking them to do an investigation that theyre doing already and that other people are telling them to stop. And Im going to give them reasons why they shouldnt stop it because that information will be very, very helpful to my client, and may turn out to be helpful to my government.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 09/25/19 12:22:59 PM #3:	"I would like you to do us a favor, though." That line of the "transcript" is enough of a quid pro quo unless you are illiterate. And after the sharpie debacle, does anyone seriously think that the administration isn't trying to cover this up to make them look as good as possible? Even in their version of events, they admit to withholding aid that Congress approved of in order to have a foreign power impact upcoming elections. --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:927924976] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>"I would like you to do us a favor, though." That line of the "transcript" is enough of a quid pro quo unless you are illiterate. And after the sharpie debacle, does anyone seriously think that the administration isn't trying to cover this up to make them look as good as possible? Even in their version of events, they admit to withholding aid that Congress approved of in order to have a foreign power impact upcoming elections.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 09/25/19 12:24:28 PM #4:	He should have used the sharpie again and had it read I would like you to do us a fLavor He was just commissioning some Ukrainian ice cream! --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:927925042] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>He should have used the sharpie again and had it read I would like you to do us a fLavor He was just commissioning some Ukrainian ice cream!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 09/25/19 12:25:22 PM #5:	Just bringing this over here: https://twitter.com/costareports/status/1176865152899125249?s=19 --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:927925080] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>Just bringing this over here: https://twitter.com/costareports/status/1176865152899125249?s=19</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 09/25/19 12:26:18 PM #6:	So let's analyze this. First off, Article II of the Constitution places the President in charge of enforcing the laws of the United States. Not the Justice Department, not the Attorney General, the President. The President can certainly hire people to help him (the Justice Department) and can listen to the advice of an Attorney General, but ultimately the President is in charge. And why is that? Well, he is the one who is accountable to the People at the end of the day, because he is elected and subject to elections and the others are not. In the 2016 debates, Hillary said that she was glad that Trump wasn't in charge of law enforcement in this country. Trump responded, "because you'd be in jail." Now, Democrats jumped all over it because they said it was a promise to investigate Hillary, but actually, that isn't what Trump said. What he actually said was that if he in charge of law enforcement at that moment instead of Obama, Hillary would be in jail. Now, as it turns out, Obama's justice department investigated Hillary, and refused to prosecute her. Since we don't believe in investigating people for the same crimes multiple times in this country, Trump couldn't do anything about it once he took office. But he could change the policies to make sure these crimes didn't happen again in the future. And it looks like he did. Under Obama/Biden, Biden's son committed a crime in Ukraine that probably had enough ties to the US to bring it within US jurisdiction on at least some aspects of it. Instead of investigating the crime, Biden used the full force of the United States government to cover up the crime. Now, under Trump, the investigation is proceeding. And Democrats are indignant and want to impeach the President for daring to actually do his job. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:927925120] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>So let's analyze this. First off, Article II of the Constitution places the President in charge of enforcing the laws of the United States. Not the Justice Department, not the Attorney General, the President. The President can certainly hire people to help him (the Justice Department) and can listen to the advice of an Attorney General, but ultimately the President is in charge. And why is that? Well, he is the one who is accountable to the People at the end of the day, because he is elected and subject to elections and the others are not. In the 2016 debates, Hillary said that she was glad that Trump wasn't in charge of law enforcement in this country. Trump responded, "because you'd be in jail." Now, Democrats jumped all over it because they said it was a promise to investigate Hillary, but actually, that isn't what Trump said. What he actually said was that if he in charge of law enforcement at that moment instead of Obama, Hillary would be in jail. Now, as it turns out, Obama's justice department investigated Hillary, and refused to prosecute her. Since we don't believe in investigating people for the same crimes multiple times in this country, Trump couldn't do anything about it once he took office. But he could change the policies to make sure these crimes didn't happen again in the future. And it looks like he did. Under Obama/Biden, Biden's son committed a crime in Ukraine that probably had enough ties to the US to bring it within US jurisdiction on at least some aspects of it. Instead of investigating the crime, Biden used the full force of the United States government to cover up the crime. Now, under Trump, the investigation is proceeding. And Democrats are indignant and want to impeach the President for daring to actually do his job.