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Hicks233
10/08/19 6:49:16 AM
#151:


Schwarz posted...
Sirfetchd posted...
The American Psychiatric Association now recognises transsexuality as a physical (not mental) disorder.

Eh? How's that?

Enough people screeched about it to put pressure on them.
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AbysmalTrinity
10/08/19 6:51:08 AM
#152:


Where do you buy the medication that alters your chromosomes

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Shablagoo
10/08/19 7:13:27 AM
#153:


Conflict posted...
Sirfetchd posted...
You are no longer allowed to say what's best for your own child


If you think your child doesn't need medicine or therapy when medical professionals say they do? Absofuckinglutely you're not allowed to


Honestly Id like to see the process for this though. From my experience psychiatrists are very quick-trigger with the prescriptions. I know its recognized as a physical disorder now but how exactly are they diagnosing it on a physical level?
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tennisdude818
10/08/19 7:53:04 AM
#154:


So gender dysphoria, which leads to a high suicide rate, is now a physical disorder rather than a mental disorder.

Yeah that looks like political pressure.
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deupd_u
10/08/19 7:54:39 AM
#155:


Sirfetchd posted...
The court not only ordered that the boy had the right to continue hormone treatments, but that the father must use the correct pronouns and male name, adding that continuing to misgender and dead-name his son would amount to violence under the Family Law Act.

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gunplagirl
10/08/19 8:09:17 AM
#156:


tennisdude818 posted...
So gender dysphoria, which leads to a high suicide rate, is now a physical disorder rather than a mental disorder.

Yeah that looks like political pressure.


People with no understanding of nuance or transgender people thinking that any scientific or medical advancement that makes the lives of transgender people even slightly more tolerable is due to the political pressure that transgender people have, but also transgender people are the smallest minority group in the world. Schrodinger's something or other.
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Sirfetchd
10/08/19 9:11:18 AM
#157:


gunplagirl posted...
StealthRock posted...
I hope this doesnt pass.

Refusing to subject your child to hormone treatments ia tatanmount to withholding life saving treatment now??

We are all doomed.

And who may i ask is going to pay for all this? As if all parents have exta income for hormone pills. Are the libs gonna step up and help out?


"If my kid is physically disabled and I don't get them the resources and care they need and they end up harmed as a result of my neglect, what do you mean I'll get in trouble?"


These kids are not physically disabled though
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Dragonblade01
10/08/19 9:32:37 AM
#158:


Why does it seem more likely to some that gender dysphoria being labelled as a physical disorder is a conspiracy rather than an honest evaluation of current evidence? What is gained from the supposed conspiracy?
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OctilIery
10/08/19 9:38:12 AM
#159:


tennisdude818 posted...
So gender dysphoria, which leads to a high suicide rate, is now a physical disorder rather than a mental disorder.

Yeah that looks like political pressure.

Gender dysphoria and transgenderism are different things.
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Shablagoo
10/08/19 9:45:46 AM
#161:


Dragonblade01 posted...
Why does it seem more likely to some that trans being labelled as a physical disorder is a conspiracy rather than an honest evaluation of current evidence? What is gained from the supposed conspiracy?


Im not one of the users saying its a conspiracy but I dont get how a doctor can diagnose it on a physical level.
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Tmaster148
10/08/19 9:50:11 AM
#162:


Dragonblade01 posted...
Why does it seem more likely to some that gender dysphoria being labelled as a physical disorder is a conspiracy rather than an honest evaluation of current evidence? What is gained from the supposed conspiracy?


Honestly sounds like these people might be a bit transphobic.
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gunplagirl
10/08/19 10:11:07 AM
#163:


Dragonblade01 posted...
Why does it seem more likely to some that gender dysphoria being labelled as a physical disorder is a conspiracy rather than an honest evaluation of current evidence? What is gained from the supposed conspiracy?


It means that transphobic people are that much closer to becoming aware that their hatred is entirely based on made-up and outdated science. But then cognitive dissonance kicks in and they'd sooner believe that transgender people are secretly some super powerful and untouchable group than acknowledge that their hatred is wrong and that transgender people are an extremely vulnerable population even in the richest nation in the world.
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OctilIery
10/08/19 10:15:11 AM
#164:


Shablagoo posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
Why does it seem more likely to some that trans being labelled as a physical disorder is a conspiracy rather than an honest evaluation of current evidence? What is gained from the supposed conspiracy?


