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Clutch 10/08/19 8:44:36 AM #101: |
Shablagoo posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...What a silly topic. You make ALOT of money (real wealth) by investing and leveraging your money, not by selling your time for money, like most people (poor people) You mean the people who agree to do that work in exchange for fair compensation? --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shablagoo 10/08/19 8:46:25 AM #102: |
Clutch posted...
Shablagoo posted...karlpilkington4 posted...What a silly topic. You make ALOT of money (real wealth) by investing and leveraging your money, not by selling your time for money, like most people (poor people) Its not fair compensation if youre putting me to work and making more money off my labor than I am. --- "Call me when you get a back-to-back-to-back-to-back. Why would I wanna be a rapper, rappers wanna be Shaq." -Shaquille O'Neal ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 10/08/19 8:46:32 AM #103: |
Clutch posted...
Shablagoo posted...karlpilkington4 posted...What a silly topic. You make ALOT of money (real wealth) by investing and leveraging your money, not by selling your time for money, like most people (poor people) "It's not my fault people are willing to work for shit wage" just underlines the sociopathy behind billionaire worshipers. --- CyricZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pls 10/08/19 8:48:04 AM #104: |
Shablagoo posted...
Clutch posted...Shablagoo posted...karlpilkington4 posted...What a silly topic. You make ALOT of money (real wealth) by investing and leveraging your money, not by selling your time for money, like most people (poor people) They make money off you because they provide the tools, the workspace, and the legwork that made it possible to work there in the first place. And they take on the risks of financing everything, whereas you are only concerned with your work. You make it sound like they're making off like bandits for nothing. If it's so fucking easy, why don't you do it? --- Do good. Eat communists. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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karlpilkington4 10/08/19 8:49:16 AM #105: |
Shablagoo posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...What a silly topic. You make ALOT of money (real wealth) by investing and leveraging your money, not by selling your time for money, like most people (poor people) Mark Cuban made a billion dollars by creating a software, and then selling it. Elon Musk did something similar with Paypal, and creating more companies. Some people buy and sell real estate at scale. Franchise owners, etc. It all makes perfect sense if you actually study money, instead of being closed off and offended by people who not only work hard, but smart. --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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emblem boy 10/08/19 8:50:14 AM #106: |
*Don't really care to read most of the topic.
I don't have an issue with people having a lot of money, I go say though, it's insane how easy it seems to grow meaningful money when you already have a lot of it. Need money to make money --- Pitter-patter, let's get at 'er ... Copied to Clipboard!
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karlpilkington4 10/08/19 8:50:31 AM #107: |
Shablagoo posted...
Clutch posted...Shablagoo posted...karlpilkington4 posted...What a silly topic. You make ALOT of money (real wealth) by investing and leveraging your money, not by selling your time for money, like most people (poor people) They agreed to work for that money. So...... --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pls 10/08/19 8:51:11 AM #108: |
karlpilkington4 posted...
Shablagoo posted...Clutch posted...Shablagoo posted...karlpilkington4 posted...What a silly topic. You make ALOT of money (real wealth) by investing and leveraging your money, not by selling your time for money, like most people (poor people) To be fair there are people who are trapped between a rock and a hard place and take what they can get. No reason why we can't make conditions better for those people. --- Do good. Eat communists. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DevsBro 10/08/19 8:52:47 AM #109: |
You're right. For example, I bet you didn't know that the Empire State Building was sold in 2013 for just shy of two billion dollars.
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karlpilkington4 10/08/19 8:54:02 AM #110: |
CyricZ posted...
Clutch posted...Shablagoo posted...karlpilkington4 posted...What a silly topic. You make ALOT of money (real wealth) by investing and leveraging your money, not by selling your time for money, like most people (poor people) Oh look, Cyric using logical fallacies and faulty logic at that. People are free to work wherever they want. They are free to create their own business if they want. They are free to study and have skills that actually make their labor worthwhile to business owners, resulting in very high compensation. They are also free to be lazy, not learn skills and just work at McDonalds or the equivalent. But then they have no real right to complain about their situation (like the majority do anyway) --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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karlpilkington4 10/08/19 8:54:53 AM #111: |
pls posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...Shablagoo posted...Clutch posted...Shablagoo posted...karlpilkington4 posted...What a silly topic. You make ALOT of money (real wealth) by investing and leveraging your money, not by selling your time for money, like most people (poor people) Sure, I support UBI. --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Clutch 10/08/19 8:58:02 AM #112: |
I have a great idea! Lets prohibit anyone from making a profit from creating a job! Nothing bad can come from that!