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 09/25/19 12:27:28 PM #7:	TheRock1525 posted... Just bringing this over here: https://twitter.com/costareports/status/1176865152899125249?s=19 Mitch is gonna spit on Murkowskis sandwich if she doesnt toe the party line, whatever it is that he can come up with in the next hour --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:927925158] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote>Just bringing this over here: https://twitter.com/costareports/status/1176865152899125249?s=19</quote> Mitch is gonna spit on Murkowskis sandwich if she doesnt toe the party line, whatever it is that he can come up with in the next hour</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 09/25/19 12:28:25 PM #8:	Peace___Frog posted... "I would like you to do us a favor, though." That line of the "transcript" is enough of a quid pro quo unless you are illiterate. And after the sharpie debacle, does anyone seriously think that the administration isn't trying to cover this up to make them look as good as possible? Jesus Christ. The favor isn't in reference to Biden. It's in reference to Crowdstrike, a cybersecurity company. Cognitive dissonance at its finest. --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:927925202] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>Peace___Frog posted... </cite> <quote>"I would like you to do us a favor, though." That line of the "transcript" is enough of a quid pro quo unless you are illiterate. And after the sharpie debacle, does anyone seriously think that the administration isn't trying to cover this up to make them look as good as possible? </quote>Jesus Christ. The favor isn't in reference to Biden. It's in reference to Crowdstrike, a cybersecurity company. Cognitive dissonance at its finest. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 09/25/19 12:28:39 PM #9:	Jakyl25 posted... He should have used the sharpie again and had it read I would like you to do us a fLavor He was just commissioning some Ukrainian ice cream! Ukrainian honey cake is pretty good! --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:927925213] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>He should have used the sharpie again and had it read I would like you to do us a fLavor He was just commissioning some Ukrainian ice cream!</quote> Ukrainian honey cake is pretty good!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 09/25/19 12:29:31 PM #10:	https://twitter.com/jmartnyt/status/1176869303355752448?s=21 NEW: @MittRomney tells reporters what weve seen from the transcript is deeply troubling but declines to endorse impeachment inquiry, wants to let process play out. You guys like Romney, right? --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:927925265] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/jmartnyt/status/1176869303355752448?s=21 <quote> NEW: @MittRomney tells reporters what weve seen from the transcript is deeply troubling but declines to endorse impeachment inquiry, wants to let process play out.</quote> You guys like Romney, right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 09/25/19 12:36:10 PM #11:	No one really likes Mitt Romney. 95% of his appeal was that he was not a Democrat. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:927925572] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>No one really likes Mitt Romney. 95% of his appeal was that he was not a Democrat.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GuessMyUserName 09/25/19 12:41:07 PM #12:	GuessMyUserName posted... speaking of, wow Warren is really doing well in the polls these days and according to latest Quinnipiac she's finally getting serious support from black americans - now 19% - which is significant since that's a demo she's been slagging all the recent good news for Warren making me wanna check on the aggregator and woahhh yeah these datapoints are indeed materializing to a significant boosting period for Warren having started in the last week Speaking of, realclearpolitics aggregate now even has -- in Iowa -- Warren ahead of Biden, first time Biden's not been on top! also latest NH Monmouth: https://www.politico.com/f/?id=0000016d-6568-d8ed-a36d-ede817180000 (open) Warren 18% > Biden 15% > Sanders 8% (out of just the top 6 - with Butti/Harris/Yang) Warren 29% > Biden 24% > (undecided 18%) > Sanders 13% (just the top 3) Warren 39% > Biden 28% > Sanders 14% net favourability also well in Warren's uh, favour (repeat, NH poll, but worth noting til now Warren was still 3rd in aggregate unlike Iowa where Bernie's been down since July and even sub-Harris through August) --- I request affiliated many pipes. Been a bad girl, I know I am. And I'm so hot, I need a fan. I don't want a boy, I need a man. <cite>GuessMyUserName posted [p:927925783] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote><cite>GuessMyUserName posted...