Current Events > Remember when Greta Thunberg gave Trump that really nasty look?

(+) Yeah! (+)

The fact that corporations and politicians have largely ignored scientists and these "better advocates" for decades is the EXACT REASON why Greta has to shame them in the first place

pretty sure tommyg is a trumper.

people attacking a 16 kid with autism for dating to speak out about the biggest issue facing the world are acting despicably
---

andel posted...

pretty sure tommyg is a trumper.

people attacking a 16 kid with autism for dating to speak out about the biggest issue facing the world are acting despicably

Imagine taking a rich, snot nosed kid with no solutions and is obviously a fake liberal seriously. It's making proponents of climate change look dumber than crash dummies. All the UN had to do is give a scientist the platform, they had this one job and they failed miserably, it's basically failing an open book test.
---

Hop103 posted...

andel posted...

pretty sure tommyg is a trumper.

people attacking a 16 kid with autism for dating to speak out about the biggest issue facing the world are acting despicably

Imagine taking a rich, snot nosed kid with no solutions and is obviously a fake liberal seriously. It's making proponents of climate change look dumber than crash dummies. All the UN had to do is give a scientist the platform, they had this one job and they failed miserably, it's basically failing an open book test.

nah, they are doing great with greta because she has gotten tons of people talking about climate change around the world. your ilk will get mad and refuse to acknowledge accepted facts no matter what
---

Hop103 posted...

All the UN had to do is give a scientist the platform

And you would promptly ignore them, like the right has been doing for decades.

At least Greta clearly grinds your gears.

---

andel posted...

pretty sure tommyg is a trumper.

people attacking a 16 kid with autism for dating to speak out about the biggest issue facing the world are acting despicably

Lol

I am and always will be a never Trumper.

Currently pulling for Warren and I've been extremely happy that Harris has fallen out of favor though I honestly would still have voted for her if she won the nomination. I'm lukewarm on Biden, but I'd still vote for him.
---

I have to chuckle at people who say scientists should've done the talking and a 16 year old girl isn't the right spokesperson.

Scientists have published articles and spoken in front of the UN before. Nobody cares or pays attention. A 16 year old girl did it, and people are talking about it.

Whether she is an expert or not, she's bringing awareness to the general public about it. The people who are making a big deal about it seem to put more emphasis on the messenger than the message.

---

---

Remember that climate change deniers only attack Greta Thunberg to deflect from the very real dangers of climate change. They don't want anyone to come up with solutions, they don't want to listen to scientists. They especially don't want to stop talking about her. They need, and hate, her because the way she looks and acts and speaks is literally the only argument they have against climate change.

And they need, need, need to present this as valid.
---

konokonohamaru posted...

EIiza posted...

Can someone please verify if that pic was shopped or not?

this f***ing world we live in... can't trust anything anymore

Soon we'll have to ask this for videos too once deepfakes become more prevalent and accurate.
---

TheDreadedWave posted...

Hop103 posted...

All the UN had to do is give a scientist the platform

And you would promptly ignore them, like the right has been doing for decades.

At least Greta clearly grinds your gears.

I don't ignore the scientists.
---

Hop103 posted...

Alpha218 posted...

Hop103 posted...

She look like a spoiled pig princess, that's the face of excess, privilege, and fake liberalism.

You guys sure are upset that a 16 year old is advocating for us to treat the planet better

She offered no solutions, she's as useless as the UN itself, they couldn't even put a scientist on the podium (they missed out on an opportunity to give one of scientists that bailed from Trump's EPA a platform discuss solutions on addressing climate change). I don't listen to rich, fake liberals (especially snot nosed kids), but I'll at least give an actual scientist a listen.

But you listen to dimwitted, uninformed rich republicans? LOL
---

shockthemonkey posted...

Hop103 posted...

TheDreadedWave posted...

Hop103 posted...

All the UN had to do is give a scientist the platform

And you would promptly ignore them, like the right has been doing for decades.

At least Greta clearly grinds your gears.

I don't ignore the scientists.

But you do ignore that the UN has had plenty of scientists speak about climate change?

Yet a snot nosed kid got the platform instead of them. The UN doesn't give enough of a shit about scientists because if they did, this controversy would have not existed.
---

TommyG663513 posted...