Im not one of the users saying its a conspiracy but I dont get how a doctor can diagnose it on a physical level.

A lot of confusion stems from people wrongly treating Transgenderism and Gender Dysphoria as interchangeable. Gender Dysphoria is still a mental disorder, as it refers to the anxiety and depression caused by the disparity between your actual gender and your physical body. While there is a lot of transphobia stemming from this, be hesitant in immediately labeling everyone as phobic, there is a lot of genuine misunderstanding.
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karlpilkington4
10/08/19 10:28:34 AM
#165:


gunplagirl posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
Why does it seem more likely to some that gender dysphoria being labelled as a physical disorder is a conspiracy rather than an honest evaluation of current evidence? What is gained from the supposed conspiracy?


It means that transphobic people are that much closer to becoming aware that their hatred is entirely based on made-up and outdated science. But then cognitive dissonance kicks in and they'd sooner believe that transgender people are secretly some super powerful and untouchable group than acknowledge that their hatred is wrong and that transgender people are an extremely vulnerable population even in the richest nation in the world.


To call things "outdated science", when the medical community itself is arguing the actual science and treatments, is simply dishonest.

But, your whole shtick is to use ad ad hominem, so w/e.
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gunplagirl
10/08/19 11:11:48 AM
#166:


karlpilkington4 posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
Why does it seem more likely to some that gender dysphoria being labelled as a physical disorder is a conspiracy rather than an honest evaluation of current evidence? What is gained from the supposed conspiracy?


It means that transphobic people are that much closer to becoming aware that their hatred is entirely based on made-up and outdated science. But then cognitive dissonance kicks in and they'd sooner believe that transgender people are secretly some super powerful and untouchable group than acknowledge that their hatred is wrong and that transgender people are an extremely vulnerable population even in the richest nation in the world.


To call things "outdated science", when the medical community itself is arguing the actual science and treatments, is simply dishonest.

But, your whole shtick is to use ad ad hominem, so w/e.


Ad ad hominem

Because there's always room for more ads
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karlpilkington4
10/08/19 11:14:55 AM
#167:


gunplagirl posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
Why does it seem more likely to some that gender dysphoria being labelled as a physical disorder is a conspiracy rather than an honest evaluation of current evidence? What is gained from the supposed conspiracy?


It means that transphobic people are that much closer to becoming aware that their hatred is entirely based on made-up and outdated science. But then cognitive dissonance kicks in and they'd sooner believe that transgender people are secretly some super powerful and untouchable group than acknowledge that their hatred is wrong and that transgender people are an extremely vulnerable population even in the richest nation in the world.


To call things "outdated science", when the medical community itself is arguing the actual science and treatments, is simply dishonest.

But, your whole shtick is to use ad ad hominem, so w/e.


Ad ad hominem

Because there's always room for more ads


Your attempt at humor doesn't negate the medical communities mixed stances on this whole issue.
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gunplagirl
10/08/19 11:37:31 AM
#168:


karlpilkington4 posted...
gunplagirl posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
Why does it seem more likely to some that gender dysphoria being labelled as a physical disorder is a conspiracy rather than an honest evaluation of current evidence? What is gained from the supposed conspiracy?


It means that transphobic people are that much closer to becoming aware that their hatred is entirely based on made-up and outdated science. But then cognitive dissonance kicks in and they'd sooner believe that transgender people are secretly some super powerful and untouchable group than acknowledge that their hatred is wrong and that transgender people are an extremely vulnerable population even in the richest nation in the world.


To call things "outdated science", when the medical community itself is arguing the actual science and treatments, is simply dishonest.

But, your whole shtick is to use ad ad hominem, so w/e.


Ad ad hominem

Because there's always room for more ads


Your attempt at humor doesn't negate the medical communities mixed stances on this whole issue.