</cite> <quote>speaking of, wow Warren is really doing well in the polls these days and according to latest Quinnipiac she's finally getting serious support from black americans - now 19% - which is significant since that's a demo she's been slagging all the recent good news for Warren making me wanna check on the aggregator and woahhh yeah these datapoints are indeed materializing to a significant boosting period for Warren having started in the last week</quote> Speaking of, realclearpolitics aggregate now even has -- in Iowa -- Warren ahead of Biden, first time Biden's not been on top! also latest NH Monmouth: https://www.politico.com/f/?id=0000016d-6568-d8ed-a36d-ede817180000 <quote>(open) Warren 18% > Biden 15% > Sanders 8% (out of just the top 6 - with Butti/Harris/Yang) Warren 29% > Biden 24% > (undecided 18%) > Sanders 13% (just the top 3) Warren 39% > Biden 28% > Sanders 14%</quote> net favourability also well in Warren's uh, favour (repeat, NH poll, but worth noting til now Warren was still 3rd in aggregate unlike Iowa where Bernie's been down since July and even sub-Harris through August)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 09/25/19 12:41:12 PM #13:	red sox 777 posted... No one really likes Mitt Romney. 95% of his appeal was that he was not a Democrat. I like Mitt Romney. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Division 2 <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:927925785] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>red sox 777 posted... </cite> <quote>No one really likes Mitt Romney. 95% of his appeal was that he was not a Democrat.</quote>I like Mitt Romney. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 09/25/19 12:44:51 PM #14:	So uh The white house meant to email their talking points for damage control to House Republicans They accidentally sent it to House Democrats?????? --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:927925952] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>So uh The white house meant to email their talking points for damage control to House Republicans They accidentally sent it to House Democrats??????</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoomTheGyarados 09/25/19 12:45:29 PM #15:	Peace___Frog posted... So uh The white house meant to email their talking points for damage control to House Republicans They accidentally sent it to House Democrats?????? source? --- Sir Chris <cite>DoomTheGyarados posted [p:927925984] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>Peace___Frog posted...</cite> <quote>So uh The white house meant to email their talking points for damage control to House Republicans They accidentally sent it to House Democrats??????</quote> source?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeroDelTiempo17 09/25/19 12:46:24 PM #16:	DoomTheGyarados posted... source? https://twitter.com/AndrewDesiderio/status/1176884014768185344?s=19 Source is "source" --- DPOblivion was far more determined than me. <cite>HeroDelTiempo17 posted [p:927926022] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>DoomTheGyarados posted... </cite> <quote>source?</quote> https://twitter.com/AndrewDesiderio/status/1176884014768185344?s=19 Source is "source" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 09/25/19 12:47:22 PM #17:	DoomTheGyarados posted... Peace___Frog posted... So uh The white house meant to email their talking points for damage control to House Republicans They accidentally sent it to House Democrats?????? source? Not a great one, as it's anonymous and Twitter https://twitter.com/AndrewDesiderio/status/1176884014768185344 Hilarious that we can't immediately trash the idea, regardless --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:927926073] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>DoomTheGyarados posted...</cite> <quote>Peace___Frog posted...</cite> <quote>So uh The white house meant to email their talking points for damage control to House Republicans They accidentally sent it to House Democrats??????</quote> source?</quote> Not a great one, as it's anonymous and Twitter https://twitter.com/AndrewDesiderio/status/1176884014768185344 Hilarious that we can't immediately trash the idea, regardless</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GuessMyUserName 09/25/19 1:01:16 PM #18:	more accurately would be per source to Politico 9-month congressional reporter Andrew Desiderio calling it entirely anonymous would be inaccurate with Desiderio seeing fit to tie his name to it - not that you have to take his word for definite truth, but he would be a "source" in itself. --- I request affiliated many pipes. Been a bad girl, I know I am. And I'm so hot, I need a fan. I don't want a boy, I need a man. <cite>GuessMyUserName posted [p:927926697] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>more accurately would be per source to Politico 9-month congressional reporter Andrew Desiderio calling it entirely anonymous would be inaccurate with Desiderio seeing fit to tie his name to it - not that you have to take his word for definite truth, but he would be a "source" in itself.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 09/25/19 1:11:21 PM #19:	Copying from the end of the last topic: Corrik, even if Trump was just making a friendly request of Ukraine to investigate Biden for something that he actually did (which is not the case); it would STILL be an impeachable offense because the president isnt supposed to fucking use the power of their office to solicit for its assistance in their reelection. Its not difficult to understand! As it happens, Trump had put a hold on aid to Ukraine before this call, so there was an implied threat which the Ukrainians understood, even if you were to laughable argue that that wasnt Trumps intent with the bold. --- Congrats to Advokaiser for winning the CBX Guru Challenge! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:927927133] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>Copying from the end of the last topic: Corrik, even if Trump was just making a friendly request of Ukraine to investigate Biden for something that he actually did (which is not the case); it would STILL be an impeachable offense because the president isnt supposed to fucking use the power of their office to solicit for its assistance in their reelection. Its not difficult to understand! As it happens, Trump had put a hold on aid to Ukraine before this call, so there was an implied threat which the Ukrainians understood, even if you were to laughable argue that that wasnt Trumps intent with the bold.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 09/25/19 1:18:55 PM #20:	Reading the transcript, Trump also seems to be under the impression that Crowdstrike is Ukrainian and is also requesting that Zelensky give him the DNC email server?? That's a totally new fucked up thing that he's admitting to by releasing this transcript. And Trump also says he'll loop in Barr in addition to Rudy, so add Barr to the list of people who need to be investigated for impeachment. --- Congrats to Advokaiser for winning the CBX Guru Challenge! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:927927438] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>Reading the transcript, Trump also seems to be under the impression that Crowdstrike is Ukrainian and is also requesting that Zelensky give him the DNC email server?? That's a totally new fucked up thing that he's admitting to by releasing this transcript. And Trump also says he'll loop in Barr in addition to Rudy, so add Barr to the list of people who need to be investigated for impeachment.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 09/25/19 1:19:25 PM #21:	LordoftheMorons posted... Corrik, even if Trump was just making a friendly request of Ukraine to investigate Biden for something that he actually did (which is not the case); it would STILL be an impeachable offense because the president isnt supposed to f*ing use the power of their office to solicit for its assistance in their reelection. Its not difficult to understand! So if there were reports that Biden murdered a bunch of Ukranian villagers in 2015, Trump is not allowed to request their government investigate that because Biden is a presidential candidate? Come on now. --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:927927462] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>LordoftheMorons posted... </cite> <quote>Corrik, even if Trump was just making a friendly request of Ukraine to investigate Biden for something that he actually did (which is not the case); it would STILL be an impeachable offense because the president isnt supposed to f*ing use the power of their office to solicit for its assistance in their reelection. Its not difficult to understand!</quote>So if there were reports that Biden murdered a bunch of Ukranian villagers in 2015, Trump is not allowed to request their government investigate that because Biden is a presidential candidate? Come on now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeroDelTiempo17 09/25/19 1:20:04 PM #22:	Can't add Barr to a list he's already on --- DPOblivion was far more determined than me. <cite>HeroDelTiempo17 posted [p:927927494] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>Can't add Barr to a list he's already on </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 09/25/19 1:22:20 PM #23:	Nelson_Mandela posted... LordoftheMorons posted... Corrik, even if Trump was just making a friendly request of Ukraine to investigate Biden for something that he actually did (which is not the case); it would STILL be an impeachable offense because the president isnt supposed to f*ing use the power of their office to solicit for its assistance in their reelection. Its not difficult to understand! So if there were reports that Biden murdered a bunch of Ukranian villagers in 2015, Trump is not allowed to request their government investigate that because Biden is a presidential candidate? Come on now. He shouldn't, no. Presumably the Ukrainians wouldn't have dropped such an investigation in the first place. But this is a much simpler situation, where even what Biden is (non-credibly) accused of is strictly less bad that what Trump has done here to try and pressure Ukraine into investigating him, since it would have been for personal gain rather than to influence an election. --- Congrats to Advokaiser for winning the CBX Guru Challenge! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:927927589] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote>LordoftheMorons posted... </cite> <quote>Corrik, even if Trump was just making a friendly request of Ukraine to investigate Biden for something that he actually did (which is not the case); it would STILL be an impeachable offense because the president isnt supposed to f*ing use the power of their office to solicit for its assistance in their reelection. Its not difficult to understand!</quote>So if there were reports that Biden murdered a bunch of Ukranian villagers in 2015, Trump is not allowed to request their government investigate that because Biden is a presidential candidate? Come on now. </quote> He shouldn't, no. Presumably the Ukrainians wouldn't have dropped such an investigation in the first place. But this is a much simpler situation, where even what Biden is (non-credibly) accused of is strictly less bad that what Trump has done here to try and pressure Ukraine into investigating him, since it would have been for personal gain rather than to influence an election.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 09/25/19 1:27:18 PM #24:	Also very legal and very cool: https://twitter.com/gregpmiller/status/1176888276025667584 --- Congrats to Advokaiser for winning the CBX Guru Challenge! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:927927797] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>Also very legal and very cool: https://twitter.com/gregpmiller/status/1176888276025667584</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeroDelTiempo17 09/25/19 1:27:25 PM #25:	LordoftheMorons posted... He shouldn't, no. Presumably the Ukrainians wouldn't have dropped such an investigation in the first place. Ah, but you're forgetting Ukraine is corrupt and drops investigations all the time. In fact, they are so corrupt that they weren't even properly investigating Hunter Biden during the time Joe Biden was calling for their head prosecutor, who had halted the investigation, to resign! Someone must take these monsters to task. --- DPOblivion was far more determined than me. <cite>HeroDelTiempo17 posted [p:927927804] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>LordoftheMorons posted... </cite> <quote>He shouldn't, no. Presumably the Ukrainians wouldn't have dropped such an investigation in the first place.</quote> Ah, but you're forgetting Ukraine is corrupt and drops investigations all the time. In fact, they are so corrupt that they weren't even properly investigating Hunter Biden during the time Joe Biden was calling for their head prosecutor, who had halted the investigation, to resign! Someone must take these monsters to task. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 09/25/19 1:28:58 PM #26:	HeroDelTiempo17 posted... Ah, but you're forgetting Ukraine is corrupt and drops investigations all the time. In fact, they are so corrupt that they weren't even properly investigating Hunter Biden during the time Joe Biden was calling for their head prosecutor, who had halted the investigation, to resign! This is literally true --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:927927883] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>HeroDelTiempo17 posted... </cite> <quote> Ah, but you're forgetting Ukraine is corrupt and drops investigations all the time. In fact, they are so corrupt that they weren't even properly investigating Hunter Biden during the time Joe Biden was calling for their head prosecutor, who had halted the investigation, to resign!</quote>This is literally true </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeroDelTiempo17 09/25/19 1:34:19 PM #27:	Yes, it is literally true that the prosecutor Biden (along with most of the western world) wanted to resign, was corrupt and not investigating matters of corruption like the company Hunter Biden worked for. --- DPOblivion was far more determined than me. <cite>HeroDelTiempo17 posted [p:927928129] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>Yes, it is literally true that the prosecutor Biden (along with most of the western world) wanted to resign, was corrupt and not investigating matters of corruption like the company Hunter Biden worked for. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 09/25/19 1:34:32 PM #28:	Ukraine only stopped the investigation because Biden pressured them to stop. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:927928138] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>Ukraine only stopped the investigation because Biden pressured them to stop.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 09/25/19 1:34:38 PM #29:	Nelson_Mandela posted... HeroDelTiempo17 posted... Ah, but you're forgetting Ukraine is corrupt and drops investigations all the time. In fact, they are so corrupt that they weren't even properly investigating Hunter Biden during the time Joe Biden was calling for their head prosecutor, who had halted the investigation, to resign! This is literally true If you're admitting that the prosecutor was no longer looking into the company Hunter was involved with, why would it be to Biden's personal advantage to have him replaced with a less corrupt prosecutor? --- Congrats to Advokaiser for winning the CBX Guru Challenge! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:927928146] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote>HeroDelTiempo17 posted... </cite> <quote> Ah, but you're forgetting Ukraine is corrupt and drops investigations all the time. In fact, they are so corrupt that they weren't even properly investigating Hunter Biden during the time Joe Biden was calling for their head prosecutor, who had halted the investigation, to resign!</quote>This is literally true </quote> If you're admitting that the prosecutor was no longer looking into the company Hunter was involved with, why would it be to Biden's personal advantage to have him replaced with a less corrupt prosecutor?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 09/25/19 1:34:54 PM #30:	Also fun: https://twitter.com/jbenton/status/1176864974779478016 --- Congrats to Advokaiser for winning the CBX Guru Challenge! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:927928156] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>Also fun: https://twitter.com/jbenton/status/1176864974779478016</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeroDelTiempo17 09/25/19 1:36:58 PM #31:	red sox 777 posted... Ukraine only stopped the investigation because Biden pressured them to stop. Patently false. It had been stalled for at least a year prior to Biden's visit and the prosecutor's resignation months later. --- DPOblivion was far more determined than me. <cite>HeroDelTiempo17 posted [p:927928252] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>red sox 777 posted... </cite> <quote>Ukraine only stopped the investigation because Biden pressured them to stop.