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The Great Muta 22 09/27/19 6:11:02 PM #101: |
Lorenzo_2003 posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...Why is it so shocking for some people that a person can have some views that are considered left wing and other views that are considered right wing totally legitimately and not contradicting each other. While that mentality is perfectly fine, considering who you're quoting doesn't adhere to that in the slightest it makes me laugh --- https://youtu.be/rYy0o-J0x20?t=300 "Thank you, good night. I hope you're happy" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tommybel89 09/27/19 7:23:20 PM #103: |
user-2 posted...
George Carlin did not take any political sides because he was smart enough to know that all this left wing and right wing crap is just a show for the public. He was ahead of his time for sure. Same with Bill Hicks. It's too bad podcasts weren't a thing when these guys operated. --- Go Leafs Go http://www.last.fm/user/Disposableher0 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kantony_Bantano 09/27/19 7:34:46 PM #104: |
Dave Chappelle is all the proof I need George Carlin would still be vilified, despite any clips someone wants to show me of having what we already knew was very liberal views.
He wasn't 100%. That's what made him an evil monster /s. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tommybel89 09/27/19 7:45:33 PM #105: |
Amy Schumer was good. I haven't seen her last 2 specials but I saw the 3rd last one and have also seen her live. I enjoyed most of her sketch show. She had good writers and she took care of fellow comics by putting them in her sketches. Her appearance on the Charlie Sheen Roast put her on the map and was really good. Same with Patrice O'Neal who died shortly after.
People got on her case when she starting blowing up and had a movie career. Then came the joke stealing accusations and her Hilary endorsements. That was it for some people. I thought the joke stealing was a bit far fetched. If I recall, they were "street jokes". --- Go Leafs Go http://www.last.fm/user/Disposableher0 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tommybel89 09/27/19 7:49:44 PM #106: |
Kantony_Bantano posted...
Dave Chappelle is all the proof I need George Carlin would still be vilified, despite any clips someone wants to show me of having what we already knew was very liberal views. If Chappelle was that revered and people (ahem, bloggers) turned that quick, Carlin would have had no chance. He always felt like a niche guy. Chappelle is a pop culture deity or close to it. Or maybe the other angle is that no one would have cared. He never had the pop culture peak that Chappelle had. Even though he had like 14 HBO specials. If you're not that big to begin with, there also isn't as much to take away. --- Go Leafs Go http://www.last.fm/user/Disposableher0 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AmericaTheBrave 09/27/19 7:50:36 PM #107: |
George Carlin would not have approved of Cancel Culture. The man hated political correctness and policing language.
That said, yes he was a liberal. He was an atheist, supported gay rights, immigration reform etc. long before that was fashionable. But that's not enough for today's liberals. Because Kantony_Bantano posted... He wasn't 100%. That's what made him an evil monster /s. of that. Liberals are all about purity. Stray from it even a little, you're as bad as Hitler to them. --- https://i.imgtc.ws/8tc5P9i.jpg That's America's ass ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Johnny_Nutcase 09/27/19 7:59:32 PM #108: |
Every special he did would be criticized into the ground today. I'm glad he was popular when he was. Even his old stuff stands relevant today.
--- I've learned that life is one crushing defeat after another... until you just wish Flanders was dead. - Homer Simpson ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IShall_Run_Amok 09/27/19 8:02:52 PM #109: |
Remember, the problem people have with "purity tests" is that they don't want to be criticized by people who have a different opinion than they do.
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tommybel89 09/27/19 8:04:28 PM #110: |
His earlier stuff before he got super political would have been fine. I think the turning point was the one he did during the Gulf War. He got more and more dangerous after that.
At least in my memory, that's how it went. --- Go Leafs Go http://www.last.fm/user/Disposableher0 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 09/27/19 8:05:27 PM #111: |
AmericaTheBrave posted...