Your post was just straw manning. You need better reading comprehension skills and better debate skills. Your first comment was especially awful and you should feel bad about it. Keep fighting that straw man.

I am pro help the environment. I just don't think Thunberg will prove to have been helpful. She is mostly troll bait to shame the other side and it is embarrassing to see people use these tactics. Please try to learn to understand nuance.

It absolutely does matter who we hear the message from. It'd be much better to hear it from someone with decades of research in the field with the charisma and ability to say it in a way people can understand.

Thunberg is an over privileged very young girl with social awareness/developmental issues that gave a dramatic speech that mostly consisted of her attempting to shame people.

"How dare you. I shouldn't be here." These are dumb statements. It is just about creating memes.

I'm truly frustrated that OTHER (because I am one, I'm even LGBT too) liberal people think she has done something great or even good. It will most likely just go down as an attempt that will be forgotten.

@Alpha218
---

Hop going to find himself warned here shortly as well. Nice to see he's totally dropped the "I'm an establishment centrist who constantly shit talks anything left of the GOP talking points guys" mask
---

Hairistotle posted...

This is all TommyG does, by the way. Carries on with anti-left sentiment thru-out topics while constantly reminding us how liberal he is.

Anti left? Lol

I'm anti far left

I 100% believe that climate change/global warming/whatever is an extremely important issue and that we need to start making wide scale changes to help combat this. Personal responsibility for environmentalism is great, but it can only do so much. Corporations play a significantly larger role in all of this. Beyond that, even just focusing on the USA is flawed. Russia and China are major contributors to this too and quite frankly I don't know how to solve that. They do what they do and I'm not sure how we can influence them.

I'm bisexual and have spent a lot of time among various gay communities. I learned through those experiences that there are plenty (I can't nail it down to an exact percentage) enough within the gay community that have issues towards bisexual people that it is more advantageous for me to never say I'm bisexual and let them assume I'm gay. These negative feelings range from outright hate to a general dismissiveness of my orientation (ex. I remember my bisexual phase before realizing I was gay). I'm pretty aware of the idiocy on the far left.

I also went to a very large liberal university and pursued a very left leaning major and was thus frequently surrounded by many far left types. I've spent a lot of time around these people. I've heard the word problematic spoken out loud way too many times to count. The far left can be pretty stupid.

The far right is clearly worse, but that doesn't let the far left off the hook. I could spend plenty of time blasting the far right, but it just seems so obvious. These people support Trump lol.

But I likely just gave a troll more attention then they deserve. Reasonable to deduce that this was someone's alt as well.
---

It's a shame Greta is only 16.

She's too young to truly appreciate not having to pay rent.
---

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZqkc3WcYLw" data-time="
---

Remember when Putin tore her comments a new asshole and was spot-on with everything he said? That was great too. The worst part was she was calling for a "Green New Deal" which is the same thing that got Ocasio-Cortez laughed out of the building, even by folks in her own party. Great plan, Greta.

In the end, she's yet another product of overzealous parents. His parents already have a book out all about their great job in raising their daughter and how they instilled all these great environmentalist values in her. All this activism and it's all to cash in. As always, follow the money.

I doubt we'll hear from her in a year anyway...even if this isn't just some phase that her parents forced her to go through with, folks will lose interest anyway. We heard the same "young activist" hype with those Stonewall Douglas students and no one's heard from them in half a year as well.

And then a year from now yet another young kid will get tons of attention by saying the same thing that everyone's already thinking and the cycle continues. Parents will never fail to push children into the spotlight of political issues for attention. A time-honored tradition.

The fact that corporations and politicians have largely ignored scientists and these "better advocates" for decades is the EXACT REASON why Greta has to shame them in the first place

If you think that a kid pointing fingers and insulting adults is a way to get them to your side then you don't anything about how people work. Kids always do the "angry finger pointing" act because they never know any other way to approach it and it'll never, ever work.

Also people ignore this shit not because they don't believe it...it's because they know there's nothing that can be done to stop it. The damage is done, it's still being done and you'll never get the entire planet on the same page on this thing.

Hotel_Security posted...

Remember when Putin

No I don't remember ever giving a turd what Putin said

---

No I don't remember ever giving a turd what Putin said

Yet you care about what a 15 year old says? Makes sense.