</quote>Patently false. It had been stalled for at least a year prior to Biden's visit and the prosecutor's resignation months later. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 09/25/19 1:37:12 PM #32:	red sox 777 posted... Ukraine only stopped the investigation because Biden pressured them to stop. They stopped it well before Biden applied any pressure: bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-16/ ukraine-prosecutor-says-no-evidence-of-wrongdoing-by-bidens (remove space) --- Congrats to Advokaiser for winning the CBX Guru Challenge! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:927928262] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>red sox 777 posted...</cite> <quote>Ukraine only stopped the investigation because Biden pressured them to stop.</quote> They stopped it well before Biden applied any pressure: bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-16/ ukraine-prosecutor-says-no-evidence-of-wrongdoing-by-bidens (remove space)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 09/25/19 1:39:38 PM #33:	LordoftheMorons posted... If you're admitting that the prosecutor was no longer looking into the company Hunter was involved with, why would it be to Biden's personal advantage to have him replaced with a less corrupt prosecutor? I personally don't think Biden did anything wrong. I think Trump is a moronic conspiracy theorist and legitimately believes there was reason to be suspicious of this. Even though he is almost assuredly incorrect, he was elected as president and rightfully felt that it was his duty to investigate career politicians that he thinks might be corrupt. It's certainly not an impeachable offense to fulfill his campaign promises. Biden being revealed as "dirty" during an election year is just a bonus for him. I honestly believe that. --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:927928362] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>LordoftheMorons posted... </cite> <quote>If you're admitting that the prosecutor was no longer looking into the company Hunter was involved with, why would it be to Biden's personal advantage to have him replaced with a less corrupt prosecutor?</quote>I personally don't think Biden did anything wrong. I think Trump is a moronic conspiracy theorist and legitimately believes there was reason to be suspicious of this. Even though he is almost assuredly incorrect, he was elected as president and rightfully felt that it was his duty to investigate career politicians that he thinks might be corrupt. It's certainly not an impeachable offense to fulfill his campaign promises. Biden being revealed as "dirty" during an election year is just a bonus for him. I honestly believe that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 09/25/19 1:45:27 PM #34:	Furthermore, this is exactly why I think Trump is going to CRUSH 2020 now. "I told you I would drain the swamp, and when I tried to do so, these career politicians tried to impeach me. BUT I WONT STOP FIGHTING CORRUPT POLITICIANS." That's going to play extremely well against pretty much any candidate except for Bernie (and Yang!). --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:927928619] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>Furthermore, this is exactly why I think Trump is going to CRUSH 2020 now. "I told you I would drain the swamp, and when I tried to do so, these career politicians tried to impeach me. BUT I WONT STOP FIGHTING CORRUPT POLITICIANS." That's going to play extremely well against pretty much any candidate except for Bernie (and Yang!). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 09/25/19 1:46:50 PM #35:	Well, if Biden is innocent, then you should have no problem with an investigation to find out, right? Since people seem to want to investigate Trump all the time. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:927928678] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>Well, if Biden is innocent, then you should have no problem with an investigation to find out, right? Since people seem to want to investigate Trump all the time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 09/25/19 1:47:19 PM #36:	Like I said before, anyone who was going to vote Trump already decided forever ago. Literally all that matters is that the Dems convince the people who will only vote Dem but dont always Vote to come out. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:927928698] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>Like I said before, anyone who was going to vote Trump already decided forever ago. Literally all that matters is that the Dems convince the people who will only vote Dem but dont always Vote to come out.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 09/25/19 1:48:30 PM #37:	Nelson_Mandela posted... Furthermore, this is exactly why I think Trump is going to CRUSH 2020 now. "I told you I would drain the swamp, and when I tried to do so, these career politicians tried to impeach me. BUT I WONT STOP FIGHTING CORRUPT POLITICIANS." That's going to play extremely well against pretty much any candidate except for Bernie (and Yang!). Bingo. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:927928752] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote>Furthermore, this is exactly why I think Trump is going to CRUSH 2020 now. "I told you I would drain the swamp, and when I tried to do so, these career politicians tried to impeach me. BUT I WONT STOP FIGHTING CORRUPT POLITICIANS." That's going to play extremely well against pretty much any candidate except for Bernie (and Yang!). </quote> Bingo.