George Carlin would not have approved of Cancel Culture. The man hated political correctness and policing language.And yet he still understood there were boundaries. He voluntarily cancelled his "I kinda like it when a lot of people die" skit which was a comedy routine he did about natural disasters "assisting" with overpopulation because he pretty much recorded it at the worst possible time, September 10, 2001. It was only released somewhat recently posthumously. He hated what he felt were attempts to control language around seemingly trivial concepts. Like, maybe the prime example of the kind of shit he hated was #BanBossy. He did not approve of offending people for the express purpose of being an asshole. He did not approve of racism as humor and so on. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FrisbeeDude 09/27/19 8:23:02 PM #113: |
George Carlin would not have approved of Cancel Culture. The man hated political correctness and policing language. If anything, he woulda pointed out how it's not really a thing, no one is ever really canceled and it's really just a bunch of assholes whining about how they cant be assholes anymore without people giving a shit --- If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 09/27/19 9:43:42 PM #115: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
Like, maybe the prime example of the kind of s*** he hated was #BanBossy. Trivial you say Yet this is a big no no in feminist culture. Aka, not trivial. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 09/27/19 10:12:36 PM #116: |
darkphoenix181 posted...
Trivial you say It was not big in feminist culture at all. It was a 2 week far from an annoying mom on Facebook. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Skye Reynolds 09/27/19 10:13:35 PM #117: |
I don't know who that person is, but their avatar is the squirrel that wanted to fuck Arthur in the Sword and the Stone.
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mybbqrules 09/27/19 10:54:54 PM #118: |
The Admiral posted...
Southernfatman posted...Th guy trashed religion, Ronald Regan, pro lifers, toxic masculinity, corporations, and corruption. The right would definitely hate him and call him some lefty hippie burnout. He was an equal opportunity hater of people. I can't remember the context, but I remember him saying in one of his specials "...these white, bourgeoisie liberals who think the only thing wrong in this country is there aren't enough bicycle paths." --- "Remember, it's called the 'American dream' because you have to be asleep to believe it." - George Carlin ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scar the 1 09/28/19 2:32:31 AM #119: |
AmericaTheBrave posted...
The man hated political correctness and policing language. https://twitter.com/pop_arena/status/1126166507547815937?s=19 --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Phewfus 09/28/19 3:32:31 AM #120: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
He had a stand up where he listed a ton of offensive racial slurs, said words like the nword are just words and context was important, and ended the joke calling comedians like Richard Pryor the nword. That would not fly today at all and he would be considered a racist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheoryzC 09/28/19 3:56:57 AM #121: |
I mean this would never happen today
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Questionmarktarius 09/28/19 5:19:09 AM #122: |
TheoryzC posted...
I mean this would never happen today Isn't this happening to Dave Chappelle? The only real difference is that the busybodies involved this time don't have legislative authority, yet. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheoryzC 09/28/19 5:45:56 AM #123: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
TheoryzC posted...I mean this would never happen today No. Not even a little bit. Dave will be alright --- This is where my sigs suppose to be. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tommybel89 09/28/19 9:39:18 AM #124: |
George would have probably had no problem with racist words. He was a context guy. He would have probably defended the whole recent SNL fiasco even if he was not a fan. He was over a decade ahead of time with the way he saw how the culture and media was going.
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The Great Muta 22 09/28/19 10:00:46 AM #126: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
TheoryzC posted...I mean this would never happen today Lmao except Chappelles stand up is insanely successful and raised his popularity more than ever and likely resulted in him making even more money than before and in the future, and facing no legal charges. But yes, totally the same. God damn the victim complexes on you guys is insane --- https://youtu.be/rYy0o-J0x20?t=300 "Thank you, good night. I hope you're happy" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Malfunction 09/28/19 10:03:11 AM #127: |
The Great Muta 22 posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...TheoryzC posted...I mean this would never happen today I'd like to point out that that particular user thinks that Trump wasn't racist but rather "only" xenophobic when he told a group of non white mostly American born people to go back to their "own" countries but is somehow happy to say these two thing are the exact same while acknowledging the huge differences. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tommybel89 09/28/19 10:08:17 AM #128: |
His sketch show and his $50 million dollar refusal put him over the top more than his stand up ever did. Not that his stand up isn't great. He's top 3 alive.
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The Great Muta 22 09/28/19 10:10:47 AM #129: |
tommybel89 posted...