In either case, he was quite correct on the issue and called out every dubious aspect of it. If you haven't figured it out by now, he's pretty smart.

The whole thing was pointless theatrics that probably set things back more than anything else. Children/teens making political statements should be avoided at all costs, especially an overly scripted fearmongering statement. I have no doubt climate change is real, but I don't think we're mere moments from death. We're definitely chugging along to the point of no return though.

If a 16 year old girl making a speech set things back what are people supposed to do to make a change.

Protest?
---

Put on people who instill confidence in what they're saying. Don't go doomsday unless we have true facts to say doomsday is right around the corner. Don't use children in politics. You're never going to change a staunch denialist with any kind of speech, but you can help them double down on their personal beliefs with a horrible speech.

Children/teens making political statements should be avoided at all costs, especially an overly scripted fearmongering statement.

Was clear she was just regurgitating what her parents wanted her to say. Kind of disgusting to see. The only people who liked it were those who already believe it...I don't think a single mind was changed from the opposition.

Yeah lets see what Putin has to say about climate change instead of listening to scientists

He doesn't care but he also doesn't sell an illusion that it all can be solved with some piece of legislation or with the idea that if we can just work together. Dude's a realist.

Don't go doomsday unless we have true facts to say doomsday is right around the corner.

This shit started with Al Gore and hasn't stopped. Dude acted like an alarmist and the rest of the community just rolled their eyes at it and it made it even easier for people to not take it seriously. Doesn't help that he was partnering with these carbon credit charities so it was all for profit too.

https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/climate-scientists-say-greta-thunberg-s-efforts-are-building-real-ncna1059321

Environmental activist Greta Thunbergs searing address at the United Nations earlier this week earned enthusiastic praise from climate researchers, with many saying that the 16-year-old has found ways to raise awareness of climate science, galvanize support and resonate with people in ways that they have struggled to for decades.

Speaking as a climate change scientist who has been working on this issue for 20 years and saying the same thing for 20 years, she is getting people to listen, which we have failed to do, said Saleemul Huq, director of the International Centre for Climate Change & Development in Bangladesh.

I thought it was the most powerful speech Ive ever seen.

Sally Benson, co-director of the Precourt Institute for Energy at Stanford University, applauded Thunbergs emotional remarks and her efforts to mobilize young people to demand action on climate change.

She has been a catalytic leader, Benson said. Were seeing more grassroots action, and shes creating a movement where young people are pushing communities, cities, states and corporations and saying, were not going to wait.

There you go. That's what climate scientists are saying.
---

* reads first post*

Think that almost couldve happened but never did. And even if it did I doubt either cared.

The old people who get angry about having to bring their own plastic bags to go grocery shopping will never change their mind about something significantly more extreme.

They're a lost cause and honestly it's at the point where progress will be made when that generation gradually dies off. They're just that entrenched in their ways.

These are the people getting angry at a young girl making a speech about stuff they don't want to hear. The good thing is their reaction just adds to what Greta was saying. Are those the people who should lead the way for our future? The kind of people who insist on plugging up their ears no matter who is telling them the message?
---

Darmik posted...

The old people who get angry about having to bring their own plastic bags to go grocery shopping will never change their mind about something significantly more extreme.

They're a lost cause and honestly it's at the point where progress will be made when that generation gradually dies off. They're just that entrenched in their ways.

These are the people getting angry at a young girl making a speech about stuff they don't want to hear. The good thing is their reaction just adds to what Greta was saying. Are those the people who should lead the way for our future? The kind of people who insist on plugging up their ears no matter who is telling them the message?

No one in their right mind would go for a plan that involves uprooting society like what would need to be done. It is impossible.
---

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0048977/mediaviewer/rm2708183040

---

internet cowards attacking children.......

Duncanwii posted...

No one in their right mind would go for a plan that involves uprooting society like what would need to be done. It is impossible.

The longer nothing is done the more likely the future society won't have any other choice.
---

Darmik posted...

https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/climate-scientists-say-greta-thunberg-s-efforts-are-building-real-ncna1059321

Environmental activist Greta Thunbergs searing address at the United Nations earlier this week earned enthusiastic praise from climate researchers, with many saying that the 16-year-old has found ways to raise awareness of climate science, galvanize support and resonate with people in ways that they have struggled to for decades.