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UItimaterializer 09/25/19 1:52:11 PM #38:	Stock market went up once the transcript came out. This issue is over. Financial speculators and betting markets always know first. --- Get the X out. Vinateri was using his god powers on the Pats and then was like "Wait I'm a Colt now lol" and now you have it. <cite>UItimaterializer posted [p:927928925] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>Stock market went up once the transcript came out. This issue is over. Financial speculators and betting markets always know first.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeroDelTiempo17 09/25/19 1:53:17 PM #39:	red sox 777 posted... Well, if Biden is innocent, then you should have no problem with an investigation to find out, right? Since people seem to want to investigate Trump all the time. Well, since the resignation, Ukraine has already investigated and cleared Hunter Biden on involvement in the corruption scandal. Ukraine's only remaining concern is that they don't know if he paid US taxes on the money he made, and they're cooperating on that front. --- DPOblivion was far more determined than me. <cite>HeroDelTiempo17 posted [p:927928973] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>red sox 777 posted... </cite> <quote>Well, if Biden is innocent, then you should have no problem with an investigation to find out, right? Since people seem to want to investigate Trump all the time.</quote> Well, since the resignation, Ukraine has already investigated and cleared Hunter Biden on involvement in the corruption scandal. Ukraine's only remaining concern is that they don't know if he paid US taxes on the money he made, and they're cooperating on that front. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Maniac64 09/25/19 1:54:46 PM #40:	red sox 777 posted... Well, if Biden is innocent, then you should have no problem with an investigation to find out, right? Since people seem to want to investigate Trump all the time. Yes, absolutely. I have no issue with investigating Biden. Please start immediately. --- "Hope is allowed to be stupid, unwise, and naive." ~Sir Chris <cite>Maniac64 posted [p:927929040] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>red sox 777 posted...</cite> <quote>Well, if Biden is innocent, then you should have no problem with an investigation to find out, right? Since people seem to want to investigate Trump all the time.</quote> Yes, absolutely. I have no issue with investigating Biden. Please start immediately.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GuessMyUserName 09/25/19 1:55:43 PM #41:	it's hilarious how incredibly fast Corrik rushed in to declare NOTHINGBURGER, TOTALLY VINDICATED before anyone could actually analyze what's in the transcript let alone that it's still incomplete without the accompanying whistleblower report that congress should already have but is being withheld by the acting DNI (to be released in redacted form in the coming days it's almost like he doesn't actually give a shit about seeking any truth and is just eager to reinforce his current beliefs or something --- I request affiliated many pipes. Been a bad girl, I know I am. And I'm so hot, I need a fan. I don't want a boy, I need a man. <cite>GuessMyUserName posted [p:927929099] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>it's hilarious how incredibly fast Corrik rushed in to declare NOTHINGBURGER, TOTALLY VINDICATED before anyone could actually analyze what's in the transcript let alone that it's still incomplete without the accompanying whistleblower report that congress should already have but is being withheld by the acting DNI (to be released in redacted form in the coming days it's almost like he doesn't actually give a shit about seeking any truth and is just eager to reinforce his current beliefs or something</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 09/25/19 1:55:56 PM #42:	Biden must be pretty bummed that Beau died instead of Hunter right? --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:927929113] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>Biden must be pretty bummed that Beau died instead of Hunter right? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 09/25/19 1:56:56 PM #43:	GuessMyUserName posted... it's hilarious how incredibly fast Corrik rushed in to declare NOTHINGBURGER, TOTALLY VINDICATED before anyone could actually analyze what's in the transcript let alone that it's still incomplete without the accompanying whistleblower report that congress should already have but is being withheld by the acting DNI (to be released in redacted form in the coming days it's almost like he doesn't actually give a shit about seeking any truth and is just eager to reinforce his current beliefs or something Better to call vindication right after the transcript is released than calling for punishment BEFORE though? --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:927929159] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>GuessMyUserName posted... </cite> <quote>it's hilarious how incredibly fast Corrik rushed in to declare NOTHINGBURGER, TOTALLY VINDICATED before anyone could actually analyze what's in the transcript let alone that it's still incomplete without the accompanying whistleblower report that congress should already have but is being withheld by the acting DNI (to be released in redacted form in the coming days it's almost like he doesn't actually give a shit about seeking any truth and is just eager to reinforce his current beliefs or something</quote>Better to call vindication right after the transcript is released than calling for punishment BEFORE though? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 09/25/19 2:01:13 PM #44:	Nelson_Mandela posted... I personally don't think Biden did anything wrong. I think Trump is a moronic conspiracy theorist and legitimately believes there was reason to be suspicious of this. Even though he is almost assuredly incorrect, he was elected as president and rightfully felt that it was his duty to investigate career politicians that he thinks might be corrupt. It's certainly not an impeachable offense to fulfill his campaign promises. The idea of Trump actually being deeply concerned about corruption is the most hilarious thing I've heard in a while. Good one! Nelson_Mandela posted... Better to call vindication right after the transcript is released than calling for punishment BEFORE though? What Trump's admitted to is more than enough to justify impeachment --- Congrats to Advokaiser for winning the CBX Guru Challenge! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:927929361] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote>I personally don't think Biden did anything wrong. I think Trump is a moronic conspiracy theorist and legitimately believes there was reason to be suspicious of this. Even though he is almost assuredly incorrect, he was elected as president and rightfully felt that it was his duty to investigate career politicians that he thinks might be corrupt. It's certainly not an impeachable offense to fulfill his campaign promises.</quote> The idea of Trump actually being deeply concerned about corruption is the most hilarious thing I've heard in a while. Good one! Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote>Better to call vindication right after the transcript is released than calling for punishment BEFORE though?</quote> What Trump's admitted to is more than enough to justify impeachment</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 09/25/19 2:03:00 PM #45:	Fighting corruption was absolutely a central campaign promise from Trump. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:927929442] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>Fighting corruption was absolutely a central campaign promise from Trump.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kevwaffles 09/25/19 2:04:39 PM #46:	Nelson_Mandela posted... Biden must be pretty bummed that Beau died instead of Hunter right? SephG ladies and gentlemen! --- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 <cite>kevwaffles posted [p:927929505] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote>Biden must be pretty bummed that Beau died instead of Hunter right? </quote> SephG ladies and gentlemen!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 09/25/19 2:04:45 PM #47:	https://twitter.com/bradleyrsimpson/status/1176898886289567745 --- Congrats to Advokaiser for winning the CBX Guru Challenge! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:927929511] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/bradleyrsimpson/status/1176898886289567745</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
skullbone 09/25/19 2:05:09 PM #48:	red sox 777 posted... Fighting corruption was absolutely a central campaign promise from Trump. How much corruption has he rooted out vs the people who have worked for him who are in jail now? --- skull <cite>skullbone posted [p:927929534] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>red sox 777 posted...</cite> <quote>Fighting corruption was absolutely a central campaign promise from Trump.</quote> How much corruption has he rooted out vs the people who have worked for him who are in jail now?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 09/25/19 2:08:24 PM #49:	Hillary hasn't been accused of any new corruption since Trump took office. I think it's fair to say that Trump's policies have had a strong deterrent effect. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:927929680] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>Hillary hasn't been accused of any new corruption since Trump took office. I think it's fair to say that Trump's policies have had a strong deterrent effect.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 09/25/19 2:09:56 PM #50:	LordoftheMorons posted... Reading the transcript, Trump also seems to be under the impression that Crowdstrike is Ukrainian and is also requesting that Zelensky give him the DNC email server?? That's a totally new fucked up thing that he's admitting to by releasing this transcript https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/zmjy33/donald-trump-ukraine-zelensky-crowdstrike-phone-call This is being massively overlooked and its probably the more Actually Dangerous part of the call. Trump is basically making foreign policy requests based on InfoWars-level theories --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:927929764] in Politics C... [t:78040747]...</cite> <quote>LordoftheMorons posted...</cite> <quote>Reading the transcript, Trump also seems to be under the impression that Crowdstrike is Ukrainian and is also requesting that Zelensky give him the DNC email server?? That's a totally new fucked up thing that he's admitting to by releasing this transcript</quote> https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/zmjy33/donald-trump-ukraine-zelensky-crowdstrike-phone-call This is being massively overlooked and its probably the more Actually Dangerous part of the call. Trump is basically making foreign policy requests based on InfoWars-level theories</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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