Get out of your parents basement, people. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DevsBro 10/08/19 9:04:02 AM #113: |
Clutch posted...
I have a great idea! Lets prohibit anyone from making a profit from creating a job! Nothing bad can come from that! I mean, if you have billions and you're still doing business, you clearly just enjoy it. --- 53 LIII 0b110101 p16 0x35 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shablagoo 10/08/19 9:04:33 AM #114: |
karlpilkington4 posted...
pls posted...karlpilkington4 posted...Shablagoo posted...Clutch posted...Shablagoo posted...karlpilkington4 posted...What a silly topic. You make ALOT of money (real wealth) by investing and leveraging your money, not by selling your time for money, like most people (poor people) Ok cool. Im fine with capitalism as long as there are appropriate socialistic policies in place to keep the lower classes from living lives of misery. --- "Call me when you get a back-to-back-to-back-to-back. Why would I wanna be a rapper, rappers wanna be Shaq." -Shaquille O'Neal ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lightwarrior78 10/08/19 9:10:33 AM #115: |
pinky0926 posted...
The question is then, how do you sto pit? These guys get wealthier because their money is in things that grow in value while most of us spend on consumption or things that lose it very quickly. Bezos and others grow faster by improving their company while the average citizen complains if they have to do any self improvement. Some take what they've been given and have their fun now, others later, and guess who holds more in the long run. And as you get equity isn't cash, you expose the problem: no one wants wealth to hold and gain value. They want cash to buy shit which is why none of the redistribution ideas work. If it was as simple as just signing over assets, I think something could be arranged, but that won't feed the hungry. They'll get to starve owning 1/100000th of some Amazon warehouse, or kill the value as it becomes an overflooded market of people trying to sell it to people with little incentive to buy it. It isn't a fair situation, but that fact doesn't make it a resource you can tap for the complete value of that wealth. Moreover it's probably firer than you want to admit. Saving was once seen as not just a virtue, but an American duty that has now been replaced with people with no wealth, but 2 tablets, a big screen TV, and several subscription services. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 10/08/19 10:43:48 AM #117: |
Clutch posted...
averagejoel posted...the resources used to create wealth are not infinite, which means wealth cannot be infinite. wealth has to come from somewhere. money's primary purpose is still granting or limiting access to resources like land, food, and shelter. in the context of generating wealth, human labour is also a resource. and extracting "more value" out of natural resources (whatever that means) does not magically make the resources themselves infinite --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shablagoo 10/08/19 10:48:26 AM #118: |
averagejoel posted...
Clutch posted...averagejoel posted...the resources used to create wealth are not infinite, which means wealth cannot be infinite. wealth has to come from somewhere. I think he means like how Unkar Plutt gives Rey less food rations today for the same amount of labor she did yesterday. More value. --- "Call me when you get a back-to-back-to-back-to-back. Why would I wanna be a rapper, rappers wanna be Shaq." -Shaquille O'Neal ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AwesomeToTheMAX 10/08/19 10:55:13 AM #119: |
When you censor names you have to use the largest brush size
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KobeSystem 10/08/19 1:00:05 PM #120: |
We need to improve quality of life for poor and middle class people who get taxed to hell and back. Hell iirc even your average millionaire gets dunked by taxes. We should focus on pulling those people up.
Imo best way to do that is to end the grip big businesses have on our government with unironic legal bribing. This government doesnt represent us and hasnt in who knows how long. Governents just write laws the fuck over the rest of us just to benefit their sugar daddies --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AnimeFan462 10/08/19 6:44:14 PM #121: |
Kolibri X posted...
pinky0926 posted... This --- Now Playing: Borderlands 3, Zelda Link's Awakening Remake, Atelier Lydie & Suelle, Atelier Lulua, and Mario Maker 2 Now Watching: Kimetsu No Yaiba ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wetterdew 10/08/19 6:50:29 PM #122: |
Wtf, apparently he gets over 215 million dollars per day.
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pls 10/08/19 6:52:23 PM #123: |
KobeSystem posted...
We need to improve quality of life for poor and middle class people who get taxed to hell and back. Hell iirc even your average millionaire gets dunked by taxes. We should focus on pulling those people up. I'd love lower taxes for us regular folk --- Do good. Eat communists. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Eko 10/09/19 3:56:39 AM #124: |
What if there was a money limit, like in video games? Max amount being $999,999
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