*Wincing expression as I look at your shitposting earlier in the topic*

Yes, definitely up in the air when you cite the daily mail.
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mD_atheist
10/08/19 11:38:50 AM
#169:


Can we do with with anti vaxxers too?
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karlpilkington4
10/08/19 11:50:39 AM
#170:


gunplagirl posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...
gunplagirl posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
Why does it seem more likely to some that gender dysphoria being labelled as a physical disorder is a conspiracy rather than an honest evaluation of current evidence? What is gained from the supposed conspiracy?


It means that transphobic people are that much closer to becoming aware that their hatred is entirely based on made-up and outdated science. But then cognitive dissonance kicks in and they'd sooner believe that transgender people are secretly some super powerful and untouchable group than acknowledge that their hatred is wrong and that transgender people are an extremely vulnerable population even in the richest nation in the world.


To call things "outdated science", when the medical community itself is arguing the actual science and treatments, is simply dishonest.

But, your whole shtick is to use ad ad hominem, so w/e.


Ad ad hominem

Because there's always room for more ads


Your attempt at humor doesn't negate the medical communities mixed stances on this whole issue.


*Wincing expression as I look at your shitposting earlier in the topic*

Yes, definitely up in the air when you cite the daily mail.


Quote 1 post where I shitposted about this topic.

We'll wait.
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DoubleDare
10/08/19 11:54:49 AM
#171:


Can you still put the kid up for adoption?

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ImmatureContent
10/08/19 12:03:37 PM
#172:


The distinction between mental and physical is outdated. The brain is a physical organ that operates on a physical level. It is an incredibly complex organ and we don't fully understand how it functions but it absolutely operates on a physical level. All those thoughts in your mind are a result of neurons firing and chemical secretions. The brain is undoubtedly the most important part of the body. It is sad how people attempt to weaponize their ignorance into stigmatizing anything related to the mind.
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WashYourHands
10/08/19 12:04:15 PM
#173:


CaNaDa

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StealthRock
10/08/19 12:10:05 PM
#174:


Dragonblade01 posted...
Why does it seem more likely to some that gender dysphoria being labelled as a physical disorder is a conspiracy rather than an honest evaluation of current evidence? What is gained from the supposed conspiracy?


Pharmacy companies gaining a new and expanded market now that you are legally required to buy drugs for you kids which they will have to take for the rest of their lives

The Big names you dont hear about that are pushing this are all trans billionaires with connections to big names in pharmarcy
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martine_Rothblatt
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tennisdude818
10/08/19 12:16:40 PM
#175:


ImmatureContent posted...
The distinction between mental and physical is outdated. The brain is a physical organ that operates on a physical level. It is an incredibly complex organ and we don't fully understand how it functions but it absolutely operates on a physical level. All those thoughts in your mind are a result of neurons firing and chemical secretions. The brain is undoubtedly the most important part of the body. It is sad how people attempt to weaponize their ignorance into stigmatizing anything related to the mind.


Im very open to the argument that male and female brains are different, and trans people are dealing with an unfortunate mismatch. The problem is if the brains are different, then the leftist HR department at Google owes James Damore an apology. Lets pick a lane and stick with it.
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El_Dustino
10/08/19 6:02:37 PM
#176:


tennisdude818 posted...
ImmatureContent posted...
The distinction between mental and physical is outdated. The brain is a physical organ that operates on a physical level. It is an incredibly complex organ and we don't fully understand how it functions but it absolutely operates on a physical level. All those thoughts in your mind are a result of neurons firing and chemical secretions. The brain is undoubtedly the most important part of the body. It is sad how people attempt to weaponize their ignorance into stigmatizing anything related to the mind.


Im very open to the argument that male and female brains are different, and trans people are dealing with an unfortunate mismatch. The problem is if the brains are different, then the leftist HR department at Google owes James Damore an apology. Lets pick a lane and stick with it.

They might owe him an apology if that was all he said, but it was not. Also a strange sidebar for this topic.

It IS an interesting discussion topic though because older feminists and such have been saying there is no difference, but more recent science says there is a difference. it causes a lot of infighting (though a lot of those old feminisrs are TERFs anyway).
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A_A_Battery
10/08/19 6:14:55 PM
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Good luck widdat
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