His sketch show and his $50 million dollar refusal put him over the top more than his stand up ever did. Not that his stand up isn't great. He's top 3 alive. Regardless of the actual finances it's absolutely insane to act as if he's being persecuted or as if it's anywhere close to Carlin's arrest. Random people writing random articles for random sites aren't the end all be all in society. --- https://youtu.be/rYy0o-J0x20?t=300 "Thank you, good night. I hope you're happy" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tommybel89 09/28/19 10:15:18 AM #130: |
The Great Muta 22 posted...
tommybel89 posted...His sketch show and his $50 million dollar refusal put him over the top more than his stand up ever did. Not that his stand up isn't great. He's top 3 alive. Yeah I can see that. The hate for Chappelle is only driven by a couple reviewers / bloggers / journalists. Same with the whole SNL thing and the attack against dirty comedy on uncensored platforms. It's almost nothing. Pretty much every comedian of note is on Dave's side. That's what matters. The respect of peers means more than a blogger in Brooklyn. George is one of those guys who paved the way for the whole comedy profession. And Dave is one of the torchholders for the profession today. --- Go Leafs Go http://www.last.fm/user/Disposableher0 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tommybel89 09/28/19 10:39:52 AM #131: |
On the topic of comedy and censorship and yada yada, here's more disinformation, this time from the Hollywood Reporter:
https://rb.gy/8b2705 Likening an offensive comedy festival's inaugural year to the rise of Trump that very same year. This isn't a thing that would have picked up momentum on its own regardless of who was running for President. Riiiiiight. Likening offensive podcasts to alt-right ranting in the vein of Sam Kinison and Lenny Bruce. You can't even make that up. --- Go Leafs Go http://www.last.fm/user/Disposableher0 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Great Muta 22 09/28/19 11:06:04 AM #132: |
tommybel89 posted...
Likening offensive podcasts to alt-right ranting in the vein of Sam Kinison and Lenny Bruce. You can't even make that up. Perhaps, but on the other hand when you host Milo and Gavin on your podcast and your fans rush to the defense of Million Dollar Extreme, you then can't get all pissy and plead ignorance when you begin to have that association. "Lie with dogs and you'll wake up with fleas" and all that shit --- https://youtu.be/rYy0o-J0x20?t=300 "Thank you, good night. I hope you're happy" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tommybel89 09/28/19 11:33:50 AM #133: |
The Great Muta 22 posted...
tommybel89 posted...Likening offensive podcasts to alt-right ranting in the vein of Sam Kinison and Lenny Bruce. You can't even make that up. I have no idea who Million Dollar Extreme is or any clue what he did. But if there's a Legion of Skanks show that happens to have a controversial person on, I'm listening for the funny. I'm not there to get new ideas. The appeal of the show is that anything may happen. A Milo appearance does not discredit a hilarious appearance by Dan Soder or Michael Che or Ari Shaffir or etc. Heck, even Milo had some funny moments and I could not care less for that moron. Of course, you'll get the fringe crazies on Reddit who traffic in this world (alt right) who earnestly believe in it. The one drawback of podcasts is that the media can choose to write about the shows and the fans and they use a fringe minority to represent what the show is about. My last thought in this message: I just want an environment where anything can be said on a podcast. I don't welcome or agree with everything said. But funny can come from that dangerous place. --- Go Leafs Go http://www.last.fm/user/Disposableher0 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scar the 1 09/28/19 12:24:11 PM #134: |
tommybel89 posted...
My last thought in this message: I just want an environment where anything can be said on a podcast. I don't welcome or agree with everything said. But funny can come from that dangerous place. That's the way it is now --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tommybel89 09/28/19 12:31:23 PM #135: |
scar the 1 posted...
tommybel89 posted...My last thought in this message: I just want an environment where anything can be said on a podcast. I don't welcome or agree with everything said. But funny can come from that dangerous place. Yes. I want it to remain that way. But there are a couple bloggers in Brooklyn who think they're going to change the world, haha. --- Go Leafs Go http://www.last.fm/user/Disposableher0 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BeantownHero 09/28/19 5:00:08 PM #136: |
I forgot I made this topic lol
--- nothing is a greater tell of an awful human than using "social justice warrior" as a pejorative. without exception.- Bomani Jones ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ledbowman 09/29/19 10:56:12 AM #137: |
Love him
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