Speaking as a climate change scientist who has been working on this issue for 20 years and saying the same thing for 20 years, she is getting people to listen, which we have failed to do, said Saleemul Huq, director of the International Centre for Climate Change & Development in Bangladesh.

I thought it was the most powerful speech Ive ever seen.

Sally Benson, co-director of the Precourt Institute for Energy at Stanford University, applauded Thunbergs emotional remarks and her efforts to mobilize young people to demand action on climate change.

She has been a catalytic leader, Benson said. Were seeing more grassroots action, and shes creating a movement where young people are pushing communities, cities, states and corporations and saying, were not going to wait.

There you go. That's what climate scientists are saying.

Is this a scientific analysis of climate change scientists consensus on Thunberg? Do we have data to show that she has actually effected real change?
---

TommyG663513 posted...

Darmik posted...

https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/climate-scientists-say-greta-thunberg-s-efforts-are-building-real-ncna1059321

Environmental activist Greta Thunbergs searing address at the United Nations earlier this week earned enthusiastic praise from climate researchers, with many saying that the 16-year-old has found ways to raise awareness of climate science, galvanize support and resonate with people in ways that they have struggled to for decades.

Speaking as a climate change scientist who has been working on this issue for 20 years and saying the same thing for 20 years, she is getting people to listen, which we have failed to do, said Saleemul Huq, director of the International Centre for Climate Change & Development in Bangladesh.

I thought it was the most powerful speech Ive ever seen.

Sally Benson, co-director of the Precourt Institute for Energy at Stanford University, applauded Thunbergs emotional remarks and her efforts to mobilize young people to demand action on climate change.

She has been a catalytic leader, Benson said. Were seeing more grassroots action, and shes creating a movement where young people are pushing communities, cities, states and corporations and saying, were not going to wait.

There you go. That's what climate scientists are saying.

Is this a scientific analysis of climate change scientists consensus on Thunberg? Do we have data to show that she has actually effected real change?

lmao

goalposts ------> that way
---

Probably wouldn't be hard to check how many climate protests have happened this year compared to the past. It seemed to me that they gained momentum lately.
---

thronedfire2 posted...

TommyG663513 posted...

Darmik posted...

https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/climate-scientists-say-greta-thunberg-s-efforts-are-building-real-ncna1059321

Environmental activist Greta Thunbergs searing address at the United Nations earlier this week earned enthusiastic praise from climate researchers, with many saying that the 16-year-old has found ways to raise awareness of climate science, galvanize support and resonate with people in ways that they have struggled to for decades.

Speaking as a climate change scientist who has been working on this issue for 20 years and saying the same thing for 20 years, she is getting people to listen, which we have failed to do, said Saleemul Huq, director of the International Centre for Climate Change & Development in Bangladesh.

I thought it was the most powerful speech Ive ever seen.

Sally Benson, co-director of the Precourt Institute for Energy at Stanford University, applauded Thunbergs emotional remarks and her efforts to mobilize young people to demand action on climate change.

She has been a catalytic leader, Benson said. Were seeing more grassroots action, and shes creating a movement where young people are pushing communities, cities, states and corporations and saying, were not going to wait.

There you go. That's what climate scientists are saying.

Is this a scientific analysis of climate change scientists consensus on Thunberg? Do we have data to show that she has actually effected real change?

lmao

goalposts ------> that way

Literally one article from NBC news with a few climate scientists quoted. Don't act like that equates to something definitive.
---

IShall_Run_Amok posted...

Remember that climate change deniers only attack Greta Thunberg to deflect from the very real dangers of climate change. They don't want anyone to come up with solutions, they don't want to listen to scientists. They especially don't want to stop talking about her. They need, and hate, her because the way she looks and acts and speaks is literally the only argument they have against climate change.

And they need, need, need to present this as valid.

---

Looking it up yeah immediately after Greta's speech was the largest climate change protest so far.
---

Conflict posted...

I don't remember Tommy being this insanely weird of a poster. Wonder what happened

Nah he was p cool back in the day, usually a voice of reason.

Now he's like, some centrist contrarian

---